Punt.com

[Edouble]

Hi, i tried this casino i found here in bitcointalk forum,

i signed up, made a deposit and tried to play to a slot....

results shown in casino statistics:

Total game played:  370
Total loss : 330
Total wins: 38

now im asking myself: how do the call this "provably fair?"
let me give you a little advice, stop playing to this S***, all online casino will
only cost you money an time, you will never win a dime in these places, and if you win,
you will lose it next time (doubled)..all games are programmatically set to steal your money...
they are not rigged by casino, there is no need to do it, they already born this way, directly
from the software company...period


Good Luck

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[Nwada001]

Both online and physical casinos are built to be in their favor; it's business for them, and you are going to their business to feed them. You have to lose for them to win. But not everyone who goes in there will win; a few will win, and lots of players will fail.

"Eh no favor you no mean say eh no go favor the next person" What that simply means is that just because the game is not in your favor doesn't mean others didn't benefit from it.
 

[QueenVera]

Lol
I'm sorry it seems I'm  laughing  but the truth is that, these are exact similar cases and news allegations I always expect from people who try out a new casino and suddenly  makes losses because there is always this disbelief that the casino is provably fair and the player might want to investigate  into reasons why he made such losses.
At some points, there have been threads talking about how casino  slot games are been designed to have more house edge against the player and  with this been said, I think anyone who is doing well in slot shoukd count himself lucky.

[yahoo62278]

Do you expect to only have winning bets? It's called gambling, nit always winning. I'm sorry you lost but trying to smear the casino because you lost is a childish move.

If you can't handle losing, you probably shouldn't gamble.

[kotajikikox]

Hi, i tried this casino i found here in bitcointalk forum,

i signed up, made a deposit and tried to play to a slot....

results shown in casino statistics:

Total game played:  370
Total loss : 330
Total wins: 38

now im asking myself: how do the call this "provably fair?"
let me give you a little advice, stop playing to this S***, all online casino will
only cost you money an time, you will never win a dime in these places, and if you win,
you will lose it next time (doubled)..all games are programmatically set to steal your money...
they are not rigged by casino, there is no need to do it, they already born this way, directly
from the software company...period


Good Luck

Seems like you are only going Online if you have something bad going to say against a certain casino because for all your 5 posts? 3 of them are attacking a casino site

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3336584;sa=showPosts

you have already a scam accusation to one online casino yet you managed to try doing it again now? are you truly a victim since you cannot provide a single proof aside from words , or are you a paid account to run against those casinos?

[lionheart78]

@OP it is normal for a slots to have a statistics like that especially when you are playing a high volatility to extreme volatility games but for more information, you could have stated the slots games you played so that we can determine if that statistics is normal. If you are playing games from NoLimitCity or Hacksaw, that statistic is normal because I have seen streams of bonus rounds where the streamer got 0x after the bonus round.

I have an experience playing with  slots by Playn' Go and the game named Moon Princess Trinity.  It is labeled high volatile and I got an experience where it gives 7 good consecutive hits out of 10 spins but often times it gives me 50 consecutive bad spins with 30 of them are dead spins and eventually hitting a bonus round that can recover my balance.  If I take the statistics, it would be close to your statistics but with some of them being bonus round triggered I am able to end up with a positive balance sometimes but obviously more often than not it resulted in a negative.

[joeperry]

Looks like you are frustrated about your bets. Most of the gamblers know that the casino always win, they are not charity, they are business company so don't expect that you could win against them. Regarding the Punt, I personally wasn't tested the site though they don't have any bad reviews as far as I know.

This is what will happened if you can't control your emotions while playing gambling. You wanted to play and you expect to win, and when you lose you'll blame the gambling site.

[panjul07]

You have no idea what is provably fair, if you know what is provably fair then you would have not connect it to the number of your winning/losing bets.
One more thing, you said that you play slot but AFAIK the slot in Punt comes from 3rd party providers which most of them has no clear provably fair system like the original games.
So you have just made 2 mistakes or you misunderstand 2 things here related to provably fair mechanism.
Even if you play slots with clear provably fair system, you may get even worse result if you are unlucky.
I guess you are a gambler who cant accept losses then you try to find a way to blame the casino.

[Solosanz]

now im asking myself: how do the call this "provably fair?"
let me give you a little advice, stop playing to this S***, all online casino will
only cost you money an time, you will never win a dime in these places, and if you win,
you will lose it next time (doubled)..all games are programmatically set to steal your money...
they are not rigged by casino, there is no need to do it, they already born this way, directly
from the software company...period

This mean you're not understand what's the real of provably fair is.

Even though it's true house always win, but it doesn't mean if the casino set a program to steal your money. Provably fair means you can verify your bets using hash and node, this is random because they use SHA256. Each games has a house edge, this make the casino has a higher chance to win than you as a gambler, there's a difference between chance and programmed.

[Johnyz]

Provably fair doesn’t mean making you always a winner, you’re in a gambling and here there’s no guaranteed profit. Losing the money can’t tell the site a scam, not unless you have valid proof then we might support your claim.

Unfortunately, you are saying this because you didn’t win on that site, and that’s sad that you still think gambling as a way of making profit, which in reality its too risky.

[Eternad]

Hi, i tried this casino i found here in bitcointalk forum,

i signed up, made a deposit and tried to play to a slot....

results shown in casino statistics:

Total game played:  370
Total loss : 330
Total wins: 38

This stats doesn’t make sense if you don’t indicate slot provider and it’s volatility because that’s give a huge impact on the percentage of your win/loss ratio. I’m wondering how do you count loss over win on slot games because it’s consider a winning bet too even if small profit, You just trigger smaller payout.

This stats pretty normal when playing a slot game with low hit ratio or high volatility. Don’t expect a 50/50 percentage or close to that on slot because it’s payout is random. You can recover all your losses with just 1 spin with big multiplier.

[elevates]

From where did you come and realized a casino platform will give you more opportunities than themselves? I am sorry to say either someone led you to understand that you can make a fortune by gambling or you are acting smart. The house, I mean the online casino you are questioning would always do what they are built to do. In simple text, if you do not understand gambling then keep out of it. You are either someone who is new to gambling or someone planted to create this thread.

[Mahdirakib]

The volatility of the slot and the hit rate has an important role on the win/loss ratio. I have similar experience like you in the high volatility slots game. If I'm not wrong, then Punt.com has considered all those bets as losing bets which multiplier was between 0.10× to 0.99×. There is nothing wrong with your statistics, but I know how it feels after having such losing streak. Anyway, you should update your ANN thread title with the theme of your post.

[ultrloa]

Hi, i tried this casino i found here in bitcointalk forum,

i signed up, made a deposit and tried to play to a slot....

results shown in casino statistics:

Total game played:  370
Total loss : 330
Total wins: 38

now im asking myself: how do the call this "provably fair?"
let me give you a little advice, stop playing to this S***, all online casino will
only cost you money an time, you will never win a dime in these places, and if you win,
you will lose it next time (doubled)..all games are programmatically set to steal your money...
they are not rigged by casino, there is no need to do it, they already born this way, directly
from the software company...period


Good Luck

This is the sign that you need to stop playing any online casino since this already cost a lot of stress to you. Much better if you focus your energy on other valuable things since ranting cannot do anything and will not convince any people who's still enjoying to play on any casino. Although I understand your frustration since many experience it, this is also the reason why we should not expect to win any huge amount since this will happen to us. 

Just enjoy the game and you will find it entertaining.

[piebeyb]

If you feel you are experiencing a losing streak, you should stop playing, not continue playing until your money runs out, you can't blame the casino completely because they will answer like that, why do you continue playing if you really feel it's unfair. I don't defend the casino either, but it seems you are wrong if you blame the casino without any evidence such as screenshots or anything else.

I think beginner accounts are not easy to trust here because you might make false accusations to bring down certain casinos, so that's why everyone won't believe you here, but when you play gambling then you lose it doesn't seem worth it if you drop the name of the casino let alone insult the name of the casino certain. be mature and accept defeat, when you gamble you should already know the risks. 

[Eureka_07]

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That's unfortunate. However, it thus happen to a lot of players... This is gambling at the first place, sometimes we win many times, sometimes not. That's how it works. If we will talk about the probability, we have lower chance of winning over the house.

Hmmm... I am curious... What do you actually mean of "games played"?

[BenCodie]

I am usually one to advocate for the high potential for casinos to be unfair and unjust in any way that they can get away with. However, this is a pretty weak case. Posting your statistics of wins/losses with no inclusion of balance movements or the amount won in those wins, bet size, etc, renders the whole post useless. Without sufficient data, no one will believe or take your claim seriously. In case you aren't aware as well, slots generally have the worst house edge out of all other games, so you can't be surprised with these results.

[Jawhead999]

I think beginner accounts are not easy to trust here because you might make false accusations to bring down certain casinos, so that's why everyone won't believe you here, but when you play gambling then you lose it doesn't seem worth it if you drop the name of the casino let alone insult the name of the casino certain. be mature and accept defeat, when you gamble you should already know the risks. 

@OP accused the casino because of stupid reason without a proof which is clear no one will believe him. This is different with someone accuse a casino with a proof, although he can give many proofs but he don't want to admit if he was broke the casino terms, and then it's all about conflict words vs words.

@OP shit can happen, even it looks unfair to you, but if you can verify every of your bets, you can't argue anymore.

[Coin_trader]

Provably fair doesn’t mean making you always a winner, you’re in a gambling and here there’s no guaranteed profit. Losing the money can’t tell the site a scam, not unless you have valid proof then we might support your claim.

Unfortunately, you are saying this because you didn’t win on that site, and that’s sad that you still think gambling as a way of making profit, which in reality its too risky.

I think his concern is more on the significant difference of the number of losses to the win on his bets which is ironic because he is using a slot game an example that has a very random winning percentage that no one here can predict how slot games code really work.

I experience more terrible result than that on a high volatility slots by hacksaw, nolimit and one touch. It burns me 50$ for a tons of 0.1$ spin while winning only 2$ as highest profit on that total spin. Game like slot is very unpredictable, OP is dumb enough to conclude that the casino is slot with that result on a slot game. Slot players will strongly disagree on this thread.

[CryptSafe]

Hi, i tried this casino i found here in bitcointalk forum,

i signed up, made a deposit and tried to play to a slot....

results shown in casino statistics:

Total game played:  370
Total loss : 330
Total wins: 38

now im asking myself: how do the call this "provably fair?"
let me give you a little advice, stop playing to this S***, all online casino will
only cost you money an time, you will never win a dime in these places, and if you win,
you will lose it next time (doubled)..all games are programmatically set to steal your money...
they are not rigged by casino, there is no need to do it, they already born this way, directly
from the software company...period


Good Luck

OP, definitely, in every game, there must be a winner and there must be a loser. Therefore, you must be prepared to face whatever the outcome is irrespective of what the stake is that is why it is called a provably fair game.

Do not forget that the main aim of every organization is to make profit. So if  you claim the gambling 
organization design softwares to favor them I have no  doubt over it so you should expect it because that is the main aim of organizations to make profit.