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June 11, 2023, 07:15:51 PM
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...Some partners in marriage become more valuable with time...
No doubt, please ensure your off spring would be lucky enough to marry rich, because rich does get richer, they're also much richer over time, it is not unusual since medieval age where emporers are wealthy and have a castle full of concubines.

...the OP she is simply ranting about her husband...
Lulz. that is quick to come to conclusion, well, ranting about something? obviously I would rant a lot of thing, I would need a lot of audiences to listen to my rant too. Smiley

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...the wife suddenly realizes that her faith in the guy's abilities was misplaced...
Ahhhhh! When thing has came to irreparable, you see everybody would bend over every logical thinking, guy would lied about how he was cheated, then girl would lied about how she was cheated, everybody doing it for their own selfish sake, does it sound very familiar? Just like the politician, just like the bank, just like elon musk, just like michael saylor shilling about bitcoin, ohhhh, it must be damn difficult to catch people lying when your IQ level is higher than Newton Isaac, btw poor guy got screwed and killed for someone else debacle, but bad actor got to live much longer in life, all fair and square, don't you like how life is so unfair? Smiley

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June 11, 2023, 08:07:58 PM
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...If they have zero similarity...
Absolutely zero connection! it is totally unrelatable. It would take a madman guess to even correlate the both of them and come up with something logical and could debate about.

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...why would it need to have anything to do with money or "bailing out"? And what do you mean eit's verybody else's problem?...
Yes... money, marry rich, the hint is here, please marry rich, marriage and rich, this has to be the norms, trying to change the norms and not marry rich, you are asking for disaster!

...life after marriage is not someone else's problem...
Yup, it is legally bonding, it must not be enacted again.

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...all aspects of life such as economic problems, attitudes toward each other, and other problems, of course the couple must be able to solve them...
Alright, wake up, take the courage and face the challenge like a real man, you gotta tackle everything thrown at you just as expected, do not give up. btw, make sure to work hard unconditionally and make the rich getting even richer at your own expense.

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... has nothing to do with all nations or a country, even though a marriage is definitely registered in all governments of every country...
frankly, marriage is a global status, when you travel to the other continent, you would not just magically loss the status of marriage. It is a permanent mark, it goes everywhere you move. You are married in US, you would be married too in Japan, you would be married too in USSR. Do not reject such generousity. Smiley


...reforming marriage is everyone's responsibility...
It is unthinkable, reforming something that has been established, I wouldn't dare goes as far as saying about restructuring marriage(business), merging marriage(business), reserve fractioning marriage(business), privatize marriage(business)... well, that is insanity. Smiley

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...advantages and disadvantages in marriage as well as...
that would take a lot of mental gymnastics to pull it off, obviously I know guy would eventually pull it off alone.

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June 11, 2023, 08:57:30 PM
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...reforming marriage is everyone's responsibility...
It is unthinkable, reforming something that has been established, I wouldn't dare goes as far as saying about restructuring marriage(business), merging marriage(business), reserve fractioning marriage(business), privatize marriage(business)... well, that is insanity. Smiley

Since you look at marriage as a kind of business, you can say that it is a contract with specific conditions between husband and wife, each party has to abide by the terms in the marriage contract (or business contract if you like).

A marriage contract is like any contract in which there are conditions that both parties must abide by. If the parties do not abide by the conditions, then they must either terminate the contract or restructure it again.

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June 11, 2023, 09:55:58 PM
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Every relationship faces challenges that must be overcome with time, effort, and honest communication. The fact that every person is different and has a distinctive history must always be kept in mind. Any relationship, whether or not it involves marriage, should place a high priority on communication, respect, and support. Some people may choose not to get married, while others may view marriage as a significant aspect of their lives. Last but not least, the people involved, their expectations, and the dynamics of their relationship will all influence whether marriage is a problem or not. Therefore, marriage is not everybody's problem.
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June 11, 2023, 10:31:16 PM
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just like business, when the business goes bad, it is everybody else problem, everybody, every taxpayer gotta bailout the bad business that goes broke, everyone would pay the taxes.

we all hope the husband would fix and help the marriage on his own. that is a wiseful thinking. i saw many married men have this very funny opinion, they always talk about their life suck, and foreveralone guy is better. It is clear to me now, he can't tix his marriage problem alone, when he got married, it is everybody else problems, it is the entire nations problems, it is internationally problem, everybody else gotta bailout the marriage!

Marriage is a business too. A marriage is a company with 2 partners. The male partner is often at a disadvantage financially because of the marriage law. It is a bad business practice. A male should be a lone wolf and rent sex when he is in need. I am usually against the subscription services but his is one of those moments where paying for a subscription makes more sense than buying the product. It is because in this example, the product loses its value over time. Just like FIAT. FIAT and sex partners lose their value over time unlike gold and bitcoin, which become more valuable as time goes on. Why would you want to invest in something that is going to have less worth tomorrow? It is against common sense. You should always rent these types of assets.

Lol, the truth made me laugh, male should always get what they want at anytime they need it, not getting it all the time. Subscribing for such an asset pushes the man to have sex more than he should and it also sets some men backward. A famous saying; if you want to be happy for a month get married, and if you want to be happy forever, become a priest. I don't know how marriage looks like, not married. But, I see it as boring, nothing special seeing same person everyday for years. The value diminishes, as the together ?ring wears off. 
We shouldn't get married because of lust or because we fill pity for our partner or because he/she is wealthy or because she is beautiful or sexy,instead let us get married because of mutual love. With this understanding, you wouldn't fall being a victim to see your partner fade away. True love don't fade away instead it is constant. Marriage should be seen as two imperfect people who are joined  together due to the love that they have for each other,so that they can help each other convert their weaknesses to their strength and to be faithful to each other. Sex is part of marriage,but if you marry because of sex,then if s/he can no long satisfy your sexual desires,you will want a divorce. My question is have you ever been tired of seeing your mom or siblings everyday way back when you were all together

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June 11, 2023, 10:42:57 PM
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...that's the problem of the businessman and not everyone...The employees doesn't have to...
Well, tbh, nobody want to be in this chaos honestly, I want to live a trouble free life too, this never ending chaos is going to drain so much energy, at least as much effort as a fulltime job, for what? for a clean house and a cooked meal? Bailout the business just for the sake of clean house and cooked meals? Couldn't I just hire third world slave to do the job? And save me all the hassle?
Well, there is the saying that if you can't take the heat in the kitchen, get out of it.

And that's what you have to do when you can't all of these whether it is the business or being a married guy. There's divorce if you can't take it anymore and it can't be resolved with talks.

For someone who just want to live free and doesn't want to deal with these normal problems, you know what to do. Don't get involved into marriage or even a business.

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June 11, 2023, 11:40:07 PM
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...that's the problem of the businessman and not everyone...The employees doesn't have to...
Well, tbh, nobody want to be in this chaos honestly, I want to live a trouble free life too, this never ending chaos is going to drain so much energy, at least as much effort as a fulltime job, for what? for a clean house and a cooked meal? Bailout the business just for the sake of clean house and cooked meals? Couldn't I just hire third world slave to do the job? And save me all the hassle?
Well, there is the saying that if you can't take the heat in the kitchen, get out of it.

And that's what you have to do when you can't all of these whether it is the business or being a married guy. There's divorce if you can't take it anymore and it can't be resolved with talks.

For someone who just want to live free and doesn't want to deal with these normal problems, you know what to do. Don't get involved into marriage or even a business.

I think that is a different comparison, I can't get tired of seeing and wasn't always with them everyday. Marriage is fine, but different people have unique responses about it and how it may affect their daily life. Looking at the society today, lots of people behave in a strange way and its difficult to get a good match for marriage. That's what I am pointing at, and such a rare union if not achieved may become a catastrophe. Men and women no exemption. That is, the risk is high and it has no moderator, like OP said; its for everybody to know the problem, which means nobody is meant to help solve the problem, as they also have their family to focus on. The whole thing arrives at mutual understanding, a man that doesn't get the kind of woman he wished for, can lose interest real quick.

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June 12, 2023, 02:27:39 AM
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Marriage is where a husband and wife are responsible for each other and accept each other's weaknesses and strengths. There are always problems in marriage. But that doesn't mean the problem is part of someone else's problem.

Marriage definitely has challenges that must be faced by husband and wife, who should strengthen each other and fight together. Instead of blaming each other. Husband and wife must be honest with each other. That way everything will be peaceful.
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June 12, 2023, 07:13:55 AM
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Well, there is the saying that if you can't take the heat in the kitchen, get out of it.

And that's what you have to do when you can't all of these whether it is the business or being a married guy. There's divorce if you can't take it anymore and it can't be resolved with talks.

For someone who just want to live free and doesn't want to deal with these normal problems, you know what to do. Don't get involved into marriage or even a business.

I think that is a different comparison, I can't get tired of seeing and wasn't always with them everyday. Marriage is fine, but different people have unique responses about it and how it may affect their daily life. Looking at the society today, lots of people behave in a strange way and its difficult to get a good match for marriage. That's what I am pointing at, and such a rare union if not achieved may become a catastrophe. Men and women no exemption. That is, the risk is high and it has no moderator, like OP said; its for everybody to know the problem, which means nobody is meant to help solve the problem, as they also have their family to focus on. The whole thing arrives at mutual understanding, a man that doesn't get the kind of woman he wished for, can lose interest real quick.
I've got a friend who's dealing with a difficult woman, well, he has married the woman and she's too manipulative but he said that he has chosen her so he has to deal her. While it's true that we find a woman based on how we think of them and looking if things will click through mutual understanding.

I even told him to prepare for the worst to come but good thing that this friend of mine was truly an example of what a man is and he's like the most patient guy. Yes, based on what you've said, we are different in tackling things in marriage and relationships and I saw the example on this friend of mine and I think that I can't be like that and I'll deal it differently if it's me.

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June 12, 2023, 11:57:19 AM
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just like business, when the business goes bad, it is everybody else problem, everybody, every taxpayer gotta bailout the bad business that goes broke, everyone would pay the taxes.

we all hope the husband would fix and help the marriage on his own. that is a wiseful thinking. i saw many married men have this very funny opinion, they always talk about their life suck, and foreveralone guy is better. It is clear to me now, he can't tix his marriage problem alone, when he got married, it is everybody else problems, it is the entire nations problems, it is internationally problem, everybody else gotta bailout the marriage!

How is it everybody's problem to bail out a failed business when it is a private enterprise. This is not true unless it is a business that is owned by government. Few times we see government offering bailout to private business as palliatives during hard times like what happened in my country during coronavirus in 2020. In marriage, it is more complicated than business. There are alot of married couples who can not fix their problems by themselves and they seek outside intervention. There is nothing bad in this. But they should meet marriage counsellors for help, not just any person on the streets.

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June 12, 2023, 07:14:31 PM
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May be op has forgotten that not everybody that will get married so this question is for people that want woman to bear children for them. There are many men that are not interested in marrying a woman, rather they will ask them to be there sex partner and have things together but will never get married.

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June 12, 2023, 07:21:54 PM
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just like business, when the business goes bad, it is everybody else problem, everybody, every taxpayer gotta bailout the bad business that goes broke, everyone would pay the taxes.

we all hope the husband would fix and help the marriage on his own. that is a wiseful thinking. i saw many married men have this very funny opinion, they always talk about their life suck, and foreveralone guy is better. It is clear to me now, he can't tix his marriage problem alone, when he got married, it is everybody else problems, it is the entire nations problems, it is internationally problem, everybody else gotta bailout the marriage!

How is it everybody's problem to bail out a failed business when it is a private enterprise. This is not true unless it is a business that is owned by government. Few times we see government offering bailout to private business as palliatives during hard times like what happened in my country during coronavirus in 2020. In marriage, it is more complicated than business. There are alot of married couples who can not fix their problems by themselves and they seek outside intervention. There is nothing bad in this. But they should meet marriage counsellors for help, not just any person on the streets.
This depends on you how you take Marriage for some people marriage is comfort and betterment,  for some its different and difficult . You cannot put your failures on marriage,  you should be responsible for your actions don't throw your baggage on anyone .

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June 12, 2023, 07:39:24 PM
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Dude, I think you should consider using Grammarly or put your thoughts in your native language first then use Google Translate your native language thoughts into English, I tried to understand what you're trying to say but to no avail. Are you talking about marriage? Economy? Or are you trying to point out similarities between economy and marriage.

Let's recap on what is marriage based on a definition given by a oxford dictionary
"the legal relationship between a husband and wife."

and the definition of business in a oxford dictionary
"the activity of making, buying, selling or supplying goods or services for money."

both marriage and business has totally ZERO similiarity in this context. However to save the business or marriage, it is not easy, I'm talking about saving a collapsing multi billions of dollars worth of business, it is not a one-person problem anymore, who is capable to fix a billion dollar problem alone? Is it even possible?
Since ops already stated that marriage and business have no similarity I wonder why he still overly mentioned both words as against each other, off cause there is no similarities between saving a collapsing marriage vs collapsing business and just as the first comment suggested, ops should try to put his thoughts together in a more understandable way or languages.

If I may get anything out and draft a contribution,  then I will mention the status of a multi-billion business that bankruptcy will become a global problem should be a business that has global economic interest such as the International Monetary Bank (IMB) or the world bank, this are the few institutions that can have such impact as ascertain by the ops, so that lead us to the next question which is how connected is this institution with marriage which is a micro institution between two people?
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June 12, 2023, 09:23:44 PM
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Come to realise that every person have its own problem but marital life or marriage life is not a problem of a man or a problem of woman it depends the kind of religion that you believe on it is when you will say that marriage is a problem manager never be a problem depend your own way of understanding the concept of marriage so from my opinion it is basically an agreement and the maturity

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June 13, 2023, 11:25:50 AM
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...some people dislike to be a couple their entire life...

Let me guess, you wanna talk about mgtow, btw not many guy could be self suffice. Many old guy want to have a maid to take care of them. That include a priest too.

...should place a high priority on communication, respect, and support
omg how i hope school begin to teach about woman logic, it would give us more bargaining power when it come to such indoctrination. btw school would not stop nurturing more and more wage slave, of course to serve the mega rich once they have finish the school with flying color, the top school leaver work very hard for the rich to make the rich get even richer. Smiley

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June 14, 2023, 02:03:26 PM
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Marriage is a blessing not a problem, except you get married to a troublesome wife or husband.
This is why we should be  becareful  to whom we marry to avoid more problems,  inspite of the fact that no perfect marriage anywhere in the world we more learn how to live in harmony with our spouse.

If you feels, marriage is full of problems, you will not marry, just accept the fact And pray to God to give you your heart desire.
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June 14, 2023, 05:19:49 PM
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marriage is everybody problems!


Marriage is a problem because people are getting divorced. "Marriage" means such a joining between people that they STAY married, forever, if they live that long. Divorce is a problem for the unmarried and for those who remain married, because it messes society up.


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June 15, 2023, 09:53:44 AM
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How is it everybody's problem to bail out a failed business when it is a private enterprise. This is not true unless it is a business that is owned by government. Few times we see government offering bailout to private business as palliatives during hard times like what happened in my country during coronavirus in 2020. In marriage, it is more complicated than business. There are alot of married couples who can not fix their problems by themselves and they seek outside intervention. There is nothing bad in this. But they should meet marriage counsellors for help, not just any person on the streets.
This depends on you how you take Marriage for some people marriage is comfort and betterment,  for some its different and difficult . You cannot put your failures on marriage,  you should be responsible for your actions don't throw your baggage on anyone .

Did you even read what I said completely. Did you? Because if you did you would have known that what you repeated was the exact thing I said in my comment. Go and read it again.

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June 15, 2023, 12:25:41 PM
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Well! I can tell that marriage is not a game and you really need to be a real man whenever you think you are ready to raise a family you can't be out there just looking for a random woman thinking that it could be the best time to get married and later on you were just joking because it turns out for you that life of a married man is serious and you wanted to quit. Before you ask her hand for marriage you need to consider every scenario when raising children and protecting your family, especially loving your wife more than any other random woman you meet. In that way, whenever life gets tough, you already have a way to ease the pain and you will grow until you are getting used to it. learning in the process with proper knowledge can also be helpful though.

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June 19, 2023, 05:38:28 PM
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 I found it almost difficult understanding the OP's statement, cause I couldn't tell whether he's referring to the roles couples should play in marriage then relating it with business made it a tough nut to crack.
 Well, there's a saying that every problem has a solution and the obstacles couples face in marriage is not exempted as well, a marriage is said to be failed when the couples are not having a peaceful coexistence between themselves and demand separation, therefore to avoid such both parties have a good role to play and their are many factors to consider such as
Love
Commitment
Generousity
Support
And most importantly loyalty.
 As a man and head of the family you ought to posses such qualities if not you don't expect to gain support and submission from your spouse, it's just like a business man not being good and kind to his employees and expecting their loyalty in return. Every man should try as much as possible to build a successful marriage because just like the OP said marriage is everyone's problem.
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