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November 14, 2023, 04:26:24 PM
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According to Opta Analyst, currently Manchester City remains the favorite to win the Champions League with a 32.29% chance, followed by Bayern Munich and Real Madrid below with quite a large margin. In fact, it is natural to favor Manchester City to win the Champions League title again this season considering that they still have the same squad depth as before and Pep Guardiola even continues to update his squad by recruiting several other talented players.

On the other hand, Bayern Munich is indeed a bit of a threat after they managed to acquire the services of Harry Kane since last summer and this is proven by the productivity of goals scored by the English player. However, what is quite surprising is that Real Madrid is still included in the top 3, even though they don't have a great striker for scoring goals and mostly they only rely on the magic of Jude Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo to score goals. Apart from all that, if Manchester City can win this title back to back it will be a good record. Even if Bayern Munich wins this title, it will certainly be a good record after the last time they won it in 2020 and it would also be the first champions league title for Harry Kane. However, if Real Madrid can win the title this season without a mature striker, of course that will be the result obtained thanks to the winning mentality they have had so far.

I agree with everything you said, but why are you surprised by Real's third place? Real Madrid does have one obvious weakness in the form of the lack of a top striker, but this weakness is only relative to Bayern and City whose lineups are close to ideal. If we consider other teams as contenders for the top 3, then they are all much worse. Napoli? Inter? PSG? Arsenal? This is not the level of Real Madrid and I’m not surprised that they are rated 2-3 times worse, it’s just logical.

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November 14, 2023, 04:39:54 PM
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It would be very interesting to see this confrontation. A confrontation between truly strong teams. But I think that this is possible, since people come from different groups and we need to get to this point and not get into trouble. Nowadays games have become so unpredictable that it is difficult to predict anything.
I see that predictions are still difficult only for group F, while for the other groups it is getting easier to make predictions about who will qualify and who will not. Everyone can see how far apart the strong teams in the group that I mean are, because a mistake by one team can make them fail to qualify and be a big benefit for the other teams to be able to qualify more easily. Meanwhile, for the other groups, it is not too complicated to make predictions about which team will advance to the next round.
With a difference of only 1 point from 1 team to another, and with 2 matches remaining, all teams still have a chance to get rid of each other. I don't know if after the 5th match the situation will change or get more complicated, I mean if Newcastle lose in the 5th match against Paris Saint Germain, it will make the situation easier to predict, otherwise if Newcastle win, then it will be more complicated and who will qualify will be more difficult to predict. The same goes for the match between Borussia Dorrmund vs AC Milan.
As for me, the result of the confrontation between Borussia Dorrmunt and Milan will end in victory for Borussia. Based on the results of their last game, Borussia had more chances to win and was more progressive. Milan, in their own style, played sluggishly and unconfidently. Let's hope that the next match will give us more decisions regarding further forecasts in the standings. Well, of course it will put all the dots)))
Dortmund seems even more favorite in this match. The main reason for Dortmund's advantage is that they will be fielding their strongest lineup, whereas AC Milan will be without key players such as Leao due to injury. Pioli is also under pressure since the performance of acmilan in serie is also very bad. Winning against acmilan is the golden key for dortmund to qualify for the last 16. Dortmund needs to push its club beyond the limit to beat acmilan. I can't really sure milan will able to beat dortmund with the current performance.
It seems that Acmilan is making a concerted effort to exceed its previous boundaries, especially considering that this may be their final opportunity to secure a place in the UCL. Losing against dortmund will make milan to go out from the UCL or drop to th eeuropa league.

Dortmund is very strong and it's also far stronger than newcastle. Bookies were giving 2.00 for milan compared with 3.65 for dortmund. Seeing how acmilan consistently losing against weak club made me feel milan will have no chance pass the group stage.
Dortmund just need to win and it will secure a spot into the last 16.

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November 14, 2023, 04:43:45 PM
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For me no team asides of Manchester City and Real Madrid can have a chance right now to become the champion of the season of UCL, the 15% for Bayern can be accurate but also overstimate, because they havent played against any good team until now. And this Bayern is going from less to more, but lets see how they do against big teams, against a weak Man utd they strugled a lot.

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November 14, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
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Despite getting an unexpected loss against Lens Arsenal are still going on nicely in the group stage. I assume we can say that they have qualified for 1/8 finals already. They would probably make it there as 1st as well. I really liked their performance against Sevilla the last time. They were in full control. However this might not be a very healthy example to take into consideration to believe in Arsenal for next stages.

They have shown some inconsistencies during the season. If we see that in bigger matches in the Champions League then they could say goodbye early to the tournament.
Currently with their current points they have so far, Arsenal has qualified amongst it's group members for the next stage of the champions league, they are at the top of their group with nine points even with their inconsistency so far, although they have not lost one of their UCL games, they still remain at the top and their next match isn't a determinant for their qualification.

Making it pass the round of sixteen better known as the knock out stage is something we can't really determine now , although they have been really good with their performance so far but we are yet to have the complete teams qualify so who they will be meeting at this stage is yet uncertain and it's important to know that at this stage everyone plays their very best so the competition is much more than bit was at the group stage which will require more efforts than they did at the group stage so let wait till the draws for the round of sixteen is out then we could better determine if they could make it pass that stage.
Arsenal has lost one UCL game. They played against Lens on the third of October, and it was a good performance for Arsenal that they were unlucky that they have to concede a goal during the end of the match. Arsenal has 9 points as you mentioned and is leading with 4 points. Followed by PSV 5points, Lens 5 point and lastly Sevilla 2 points. Arsenal is to play Lens again at emirate stadium on the 29th of November.

It would be a very tough game because both team wants to win the game. Lens will struggle to see if they can get the three points again so that they can top PSV. While Arsenal wants to maintain their kingship on the group and to be of a safer and higher chances to qualify for the next group stage. The game might be difficult for Arsenal because most of their players are facing injuries and these players are mostly their key players, perhaps before the matchday one or two may have returned from injury.

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November 14, 2023, 04:59:34 PM
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Despite getting an unexpected loss against Lens Arsenal are still going on nicely in the group stage. I assume we can say that they have qualified for 1/8 finals already. They would probably make it there as 1st as well. I really liked their performance against Sevilla the last time. They were in full control. However this might not be a very healthy example to take into consideration to believe in Arsenal for next stages.

They have shown some inconsistencies during the season. If we see that in bigger matches in the Champions League then they could say goodbye early to the tournament.
Arsenal will definitely end up at the top of their group, I do not think that will change anytime soon. Some teams are good enough already, that is a very boring situation, like there are 10 clubs that could win UCL and nobody else, that's it, those 10 clubs or nobody else. Even with drawing luck, the best you can do is go to finals, otherwise you are not going to be good at all. I understand that we are talking about a situation that is a little bit different, and that could be the most important thing.

I believe that the best thing to do right now would be making sure that we bet on those clubs to keep on winning, eventually they will face each other, and then when the bets start to be a lot more fun, but until that moment we are going to keep seeing these teams not being all that low, Lens type of loss situations rarely happens, you could have 5 wins and 1 loss and the bets will be still profitable for us in the end when it's like that.
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November 14, 2023, 05:45:54 PM
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The game might be difficult for Arsenal because most of their players are facing injuries and these players are mostly their key players, perhaps before the matchday one or two may have returned from injury.

Arsenal coach has to hope that none of his players who will be on international duty don't get injured because that will be more trouble for him and against what he is hoping to achieve this season with the club. In their next game against Lens, they have the better advantage winning since they will playing at home and always play well at home. Arsenal are desperately in need of new signings, they will have the January window to make that reinforcement to the team because if they qualify for the next stage of the competition, it will be a tougher test.

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November 14, 2023, 05:48:25 PM
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Your opinion is reasonable, Manchester United will not be able to escape from the group phase because the remaining matches are against strong teams such as Galatasaray and Bayern Munich. Maybe they should focus on qualifying for the European league by pursuing third place in the group considering that Manchester United's decline is not only a strategic problem but many injured players will put Erik Tag in big trouble.

But I still believe that MU's recent downturn is due to Erik Tag Hag's own fault for not being able to discipline his players, and he doesn't dare to bench players who really don't work, they continue to be played even though these players never improve every time they are played. I hope that when we play against Galatasaray, Erik Tag Hag will have the courage to take a firm stance towards the players and can formulate a good strategy, because victory over Galatasaray is important for increasing the players' self-confidence.
Manchester United faces a heavy task to go through from the group stage after defeat to Copenhagen in the UCL. They have both Galatasaray away and at Old Trafford, Bayern Munich, now they won’t just hope on their results but also results fro other fixtures in the group, and it’s quite worrisome. I feel they’ve got lots of work to do to even secure Europa spot.

 ETH came with a very nice philosophy at first but what went wrong this season, where is the discipline? Where are the morals, they need a win at Galatasaray and should go all out for it, ETH should take charge of this team lest he capsides, well he still got 2 tough chances of making the next round and it's going to be very difficult to achieve however nothing is impossible in football.

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November 14, 2023, 06:05:21 PM
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For me no team asides of Manchester City and Real Madrid can have a chance right now to become the champion of the season of UCL, the 15% for Bayern can be accurate but also overstimate, because they havent played against any good team until now. And this Bayern is going from less to more, but lets see how they do against big teams, against a weak Man utd they strugled a lot.

Likewise with Real Madrid, the fact is that the team that was their opponent in the group phase was not as strong as the previous season. Napoli, not in a stable condition. but in fact, they were able to provide quite interesting resistance to Real Madrid. I have not seen Madrid against a strong and consistent team. only Barcelona, ​​and even then in the domestic league with the absence of several of Xavi Hernandez's squad, it is possible that in the round of 16 Madrid will be met with one of the strong teams.

Not much different from Man City, but their record is still one of the best teams and is even the favorite to defend their title in this competition. City, like Madrid, will qualify to become leaders in their respective groups in this group phase.

Well, now we talk about Bayern Munich. It could be said that Thomas Tuchel's squad still has problems in its squad. Tuchel must strengthen his defense line by closing the gaps that they lack. Likewise with the main goalkeeper, who has not yet fully returned to playing at his best. however, don't get me wrong. This German team is capable and worthy of providing resistance to Madrid and Manchester City. Yep, after all, Kane's presence in the current Bayern squad has made a big contribution. Kane, is not only a goal machine for them. However, he often also takes part in providing assists and space for his teammates. problem, Tuchel just needs to perfect the system he implements. The rest, we'll just see as this team plays match after match.

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November 14, 2023, 06:10:16 PM
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Arsenal has lost one UCL game. They played against Lens on the third of October, and it was a good performance for Arsenal that they were unlucky that they have to concede a goal during the end of the match. Arsenal has 9 points as you mentioned and is leading with 4 points. Followed by PSV 5points, Lens 5 point and lastly Sevilla 2 points. Arsenal is to play Lens again at emirate stadium on the 29th of November.

It would be a very tough game because both team wants to win the game. Lens will struggle to see if they can get the three points again so that they can top PSV. While Arsenal wants to maintain their kingship on the group and to be of a safer and higher chances to qualify for the next group stage. The game might be difficult for Arsenal because most of their players are facing injuries and these players are mostly their key players, perhaps before the matchday one or two may have returned from injury.

I think Arsenal will be up to something dramatic this champions league season, I mean for a club that has been absent in the champions league for about 6 years now they will want to play with all their energy even if they didn't win the UCL but at least they're gonna make a huge impact in the UCL.

Arsenal have been doing well in their group so far winning 3 matches and losing just one match, Arsenal match with lens is gonna be a though match because Lens will want to win in other to probably come second in the group while Arsenal will also want to extend their lead in the group so they might actually settle for a draw as Arsenal wouldn't want to lose both home and away to Lens so it's really gonna be an interesting match.

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November 14, 2023, 06:23:08 PM
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The game might be difficult for Arsenal because most of their players are facing injuries and these players are mostly their key players, perhaps before the matchday one or two may have returned from injury.

Arsenal coach has to hope that none of his players who will be on international duty don't get injured because that will be more trouble for him and against what he is hoping to achieve this season with the club. In their next game against Lens, they have the better advantage winning since they will playing at home and always play well at home. Arsenal are desperately in need of new signings, they will have the January window to make that reinforcement to the team because if they qualify for the next stage of the competition, it will be a tougher test.

At least, Arsenal also has a revenge mission because in reality, Lens as the weakest team in the group, managed to beat Arsenal in their first match or in their first meeting in this group phase. So yes, playing at home has become the main target for Arsenal to beat Lens, because if Arsenal succeeds in beating Lens in the next match. So Arsenal can be sure of qualifying for the round of 16, because Arsenal at this moment is also at the top of Group B with a 4 point gap with the team currently in second place. So ya, even though Arsenal lost several players due to injury, but I hope it doesn't have a bad impact on Arsenal performance in the next match against Lens.

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November 14, 2023, 06:23:56 PM
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Manchester United is not going anywhere past the group stage and if they narrowly escape this group stage, they will crash in the knockout stage. Do you know there problem, they conceded a lot of goals. Check their last 5 matches, they have conceded more than 9 matches and have conceded 11 goals in 4 games in the Champions League, a team that want to go far in a league will not only score but also reduce the rate of goals they conceded and how do they achieve that? ETH don't know how to stabilize his team, and they yield easily to simple pressure as a result of bad defensive system.

How is ETH will be moving forward without his favorite striker Rashford, it's crystal clear that the rest of the matches is going to be for entertainment than to have good result because how are they going to win Galatasaray in an away match and still win Bayern in home match, it will be impossible but nothing is impossible, winning that two matches is going to be 6 point and if Galatasaray and Copenhagen fumble, they might have a chance to go but I'm not sure what happened after the group stage.

Yeah as I said the defensive problems are at a serious level. The only way they can make up for that a little more is to score more goals. However Rashford is really horrible this season. He is like he has lost his finishing skills from last season all of a sudden.  Grin  Besides that red card he got against Copenhagen must have demoralized him even more.

Like these all aren't enough Hojlund has also just got injured and he isn't expected to recover until late November.

Erik ten Hag's options in the attacking line are narrowing down every day and let's see what kind of a squad they will have in their next Champions League match.

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November 14, 2023, 06:29:55 PM
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For me no team asides of Manchester City and Real Madrid can have a chance right now to become the champion of the season of UCL, the 15% for Bayern can be accurate but also overstimate, because they havent played against any good team until now. And this Bayern is going from less to more, but lets see how they do against big teams, against a weak Man utd they strugled a lot.
I couldn't agree any less with you, Manchester city and Real Madrid not only perform so well in their group in the champions league but they aswell perform brilliantly in their various domestic league where they are at the top of the table showing how well informed they are in their strength, they both have some level of consistency aswell.

Bayern Munich isn't a team to underestimate because their domestic league where they play too isn't an easy one, they also have it very competitive there aswell yet they are doing well and back at the champions league they aren't performing any less although it seems as if they are yet to meet teams who are in better form as compared to those in their group but then they will most likely still have they form to face other tougher team after the group stage and probably get a good result.

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November 14, 2023, 06:36:21 PM
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The game might be difficult for Arsenal because most of their players are facing injuries and these players are mostly their key players, perhaps before the matchday one or two may have returned from injury.

Arsenal coach has to hope that none of his players who will be on international duty don't get injured because that will be more trouble for him and against what he is hoping to achieve this season with the club. In their next game against Lens, they have the better advantage winning since they will playing at home and always play well at home. Arsenal are desperately in need of new signings, they will have the January window to make that reinforcement to the team because if they qualify for the next stage of the competition, it will be a tougher test.
Guess it's too late for that. It has been officially disclosed that the three Brazilians. Gabreil Jesus, Gabreil Martineli and Gabriel Mahgaalles of Arsenal l has successfully arrived at Brazil today and might start training as soon as possible.

This is the speech from Brazil team doctor Rodrigo Lasmar on Gabriel Jesus:

"We have maintained contact with the club’s medical department and the athlete. He is recovering from a muscle injury to the back of his right thigh.

However, i saw the effort Arsenal coach has to put to avoid most of his players going for the international games. He had to even lie that most of them are in on injury. I won't blame him because most of his players are on injury, and he has two leagues his fighting for which is the EPL and UCL. Arsenal's coach doesn't want to take any chance of losing the league, so it has to act wise and play safe.

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November 14, 2023, 06:51:31 PM
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The game might be difficult for Arsenal because most of their players are facing injuries and these players are mostly their key players, perhaps before the matchday one or two may have returned from injury.
Arsenal coach has to hope that none of his players who will be on international duty don't get injured because that will be more trouble for him and against what he is hoping to achieve this season with the club. In their next game against Lens, they have the better advantage winning since they will playing at home and always play well at home. Arsenal are desperately in need of new signings, they will have the January window to make that reinforcement to the team because if they qualify for the next stage of the competition, it will be a tougher test.
Few clubs are surely now worried about these international duty players as they are already suffering due to injuries and surely Arsenal is also now having troubling time with most chances as updates are coming, they will recruit few players in this winter transfer window because in this season Arteta want to go through with full strength and challenge is not easy in presence of Manchester City, Liverpool and Tottenham.

Currently, their few players are also having problems with their performance, and few are down with injuries which are surely not good situation with their chances are high for staying at the top in both leagues hopefully Arsenal will be in top 8 for the Champions League even things could be not easy but still they can manage until this spot.

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November 14, 2023, 06:59:44 PM
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For me no team asides of Manchester City and Real Madrid can have a chance right now to become the champion of the season of UCL, the 15% for Bayern can be accurate but also overstimate, because they havent played against any good team until now. And this Bayern is going from less to more, but lets see how they do against big teams, against a weak Man utd they strugled a lot.

Manchester United is a good team, if you don't think they are good then I have no reason why Manchester United can score 3 goals at the Allianz Arena. Manchester City and Bayern Munich are the two favorite teams this season, while I agree that Real Madrid is another favorite candidate.

Real Madrid must be admitted to have weaknesses that could harm them in big matches against strong teams. They also don't have too strong opponents even though Napoli could be the closest team to qualify from the same group to the last 16. I think Real Madrid will have a hard time when they enter the knockout stages, unless they get weak opponents.

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November 14, 2023, 07:01:49 PM
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I couldn't agree any less with you, Manchester city and Real Madrid not only perform so well in their group in the champions league but they aswell perform brilliantly in their various domestic league where they are at the top of the table showing how well informed they are in their strength, they both have some level of consistency aswell.

Bayern Munich isn't a team to underestimate because their domestic league where they play too isn't an easy one, they also have it very competitive there aswell yet they are doing well and back at the champions league they aren't performing any less although it seems as if they are yet to meet teams who are in better form as compared to those in their group but then they will most likely still have they form to face other tougher team after the group stage and probably get a good result.
Real Madrid has currently lost the lead, they are second after Girona, but this may be temporary. In any case, you are right, these are teams that set maximum goals for themselves and they are able to achieve them. This season for me there are two clear contenders for the Champions League title: City and Real. Bayern is also a very strong team, but at the moment they are not in their optimal condition, although the final is still far away and everything can change.

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November 14, 2023, 07:04:53 PM
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For me no team asides of Manchester City and Real Madrid can have a chance right now to become the champion of the season of UCL, the 15% for Bayern can be accurate but also overstimate, because they havent played against any good team until now. And this Bayern is going from less to more, but lets see how they do against big teams, against a weak Man utd they strugled a lot.
No doubt about the quality of these teams with Manchester City is surely having edge but after them, I have feeling Bayern Munich and Real Madrid both are having same advantage and as their performance is going we can expect them into last four if we have no clash in early matches for the last and fourth team we will have tough competition between few teams because these all are having same level of quality but still few clubs like Inter Milan and Arsenal are better.

At the top Manchester City is surely hot favorite for another double, but their challengers are also doing their best which is going to create good entertainment for the soccer fans in coming matches specially Real Madrid performance is impressive even mostly were feeling they are having problems due to lacking of quality striker.

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November 14, 2023, 07:08:19 PM
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I couldn't agree any less with you, Manchester city and Real Madrid not only perform so well in their group in the champions league but they aswell perform brilliantly in their various domestic league where they are at the top of the table showing how well informed they are in their strength, they both have some level of consistency aswell.

Bayern Munich isn't a team to underestimate because their domestic league where they play too isn't an easy one, they also have it very competitive there aswell yet they are doing well and back at the champions league they aren't performing any less although it seems as if they are yet to meet teams who are in better form as compared to those in their group but then they will most likely still have they form to face other tougher team after the group stage and probably get a good result.
Real Madrid has currently lost the lead, they are second after Girona, but this may be temporary. In any case, you are right, these are teams that set maximum goals for themselves and they are able to achieve them. This season for me there are two clear contenders for the Champions League title: City and Real. Bayern is also a very strong team, but at the moment they are not in their optimal condition, although the final is still far away and everything can change.

@Altryist unless Kane can break his trophy jinx Bayern won’t win the champions league this season because so far even with Bayern he’s failed to win any cup so far. Also Real Madrid player’s would like to gift Carlo a final gift by winning this year’s champions league however if they end up facing City then it’ll be very difficult for them but it won’t be easy for City too.
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November 14, 2023, 07:11:06 PM
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For me no team asides of Manchester City and Real Madrid can have a chance right now to become the champion of the season of UCL, the 15% for Bayern can be accurate but also overstimate, because they havent played against any good team until now. And this Bayern is going from less to more, but lets see how they do against big teams, against a weak Man utd they strugled a lot.
I couldn't agree any less with you, Manchester city and Real Madrid not only perform so well in their group in the champions league but they aswell perform brilliantly in their various domestic league where they are at the top of the table showing how well informed they are in their strength, they both have some level of consistency aswell.

Bayern Munich isn't a team to underestimate because their domestic league where they play too isn't an easy one, they also have it very competitive there aswell yet they are doing well and back at the champions league they aren't performing any less although it seems as if they are yet to meet teams who are in better form as compared to those in their group but then they will most likely still have they form to face other tougher team after the group stage and probably get a good result.
On paper, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munchen are indeed very superior, the three clubs who have recorded perfect points in their 4 group phase matches so far without defeats or draws. In terms of squad depth, these three teams are very good, they have almost equal rotation options so they are able to show stable performance in the top two competitions. This is the main factor in their success every season, when faced with player injuries or card accumulation they are not too bothered by these two things, even though sometimes the results do not match expectations.

I think all the clubs that are currently struggling in the group phase have the ambition to move to the next stages, and will try to match the positive results in their respective domestic leagues. But there are only 16 teams that can advance from the group phase to the last 16, Bayern, Madrid and City have already confirmed themselves to qualify first, followed by Real Sociedad and Inter Milan.

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November 14, 2023, 07:17:41 PM
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I couldn't agree any less with you, Manchester city and Real Madrid not only perform so well in their group in the champions league but they aswell perform brilliantly in their various domestic league where they are at the top of the table showing how well informed they are in their strength, they both have some level of consistency aswell.

Bayern Munich isn't a team to underestimate because their domestic league where they play too isn't an easy one, they also have it very competitive there aswell yet they are doing well and back at the champions league they aren't performing any less although it seems as if they are yet to meet teams who are in better form as compared to those in their group but then they will most likely still have they form to face other tougher team after the group stage and probably get a good result.
Real Madrid has currently lost the lead, they are second after Girona, but this may be temporary. In any case, you are right, these are teams that set maximum goals for themselves and they are able to achieve them. This season for me there are two clear contenders for the Champions League title: City and Real. Bayern is also a very strong team, but at the moment they are not in their optimal condition, although the final is still far away and everything can change.

@Altryist unless Kane can break his trophy jinx Bayern won’t win the champions league this season because so far even with Bayern he’s failed to win any cup so far. Also Real Madrid player’s would like to gift Carlo a final gift by winning this year’s champions league however if they end up facing City then it’ll be very difficult for them but it won’t be easy for City too.
Since Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the favorites for this cup, we can say that they are the strongest teams for the UCL championship. Harry Kane has been playing brilliantly for Bayern Munich so far. Of course, there is a possibility of winning the cup. He plays in a team that can even win the UCL cup.

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