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November 30, 2023, 11:58:01 PM
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Goal has been ranked the teams based on their power

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/champions-league-2023-24-power-rankings/

1. Real madrid
2. Manchester city
3. Arsenal
4. Bayern
5. Intermilan

To be honest, i would value intermilan far stronger compared with arsenal and it shall be in the third place. Seeing intermilan was able reaching UCL final last season but arsenal was not even entering into the UCL. In my opinion, the author's assessment of Arsenal's score seems somewhat unusual.

The thing that surprises me that if author has been placing manchester united as the weakest team in the UCL so far. It's only above braga which is a shame. I fully agreed with the author regarding the position of manchester united.

United is now a mediocre team in UCL. It's finished now and united has probably 10% chance to qualify for the knock out stage. It shows that how garbage manchester united under ten hag.

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December 01, 2023, 12:08:31 AM
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Bayan Music did not attack well in this match which led to the match against Copenhagen not winning but ending in a draw. Although the two teams battled hard neither team managed to get the ball in the goal net due to which both teams lost the winning points. However, Copenhagen played brilliantly against Bayern Munich and managed to save the goal due to a good performance. However, top of the points table, Bayern Munich have not lost a match so far and have not drawn, but this is their first draw against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Bayern Munich are at the top of Group A Champions League with 13 points while the other teams with many less points will be very difficult to catch. Also betting avoidance was given a lot at the end of this match where people lost a lot I think. Because most people bet in favor of Bayern Munich, but the match was a draw, those who bet on the draw are the only ones who got double the amount of profit to win the bet.


If someone tells me that Bayern Munich won't be able to beat Copenhagen, I'll tell them that's a lie because of how they're playing in the Champions League this season. Although the game ended in a draw, Bayern Munich did not give it their all yesterday; even Harry Kane, who has been playing exceptionally well, was unable to score a goal. I believe they did that because it qualified them for the Round of 16, but at least they ought to try to play a game that would satisfy the supporters.

Onana made a mistake. It was difficult for MU to pass the group stage. He couldn't hide his disappointment and slowly left the field after making a mistake that caused MU to let Galatasaray draw 3-3. Andre Onana's 2 fatal mistakes were a vital reason MU let Galatasaray draw.
And Erik ten Hag should write a letter of resignation as coach. This draw leaves MU facing a considerable possibility of being eliminated in this season's Champions League. At this point, how can Erik ten Hag and his team win against the mighty Bayern Munich? Once the most valuable club, MU is surpassed by a small competitor.

Galatasaray's goals are all the result of Onanna. If someone argues that Onanna is not the issue, I will explain. Hakim Ziyech's two free kicks were simply small attempts at goal that Onana missed the post, allowing the goal to be scored. Given Onanna's performance from yesterday, even the academy goalie would not have performed that way. The team coach is also accountable for all of this, as he made a substitution that was ineffective despite Onanna's mistakes.


I agree with what Ancelotti said that Bellingham's presence is the best gift in football. Young age shows the mentality of a big player, leader and is able to become a turning point for the enthusiasm of other players to rise. If you see when he shows support for Joselu who keeps trying and trying to score a goal, finally a feeling of emotion and pride surrounds this match. Real Madrid victory today is meaningful and very valuable for anyone, the solidity of all the players working together is a team quality that is difficult to find in any club.

Real Madrid will always be Real Madrid; whether they have good players or not, they will always be able to play well. Because of the injuries to their players, I did not think Real Madrid would be able to defeat Napoli; the team's first goal confused me as to how they would win, but after Rodrigo's goal and another by Bellingham, I believe Real Madrid will prevail. Bellingham is currently the greatest midfield player in the world; he is a player who is willing to give his life for his team. Bellingham gave Joselu numerous assists yesterday, but he was unable to score, so I don't think signing Joselu is a wise move for Real Madrid.

numerous assists yesterday, but he was unable to score, so I don't think signing Joselu is a wise move for Real Madrid.
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Maybe Real Madrid and their fans should Joselu more than before. I think Joselu had a perfect performance recently in the game we saw from Real Madrid against Napoli and he did his best. However, Real Madrid is still trying to hire another player as a striker but I think even Joselu can be a reliable option for the current situation they have. Een after the game he scored he said sorry for not losing opportunities he had before.


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December 01, 2023, 12:28:09 AM
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Goal has been ranked the teams based on their power

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/champions-league-2023-24-power-rankings/

1. Real madrid
2. Manchester city
3. Arsenal
4. Bayern
5. Intermilan

To be honest, i would value intermilan far stronger compared with arsenal and it shall be in the third place. Seeing intermilan was able reaching UCL final last season but arsenal was not even entering into the UCL. In my opinion, the author's assessment of Arsenal's score seems somewhat unusual.

The thing that surprises me that if author has been placing manchester united as the weakest team in the UCL so far. It's only above braga which is a shame. I fully agreed with the author regarding the position of manchester united.

United is now a mediocre team in UCL. It's finished now and united has probably 10% chance to qualify for the knock out stage. It shows that how garbage manchester united under ten hag.

Real Madrid and Man City for me are the main favorites to win the title i give a bigger chance to Man City to defending it but when the knockout faze comes Real Madrid just becomes a superior team for some reason,so the title can go either way. Arsenal for me aint that good to reach even the final. While Man Utd is just awful and for them is a question if they can even get that third position.

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December 01, 2023, 12:56:57 AM
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It was quite unbelievable to see how Manchester United messed up their Uefa Champions League campaign this season by playing so badly despite being placed in a much easier group with only Bayern Munich being the most difficult team to handle. With only 4 points earned in Group A, Manchester United fans could only hope there will not be a match winner between FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next upcoming final group match. Manchester United will also need to beat Bayern Munich at the stadium of Old Trafford to stand a chance to qualify for the next stage of the tournament.
It is very hard to see Manchester United being at the bottom of the Uefa Champions League Group A, with clubs like Galatasaray, Copenhagen, and Bayern Munich. The chance of Manchester United to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League is low because Manchester United will have to beat Bayern Munich at home and hope that Galatasary and Copenhagen should be a draw match.

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December 01, 2023, 03:20:33 AM
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Ten Hag continued to leave his tactical mark in the disappointing draw against Galatasaray. He directed Martial and Mainoo to replace Amrabat and Hojlund while maintaining a good position against Galatasaray. However, as soon as this duo entered the field, the momentum of Mu completely fell apart. Martial showed little interest in pressing, allowing Galatasaray players to easily coordinate.

On the other hand, Mainoo didn't even touch the ball in the minutes he was on the field. The issue wasn't with Mainoo but with his teammates, who were too frantic. They aggressively tackled whenever the opponent had the ball, relieving pressure, but this disrupted the midfield rhythm. The Mu lineup was completely broken in the middle.

Mu's elimination was well-deserved, and it's uncertain how long Ten Hag will persist with his current approach.
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December 01, 2023, 03:33:50 AM
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all of games in the group A ended with draw as the final results. Manchester united was also getting the same result like bayern vs copenhagen. It seems like that the last match day will be determining which club that may be eligible for the last spot to go to the knock out stage.
I think that galatasray has bigger chance than manchester united. galatasaray will face copenhagen which was not a strong club. Manchester united must have faced one of its important competitor. Bayern munich.
The future of MU in UCL will be determining by how manchester united will able to push to beat bayern munich.

Manchester united shall go all in upcoming match or it will be out from UCL. I think that the chance for manchester united to beat munich at home was pretty small. If 1 of club between galatasaray and copenhagen will be winning the game.
It will become the end for manchester united. Ten hag may be sacked after mU will have done with its UCL journey. There are also many people who doubting united to win the game against bayern.
Yesterday's UCL games majorly ended with shared points to both teams, especially in the group A with Bayern Munich drawing to Copenhagen, although it was expected that it'd have been an easy win for them but one way or the other, the visiting team was at to mellow down the pressure. For United, it was a disappointment because they had the lead at the earliest minutes of the first half and they ought to have defended that lead to the last but they failed in every aspect.

 Now they'll have to be calculative in their chance of qualifying to the next round, it's either they win Munich and Galatasaray takes draw against Copenhagen or they'd definitely go down to disqualification. The odds are very poor that they'd compete to win Bayern. Both teams are far more distant in their strength level but next week UCL final group face off is awaited.

Another reason for people to trash on Manchester United. Trust me when I say this, sometimes I want to say good things about Manchester United. But they keep finding ways for me and a lot of people to talk trash about themselves. Anyway, there is still time for them I believe. Because the point difference is not big. Even though they have to pray that the other teams will have to lose, they still have a chance. At least that’s what I think. Anyway, so far, it is almost understandable which teams are going to qualify.

The mathematical equation is the only thing that is left. Of course, there are still going to be changes, but we have a general idea at this point.

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December 01, 2023, 04:08:32 AM
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Onana made a mistake. It was difficult for MU to pass the group stage. He couldn't hide his disappointment and slowly left the field after making a mistake that caused MU to let Galatasaray draw 3-3. Andre Onana's 2 fatal mistakes were a vital reason MU let Galatasaray draw.
And Erik ten Hag should write a letter of resignation as coach. This draw leaves MU facing a considerable possibility of being eliminated in this season's Champions League. At this point, how can Erik ten Hag and his team win against the mighty Bayern Munich? Once the most valuable club, MU is surpassed by a small competitor.

Galatasaray's goals are all the result of Onanna. If someone argues that Onanna is not the issue, I will explain. Hakim Ziyech's two free kicks were simply small attempts at goal that Onana missed the post, allowing the goal to be scored. Given Onanna's performance from yesterday, even the academy goalie would not have performed that way. The team coach is also accountable for all of this, as he made a substitution that was ineffective despite Onanna's mistakes.


Onana's mistakes put Man United at significant risk of ending up at the bottom of the table in the Champions League. Their hope seems very small. He may be preparing to be the next scapegoat after Harry Maguire. Man United pushed De Gea out the door. I know that De Gea made some mistakes last season, But he played very consistently during his time at Man United. They made a mistake when they replaced De Gea with Onana.

It's difficult when you're a player on the field and trying your best to get results, and then your goalkeeper throws away all his efforts by conceding goals again and again. However, coach Erik Ten Hag still tried to protect Onana. In fact, he is considered the worst goalkeeper in the Champions League in the last 6 seasons.

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December 01, 2023, 04:17:07 AM
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Ten Hag continued to leave his tactical mark in the disappointing draw against Galatasaray. He directed Martial and Mainoo to replace Amrabat and Hojlund while maintaining a good position against Galatasaray. However, as soon as this duo entered the field, the momentum of Mu completely fell apart. Martial showed little interest in pressing, allowing Galatasaray players to easily coordinate.

On the other hand, Mainoo didn't even touch the ball in the minutes he was on the field. The issue wasn't with Mainoo but with his teammates, who were too frantic. They aggressively tackled whenever the opponent had the ball, relieving pressure, but this disrupted the midfield rhythm. The Mu lineup was completely broken in the middle.

Mu's elimination was well-deserved, and it's uncertain how long Ten Hag will persist with his current approach.

I think by now Manchester United should realise that the coach is not doing a good job. I didn't think that he actually did a good job at all. But now it has become more evident. If Manchester United keep trusting him, he's going to leave them to a destination that Manchester United really does not want to be in. I'm going to be honest if he is not kicked out of the Manchester United club, Manchester United is going to end up being a mid-table team. They really should bring in someone like Zidane or Carlo Ancelotti.

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December 01, 2023, 04:24:52 AM
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Ten Hag continued to leave his tactical mark in the disappointing draw against Galatasaray. He directed Martial and Mainoo to replace Amrabat and Hojlund while maintaining a good position against Galatasaray. However, as soon as this duo entered the field, the momentum of Mu completely fell apart. Martial showed little interest in pressing, allowing Galatasaray players to easily coordinate.
Martial is bad now. he is out of his peak performance. I was seeing it as a common thing. This strategy was working when it was against everton which was far weaker compared to the galatasaray but manchester united forgot that if that is galatasaray. Ziyech was motm.


On the other hand, Mainoo didn't even touch the ball in the minutes he was on the field. The issue wasn't with Mainoo but with his teammates, who were too frantic. They aggressively tackled whenever the opponent had the ball, relieving pressure, but this disrupted the midfield rhythm. The Mu lineup was completely broken in the middle.
MU played differently in UCL. I don't know what was the problem is but this is really awful to see how mainoo was rarely getting the ball. Despite the bad coach and manchester united is also having so many selfish players in the club.
Manchester united doesn't have someone who can play perfectly at the middle. Mid is always become the main weakness by manchester united. Mainoo was good but he was not experienced enough to be trusted by his teammates.

Mu's elimination was well-deserved, and it's uncertain how long Ten Hag will persist with his current approach.
MU is only one step away from the elimination. If copenhagen or galatasaray win the last match day and it will make manchester united finished or goes down to the europa league.

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December 01, 2023, 04:25:37 AM
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Onana's mistakes put Man United at significant risk of ending up at the bottom of the table in the Champions League. Their hope seems very small. He may be preparing to be the next scapegoat after Harry Maguire. Man United pushed De Gea out the door. I know that De Gea made some mistakes last season, But he played very consistently during his time at Man United. They made a mistake when they replaced De Gea with Onana.

now De Gea must be laughing at what happened to Ten Hag's choice to push him out of the team. The next opponent is Munich, and I don't think there is any hope for United to finish in 3rd place and head to the Europa League play off round. that possibility is very small now.
I don't know what other reasons Ten Hag will come up with. what is certain is that United will probably not retain him as United's coach. and I believe his performance this season is enough reason for United to sack him.
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December 01, 2023, 04:33:05 AM
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Onana made a mistake. It was difficult for MU to pass the group stage. He couldn't hide his disappointment and slowly left the field after making a mistake that caused MU to let Galatasaray draw 3-3. Andre Onana's 2 fatal mistakes were a vital reason MU let Galatasaray draw.
And Erik ten Hag should write a letter of resignation as coach. This draw leaves MU facing a considerable possibility of being eliminated in this season's Champions League. At this point, how can Erik ten Hag and his team win against the mighty Bayern Munich? Once the most valuable club, MU is surpassed by a small competitor.

After watching Manchester United and Galatasaray for the second time I discovered that the first freekick by Hakim Ziyech was deflected so André Onana shouldn't be blamed for that goal. Deflected shots are very complicated and could displace any goalkeeper regardless of his quality. But the second goal was a total shame to a goalkeeper at the Cameroonian class and experience. I think it is time for Erik ten Hag to consider keeping him on the bench or rotating him and other goalkeepers. If the club are not comfortable with other goalkeepers a new goolie should be bought in January. His mistakes are becoming consistent and I think the club has given him enough time to improve.

I think by now Manchester United should realise that the coach is not doing a good job. I didn't think that he actually did a good job at all. But now it has become more evident. If Manchester United keep trusting him, he's going to leave them to a destination that Manchester United really does not want to be in. I'm going to be honest if he is not kicked out of the Manchester United club, Manchester United is going to end up being a mid-table team. They really should bring in someone like Zidane or Carlo Ancelotti.

Manchester United is a big club and we all expect much from them. But the club is not doing badly in the Premiership. They are still in a good position to compete for the Premiership title. At least the club is better than Chelsea who spend a fortune on players and are still struggling yet the club is still patient with Mauricio Pochettino. The club might have little chance to qualify for the Champions League but this happens to some big clubs sometimes. Last season Barcelona failed to qualify for the second round of the competition the club allowed Xavi Hernandez to continue and they have comfortably qualified this season. Erik ten Hag is a good coach, he showed his quality in Ajax, so I think he should be given more time.

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December 01, 2023, 04:43:26 AM
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Real Madrid and Man City for me are the main favorites to win the title i give a bigger chance to Man City to defending it but when the knockout faze comes Real Madrid just becomes a superior team for some reason,so the title can go either way. Arsenal for me aint that good to reach even the final. While Man Utd is just awful and for them is a question if they can even get that third position.
I have different opinion at the moment, Madrid and Man City are still favorites for everyone, but I really hope that Bayern Munich will be next team that will challenge the two favorite teams to see new history every season, not dominated by Real madrid or Man City alone and I say all this because I really see how the depth of Bayern Munich players is now more solid after the arrival of Kane Munich has become more consistent.

and for Man united it seems there is no hope of being in third place after a poor performance only ended in draw even though they had taken lead early and finally had to play against Bayern Munich who are one of the strongest teams in group A.

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December 01, 2023, 04:56:40 AM
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It was quite unbelievable to see how Manchester United messed up their Uefa Chamions League campaign this season by playing so badly despite being placed in a much easier group with only Bayern Munich being the most difficult team to handle. With only 4 points earned in Group A, Manchester United fans could only hope there will not be a match winner between FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next upcoming final group match. Manchester United will also need to beat Bayern Munich at the stadium of Old Trafford to stand a chance to qualify for the next stage of the tournament.
Manchester United is making things difficult for themselves even though they are in a relatively easy group, only Bayern Munich is a team that is difficult for Manchester United to surpass, at least they can secure second place more quickly if they are able to maintain their performance like last season. This season's performance has disappointed many parties, including management who have spent large amounts of money to bring in quality players. MU fans will also not remain silent about the conditions experienced by their favorite team limping in the UCL, they will voice Ten Hag's dismissal for failing to meet the expectations of all parties.

As a result of wasting the opportunity that was before their eyes when they visited Galatasaray headquarters, now their chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds is very small. Galatasaray and Copenhagen will try to find a way to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16.

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December 01, 2023, 04:59:32 AM
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Ten Hag continued to leave his tactical mark in the disappointing draw against Galatasaray. He directed Martial and Mainoo to replace Amrabat and Hojlund while maintaining a good position against Galatasaray. However, as soon as this duo entered the field, the momentum of Mu completely fell apart. Martial showed little interest in pressing, allowing Galatasaray players to easily coordinate.
Martial is bad now. he is out of his peak performance. I was seeing it as a common thing. This strategy was working when it was against everton which was far weaker compared to the galatasaray but manchester united forgot that if that is galatasaray. Ziyech was motm.
Ten Hag had the wrong strategy and line-up when they entered the second half, perhaps in the first half they succeeded in pressing Galatasaray and created an advantage with two goals which made the first half score 2 - 1 and when entering the second half Manchester United were able to gain the advantage 3 - 1 but after that they failed.
The inclusion of several players could not improve Manchester United performance and in the end they conceded 2 goals which made the score equal.
This was an interesting match.

On the other hand, Mainoo didn't even touch the ball in the minutes he was on the field. The issue wasn't with Mainoo but with his teammates, who were too frantic. They aggressively tackled whenever the opponent had the ball, relieving pressure, but this disrupted the midfield rhythm. The Mu lineup was completely broken in the middle.
MU played differently in UCL. I don't know what was the problem is but this is really awful to see how mainoo was rarely getting the ball. Despite the bad coach and manchester united is also having so many selfish players in the club.
Manchester united doesn't have someone who can play perfectly at the middle. Mid is always become the main weakness by manchester united. Mainoo was good but he was not experienced enough to be trusted by his teammates.
Yes Kobbie Mainoo didn't make good contribution and he really looked bad in this match, whereas this is an opportunity for Manchester United to get full points and secure the position.
Everything failed just as it was predicted that Manchester United would not enter the top 16.
The last match will be the most difficult match because they will face the strongest team in the group, namely Bayern Munich.

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Why shouldn't this defeat be to Onana's credit? The second Ziyesh goal should be taken by any goalkeeper and if anyone is not to blame in this situation, it is De Hea, because it turns out that he almost single-handedly pulled out an average club in his time.
Most will say it's his fault but I saw the game and honestly, the second goal was just too powerful for him to take and coupled with Anthony Martial blocking his way, I feel any keeper will miss it. David de Gea is a good keeper but most times, even the best keepers are susceptible to such mistakes due to stress. I just feel he needs more rest time and let their second choice keeper, Jack Butland be given time to showcase his skills.
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So Manchester itself deserved what is happening to it now and apart from the failed transfers the management should not have let De Hea be sacked like that, considering how much De Hea has done for the club. It was quite possible to leave him second to replace Onana, but apparently Ten Hag decided to show that he is a tough coach and De Hea's contract was not renewed and now Manchester will be good if they get into the europa league, because for that we need to gain points with Bayern Munich.
For me, Man UTD's problem is bigger than we are seeing. For them getting into the Europa is if Bayern will be lenient and that's a big probability I'm not willing to bet on. The team's good but the ownership and the coach is also affecting their way of playing. I'm already sure they won't qualify for Europa league but anything can happen.

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December 01, 2023, 07:02:07 AM
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Goal has been ranked the teams based on their power

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/champions-league-2023-24-power-rankings/

1. Real madrid
2. Manchester city
3. Arsenal
4. Bayern
5. Intermilan

To be honest, i would value intermilan far stronger compared with arsenal and it shall be in the third place. Seeing intermilan was able reaching UCL final last season but arsenal was not even entering into the UCL. In my opinion, the author's assessment of Arsenal's score seems somewhat unusual.

The thing that surprises me that if author has been placing manchester united as the weakest team in the UCL so far. It's only above braga which is a shame. I fully agreed with the author regarding the position of manchester united.

United is now a mediocre team in UCL. It's finished now and united has probably 10% chance to qualify for the knock out stage. It shows that how garbage manchester united under ten hag.

Quite a normal assessment (pair Arsenal - Inter). Arsenal are consistently good in the Premier League and in the group stage of the Champions League Arsenal are also playing convincingly. And Inter, although playing well in Serie A, is poor in the group stage - at the moment they are losing the group to Sociedad and all their victories were won with a minimum score.
I wonder why Real are higher than City - City have virtually no weaknesses, while Real have them (at least on paper). In my opinion, the top three should look like: City, Bayern, Real Madrid.

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December 01, 2023, 07:23:22 AM
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Manchester United is making things difficult for themselves even though they are in a relatively easy group, only Bayern Munich is a team that is difficult for Manchester United to surpass, at least they can secure second place more quickly if they are able to maintain their performance like last season. This season's performance has disappointed many parties, including management who have spent large amounts of money to bring in quality players. MU fans will also not remain silent about the conditions experienced by their favorite team limping in the UCL, they will voice Ten Hag's dismissal for failing to meet the expectations of all parties.

As a result of wasting the opportunity that was before their eyes when they visited Galatasaray headquarters, now their chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds is very small. Galatasaray and Copenhagen will try to find a way to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16.

This is the Champions League which is filled with the best teams in Europe, nothing is easy here but because Manchester United's performance has really declined this season, it is only natural that they are experiencing difficulties.
The draw against Galatasaray means that everything is over for Manchester United, even though mathematically Manchester United still has the possibility of qualifying, provided they have to win the last match against Bayern and hope that Copenhagen draws against Galatasaray, that's an impossible mission in my opinion.

With the poor performance shown by Manchester United since the beginning of this season, in my opinion what is happening now is no longer a surprise, they deserve not to qualify from the group because their team's performance is no better than Galatasaray and Copenhagen.

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December 01, 2023, 07:33:51 AM
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Why shouldn't this defeat be to Onana's credit? The second Ziyesh goal should be taken by any goalkeeper and if anyone is not to blame in this situation, it is De Hea, because it turns out that he almost single-handedly pulled out an average club in his time.
Most will say it's his fault but I saw the game and honestly, the second goal was just too powerful for him to take and coupled with Anthony Martial blocking his way, I feel any keeper will miss it. David de Gea is a good keeper but most times, even the best keepers are susceptible to such mistakes due to stress. I just feel he needs more rest time and let their second choice keeper, Jack Butland be given time to showcase his skills.
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So Manchester itself deserved what is happening to it now and apart from the failed transfers the management should not have let De Hea be sacked like that, considering how much De Hea has done for the club. It was quite possible to leave him second to replace Onana, but apparently Ten Hag decided to show that he is a tough coach and De Hea's contract was not renewed and now Manchester will be good if they get into the europa league, because for that we need to gain points with Bayern Munich.
For me, Man UTD's problem is bigger than we are seeing. For them getting into the Europa is if Bayern and Copenhagen will be lenient and that's a big probability I'm not willing to bet on. The team's good but the ownership and the coach is also affecting their way of playing. I'm already sure they won't qualify for Europa league but anything can happen.
Manchester United are still a strong brand and UEFA won't just let them drop out completely, just the europa league I think will suit everyone. Manchester United will be able to fight there more or less on equal terms with those teams that are there, which means that fans will still be able to see their team play at Old Trafford.

Of course, Manchester's problems are complex and Onana is only a small part of them. Apparently at some point the management started to make mistakes and gradually one by one they started to pull the team down. First, they did not renew the contract with De Hea, then allowed Ten Hag to exclude players, and not always justifiably, and apparently the players gradually looking at everything that happens, realized that nothing good awaits them in this team and began to play without excitement, just working off the contract.

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December 01, 2023, 07:47:57 AM
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Manchester United is making things difficult for themselves even though they are in a relatively easy group, only Bayern Munich is a team that is difficult for Manchester United to surpass, at least they can secure second place more quickly if they are able to maintain their performance like last season. This season's performance has disappointed many parties, including management who have spent large amounts of money to bring in quality players. MU fans will also not remain silent about the conditions experienced by their favorite team limping in the UCL, they will voice Ten Hag's dismissal for failing to meet the expectations of all parties.

As a result of wasting the opportunity that was before their eyes when they visited Galatasaray headquarters, now their chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds is very small. Galatasaray and Copenhagen will try to find a way to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16.

This is the Champions League which is filled with the best teams in Europe, nothing is easy here but because Manchester United's performance has really declined this season, it is only natural that they are experiencing difficulties.
The draw against Galatasaray means that everything is over for Manchester United, even though mathematically Manchester United still has the possibility of qualifying, provided they have to win the last match against Bayern and hope that Copenhagen draws against Galatasaray, that's an impossible mission in my opinion.

With the poor performance shown by Manchester United since the beginning of this season, in my opinion what is happening now is no longer a surprise, they deserve not to qualify from the group because their team's performance is no better than Galatasaray and Copenhagen.

The Pre-season was enough message to the world and Manchester United fans. They performed poorly and took all that mentality to the Premier League and then to the Champions League. It's not over until it's over. Anything can definitely happen you get me?
Galatasaray - Copenhagen would both want to qualify tougher game ain't it? Manchester United just have to focus on winning Bayern Munich and it a draw results from Galatasaray and Copenhagen, Manchester United might scale through miraculously. This is the time they'll be need a miracle otherwise, Erik Ten Hag should be blamed. Not as a bad manager but sentimental and poor decisions with his emotions.

Injuries also contributed to tue failure of Manchester United fans at the beginning of the season. Meanwhile, Andrea Onana should have done better to save those goals. He was the last hope.for Manchester United and he couldn't save shit!!

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December 01, 2023, 07:56:39 AM
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It was quite unbelievable to see how Manchester United messed up their Uefa Chamions League campaign this season by playing so badly despite being placed in a much easier group with only Bayern Munich being the most difficult team to handle. With only 4 points earned in Group A, Manchester United fans could only hope there will not be a match winner between FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next upcoming final group match. Manchester United will also need to beat Bayern Munich at the stadium of Old Trafford to stand a chance to qualify for the next stage of the tournament.
At first I thought that Group A belonged to Bayern Munich and Manchester United but in reality Manchester United continue to face difficulties so they lost when face the 3 club in group A. I didn't expect Manchester United to experience a significant decline this season and it look likes Manchester United there is no chances of qualifying for the rounds of 16 and does not qualify for the play-off round in the European League because Manchester United is at the bottom and only has the fewest point.

in the next match I am not sure whether Manchester United will be able to beat Bayern Munich even though they are play at home, Bayern Munich is a team thats is not easy to beat but if Bayern Munich is will to be merciful and give in to make Manchester United win then Manchester United can have a chance to qualify for round of 16, but that's if Bayern Munich feels sorry for Erik Ten Hag team Grin but that what happen if no one wins the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match.

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