How the casino takes money from you with a deposit bonus

[lionheart78]

I agree it's deceptive and yet it's still the popular way to invite gamblers to try their games, I seldom participate in deposit bonuses, because of the requirements, I prefer to deposit with no attachment of unusually high wagering requirements.

I do not think that it is deceptive.  First, before we claim the bonus, the terms are already stated.  It is up to us if we claim it or not.  There is no hidden rule or agenda on there, even the wagering requirement and how the bonus amount is spent are stated on the terms.  So I really don't think that there is a deception in there.

Only good if you want to try the platform without thinking of any profit and just want to play be entertained and let whatever happens,  happen, I am more comfortable with that.

I believe the bonus amount for the deposit is for that kind of function.  To test and explore the platform games.  It is indeed beneficial for players that wanted to experience a longer gameplay on the platform without intending to come out with any winnings.  Else they will be frustrated on the wagering requirement since it needs a certain wagering amount to be able to withdraw the winnings from the deposit bonus

[LUCKMCFLY]

I personally know one casino where the wager for x1 bonuses. For example, they give a 100% bonus up to $1000 with x1 wagering. The casino withdraws money, but verification is required through the bot in the service. The perfect casino for a bonus hunters. I'm ready to give a link for a small remuneration, PM.

Which casino do you know with 1x wagering requirements but has a 100% or $1000 bonus, tell us the name I'm also curious about the casino you mean.
Many casinos already use bots in their services, so it's not a difficult thing, but at least if there is a problem they want to deal with it right away, not a bot that actually gives a response.

Regarding bonuses, I have never felt getting a bonus with a decent and easy amount with just 1x bet.

I am also very curious about that casino, because the truth is that the only one I know that sometimes gives bonuses of this style is bitcasino.io, and that casino is one of the best in the world and in the forum, it is up to the standards. best in the world, but if there is another one like that that has those wagering requirements I would like to know, because I have seen that some members of the forum list the best casinos with their withdrawal fees, minimum deposit and everything, but with that amount of 1x It really matters a lot, because that's like playing with the money that is deposited but only a bit more leveraged , because 1x seems really decent to me.

I agree it's deceptive and yet it's still the popular way to invite gamblers to try their games, I seldom participate in deposit bonuses, because of the requirements, I prefer to deposit with no attachment of unusually high wagering requirements.
Only good if you want to try the platform without thinking of any profit and just want to play be entertained and let whatever happens,  happen, I am more comfortable with that.

It's just business, and no one should get angry at their own strategy. That's why there are more than one Casinos with better service and reward system.
Am sure regulators would knock on the door of anyone going astray from the doings of a casino with a lawsuit to prohibit or sanction such acts. Until this happens, we can patronize other better casinos, that's if this isn't a norm among them all.

Of course , this is a Fact, every casino according to their financial capabilities Offers their Services, contests and Bonuses , some are less difficult than others , but why? Because their clients need it, it's not that they give away money, but sometimes the bonuses are necessary for some players because they only care about playing and playing more and more, there are others who only seek to earn money and see a casino that is like an ATM, the I really don't know how they can expect that, I do not have any illusions, I am Clear that when I enter a casino my options are very clear to me , I Cannot imagine winning a lot because I bet Little, and every win I have I treasure and not I risk, the fact of seeing the casino as a Business that has few tickets , But if I get them I don't Risk them.

[Fortify]

Hello! Seeing here a topic about bonuses and rewards. Decided to create a topic. It seems to me very important for players who do not understand how RTP works in a casino and why they give deposit bonuses with a large wager (x10+). Also, those who did not understand how it works before will be able to calculate EV (Expected value) by themselves. And yes, you can still find bonuses with +EV, I personally know one such casino.

The best bonus is not to take the bonus if it has a big wager, because it will be -EV (-Expected value). Any casino game is -EV, if you play by the rules of the casino. I will give an example of why you should not take deposit bonuses with a high wager. The casino gives a 100% bonus on the first deposit and wager x40 (D+B) = 200 x40 = 8k, we make a deposit of $100 and they give us another $100 = $200 (wager 200*40=8k). The casino has an average RTP of 96% (percent is different everywhere, depends on slots or house games and so on). For every $100 wagered we get back $96 according to the mathematical expectation (100-96=4), $960 for 1k wager (1000-960=40), $7680 for 8k wager (8000-7680=320). And after the full wagering, we will lose $320 (D+B and also we need more $120), which gives a very large -EV. Who thinks about this and the casinos began to raise the wager.

It's nice to see the mathematical breakdown on the welcome bonus equation because it's rarely highlighted here. However as soon as I see you must wager x amount of times to unlock the cash, it instantly turns me off the offer because, as you've highlighted, you are almost guaranteed to lose any potential money you might have "unlocked" by having to risk it repeatedly. If anything it is the casino trying to form a habit behavior in you and get you familiar with all of their gambling offerings. Then you start to wonder, can I even withdraw my money at this point or you might just overdo it and forget that you start wagering your own initial deposit after you burn through the whole amount given away on the initial wagering offer. Just best to avoid anything with more than a simple 1x or 2x wagering requirement, if any at all.

[LUCKMCFLY]

At some point when we have fallen for casino bonuses, we think that the casino takes our money, or it is a way to do it, but it is not, we have fallen for laziness of not reading the terms and conditions of the bonuses, and that is something that I will never deny, that is why I learned that bonuses, contests where there are betting requirements, I learned not to take them unless they are free or with a 1x wager, otherwise I do not do it, with respect to the fact that casinos they steal the deposit no, it is not like that, they set the conditions and it is up to us to decide if we want to take it or not.

Hello! Seeing here a topic about bonuses and rewards. Decided to create a topic. It seems to me very important for players who do not understand how RTP works in a casino and why they give deposit bonuses with a large wager (x10+). Also, those who did not understand how it works before will be able to calculate EV (Expected value) by themselves. And yes, you can still find bonuses with +EV, I personally know one such casino.

The best bonus is not to take the bonus if it has a big wager, because it will be -EV (-Expected value). Any casino game is -EV, if you play by the rules of the casino. I will give an example of why you should not take deposit bonuses with a high wager. The casino gives a 100% bonus on the first deposit and wager x40 (D+B) = 200 x40 = 8k, we make a deposit of $100 and they give us another $100 = $200 (wager 200*40=8k). The casino has an average RTP of 96% (percent is different everywhere, depends on slots or house games and so on). For every $100 wagered we get back $96 according to the mathematical expectation (100-96=4), $960 for 1k wager (1000-960=40), $7680 for 8k wager (8000-7680=320). And after the full wagering, we will lose $320 (D+B and also we need more $120), which gives a very large -EV. Who thinks about this and the casinos began to raise the wager.

It's nice to see the mathematical breakdown on the welcome bonus equation because it's rarely highlighted here. However as soon as I see you must wager x amount of times to unlock the cash, it instantly turns me off the offer because, as you've highlighted, you are almost guaranteed to lose any potential money you might have "unlocked" by having to risk it repeatedly. If anything it is the casino trying to form a habit behavior in you and get you familiar with all of their gambling offerings. Then you start to wonder, can I even withdraw my money at this point or you might just overdo it and forget that you start wagering your own initial deposit after you burn through the whole amount given away on the initial wagering offer. Just best to avoid anything with more than a simple 1x or 2x wagering requirement, if any at all.

I like the way he does the analysis, this is something that many sometimes ask themselves, when I was a novice and they told me 10x, 5x, whatever, I assumed it because I didn't really know how that worked, I saw it as normal, almost I didn't even know how it worked, but when I was doing things to withdraw money I wasn't given, and that's the first rookie hit I took, obviously I lost the money I deposited, because I didn't even read, but I contacted support and In support they told me what I had to do, and since I started to play faster and with desperation, I lost that money, and obviously one feels angry, because one feels that the casino did not rob you, but that is not the case, they are options that give a casino, one will see if he takes them or not.

[markk1]

I found one casino, deposit bonuses are some kind of nonsense.

Bonus Terms: All Bonuses, including but not limited to, welcome bonus, birthday bonus, special bonus, and any other bonuses, are valid for 7 days upon the point of claiming. If any associated playthrough (place bets) for the bonus haven’t been met within the 7-day period, the current bonus balance will be removed from the account. The wagering requirement – 40, a max deposit – 1000, and a max win – 500.

The minimum amount for a withdrawal is currently 100 Euros. Winnings may currently be withdrawn up to 1500 Euros per calendar week, except for VIP Bronze and VIP Chrome be up to 500 Euros per calendar week. You can make up to 4 withdrawals a month without charge. Each additional withdrawal transaction shall be charged a 60 Euro fee. We may change the above minimum amounts from time to time at our discretion. In case a customer has a pending withdrawal, deposit limits and/or withdrawal limits cannot be altered.

The maximum win from deposit bonuses is x0.5 (if maximum deposit) + your deposit 1000 = 1500! No matter how much you deposit, 100 or 1000, maximum win - 500 + your deposit!

[maydna]

Only good if you want to try the platform without thinking of any profit and just want to play be entertained and let whatever happens,  happen, I am more comfortable with that.

I believe the bonus amount for the deposit is for that kind of function.  To test and explore the platform games.  It is indeed beneficial for players that wanted to experience a longer gameplay on the platform without intending to come out with any winnings.  Else they will be frustrated on the wagering requirement since it needs a certain wagering amount to be able to withdraw the winnings from the deposit bonus

Well, it's better that way because we won't be disappointed if we lose our try. We will also know how good the casino is, and maybe if we still want to know more, we can deposit as much money as we can afford and see how good our luck is. Testing and exploring the casino platform is highly recommended before we make the casino a good casino, and we can add it to our casino list or recommend it to friends later. But after all, casinos must know how to take all their money without us noticing because playing gambling pleases many people and keeps them returning to the casino.

[markk1]

I found one casino, deposit bonuses are some kind of nonsense.

Bonus Terms: All Bonuses, including but not limited to, welcome bonus, birthday bonus, special bonus, and any other bonuses, are valid for 7 days upon the point of claiming. If any associated playthrough (place bets) for the bonus haven’t been met within the 7-day period, the current bonus balance will be removed from the account. The wagering requirement – 40, a max deposit – 1000, and a max win – 500.

The minimum amount for a withdrawal is currently 100 Euros. Winnings may currently be withdrawn up to 1500 Euros per calendar week, except for VIP Bronze and VIP Chrome be up to 500 Euros per calendar week. You can make up to 4 withdrawals a month without charge. Each additional withdrawal transaction shall be charged a 60 Euro fee. We may change the above minimum amounts from time to time at our discretion. In case a customer has a pending withdrawal, deposit limits and/or withdrawal limits cannot be altered.

The maximum win from deposit bonuses is x0.5 (if maximum deposit) + your deposit 1000 = 1500! No matter how much you deposit, 100 or 1000, maximum win - 500 + your deposit!

This casino network makes copy/paste clones. It only changes the design a little, the principle of operation is the same. Be careful before making a deposit and taking a bonus.

[markk1]

Here's the news. Betfury has made super conditions for deposit bonuses. The maximum possible claim after wagering the bonus is 1.5, if you had a bonus of $100, then you can take a maximum of $150.
Also, in conditions of a lot of restrictions on slots, almost all top slots are closed for playing with a bonus. Be sure to read the terms and conditions before accepting a deposit bonus.

[markk1]

How are you doing, do you take deposit bonuses or play only with your deposits?

[Assface16678]

I agree with you because casinos are businesses and they are profits oriented and at that it is very important to adhere to the strict operational conditions that helped both the gamblers and the casino but most importantly the casino is favoured when it comes to giving out free money in form of bonuses and since the casino doesn't want to give out free money the accompanied their bonuses with high wager requirements.

So also we have to be smart enough to know how to apply ourselves to all the conditions that the casino may put up when we are chasing bonuses.

Casino bonuses are a common marketing strategy used by online casinos to attract new players and retain existing ones. These bonuses come in various forms, such as welcome bonuses, no-deposit bonuses, free spins, and loyalty rewards. While they may seem like free money at first glance, it is essential to understand that casinos are businesses aiming to make a profit as you have noted and so, the terms and conditions attached to these bonuses often include wagering requirements to protect the casino’s interests.

Wagering requirements dictate how many times a player must wager the bonus amount before being able to withdraw any winnings associated with it. For example, if a casino offers a $100 bonus with a 20x wagering requirement, the player would need to wager $2000 ($100 x 20) before cashing out any winnings.

That's why it is very important for a gambler to read the rules and regulations first before believing or engaging in a new casino because bonuses are like a trap set for those who are finding to have much funds in order to play, but little do they know there are hidden or not hidden rules that are hard to see if you do not take precaution or observe first. That's why it's like a trap set for those who need to have a lot of funds in order to play, but little do they know there are hidden or not hidden rules that are hard to see if you do not take precaution or observe first. That's why it's like a trap set for those who need to have a lot of funds in order to play, but little do they know there are hidden or not hidden rules that are hard to see if you do not take precaution or observe first. That's why it is said that many new users or gamblers on a website are being trapped, or their funds are being trapped in a website casino, and they can't cash out their winnings because they still need to reach a specific amount of wager. That's why it is very important for anyone to read first before they check the terms and regulations, because that's when you can see their hard-to-see rules in order to avoid inconvenience and to avoid trapping your funds in a website casino.

[markk1]

Nowadays casinos use many tools in their favor so that players are fooled by their conditions and are at a disadvantage.
With bonuses there is a very low RTP. If you have never wondered how casinos fool people with bonuses and wagers, read my first post in this topic.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I agree with you because casinos are businesses and they are profits oriented and at that it is very important to adhere to the strict operational conditions that helped both the gamblers and the casino but most importantly the casino is favoured when it comes to giving out free money in form of bonuses and since the casino doesn't want to give out free money the accompanied their bonuses with high wager requirements.

So also we have to be smart enough to know how to apply ourselves to all the conditions that the casino may put up when we are chasing bonuses.

Casino bonuses are a common marketing strategy used by online casinos to attract new players and retain existing ones. These bonuses come in various forms, such as welcome bonuses, no-deposit bonuses, free spins, and loyalty rewards. While they may seem like free money at first glance, it is essential to understand that casinos are businesses aiming to make a profit as you have noted and so, the terms and conditions attached to these bonuses often include wagering requirements to protect the casino’s interests.

Wagering requirements dictate how many times a player must wager the bonus amount before being able to withdraw any winnings associated with it. For example, if a casino offers a $100 bonus with a 20x wagering requirement, the player would need to wager $2000 ($100 x 20) before cashing out any winnings.

That's why it is very important for a gambler to read the rules and regulations first before believing or engaging in a new casino because bonuses are like a trap set for those who are finding to have much funds in order to play, but little do they know there are hidden or not hidden rules that are hard to see if you do not take precaution or observe first. That's why it's like a trap set for those who need to have a lot of funds in order to play, but little do they know there are hidden or not hidden rules that are hard to see if you do not take precaution or observe first. That's why it's like a trap set for those who need to have a lot of funds in order to play, but little do they know there are hidden or not hidden rules that are hard to see if you do not take precaution or observe first. That's why it is said that many new users or gamblers on a website are being trapped, or their funds are being trapped in a website casino, and they can't cash out their winnings because they still need to reach a specific amount of wager. That's why it is very important for anyone to read first before they check the terms and regulations, because that's when you can see their hard-to-see rules in order to avoid inconvenience and to avoid trapping your funds in a website casino.

What you say is very true, there are many times that things can seem very good in casino bonuses, but the conditions of the casinos can be very intrinsically in the TOs at the beginning of the registration and not in the bonus as such that they say. Maybe that's why it's so important to say that the RTP is low compared to the bonuses and what's promised.

I learned a long time ago not to take bonuses from casinos, the truth is not by doing the RTP analysis like OP did, but in most cases there are many conditions for one to be able to withdraw that bonus later, and That is something that mortifies me, it is full of a series of great wagering to bet and the truth is I am not a person who has a lot of patience for that, I am more into playing, losing and winning, if I lose I accept it and if I win then I withdraw my money and I am not subject to any type of special conditions to withdraw, at most I must comply with the KYC and that is something very tedious.

[Quidat]

Nowadays casinos use many tools in their favor so that players are fooled by their conditions and are at a disadvantage.
With bonuses there is a very low RTP. If you have never wondered how casinos fool people with bonuses and wagers, read my first post in this topic.

Theyre business so its normal that it would really be making things which it would really be something that would be in their advantage and disadvantage into its users or gamblers on which it would really be just that depending on you whether you would really be fond on dealing up with those bonuses then its up to you but its really that common sense that those are just lure ups.
This is one of the main reason on why im not really that interested with these bonuses on whatever form it would be. No matter how good those %.. You would really be still needing to comply their requirements.Roll overs are really that out of this world or simply cant really be just that possible for you to deal with unless if you are extremely lucky.

[Crypt0Gore]

I choose to avoid any casino deposit bonuses because they always look straight out of the box but when you open them up you will see how deep they truly are.

Deposit bonuses comes will lots of garbage, they always have conditions applied, and if those conditions are not fully meet, your deposit bonuses aren't really going to be yours.

Since the day I learned about this I have stopped to go after any deposit bonuses even away from gambling, because other only platforms also have this bonuses like crypto exchanges and click-to-earn platforms.

In the end, you will find out that you have been used by this so-called deposit bonuses, a total waste of time, it won't sit we'll with someone who is just starting, but they will find out in the end.

[junder]

I choose to avoid any casino deposit bonuses because they always look straight out of the box but when you open them up you will see how deep they truly are.

Deposit bonuses comes will lots of garbage, they always have conditions applied, and if those conditions are not fully meet, your deposit bonuses aren't really going to be yours.

Since the day I learned about this I have stopped to go after any deposit bonuses even away from gambling, because other only platforms also have this bonuses like crypto exchanges and click-to-earn platforms.

In the end, you will find out that you have been used by this so-called deposit bonuses, a total waste of time, it won't sit we'll with someone who is just starting, but they will find out in the end.

I'm with you, I've always avoided bonuses provided by casinos, even though we can choose them but I think there are certain requirements that sometimes make me feel too complicated. When I make a deposit and there is a select bonus column I always ignore it for some reason but clearly throughout the gambling I did I never chose that feature. Because I saw my friend gamble by choosing the available bonuses, it actually became an additional thought for himself, such as the minimum withdrawal that was doubled. And with his game when the balance he has is sufficient for the minimum withdrawal that has been set but it changes so that it cannot be withdrawn because he previously chose the bonus feature. And with that makes me reluctant to choose the bonus feature.

That's one of the host's strategies set to make us happy by gambling and my thinking is that by choosing a bonus, it can make us forget the risk of losing so that we will only think about the fun side like winning and triggering our thoughts when the gambling that is done ends in defeat will make us deposit again, and right what you said maybe clearly we are only being used. Play the game don't let ourselves be played, that's what I got from other people.

[markk1]

BC.game gives everyone $5 for registration. You can only play certain slots. The conditions are terrible. The wager is x60, but the conditions indicate that only 50% of the slots go to the wager.
he maximum withdrawal from this no deposit is 5 dollars! Is this really the best crypto casino? The casino is terrible, don't play there.

[Sandra_hakeem]

If the casino wants to make things really easy for bonus players, they will quickly run out of business. Everyone will use their bonus to win big and kick them out of business.

even in free town, nothing is free!!
The casino would rather call on their management team to reorganize the system in a way that suites every expenses they make, rather than taking decisions that would kick them out, just to impress their client.. That's also the reasons why every casino must have a "minimum and a maximum withdrawal option" too.
Additionally, for every bonus a casino would give, there are alot of limitations to whether or not you can get it. It depends on your eligibility status; which is how much/often you wager.