UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[Docnaster]

Its ok with the data collect by Opta analitycs, but i think Manchester United is ended up going to the round of 16, they only need to win on Istanbul and take a draw in Old trafford against a qualified Bayern, is complicated yes, b ut i can see their having luck and going into 16 round.

According to calculations, it is true that Ten Hag squad must win over Galatasaray in the second leg, and in any case must be able to hold Bayern to a draw at Old Trafford. But we have seen how United lost at Old Trafford in the first leg against Galatasaray and also lost to Bayern, I realize that this is a very decisive match for the club and for the coach.

United fate actually really depends on Bayern and in their own hands, because if there is a surprise in the match between Bayern and Copenhagen then United fate will be very unfortunate even if they can beat Galatasaray. In short, the fate of the Ten Hag squad really depends on the other teams in Group A.

I want the Red Devils to advance to the last 16, but with their current performance and statistics it seems difficult to achieve this. Seeing their match against Luton, Maguire and his friends were only able to win narrowly, this is what I mean they seem to be having difficulties.

Winning against Galatasaray in their next game in the UEFA Champions League and drawing against Bayern Munich in their last game of the of the group stage is mathematically not enough to take Manchester United to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition.
Manchester United needs to win their next two games against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich to stand a chance of progressing to the next round which I think will be difficult for the English Premier League club to achieve

[len01]

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Even though we do not see too many problems for Real Madrid, even though they do not have the best-attacking setup right now, I think we are going to see some problems for them in the future. Especially when they are going to face bigger opponents. When they are going to face Manchester City Bayern Munich and other opponents like that, they are definitely going to feel the need for a great striker. That's why I was honestly a little amazed to see that Real Madrid did not do almost anything to get Harry Kane. Of course, the money that Keram was asking for was too much. But they definitely could have made an effort.

I really understand what you are saying but I am not really worried about Real Madrid who will compete against other big teams like Man City and Munich because for me Real madrid  ready and strong enough to compete competitively with those big teams even seeing readiness of Bellingham and Vinicius has made it very clear that Madrid mainstay player will be able to make his best contribution and maybe if there is still time to bring in the best striker I think there will be surprise that we will see in january.

[JeffBrad12]

Its ok with the data collect by Opta analitycs, but i think Manchester United is ended up going to the round of 16, they only need to win on Istanbul and take a draw in Old trafford against a qualified Bayern, is complicated yes, b ut i can see their having luck and going into 16 round.

Losing at old trafford was enough to proving that if beating galatasaray will not be as easy as you said. Manchester united is always struggling when it was playing at away. Hojlund is good in UCL but he is so damn bad in EPL.
Manchester united needs to work even harder to make sure the club will able to perform even better. The chance of MU to pass the group stage will be determined from the result gainst galatasaray.

Im quite skeptical with the result. Let's see.

Galatasaray is still remain my favorite.

[tygeade]

According to Opta Analyst, currently Manchester City remains the favorite to win the Champions League with a 32.29% chance, followed by Bayern Munich and Real Madrid below with quite a large margin. In fact, it is natural to favor Manchester City to win the Champions League title again this season considering that they still have the same squad depth as before and Pep Guardiola even continues to update his squad by recruiting several other talented players.

On the other hand, Bayern Munich is indeed a bit of a threat after they managed to acquire the services of Harry Kane since last summer and this is proven by the productivity of goals scored by the English player. However, what is quite surprising is that Real Madrid is still included in the top 3, even though they don't have a great striker for scoring goals and mostly they only rely on the magic of Jude Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo to score goals. Apart from all that, if Manchester City can win this title back to back it will be a good record. Even if Bayern Munich wins this title, it will certainly be a good record after the last time they won it in 2020 and it would also be the first champions league title for Harry Kane. However, if Real Madrid can win the title this season without a mature striker, of course that will be the result obtained thanks to the winning mentality they have had so far.

This doesn't really strike me as a good analysis. I mean I get that data has started to play a big role in sports, we are in the whole baseball Oakland A's world nowadays and data is the king, I agree to that and all. But this one doesn't look that great.

Because at the end of the day we are going to see just two teams facing at quarter finals, those two teams will play two games, and the winner will go to semi finals, that's how that knockout stage works. Which means that technically speaking City could do as well as they possibly could, and still end up losing. We should realize that football is not that simple and we could end up with a loss that could be dangerous in the end and may have to get knocked out if you play one bad game.

[skarais]

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This doesn't really strike me as a good analysis. I mean I get that data has started to play a big role in sports, we are in the whole baseball Oakland A's world nowadays and data is the king, I agree to that and all. But this one doesn't look that great.

Because at the end of the day we are going to see just two teams facing at quarter finals, those two teams will play two games, and the winner will go to semi finals, that's how that knockout stage works. Which means that technically speaking City could do as well as they possibly could, and still end up losing. We should realize that football is not that simple and we could end up with a loss that could be dangerous in the end and may have to get knocked out if you play one bad game.

Manchester City is always ahead in probability due to the depth of its squad and that is undeniable. I'm not completely sure that this season Manchester City can defend the Champions League title, but at least they can be expected to do so because of the quality of players they have.

Several other teams are also not too bad to be expected to reach the final and that is like Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid. It all still really depends on how the draw will turn out if all the teams pass from one stage to the next, so it could be right or it could be wrong. Data is important, but certainty is never guaranteed.

[shogun47]

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This doesn't really strike me as a good analysis. I mean I get that data has started to play a big role in sports, we are in the whole baseball Oakland A's world nowadays and data is the king, I agree to that and all. But this one doesn't look that great.

Because at the end of the day we are going to see just two teams facing at quarter finals, those two teams will play two games, and the winner will go to semi finals, that's how that knockout stage works. Which means that technically speaking City could do as well as they possibly could, and still end up losing. We should realize that football is not that simple and we could end up with a loss that could be dangerous in the end and may have to get knocked out if you play one bad game.

Manchester City is always ahead in probability due to the depth of its squad and that is undeniable. I'm not completely sure that this season Manchester City can defend the Champions League title, but at least they can be expected to do so because of the quality of players they have.

Several other teams are also not too bad to be expected to reach the final and that is like Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid. It all still really depends on how the draw will turn out if all the teams pass from one stage to the next, so it could be right or it could be wrong. Data is important, but certainty is never guaranteed.

Bayern Munich made a big step into the right direction due to Harry Kane. That player gives them a lot more versatility and they know they have someone in the front who can take full responsibility in important situations like penalties and others. I still think that Manchester City would be the favorite against Bayern Munich although not by a lot. Manchester City is also showing weaknesses in their defense as could be seen in a couple of games now. Their game against Chelsea was really not that great.

This will be an exciting Champions League season as a couple of teams have a good chance to win this competition.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Manchester City won the Champions League title in the last season and obviously, that's a good reason to say they are the favorite team for the tournament even during this the season but the fact about Manchester City and Pep Guardiola is they lost some power. Manchester City sold some players and they couldn't spend money and buy better players like other teams did during the summer and that's why I think other teams like Bayern Munich will have more chance of this.

Yes, Man City is one of the favorite teams to win UCL trophy because they are the winner in the last year. But they are no longer the Man City as in the last season. Man City becomes weaker if we compare their strength in the previous season. That's why Man City experienced some losses lately, they have a weak area in their lineup. It is true that some players of Man City moved to other teams. They ruined the expectation of Man City management.

But defeat in the Local League did not have much impact on their performance in the Champions League and Manchester City managed to record a perfect win in the Champions League so far, they also have high goal productivity with 12 goals in 4 matches this means that Man City remains a threat to opponents, I predict that at least Manchester City can reach the semifinals. Some players did move to other teams but they have also found worthy replacements and most importantly their attack line is still as strong as last season, problems may come if Haaland is injured.

By the way I just checked the betting markets for the Champions League winners and the bookies still have Manchester City at the top Bayern Munich is in 2nd place and Real Madrid is in 3rd place, the bookies may be wrong but at least we can see the predictions. what do you think, do you agree that Manchester City will win again this season? or will Harry Kane get his first Champions League trophy   

[Richbased]

I don't think Manchester City can win the Champions League this season because they aren't performing like they did last season and they have sold some of their players to other clubs, which I believe causes them to play weak games. I believe Bayern Munich or Real Madrid will win the Champions League because only they have the talent of the competition and Real Madrid failed to defeat Manchester City to qualify for the Champions League final last season, I believe that if they meet in the round of 16, Real Madrid will defeat them because they are not performing as well as they did last season, but I believe this is due to De Bruyne's injury, as Haaland has not scored many goals in the league and has only received penalties since De Bruyne's injury.

Well, it's too early to determine who wins the champions league for now because their might be drama of teams we never expected to be in the finals but however I don't think there is anything wrong in Manchester city's form so far because for them to play without an important midfield like Kelvin De bryune and still win matches even topping both the premier league and their group in the champions league it's really not easy at all.

Hinting Real Madrid and Bayern Munich as possible champions league winner this season is not bad due to the fact that these clubs have good records in the champions league but you have to understand that changes I meant to happen as it might even be a team no one expected that will win the trophy however, let's watch and see how the season goes.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Group E can still be considered complicated because the first 3 teams are very close to each other at the moment. The point difference between them is only 1. Celtic have given up early which I'm not very surprised at.    It was really difficult for them to stand still against these challenging competitors in the end. They can be the king in Scotland but not here.

Now I'm just wondering whether Atletico Madrid would mess things up once again just as it happened in the last 2 years - if I'm not mistaken about that.

They are going to gace Feyenoord (A) and Lazio (H). Both of them are tough games though but I hope to see Atletico Madrid collecting at least 4 points anyway.

[ShowOff]

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But defeat in the Local League did not have much impact on their performance in the Champions League and Manchester City managed to record a perfect win in the Champions League so far, they also have high goal productivity with 12 goals in 4 matches this means that Man City remains a threat to opponents, I predict that at least Manchester City can reach the semifinals. Some players did move to other teams but they have also found worthy replacements and most importantly their attack line is still as strong as last season, problems may come if Haaland is injured.

By the way I just checked the betting markets for the Champions League winners and the bookies still have Manchester City at the top Bayern Munich is in 2nd place and Real Madrid is in 3rd place, the bookies may be wrong but at least we can see the predictions. what do you think, do you agree that Manchester City will win again this season? or will Harry Kane get his first Champions League trophy   

Manchester City is too convincing for the bookies, but I believe they have clear reasons why Manchester City deserves to be the main favorite to win the Champions League title this season. Team performance, squad depth, manager capacity and individual player quality can be taken into consideration as to why Manchester City is superior to other teams, but all of this is just a matter of probability which cannot be 100% trusted.

Of course, we cannot be sure who will qualify for the final because the group stage is not over yet. Some teams that stand out are worthy of being favorites, but regarding betting, I really believe that all teams are at risk of failing to win, so bettors must consider the risks wisely.

[Coyster]

Of course, we cannot be sure who will qualify for the final because the group stage is not over yet. Some teams that stand out are worthy of being favorites, but regarding betting, I really believe that all teams are at risk of failing to win, so bettors must consider the risks wisely.

It is definitely not possible to be sure who will win the CL, if it was possible we'd all send the bookies parking, lol. The thing is, the strongest teams would be amongst the favorites to win the trophy and thus they'd get a lower odd. City are prolly the strongest of the lot, and i would not bet against them retaining their CL trophy, i can't see any team stopping them.

That being said, it is still a prediction and i could be completely wrong, that's why gamblers are always advised to gamble responsibly, so you don't gamble with what you cannot afford to lose.

[baeva]

Not only for AC Milan, but for all clubs the last 2 matches will be a life and death match, the article all clubs still have a chance to be able to qualify with a record in the last 2 matches they can achieve very positive results or they managed to collect 6 points. with a situation like this, then there is no other choice for all clubs to play all out in their matches.
It is not wrong when this group is said to be the hell group this season, seeing their very tight competition and beating each other of course this makes us curious who 2 clubs will be able to secure tickets to go to the round of 16.

The four teams in Group F have almost the same quality, so it's natural that the competition is very tight and up to now (two matches remaining) the four teams have almost the same chance of getting through to the know out round, only Dortmund are slightly favored because so far they have collected 7 points, Dortmund only need 1 more win to ensure they qualify for the round of 16.

And for AC Miln, PSG and Newcastle have the same possibility of qualifying, and this is really very difficult to predict because all of these teams have equal quality.

Yes Borussia Dortmund do have a greater chance of qualifying, but that does not mean it will be a guarantee for them to be able to really qualify. Other clubs will try their best to thwart anyone who has a chance of qualifying to win.
Speaking of Newcastle, they are the youngest club in this grup, or you could say they are newcomers to the Chmpions League, but I am impressed because even though their experience is not as good as the other 3 clubs, they can provide a strong competition. Although now they are the club that is at the bottom of the table.

It's even hard for me to guess which team will drop out of the tournament altogether and which team will go to the Europa League. At the moment it looks like any of the 4 teams in Group F could end up in 3rd or 4th place. None of the teams even have an uninterrupted positive momentum, each team has already suffered a defeat

I don't think it's just you that finds it difficult to predict who will qualify, who will go to the Europa League and who will have to go home early, everyone will have the same thoughts about predicting this group.
Who can answer is themselves, I mean in the last 2 matches who will show something extraordinary, they will be able to qualify from this difficult group. Oh yes, also don't forget about luck, because it could be a factor that will determine their fate whether they can qualify or even be eliminated.

While I used to think that luck in football was something mediocre and could even be categorised as an excuse, looking at this group now I realise that someone really could just get lucky at some point. So far, looking from the outside, AC Milan look weak, I infer from their performance in both the Champions League and in their league. Let's see how they perform, I think by their performance it will be more or less clear what can happen in the group with the others

[Roseline492]

I don't think Manchester City can win the Champions League this season because they aren't performing like they did last season and they have sold some of their players to other clubs, which I believe causes them to play weak games. I believe Bayern Munich or Real Madrid will win the Champions League because only they have the talent of the competition and Real Madrid failed to defeat Manchester City to qualify for the Champions League final last season, I believe that if they meet in the round of 16, Real Madrid will defeat them because they are not performing as well as they did last season, but I believe this is due to De Bruyne's injury, as Haaland has not scored many goals in the league and has only received penalties since De Bruyne's injury.

Yeah even me too I don't think Manchester City stands a chance to win this season champions League because they seem to have a long way to go on this season champion league but just like you said l'm suspecting Bayern Munich to win these season champions League because they have all it takes to win, and even considering there performance this season it has been so perfect by wining consistently.

So is really obvious that Bayern Munich may likely win the league because for now they have more good record than Manchester City, but however I believe that Manchester City is focusing more on the premier League because they are leading on there table.

[Mame89]

Losing at old trafford was enough to proving that if beating galatasaray will not be as easy as you said. Manchester united is always struggling when it was playing at away. Hojlund is good in UCL but he is so damn bad in EPL.
Manchester united needs to work even harder to make sure the club will able to perform even better. The chance of MU to pass the group stage will be determined from the result gainst galatasaray.

If you look at Man United away, it is indeed difficult to win, especially since their current condition is under pressure, of course this is something difficult for Man United. Because we know that Man United is currently mentally down, especially when facing Galatsaray at their home ground, it is certainly difficult to steal three points there, not to mention that many Man United players are injured. But anything can happen in football, especially since this match will be played at the end of the month, of course, with such a long preparation, Man United should be able to give a surprise in this match. This victory is mandatory for Man United, at least they still have hope of playing in the European league.

Im quite skeptical with the result. Let's see.

Galatasaray is still remain my favorite.

My heart says Man United can beat Galatasaray, but to bet I don't dare to bet on Man United, in this match I skip betting.

[aylabadia05]

My heart says Man United can beat Galatasaray, but to bet I don't dare to bet on Man United, in this match I skip betting.

If we ask who is the favorite, they prefer Galasatasaray because Manchester United is a team that is not sure to win because of the series of results they have obtained. For things like that I don't care because after all trying to convince that Manchester United is still very worthy of qualifying is not believed.

Remember. The term Fergie time is still in Manchester United's DNA. This was seen when Manchester United beat Fulham in the final minutes of the match.
Now each player's focus is on the national team because of the international break.

[LGD2Business]

My heart says Man United can beat Galatasaray, but to bet I don't dare to bet on Man United, in this match I skip betting.

If we ask who is the favorite, they prefer Galasatasaray because Manchester United is a team that is not sure to win because of the series of results they have obtained. For things like that I don't care because after all trying to convince that Manchester United is still very worthy of qualifying is not believed.

Remember. The term Fergie time is still in Manchester United's DNA. This was seen when Manchester United beat Fulham in the final minutes of the match.
Now each player's focus is on the national team because of the international break.

This match will be played on November 29, there are still 15 days left. Anything can happen at that time, new injuries, players returning from the national team tired, etc. There are many factors. Even if we assume that everyone is good and both teams have full squads, we must first look at the odds given by the betting companies.
There is a possibility that Galatasaray will make a surprise, but at what rate? Is it worth taking this risk? Maybe Manchester United will recover. Galatasaray started to decline in the last 2 matches. They played well against Bayern but couldn't finish. They officially dissolved against Hatayspor. This national team break could be good for them. Again, if there was a league match this week, the crisis could have escalated in Galatasaray, but the break saved them.
Manchester United are behind in the Premier League, they want to continue and do something in the Champions League. Even a draw from this match would be a bad result for Manchester United. There is a pressure that comes with having to win. As I said, we need to see both the odds and the lineups before betting on this match. It's too early to talk about this game.

[CLS63]

Group F is still open to every kind of surprise. Even the last placed team can finish as leader. I mean Newcastle by saying that. Because Milan were also doing really bad by not scoring a single goal but this PSG win made them start to believe in for last 16 stage. PSG are still not trustworthy at all.

Because the inconsistencies in their performance continues. They are quite dependent on Mbappe's score contribution I'm afraid. I don't see them playing good very often when Mbappe doesn't perform strikingly well. I don't know if PSG can make it to next stage by playing like this. 

[JeffBrad12]

Group F is still open to every kind of surprise. Even the last placed team can finish as leader. I mean Newcastle by saying that. Because Milan were also doing really bad by not scoring a single goal but this PSG win made them start to believe in for last 16 stage. PSG are still not trustworthy at all.

Because the inconsistencies in their performance continues. They are quite dependent on Mbappe's score contribution I'm afraid. I don't see them playing good very often when Mbappe doesn't perform strikingly well. I don't know if PSG can make it to next stage by playing like this. 

As long as newcastle know how to prevent mbappe and i think PSG may also lose a chance to be qualified for thelast 16. Anyone is in curiosity to know which club that will be qualified for the last 16. Any clubs in the group have the same chance to be qualified but this totally depends on the how bad or good their performance are. Newcastle and acmilan became the teams with lowest chances to be qualified for the last 16. I think that if anyone is also trying to bet on these matches with a lot of doubtness. It's caused by any clubs in this group were equal. It's pretty hard to know which team that may go to the last 16. Any surprises can come from newcastle and acmilan.
I would rather than pick save bet like double chance in these matches. The result is very hard to predict at this moment as any clubs have same chances.

[Phoenix Anka]

Group F is still open to every kind of surprise. Even the last placed team can finish as leader. I mean Newcastle by saying that. Because Milan were also doing really bad by not scoring a single goal but this PSG win made them start to believe in for last 16 stage. PSG are still not trustworthy at all.

Because the inconsistencies in their performance continues. They are quite dependent on Mbappe's score contribution I'm afraid. I don't see them playing good very often when Mbappe doesn't perform strikingly well. I don't know if PSG can make it to next stage by playing like this. 

Dependence on one player harms every team, and this is a situation that harms PSG as well. If Mbappe is on his day, they play very well, but if he plays badly, the player options that will make an extra contribution to the team are limited. The possibility of each team becoming the leader in Group F continues. If PSG is lucky, they will come out top of the group.

[ancafe]

I agree that this year there isn't this one team that everybody believes will win the Champions League. Manchester City is always a favorite, but compared to last season they are not playing as perfectly. Real Madrid has very strong games, but sometimes also underperform. It's difficult to compare teams based on their performances in the domestic leagues, but Inter Milan is doing very well and could once again make it into the final and perhaps win it this year. Bayern Munich is erratic and some of the other big favorites, too.

An impressive performance in the domestic league may not necessarily provide good results in the Champions League because the two competitions are very different. It will be very difficult to predict which team will emerge as champions in the Champions League because the competition has only just started in the group phase and there are other big matches that they have to go through after the group stage ends. Inter Milan are having a good season in Serie A, but in the Champions League they may not necessarily be able to reach the final because many other teams are quite strong this season with equal quality players in all positions.

If I could choose then I would like to see Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City playing in the final because the three teams have evenly distributed players in the squad. So the opportunities for these three teams will be much greater than for other clubs and I also see that their performance in the group phase is still quite strong even though the opponents they face are a little easier.