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Author Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season  (Read 133516 times)
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December 01, 2023, 08:09:18 PM
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Manchester United won't be able to qualify, even though the possibility is small, they are not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they still have a lot to improve in their squad because in my opinion they should focus more on the EPL and improve their position so they don't get worse. in the domestic league, they can still have the opportunity to get another UCL ticket next season.

Of course they need more time to overhaul everything to make it better next season, I'm also not sure from the start they can qualify from the group because it looks like there are a lot of things they are not ready to face in the UCL this season, whatever it is, Manchester United still needs to learn a lot more. much more from every defeat they experience and improve it afterwards to become a better team.
The scenario is that if Man United wants to qualify, they must win against Bayern Munich while hoping that Galatasary will draw against Copenhagen. If they win against Munich, MU's points will be 7, whereas if Copenhagen draws against Galatasaray their points will both be 6.

If you win against Bayern Munich, but in the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, someone wins, they will qualify for the UEL, for example Man United wins against Munich with 7 points, whereas if Copenhagen wins against Galatasaray the points will be 8 so those who qualify for the last 16 will be Bayern Munich and Copenhagen while Man United will have 7 points. Finish 3rd which means welcome to UEL.

But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

There's no better way to ask the question! Manchester United will need a miracle to win against Bayern Munich. It's football and anything can happen but Manchester United would find it difficult even of Bayern Munich have qualified completely for the knockouts.
But personally I double doubt they'll be taking the chances they have when they could not when they was leading three goals to one against Galatasaray.

Galatasaray versus Copenhagen must have a winner at the end of that game believe me. With the way Galatasaray approached Manchester United, they could do same against Copenhagen who had a point to share during the first game in the month of September.

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December 01, 2023, 08:10:58 PM
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Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
I think that is true because there is no way Manchester United can beat Bayern Munich in the remaining matches. They should be aware that their chances are over after the draw against Galatasaray and they will have to go home early in the competition. Andre Onana was a failed purchase and Inter are very happy to be doing business with Manchester United.
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December 01, 2023, 08:20:34 PM
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Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
Manchester United dissapointed the fans who expected some incredible performance but they couldn't hold on to the normal standard levels. UEFA Champions League matches are prioritized for important clubs that have ambition to reach the significant stages in major tournaments. Perhapes, you shouldn't conclude all the outcomes, all hope are not lost because there are still a game for Manchester United and its against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford. Erik Ten Hag will prepare his men for the big game ahead and he won't feel reluctant when playing against such elite teams.

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December 01, 2023, 08:22:19 PM
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Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
It will be difficult to win Bayern Munich but it's aswell not impossible to win Bayern Munich so we can't be too sure till the game is actually over. It's true that on paper Bayern is the favourite and has got more edge then the red devils but then I think there's still a way out.

If Bayern Munich decides to try out their rotational squad because the outcome of this game has got no effect on them a they have successfully secured their spot at the round of sixteen already, in a case such as this were Bayern Munich decides to try out something in this light, Manchester united may get a chance at it because they may most likely have an edge a they will be playing at old Trafford so all this could possibly create a chance for Manchester united.

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December 01, 2023, 09:01:18 PM
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Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
It will be difficult to win Bayern Munich but it's aswell not impossible to win Bayern Munich so we can't be too sure till the game is actually over. It's true that on paper Bayern is the favourite and has got more edge then the red devils but then I think there's still a way out.

If Bayern Munich decides to try out their rotational squad because the outcome of this game has got no effect on them a they have successfully secured their spot at the round of sixteen already, in a case such as this were Bayern Munich decides to try out something in this light, Manchester united may get a chance at it because they may most likely have an edge a they will be playing at old Trafford so all this could possibly create a chance for Manchester united.
It seems to me that Manchester United cannot afford to give up on the UCL as their chances to make it to the next round are not as bad as it may seem, Bayern has already qualified and it makes not much difference for them if they win the match or not, so I think it is a given Bayern will give the chance to some of the players on their bench to see the field, and this could give Manchester United enough of an edge to get the win, and if Copenhagen and Galatasaray tie on their match then Manchester United will make it to the next round.
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December 01, 2023, 09:08:50 PM
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Manchester United should forget about qualifying for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League and focus on their Premier League matches because they have a big test to beat Bayern Munich on match day 6, which will be difficult for them to achieve. Onana will be another reason why Manchester United can not defeat Bayern Munich because of his errors.
I think that is true because there is no way Manchester United can beat Bayern Munich in the remaining matches. They should be aware that their chances are over after the draw against Galatasaray and they will have to go home early in the competition. Andre Onana was a failed purchase and Inter are very happy to be doing business with Manchester United.

A team like Manchester United in this situation should not even think about racing with others like Bayern Munich in the Champions League with the current situation they have in this team and I think they're better off saving some potential for the remaining game in the premier league to move their pale in the league where they can have much better hope and better performance.

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December 01, 2023, 09:17:48 PM
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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
You are right, apart from winning the match, Manchester United must hope for Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw. If that happens, then Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16. The problem is that this is the toughest scenario for Manchester United because all teams have their own missions. In fact I believe Galatasaray could possibly win the match against Copenhagen rather than loss or draw.

It is difficult to predict such a match because one of the 3 teams still has hope of qualifying. Maybe it would be a good thing for Manchester United to win the match regardless of the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, at least it could open up good hopes for them.

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December 01, 2023, 10:16:01 PM
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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
You are right, apart from winning the match, Manchester United must hope for Copenhagen and Galatasaray to draw. If that happens, then Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16. The problem is that this is the toughest scenario for Manchester United because all teams have their own missions. In fact I believe Galatasaray could possibly win the match against Copenhagen rather than loss or draw.

It is difficult to predict such a match because one of the 3 teams still has hope of qualifying. Maybe it would be a good thing for Manchester United to win the match regardless of the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, at least it could open up good hopes for them.

Maybe in the last season of the Champions League, nobody could even imagine seeing steam like Copenhagen or Galatasaray get these results in this tournament while racing with many strong teams but this time they are lucky enough to be in the same group as Manchester United while they are not in the god form and that's why there is a high chance for both Galatasaray and Copenhagen to pass this stage.
 

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December 01, 2023, 10:20:54 PM
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But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

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I have different opinion at the moment, Madrid and Man City are still favorites for everyone, but I really hope that Bayern Munich will be next team that will challenge the two favorite teams to see new history every season, not dominated by Real madrid or Man City alone and I say all this because I really see how the depth of Bayern Munich players is now more solid after the arrival of Kane Munich has become more consistent.

and for Man united it seems there is no hope of being in third place after a poor performance only ended in draw even though they had taken lead early and finally had to play against Bayern Munich who are one of the strongest teams in group A.
For this season, it looks like we will still see potential candidates consisting of the 4 strongest teams when looking at the depth of their squad, such as Inter Milan, Bayern munich, Real Madrid and also Manchester City. But one team that is most underestimated is Arsenal and I will make Arsenal my favorite team this season. So, this season, Arsenal, which is known as a team inhabited by many young players, is starting to appear impressive, whether in the Champions league or in the domestic league. where they are very strong and able to put a lot of pressure on the group they are in.

Saka et al will be able to bring many surprises in the round of 16 and this is the beginning of Arsenal return to true strength in the Champions League. Arteta is a great coach he has built an arsenal squad with young player and he can project in the long term. This season, Arsenal are very strong in group B, collecting 12 points and they can no longer be chased by the teams below them. The last match of the second leg didn't mean anything to them because Arsenal had already secured themselves as group winners.

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December 01, 2023, 10:43:16 PM
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But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Mate don't say that to Manchester united even though they have not gotten the best results in the champions league so far they can still manage to surprise the world by beating Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich may decide not to take the match seriously. Regardless of what happened between Manchester united and Galatasaray, therw could be a change since we understand that football is full of uncertainty Manchester United can make out something against Bayern Munich while Galatasaray plays a draw with Copenhagen.

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December 01, 2023, 10:49:02 PM
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But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Mate don't say that to Manchester united even though they have not gotten the best results in the champions league so far they can still manage to surprise the world by beating Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich may decide not to take the match seriously. Regardless of what happened between Manchester united and Galatasaray, therw could be a change since we understand that football is full of uncertainty Manchester United can make out something against Bayern Munich while Galatasaray plays a draw with Copenhagen.

But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.

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December 01, 2023, 11:20:29 PM
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I don't think is possible for Manchester United to qualify from there group because there point is quite low from other team but if they had improved on there performance earlier they would have win themselves to the third position on there table.

However there group match against Bayern Munich is quite impossible for them to win the match because Bayern Munich is very good on this season and they have won almost all there matches this season, but however even if Manchester United wins them there is still know chance of Manchester United to qualify because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will never play draw and any side that wins become the second position on the group.

Yes, it's a tight corner for Manchester united but the funny thing is that they got themselves in that position in the first place. If they'd just nailed that Galatasaray on Wednesday — I didn't expect them to blow their 0-2 lead and settle for a draw because they were coming into that game high-flying last weekend from a thrilling win so I expected more. In any case, I'd be welcoming Man Utd to the Europa league where my team, Liverpool is currently the top favorite to win the trophy this season. It'll be interesting to go head to head with this man utd team that looks more improved compared to last season.

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December 01, 2023, 11:35:23 PM
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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.
It is very possible that Bayern Munich coach (Tuchel) sends some of their key players to the bench. Basically, the last match won't impact anything to their status, Bayern Munich will be the winner of group A whatever the result of the last match. I'm sure Tuchel will prefer to put substituted players for the lineup against Man United. However, it won't be an easy match although Bayern Munich will play with their substituted players.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen will be the key. Man United only has a chance to qualify if the match ends up with a draw. But if it doesn't end up with a draw, Man United has no chance to finish in 2nd place.


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December 02, 2023, 12:08:00 AM
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But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.
However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.


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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.
It is very possible that Bayern Munich coach (Tuchel) sends some of their key players to the bench. Basically, the last match won't impact anything to their status, Bayern Munich will be the winner of group A whatever the result of the last match. I'm sure Tuchel will prefer to put substituted players for the lineup against Man United. However, it won't be an easy match although Bayern Munich will play with their substituted players.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.
The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen will be the key. Man United only has a chance to qualify if the match ends up with a draw. But if it doesn't end up with a draw, Man United has no chance to finish in 2nd place.


I don't think Manchester United have any chance of qualifying from this group anymore because their next game is Bayern Munich,and there is no way United can win Munich,if they cannot get a win against Galatasary or Copenhagen,then their hope is already lost.Buf I still don't know the reason Manchester United couldn't qualify from that group because to me,the group was one of the easiest groups in the competition,but because they aren't  consistent enough,they have sold out the only chance they had to qualify from the group,and a win against Galatasary was the only chance they had,and it was going to be very good for them because Bayern and Copenhagen drew,that is to say they didn't move further more on the table.

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December 02, 2023, 01:42:30 AM
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But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.
However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.



If we focus on this season, which were those strong teams that Manchester United exceed expectations against? They lost against Tottenham, Arsenal, Brighton, Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Newcastle, then also against Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. I am sorry but I can't see where they exceeded expectations this season. This is why I hope that they now get kicked out and this drama surrounding them comes to an end. It isn't exactly a pleasure to watch them play in the top games. Those times are over and they need to adjust a lot of things or come up with some significant changes.

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December 02, 2023, 01:47:23 AM
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We keep our fingers crossed as we await the resumption of the next round of the competition after the final matches of the group stage.
Yeah, four more teams are going to qualify in the final round of games and it is going to be interesting to find out which teams it's going to be, Group A and Group F is where the most drama is. Copenhagen, Galatasaray and United all have a chance to qualify, though it is no longer in United's hands, they have to win their own game against Bayern Munich and hope for a draw in the other game, it'd be a miracle for things to pan out in that way.

Group F is tough as well, Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan all have a chance to qualify too, but it is no longer in Newcastle's hands, they have to beat AC Milan in their own game and hope that Dortmund do them a favor by holding down PSG to at least a draw. The final game would be so important for these teams and interesting from a neutral point of view.

There have been some teams that I expected to qualify for the next stage of the Champions League competition. But it is what it is. I would still say that the teams that have been able to qualify for the next stage deserved it. They had fought hard for it after all.

But I have something to say about the Newcastle vs PSG match. Do you guys actually think that the penalty should have been given to PSG? I really think that the penalty shouldn't have been given. The player was not even looking at the ball. And he was running, the ball hit his hand when he was in a Natural running position. But I think it was given just because of two reasons. First of all, it was blunt. And secondly, they know that PSG is going to bring them more viewers from the Champions League compared to Newcastle.

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I don't think Manchester United have any chance of qualifying from this group anymore because their next game is Bayern Munich,and there is no way United can win Munich,if they cannot get a win against Galatasary or Copenhagen,then their hope is already lost.Buf I still don't know the reason Manchester United couldn't qualify from that group because to me,the group was one of the easiest groups in the competition,but because they aren't  consistent enough,they have sold out the only chance they had to qualify from the group,and a win against Galatasary was the only chance they had,and it was going to be very good for them because Bayern and Copenhagen drew,that is to say they didn't move further more on the table.
Erik Ten Hag should discipline his players for all these poor performance in the UEFA Champions League this season. Manchester united is not any other random team that qualify with luck rather they deserved a spot in UCL and they got it, but they can't impress anyone with these performance. I think we're misunderstanding something here when it comes to Manchester United, they have all the chances in the world to qualify for the next UCL phase but they messed up their chances, losing to Bayern Munich 4-3 in the first leg, lost to Galatasary 3-2 in the first leg, won Copenhagen 1-0 and losing to Copenhagen 4-3 again in the second leg, draw ties 3-3 with Galatasary and now they will be hosting Bayern Munich in Old Trafford probably by next week.

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But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.
However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.

The only miracle that can help manchester united at this moment is if galatasaray will get draw against copenhagen but it's unlikely to happen caused by galatasaray and copenhagen will be trying to use everything to win the game.
I don't even see a chance owned by united but miracle can give it to the united. Ten hag shall hope and pray that their competitors will get draw and so the chance for united to qualify for the upcoming stage is still there.

People are waiting for the last match day to begin. Im thinking about the result from UCL is going to be the end for ten hag. I hope that united owner will consider to replace him with a better coach.
Ten hag has made no progress in united. A few years have passed and ten hag gave no change to the united.
This problem shall be addressed by the club owner of manchester united will always be in the bad performance. I can't even accept ten hag to manage united till next season.

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