Can One's Religion Compel A Compulsive Gambler To Quit Gambling

[robelneo]

This is kind of off-topic and not relate to gambling discussion or gambling.

I don't think this is something off-topic, our characters connect how we gamble and our belief in gambling, I've been creating topics about gambling and the characters, situation, and belief, we are all governed by beliefs and our environment and people that surround us, I just witness some people that continue to gamble secretly even though their sect or group prohibit gambling, and also seen how a person totally stopped gambling after being converted, and people stopped after being converted but return afterward.
I just want to ask our members here what are their beliefs and do they know of some people whose religion made an impact on their belief in gambling.

[cabron]

Would you even be a guy who goes to church when you goes everyday online playing cards?
I doubt that and religion will just be a waste of time for them. Unless your family was already a member of a congregation and then suddenly you discover internet casinos. You're going to be pulled back by your family and friends to quit the casino.

One reason why a gambler becomes a church member is to steal church money. I could be wrong but he is up to something.

[BITCOIN4X]

I just want to ask our members here what are their beliefs and do they know of some people whose religion made an impact on their belief in gambling.

Of course there are, even some people say they don't want to use a signature from any casino for religious reasons. Gambling is also the same, some users do not gamble even though they have quite a lot of knowledge about gambling. Gambling is expressly prohibited in all religions, but you can always choose your own path in life.

Religious reasons have also pushed some people to stop gambling especially when they are sober. But back to the main topic, they have their own way about gambling regardless of whether religion, country, community and anyone in your social sphere forbids it.

[rahmad2nd]

I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

I'm a little at a loss to respond to this thread, let alone read the title. because, based on my understanding and point of view. the religion that I believe in is not coercion, the religion that I believe in, gives you freedom. it's just that, there is no such thing as absolute freedom. one must know, what is not allowed and what is allowed. religion, is just a guide for someone who believes in it. It should be noted, that what you do or someone does entirely on their own awareness. it's just that, in everything we do, we will reap the results, whether it's bad or good. At least, the concept is as simple as that. "from my personal point of view"

Now we discuss the case, whether religion can cure a compulsive gambler, even to stop. The answer is very simple, it could be yes, it could be no. However, it all depends on each individual. In fact, we've had a lot of discussion about compulsive gambling and methods for stopping it.
IMO, even without religion, someone with any addiction can stop depending on how the individual is. as I often say in discussions like this, that in essence, if someone wants to get rid of or recover from addiction. the problem is with him, if he has a strong determination and desire to recover "in this context gambling addicts" whatever the method of healing, it will be very effective with the results.

[hyudien]

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

This came back to him, because if he seriously wanted to change his beliefs and wanted to be even better by following religious rules then of course he would provide an explanation that gambling is prohibited in any religion. It's just that here we cannot be 100% sure whether the method of prohibition is totally or in a way that is much more acceptable to gamblers, for example through several stages of meditation, self-control, trying various positive activities that have been prepared in such a way as to divert their gambling habit. So I return everything to what method he will later use in the process of studying religion.

[Cling18]

Based on what I have witnessed, I can say that religion can change a person's preference toward gambling but if he's deep into it, religion will still not be a hinder for him to quit. I have a new churchmate who is known in our community as a gambler. He has converted to our religion and is attending Sunday services regularly but regularly, he still gambles the whole week. However, we are not judging him for what he's doing because we all know how hard it is to totally turn his back from his routine. His belief will not totally change him that fast but I believe that he will still have the courage to change his perception in time.
The decision to change his life still relies on a person's decision and not on any religion. It needs courage and self-control to avoid and quit gambling because it will take a long process of willingness and commitment to change.

[STT]

Gambling is banned like drinking alcohol in a few religions and its not optional, it even might apply national where the country is based in that religion.   So even legally you could be compelled not to continue.   What actually happens in countries with bans on gambling is the gambling continues but conducted by the black market and without any oversight.   You have to decide which is more important to you personally, I understand that some faiths require a strict less indulgent lifestyle but nobody is perfect. 

[dothebeats]

There's no religion that can save a compulsive gambler, much more if this gambler in question does not have any self-control and cannot practice restraint on his own.

Humans are creatures of habit, and our brains are programmed to go back to where it gets the most pleasure from. If you find pleasure in gambling, no matter how much you turn away from it, you will always feel the urge to go back and gamble. Though if you know how to control your urges and not let it get the better of you, this wouldn't be that much of a problem to you at all.

I know there are some religions out there that are extremely strict about gambling and related stuff, but again it's entirely reliant on the person whether to act on their urges or not.

[GigaBit]

I think it's simple that if a gambler listens to religion then he quits gambling, that's a personal matter. If someone does not leave that is also his personal matter. Every religion has commandments and prohibitions on various matters, but there are some who follow it and others who reject it. I would agree with many that even though some conduct gambling in disregard of religion, they may later return to religious ideals. Religion can show you good and bad but it is one's own responsibility to follow.

[Ndabagi01]

This is only possible if the person is not an addicted gambler or a Chronic gambler and again such person's does really surrendered him or her self purely to the religion because I strongly understand every believer of any religion are a dedicated member who are truly routed into that commission and would never wants to act against their ethics and religious.

There have been occasions where persons who were addicted to a certain habit changed their minds, either due to a change in religion or an action that led to that shift. It makes no difference whether the person was an addict or not; once the mind is pushed to stop whatever it has been engaged in, he or she can just stop. In most circumstances, it is an instant, event, or occurrence that causes a change of mind to divert from what they were previously addicted to.

So, those who are merely converts may not stops gambling and until they understand the things of their doctrine and have fear to follow those things carefully may lead them to stop gambling, hence if the spirit is not convinced and the body is willing such person would certainly go back to gambling. Until the body and souls is routed and convinced then such persons will definitely quit gambling and must not be given a space otherwise whenever he comes to his carnal body he might go back to his past did.

Newly converted people should be given more time to adjust their previous habits if they violate the precepts of their new religion. It is not easy to break an old habit and begin a new one. Some religions consider acting against religious principles to be a test. And passing a test is not easy; it will take time for them to be able to leave that forever. If they are willing to quit such behavior and are truthful about it, they will certainly succeed over time.

[alastantiger]

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Religion and spirituality is very powerful. And it is a force for good.
I have seen people break free from several addictions because when they embraced religion and spirituality. Religion and spirituality entails abstaining from sin and doing all you can to please a higher power. Immediately one embraces religion they become aware of the do's and don't. And depending on what the teaching of the religion says about gambling they are either inclined to continue or do all they can with the help of their new found community to quit.
In conclusion religion is a force for change especially for those who are seeking help to quit gambling.

[Huppercase]

Gambling is banned like drinking alcohol in a few religions and its not optional, it even might apply national where the country is based in that religion.   So even legally you could be compelled not to continue.   What actually happens in countries with bans on gambling is the gambling continues but conducted by the black market and without any oversight.   You have to decide which is more important to you personally, I understand that some faiths require a strict less indulgent lifestyle but nobody is perfect. 

I think gambling rule and faith should be a thing of choice, it should not be something they have to force people to do and not to do, but the government ofcourse can implement regulations. I personally think gambling is fun and it is profitable just like the way we have business that brings in profits. I mean no offense, look a Saudi Arabia that are spending millions of dollars of their oil money to buy players to come their country to play football but there are still some other parts of them that ban gambling, they see it as an act that goes against their believe and it is not suppose to be like that.

[ryzaadit]

You mean instant?

Nope off course, gambling is a habit. Need time and recovery to be able get out from addiction, there is no thing can quit instantly because everything need time until that person are 90-100% off gambling.

However, with religion things is the best thing to maximize your time into a good things.

[Bananington]

Some people are religious, but they started gambling and even with their religion, they still became addicted to Gambling. Choosing not to gamble is not a decision influenced by religion, it is a personal decision. As an addicted gambler, you will stop gambling when you decide, if you cannot help yourself, then you need help, but admitting the need to change is the first thing to do. Your personal decision matters more and will be a stronger to make you stop gambling.

[Renampun]

I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

We cannot know 100% about the contents of a person's head and heart, so a gambler who has just converted (from an atheist to a religious believer) still has a tendency to play gambling secretly (it is difficult to fully recover 100%). gambling is addictive, without being monitored closely, then someone who has just recovered from his gambling addiction still has the opportunity to return to his bad habits, now it's back to that person, if he really has a strong determination to stop then he will definitely fight for it.

[Slow death]

the power that religion influences on a person is so great that it makes people become other people, and I'm not talking as if that were going to be a good thing, for example it's something normal for a person who likes gambling , when he joins one of these religious sects he stops gambling and then he will start telling all the people close to him that they should also stop gambling because God has shown him the whole truth, because God has shown him that gambling are things of the devil, I'm not exaggerating, I've already seen this because here in my country there are many different churches

these churches, different from my country, they brainwash people, and in my country, when people have a relative addicted to gambling, addicted to alcoholic beverages, they immediately take that person to church and after some time that person spends time in church, they leave while it's already someone else, it comes out while hating gambling and people who are playing gambling, it's something very scary, I saw a lot of people that I know who were people who liked games, they weren't addicted, they liked movies, they liked anime, but when they entered my country's church they completely changed

[milewilda]

I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

Depends on a certain person because whether you do transfer out from one religion to another or havent done it at all then its up to someone whether he would be stopping or not because we know that this would really be pertaining on someones control and will whether they would be stopping or not, which it isnt basing on religious aspects. Quitting gambling is really that basing on someones will and not on other factors but
we know that there are indeed religion which is really that prohibiting gambling.If a certain individual is really that having that seriousness about divine things then he might really be having considerations on quitting
immediately because of being afraid on getting those kind of sins which is basing on religious aspect. But for sure that most of people wouldnt really be minding about whether its prohibited or not.
Gambling isnt really that bad as long you do really know your limits and we know that this is really just that something good for just fun.

[serjent05]

I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

It is possible that a religion can stop an addicted person to top gambing.  The process of replacing the uncontrollable urge to gamble with the urge to to set things straight.  Faith is a very powerful agent that can turn a person and its standpoint in an instance.

Once enlightened by religion, the person will definitely avoid or stop playing in casinos since the faith will serve as catalyst to make a gambling addict stop gambling.  Remember gambling addiction occupies a person's state of mind, faith also occupies the person's state of mind, and with faith outweighing the urge to gamble then it can really serve as way to stop gambling addiction.

[South Park]

I'm not specific to any religion and hopefully, no members here will mention any religion, the topic is in general and not specific to one's religion

Can a compulsive gambler that is newly converted to one religion, compel him to stop gambling?

When we talk about religion it's about changing our ways, ideas, and beliefs so when we successfully help one compulsive gambler to convert from an example to an atheist to one's religion can we compel him to stop gambling?

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

That depends on the religion itself, there are religions which do not forbid gambling, so I would guess that an addicted gambler which converted to such religion will not have too much of an incentive to stop gambling as it is not forbidden, now there are some religions which do in fact forbid any kind of gambling, and if the conversion of that person to the tenets of that religion is true then it is possible they could stop gambling as a way to respect their new faith.

[bittraffic]

Is it possible that he will continue playing but secretly?

All he needs is a phone to play just about any casino game he wants and he can play in public as long as no one is looking down his shoulder. Religion is not a very good combination when you are into casinos. But the goal of playing casino is to win and make money, religion will not make you money. AS a matter of fact, you lose more when you're required to give to those cults.

Someone must be in the church this gambler like so much such as a woman. That woman can change a gambler to stop the habit. Religion helped in a bit to unite them together.