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June 21, 2023, 03:54:40 PM |
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first of all, are u doing arbitrage trading or just pure trading on one exchange following price from global exchange. Since most arbit trade is hard nowadays because the fee and block confirmation taking long before it can get confirmation especially bitcoin.
and if you have annualized return above 50% is totally great most of bank can only give you 5%-7% in one year so 50% is totally better don't be greed 50% is more than enough in my opinion
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June 21, 2023, 07:34:47 PM |
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As long as your capital is large, a 50% annual return is acceptable to me. If you only have a tiny amount of money, it's not worth it. Let's assume you put $100 in and make $50 profit in a year; you're profitable, but it's never enough because it took several months to earn that profit, which is why it depends on your capital. However, we have different thoughts and perspectives on this, because for some, $100 is a large sum, while for others, it is a small amount of money.
An annual return of 50% is good enough for you to experience losses. However, depending on the capital you use, the greater the capital you use, 50% will be a pretty good profit. for example when you use $ 10k capital and you will get $ 5k in a year. But if your capital is small it will not mean anything. Actually crypto trading for the year can have more than 100% profit if you trade consistently and always get profits. you need to increase those profits gradually.
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June 21, 2023, 11:48:01 PM |
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first of all, are u doing arbitrage trading or just pure trading on one exchange following price from global exchange. Since most arbit trade is hard nowadays because the fee and block confirmation taking long before it can get confirmation especially bitcoin.
and if you have annualized return above 50% is totally great most of bank can only give you 5%-7% in one year so 50% is totally better don't be greed 50% is more than enough in my opinion
How about in forex? Getting 5-10% monthly is already hard and its not really that bad on having that 50% income or growth on a year which i could say that it is really that something considerable.Most likely people would really be that too conservative when it comes to risk management which i would say that it would really be that considered to be good. Take that general rules which profit is profit. As long you would be green then it would be considered to be good but as much as possible then it would be ideal that you should really be that trying out to upgrade your risk factor so that you could possibly be able to gain more in annual basis which it is really it is really that better than earning up money through sitting idle with your money on a bank.
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June 22, 2023, 07:54:09 AM |
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I remember that at some point in the year 2017, specifically in the fourth quarter, arbitrage was very profitable. The price difference between the price in most platforms and in Korea was more than 30%, and thus safety from the risks of volatility even if the withdrawal was delayed, but at the present time, arbitrage is unlikely to be profitable Because the price differences are not more than 3%.
Most platforms now ask to wait until the first confirmation, and you will not be able to withdraw until after 3 confirmations, which means an average of 30 minutes before the completion of the withdrawal process and 40 minutes of the success of the entire process with the withdrawal fees, in these 40 minutes the change of 3% may have reached the stage of withdrawal Therefore, you may not make a profit.
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June 22, 2023, 09:21:31 AM |
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How about in forex? Getting 5-10% monthly is already hard and its not really that bad on having that 50% income or growth on a year which i could say that it is really that something considerable.Most likely people would really be that too conservative when it comes to risk management which i would say that it would really be that considered to be good. Take that general rules which profit is profit. As long you would be green then it would be considered to be good but as much as possible then it would be ideal that you should really be that trying out to upgrade your risk factor so that you could possibly be able to gain more in annual basis which it is really it is really that better than earning up money through sitting idle with your money on a bank.
yeah I mean the OP is really good at this point can earn 50% per year its about ~4% per month. I mean greed is part of human but those are good. anyway why you discussed about forex ? the op only mention crypto I mean forex stock or crypto is considered as a high-risk investment so growing more than 5% is totally good even tho some people outhere can made more than that
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June 22, 2023, 04:04:44 PM |
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In this current depression? If I do make above 50% annualized return, am successful and a millionaire. No jokes. I know half a full white collar boys whom I hung out with who don't make this. Let alone myself trading crypto or stocks with such a return in one year?
If I find myself in this position with such a realization, i know that my effort in learning and being consistent no matter how much I played, paid off. A wise business person would increase the investment capital by 20% , cut expenditures, become more focused and decisive and watch the margin returns double up within a 5year duration. Infact, I at this stage would just tour the Asian continent with my hubby for a whole year, knowing am a prospective billionaire in the making.
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@findnjm I think you are doing extraordinarily good with the returns of 50% which sounds like too good to be true. One thing that I have learnt from my experience is that never believe anything that is too good to be true. I never thought arbitraging can give such a huge return because I have tried it myself few years back and the returns were very very minimal. So if you are making such huge returns then it's probably good for you. Keep making money share your trades if you want us to believe you.
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it's already good since many are instead lossing in their annualized return. I think if you can have some consistent return at that rate you could simply just increase your investment or make some compounding to your investment in general then you will consistently make good profits but honestly keeping the consistencies across your career of trading and investing is the most difficult thing ever. you just don't know how much your annualized return will be, but i'm sure everyone has their own strategies that gonna make them profit if they're serious.
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June 23, 2023, 02:38:00 AM |
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it's already good since many are instead lossing in their annualized return. I think if you can have some consistent return at that rate you could simply just increase your investment or make some compounding to your investment in general then you will consistently make good profits but honestly keeping the consistencies across your career of trading and investing is the most difficult thing ever. you just don't know how much your annualized return will be, but i'm sure everyone has their own strategies that gonna make them profit if they're serious.
Yes, it's not that easy to get consistent returns and maybe it takes a very long process, finding the right strategy also requires a process, the most important thing is keep learning and do your best.
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June 23, 2023, 02:52:14 AM |
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Anyway, what I'm wondering is if these advantages are also attractive to non-Korean global investors. The returns are not bad, but I feel passive and foolish doing this alone in my room. I've been doing this by myself for three years, and now I want to expand, and I'm always thinking that there are more opportunities if we collaborate globally. In a world where scammers are setting up sites and scamming investors, why can't I create an arbitrage system that makes real trades and generates consistent profits?
Do you guys think I have a good chance? Or is this just an uninteresting story? I've been thinking about this a lot myself, so I'd like to see what the global forum thinks.
Thanks for reading this long post.
FYI, Your capital is too huge to complain for that kind of return. Someone might be enjoying greater than 1000% return but most of them has low capital that makes easier to enter to much more risky trades. 59% for just doing a safe arbitrage trading is not bad because there’s only a minimal risk involved compared when you are on real time trading of assets. You are doing good since your profit is consistent since your capital is high compared to average traders that trading crypto. Don't look on the percentage but rather on the amount because that's the most important thing on trading.
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Yes, it's not that easy to get consistent returns and maybe it takes a very long process, finding the right strategy also requires a process, the most important thing is keep learning and do your best.
If your annualized return is constantly above 50%, it can be considered a remarkable performance in trading or business. Such high returns show that your investment strategy has been successful in generating specific profits. However, it's important to evaluate your performance by placing your targets in context with the market and your investment goals. I think it will be better to share your techniques with others for their benefit. Additionally, compare your returns to relevant benchmarks, diversify your investment, and take a risk assessment for the future. When assessing investment success, long-term consistency should also be taken into account.
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June 24, 2023, 01:14:12 PM |
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I'm free from the risk of price fluctuations. If the price of Bitcoin drops to $1k, I'll still make money. As liquidity and volatility increase, so does the premium differential, which opens up more opportunities.
If you are already up in profit this year with 59% on your investment and you are able to still make your steady trade despite the volatility of the market or fluctuation, why thinking of expounding to bring in more people. This is my area of doubt because most traders who profit don't have need to get more people to share from their profit except they are only interested to sell some signal to them or ask to raise money from them.
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June 24, 2023, 02:05:35 PM |
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yeah I mean the OP is really good at this point can earn 50% per year its about ~4% per month. I mean greed is part of human but those are good. anyway why you discussed about forex ? the op only mention crypto I mean forex stock or crypto is considered as a high-risk investment so growing more than 5% is totally good even tho some people outhere can made more than that
But the risk of Crypto investment is higher than Forex. Profits above 50% or losses below -70% for the crypto market are common, but let's see how the volatility in Forex, it is quite small and unlike in crypto. For risk, of course, all investments have risks. Earning approximately 4% per month in crypto and that is stable is also extraordinary. But there will be opportunities to earn more when the market is bullish and be wary of the bear market because it will take all the profits earned. How much profit is earned must be balanced with good management so that profits can remain safe.
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June 24, 2023, 05:12:18 PM |
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You better continue it to get even bigger profits this year. In the following years, the profit may be even greater, especially if there is an increase in the market or many potential coins can increase.
And there is no need to sell signals to others because our focus will be reduced and we may miss the opportunity to trade. In addition, it is difficult to arrange everything according to what we want. So it's better to focus on finding more profits from trading.
But if you still want to continue what's on your mind, it's up to you. We can only advise you and then it is your choice.
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June 25, 2023, 03:03:05 PM |
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First of all, I just advise you not to repeat this format of your posting that there is a big space gap between each sentence you type here in the explanations. Now, based on your story, I see that you have trading skills according to your experience there in Korea, right?
and accumulated an income of around 429k$ in 3 years. It means you are a rich person, that amount you got from trading is no joke. If you were able to make money on the Korean exchange, I think you can also do it on the crypto exchange, as long as you remember that the volatility here on Bitcoin or cryptocurrency is more aggressive than on the Korean exchange. And you should be prepared for the risk level that you can face here.
Yeah because it was hard to read his post lol. But moving on, indeed he have a trading skill because if he doesn't, I don't think he have something to brag here. An income of $429k for 3 years seems a life changing amount already for the most of us poor but he said it was only a 50% return of his investment which might show that he was a rich person. The Korean exchange he was talking about there is Upbit which was also dealing with cryptos, so there is no need for us to warn him about the hazards of cryptos because he already know it. Cryptos might look riskier than other tradable assets but cryptos are only more rewarding. Maybe if he trade on a different market his, gains are going to be lower than 50%.
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June 26, 2023, 12:39:29 AM |
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You better continue it to get even bigger profits this year. In the following years, the profit may be even greater, especially if there is an increase in the market or many potential coins can increase.
And there is no need to sell signals to others because our focus will be reduced and we may miss the opportunity to trade. In addition, it is difficult to arrange everything according to what we want. So it's better to focus on finding more profits from trading.
But if you still want to continue what's on your mind, it's up to you. We can only advise you and then it is your choice.
There is a reason money managers exist, it is true you can use your own capital and trade the markets this way and obtain high profits with your trading strategy, however by getting clients and trade on their behalf then even if the fee you charge is on the low side you can increase your profits significantly with no increase on the risks you are taking. So it make sense the OP wants to do something like this, unfortunately it is difficult that people are going to believe in him, as the profits are very high and the OP does not seem to have any previous experience doing something like this.
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...The returns are not bad, but I feel passive and foolish doing this alone in my room. I've been doing this by myself for three years, and now I want to expand, and I'm always thinking that there are more opportunities if we collaborate globally...
That is, you are not satisfied with the profit received for 3 years, which is almost half a million dollars, and you decided to create a team to get even more profit together? For me, it becomes like an impending fraud on your part, since I do not believe in your altruism.
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June 26, 2023, 11:34:48 AM |
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Anyway, what I'm wondering is if these advantages are also attractive to non-Korean global investors. The returns are not bad, but I feel passive and foolish doing this alone in my room. I've been doing this by myself for three years, and now I want to expand, and I'm always thinking that there are more opportunities if we collaborate globally. In a world where scammers are setting up sites and scamming investors, why can't I create an arbitrage system that makes real trades and generates consistent profits?
How does making that amount of money as you claim passive and foolish in doing it from within the domain of your room where you’ve got comfort and no problems? I thinks it an issue at all and you could always create time for recreation and enjoyment of a days work. Can the above in OP still count as trading? Taking advantage of the price difference between exchanges. It’s interesting the concerns you’ve got in trying to globalize your strategy to this but, how soon before some one gets scammed? Don’t you think over leveraging this would bring about discovery and in time, correction of the exploited loophole and eventually the lose of peoples asset in a global scale as well.
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June 26, 2023, 12:02:59 PM |
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first of all, are u doing arbitrage trading or just pure trading on one exchange following price from global exchange. Since most arbit trade is hard nowadays because the fee and block confirmation taking long before it can get confirmation especially bitcoin.
and if you have annualized return above 50% is totally great most of bank can only give you 5%-7% in one year so 50% is totally better don't be greed 50% is more than enough in my opinion
Getting 50% annual returns on arbitrage trading is really good and I would call it unbelievable. I wish OP can guide us in more details on how he gain such good returns on arbitrage trading and which platforms he uses. Getting this much return from simple cryptocurrencies trading is difficult and getting the results through arbitrage trading is even more difficult. Strange he is getting such good returns and still asking us if he is doing good 😊
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