UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[QueenVera]

It seems that Lance has found his game in recent games and started playing better, but they have to play away games against Arsenal and PSV, these will be difficult games and it will not be easy for them to get points in this match. Sevilla still looks doubtful, for some reason they show a good game, but are not able to achieve important victories, at best they are draws. And they have to play two very difficult matches away, against Arsenal and Lens, so I see that their chances for reaching the playoffs are not very good.

After a awful start this season it's s very good that they picked up form early if not it would've really affected their performance currently however Lens performance well against Arsenal in their home ground even while they were not really in a very good form but since they've improved they could really give Arsenal a tough game but it's not going to be very easy cause they're going to the home ground of the Gunners.

  Maybe they could win the rest two clubs especially Sevilla who's form in the UCL is nothing to talk about, as usually they won't really put much effort to qualify for the next round but would rather drop from the group stage to go fight for the Europa League trophy, probably win it and get a spot for the UCL,  so it's a very big advantage for Lens against Sevilla and  I think in their group it's Arsenal and Lens that would qualify.

[twiki]

Usually a game that is announced as Galatasaray Istanbul vs. Manchester United wouldn't be all that exciting, but this time it is indeed a top game in the Champions League because Galatasaray has delivered some impressive performances and Manchester United has to win the game or they would literally be game over in that group to qualify for the final round. But not only that, I also think that losing against Galatasaray could mean the beginning of the end for ten Hag. There will be so much fire in the game with all the glorious Istanbul fans! I recently read that it is the second loudest stadium in the world? Holy it must be intimidating to play there when there is no way out but to win the game. There is only one thing that would help Manchester United and that is a very early goal.

Did you watch the first 70 minutes of the Galatasaray-Bayern Munich game?
Galatasaray played so well that Bayern Munich couldn't do anything.
This year Galatasaray is playing very well and the fans are giving great support.

Harry Kane; Galatasaray fans deafened me.

M.United will come to one of the loudest stadiums in the world.

Yes I am with you here. I saw the game Galatasaray-Bayern Munich and if they repeat that game exactly like that a dozen of times, Galatasaray wins it 80% of the time I think. They had far superior chances and dominated the game really for 70 minutes, it was crazy to watch. But they defeated themselves because if you don't turn those opportunities into goals, it is almost inevitable to lose the game against Bayern Munich eventually. They could have had a lead of maybe 2-0 or on a lucky day 3-0. I think if they scored the first goal, Bayern Munich might have collapsed in that game.

Galatasaray surprised me all the time. What is it worth to watch their game while being live at the match? And especially when Galatasaray and their avid enemy Besiktas are confronting!
incredible sight.
Galatasaray entered the Champions League this time with a completely different approach and tactics. This is why their playing is so wonderful.

[BRINIRHA]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

Do you mean Manchester United? if he is then I agree with you. I see that Man Utd still cannot return to their current best performance. In fact, I am a little doubtful whether they will qualify from the group stage or not. But if what you mean is Man City then I still feel that Man City is a strong club that can even be a strong candidate to win the title again, whether in the EPL or UCL. Even though recently many players have suffered injuries, they can still maintain their positive trend even though it is not as good as before.

And actually for the Man Utd club, if they can return to their best performance then qualifying from the group stage will be quite easy. Bayern and MU will definitely be able to qualify if MU is in the best condition. But it's a shame that MU is currently inconsistent. There are still many things that this club needs to improve. Even their current back line is really worrying.

[X-ray]

I also think so, with performance like now, it is very difficult for Manchester United to qualify from the group stage and even if they go down to the Europa League, they won't necessarily be able to compete fiercely because the performance of the Manchester United team is in a very bad state, different from last season.

I don't have the slightest confidence that Ten Hag can boost Manchester United's performance in the UCL matches against Copenhagen and Galatasary, brands in the Premier League continue to experience defeats, and in reality it is impossible for a team to develop rapidly in a short time, especially for a team like Manchester United which has very down.

I agree with you. Even if it comes down to the UEFA Europa competition, I think a strong candidate who can compete is Sevilla. I have already mentioned that if you look at Sevilla's current performance in Group B, it is very likely that they will go down to the UEFA European League and they will be strong contenders for the title along with Liverpool. United will not provide significant resistance in the European league in the future and as you have said, it is impossible to improve the team's performance in a short time.

The management has expected to replace ten hag with a new coach. The only thing that will be really helpful for manchester united was a miracle. Manchester united will face another disaster if it will not get a miracle. Im sure united will be dropping to the europa league as it will be finished under galatasaray which will finish at the second place. Sevilla was strong in europa league but this is far tougher than people think. Do you forget to add another strong team from the group F?
There will be some clubs to join in europa league soon. Sevilla needs to put more efforts compared to the last season. Everything is still remain so difficult for sevilla as it needs to adapt with the new coach.
Manchester united will stuck in the same place till it will be out from the UCL. I think that management needs to replace him as soon as possible to at least give a chance for MU to won europa league like when it has coached by mourinho.
The special one seems to be a good candidate for united again.

[Slow death]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

I was talking about this in my recent post and I have also seen many critical articles about Manchester United, from what I see, the problem with this team starts with the club's management, which has not given much power to the coaches, because it is not normal that in 6 years they have had many coaches and the results are almost the same, the team has money but keeps spending money making meaningless signings, whenever the transfer window arrives you rarely hear any rumors saying that Manchester United is interested in signing some good striker and when people least expect it, Manchester United appears with news that they have signed a player and when we look at that player we are shocked and with the following question in our heads:

Was there no other better player for them to sign? and the answer is too obvious, they could have hired other better players. I know there are people who might argue that it's not easy being a team coach. But honestly, let's look at Manchester United's attack, who is the greatest player they have that has performed very well against many other teams? they do not have. If we look at this Manchester United squad, what is the difference with the squad from last season and 2 other seasons? there is no big difference

Now, if they have 80% more of the same squad as in previous seasons that couldn't achieve anything, how can they be expected to achieve anything this season? Whenever I see Manchester United playing I keep asking myself the same question: what does the management expect from this squad? Do you want to win the premier league with the same squad? Maybe the management is not interested in achieving anything big like the premier league and the European champions league

[ILuckyGuyI]

Manchester United are hopeless for now. It is easily seen from the way they play each one of their games. Still no progress since the day Galatasaray beat them by 3-2 away in the Champions League. I hope that we can take advantage of their situation once again to get another win in Istanbul.    This would be a very important win for us to reach last 16.

Returning to Manchester United they are still having serious issues in defense and I can't say that they very comfortable with scoring goals in general either. Even their most productive players from last season are playing poorly now. I feel like they will draw with Copenhagen and lose to Galatasaray - Bayern Munich duo again. This would be enough to send them down to the Europa League.

[rendravolt]

I believe in Real Madrid in this year's Champions League, and what they've shown so far indicates that they will go far in this competition, as they always do. They are among the top teams with a potential to win this competition this season but will still be based on their consistency in the league.

Every year Real Madrid is always one of the champion candidates and it is not surprising because they have always been consistent over the last few seasons. They always make it to at least the quarter-finals and most recently last season they were able to advance to the semifinals. The players who inherited the winning mentality from previous veterans will continue to provide resistance in fierce matches and that is why Real Madrid is still the favorite to win the title in this competition. The presence of several talented young players also helps this team mature and they can achieve this if they continue to beat other strong opponents. Can't wait to see Real Madrid can lift this trophy again after the last time it happened in 2021.

[twiki]

Manchester United are hopeless for now. It is easily seen from the way they play each one of their games. Still no progress since the day Galatasaray beat them by 3-2 away in the Champions League. I hope that we can take advantage of their situation once again to get another win in Istanbul.    This would be a very important win for us to reach last 16.

Returning to Manchester United they are still having serious issues in defense and I can't say that they very comfortable with scoring goals in general either. Even their most productive players from last season are playing poorly now. I feel like they will draw with Copenhagen and lose to Galatasaray - Bayern Munich duo again. This would be enough to send them down to the Europa League.

There is still hope for a miracle. Don't give up on Manchester United. Perhaps the team will understand that not only Hug is to blame for such a bad game, but they themselves. then everything will go a little better and I really hope that in the match with Fulham Manchester United will show that they can show a beautiful game.

[Nheer]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

I believe you are talking about Manchester United because they are the only Manchester club that meets your description of boring and inferior. They are really boring team to watch and i put all the blame on the coach for making some certain decisions which have now become costly for them. To make some decisions you need to know what you are doing especially when he concluded that Ronaldo was his problem, I don’t see how the highest goal scorer in your team would be the problem. Ronaldo has left and is doing wel in his new team and it is now clear that Ten Hag is the problem of the team, they don’t play with any kind of rhythm. Their overall performance has been poor and I don’t even think they would make it far in the champions league or any league they are participating in they even got knocked out of the FA cup 2 days back. They need to up their game as soon as possible.

[Joca97]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

[Strongkored]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

If there is a problem in a team, of course, the problem is the whole team, but because it is easier to change a coach than to replace players, it is always the coach who will be more criticized and rumored to be replaced by another because the one who will build a better team is the coach, he is people who will start to think about which players will fit into their squad and according to the strategy they will implement.
Criticism of Ten Hag only shifted slightly from that usually aimed at his player Harry Maguire.
However, I agree that players often don't give 100%, one example is how bad their forward players are this season, plus with a weak defense, so this is a complete combination to show how weak United is this season and the Champions League will be difficult for them to beat even though they can be said to be being in a group that is not too difficult since their draw is one of the teams that is predicted to pass the group phase but looking at the current situation they need to work harder to make that happen.

[Blitzboy]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

The way Manchester United has been playing recently has discouraged me as well. The team seems tired, and I think the coach is to blame for this. I've noticed that there has been poor decision-making on the field, and other decisions, like benching Ronaldo, were perplexing. I've seen Ronaldo flourish in his new squad, which begs the question of Manchester United's coaching choices. There is significant room for improvement in their Champions League adventure. Their gameplay's disarray and lack of rhythm has affected their performance in several competitions, I've noticed. I had great expectations for the team this season, therefore it hurts.

[Zoomic]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

There is always a problem or misunderstanding between a coach and the fans regarding the players he selects for every match, especially when the team eventually losses the match.
See what I meant;
Every fan knows their favourite players which happen to be the most quality players of the club. The coach is also aware that those players are the best. The fans then will always want to these quality players to start every match. Meanwhile the coach will have to balance the team by using the top performance in the training and the most disciplined players. The quality players tend not to be disciplined and sometimes don't perform well in the training. When the coach drops these quality players and eventually losses the match, every blame goes to the coach.
This is the type of problems that the coaches face, especially Ten Hang who value respect and discipline more than winning matches.

[Luzin]

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

He hopes to bring Dutch football culture from Ajax to Man United. But all failed, the strategy is difficult to implement in the EPL. Fast game play and a lot of tight pressure from players make it difficult for players to carry out Ten Hag's instructions. Moreover, there are not many Man United players who can hold the ball for long. After panicking, they finally made a long pass forward. Whereas up front no player is strong enough to receive the ball as a bounce. In addition, the support of midfielders is also often late. I think Man United will only go through in the group phase and get knocked back into the Europa League.

[Davian144]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

If you are annoyed with Manchester United's performance this season in the Champions League and Premier League, I think you are the wrong fan of that team. And actually Manchester United is not affected by their own fame this season, but Manchester United is only affected by their own way of playing and by several players who are still injured. So the coach must be able to make different strategies to improve Manchester United's performance in order to be better this season because they have experienced a series of bad performances at the moment.

[Hirose UK]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

The biggest mistake in the Manchester United squad was in the hands of Ten Hag as coach and so far there hasn't really been any surprising breakthroughs shown by Manchester United while being coached by Ten Hag.
Initially he threw away several old players by replacing young players but it was all in vain and Manchester United is now feeling the financial loss.

Several problems arose and there was little conflict between the players, but all of this would actually worsen the atmosphere and also affect the team performance when competing because it would definitely cause misunderstandings between the players.

Those who are pro Manchester United say that currently there is good development but I myself don't see it, there is any development shown by Manchester United.
If they only play against weak teams then I believe they can win but this is UCL match and there are strong teams in each group.

[mv1986]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

If you are annoyed with Manchester United's performance this season in the Champions League and Premier League, I think you are the wrong fan of that team. And actually Manchester United is not affected by their own fame this season, but Manchester United is only affected by their own way of playing and by several players who are still injured. So the coach must be able to make different strategies to improve Manchester United's performance in order to be better this season because they have experienced a series of bad performances at the moment.

A fan who doesn't get emotional when his team plays bad or does not have any success is not a real fan to me. What's wrong about being upset when the team you support is underperforming all the time. In my opinion this is normal and doesn't make him a "wrong fan", but quite the opposite, which is a true fan.

I can understand every fan who is upset given that Manchester United had a great chance against Copenhagen and Galatasaray to make this a wonderful season and look forward to some great games in the knockout stages of the Champions League, but instead they are losing games that nobody saw coming. I am surprised, I can tell you that I thought this group is Bayern Munich and Manchester United, but it's looking dark for the Red Devils.

[masulum]

A fan who doesn't get emotional when his team plays bad or does not have any success is not a real fan to me. What's wrong about being upset when the team you support is underperforming all the time. In my opinion this is normal and doesn't make him a "wrong fan", but quite the opposite, which is a true fan.

how can we not be upset when seeing our favorite team become mediocre for 10 years? Just imagine, we support the club either directly or only via TV, but we feel the same atmosphere of victory and defeat. We support the team not only because of the big name, but the community and the same emotions. If we are not angry, maybe our emotions with the club are still not strong. However, MU has been asleep for a long time, at worst Milan has already given the Scudetto, while MU, in UCL, UEL and EPL, they have not shown anything for their supporters. While supporters need a trophy.

[JeffBrad12]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

At least there must not be another garbage mount to come. Ten Hag, the coach of the team, has made some notable player acquisitions such as Reguilon from Tottenham, Mount from Chelsea, and Onana from Inter Milan. However, these players have not been performing up to expectations, particularly Mount. This guy is useless player now. EPL is far tougher compared with ajax's league. It doesn't even make sense to implement the same strategy used by when he was coaching ajax to the manchester united.
I think that ten hag must take a look at how ange was able making totenham far better than previous season. Ange's performance in this season is far better compared with ten hag. Ten hag needs to take a look at how ange was changing totenham to be one of capable club in EPL this time.

I have hread that MU has denied rumor to replace ten hag and the club is still trying to keep him much longer than i thought. This is a disaster for whole of MU fans. They were yelling ten hag to leave from the club.
Another bad result will come again. The manchester united fans need to accept the fact if united becomes a mediocre team this time.

[indah rezqi]

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He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

The biggest mistake in the Manchester United squad was in the hands of Ten Hag as coach and so far there hasn't really been any surprising breakthroughs shown by Manchester United while being coached by Ten Hag.
Initially he threw away several old players by replacing young players but it was all in vain and Manchester United is now feeling the financial loss.

Several problems arose and there was little conflict between the players, but all of this would actually worsen the atmosphere and also affect the team performance when competing because it would definitely cause misunderstandings between the players.

Those who are pro Manchester United say that currently there is good development but I myself don't see it, there is any development shown by Manchester United.
If they only play against weak teams then I believe they can win but this is UCL match and there are strong teams in each group.

Manchester United failed to manage the internal conflict that occurred and seemed to let it drag on until today, this has been the main factor in their drastic decline in performance. Furthermore, everyone involved in the club does not seem to be walking in one direction, the vision and mission are aligned with the same goal of building United towards its return to glory. Other problems such as player injuries complement the strategic errors implemented by Ten Hag, in the end the setback that is occurring now is inevitable.

There are a lot of issues going on behind the scenes, and I think the problems at hand are more complex than we see. I think some of us still remember Mourinho controversial statement in 2019, which when viewed in light of United current situation is very relevant. Their steps in the UCL will really determine Ten Hag future, however The Red Devils squad must win to get out of this big pressure.