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June 22, 2023, 02:29:20 PM
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You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.

All of this happens in the brain... and this can cause long-term addiction.. like being addicted to drugs or alcohol. I had a family member that was addicted to alcohol and the psychologist said, it was a sickness. (self inflicted .... but still a sickness)

These people need help, even if they brought it on themselves.  Sad

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June 22, 2023, 02:55:45 PM
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

As far as I know, gamblers who are addicted usually don't think long ahead, they are usually short minded and tend to solve their problems with violence. In some cases, they become more aggressive and are willing to hurt those around them, if these people stand up to them and call gambling bad.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Usually they will not think about the feelings of the people around them. They tend to only think about themselves and their gambling. These addicts don't even have a sense of remorse for the actions they take which can harm not only them, but also the people around them.

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June 22, 2023, 03:27:21 PM
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

As far as I know, gamblers who are addicted usually don't think long ahead, they are usually short minded and tend to solve their problems with violence. In some cases, they become more aggressive and are willing to hurt those around them, if these people stand up to them and call gambling bad.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Usually they will not think about the feelings of the people around them. They tend to only think about themselves and their gambling. These addicts don't even have a sense of remorse for the actions they take which can harm not only them, but also the people around them.

Gambling addicts only want to fulfill their desire to gamble. They only want to feel satisfied and follow their urge to bet regardless of the possible results. They gamble with no direction, no target goal, no restrictions, and no fear, therefore they aren't disturbed by the results of their actions. They are also not concern about the feelings of people around them because if yes, it will be easy for them to stop and quit. Gambling addiction is an emotional condition that needs a professional help so advices or even the negative effects of their actions will not affect them anymore.
I think those who are just starting to fall for gambling addiction would still be able to find remorse about how their wrong decisions would affect them but it could only drag them to the worse situation of falling more into addiction.
I agree that gambling addicts are blinded to the long term effect because what they want is just to enjoy their present gambling activity.
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June 22, 2023, 04:23:17 PM
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You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.  
The lack of self-control which leads to seeking dopamine at all costs must be common to every addicted gamblers, but the narcissist trait isn't. It will really depend on the personality of each gambler if they feel remorse after all or not. Many addicts are good people who just can't control themselves.

They don't want to hurt and cause damage to others, so they feel depressed after they act wrongly, while the dangerous ones just feel like the whole society exists to serve them, to supply their needs and demands, so right after they do something harmful, they already start planning their next wrongdoing, until they are busted and imprisioned for the good and safety of the society.

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June 22, 2023, 04:36:44 PM
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The lack of self-control which leads to seeking dopamine at all costs must be common to every addicted gamblers, but the narcissist trait isn't. It will really depend on the personality of each gambler if they feel remorse after all or not. Many addicts are good people who just can't control themselves.

They don't want to hurt and cause damage to others, so they feel depressed after they act wrongly, while the dangerous ones just feel like the whole society exists to serve them, to supply their needs and demands, so right after they do something harmful, they already start planning their next wrongdoing, until they are busted and imprisioned for the good and safety of the society.
I think the gambler you are talking about is classified as a compulsive gambler. They are no longer able to control themselves so they keep repeating the same mistakes, so such an addiction cannot be overcome easily. Basically compulsive gamblers are almost the same as those who abuse drugs, so that their addiction can only be handled by experts because they are not only financially disturbed, but also mentally disturbed.

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June 22, 2023, 04:52:15 PM
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
In the case of addictive gambling, they no longer think about the actions and other effects they receive from gambling. But rather think about hallucinations to get big wins from the gambling they do, so that their mindset shifts to the verge of uncertainty because it is related to psychology.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Regret will come later when they lose everything they have, I think human instincts are there and they can feel how themselves and others feel from the effects of the irresponsible gambling that they live. It's just that sometimes they are difficult to control because of the influence of gambling addiction that has been embedded in their minds.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Initially all gamblers feel conscious of the actions they are doing, but because the habit is done repeatedly it makes them addicted and difficult to control. There are some gamblers who are victims of other people at first, but after the addiction is no longer able to be controlled, they will try to make other people their victims.

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June 22, 2023, 04:54:17 PM
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You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.

All of this happens in the brain... and this can cause long-term addiction.. like being addicted to drugs or alcohol. I had a family member that was addicted to alcohol and the psychologist said, it was a sickness. (self inflicted .... but still a sickness)

These people need help, even if they brought it on themselves.  Sad
I myself felt that impulsiveness but not in gambling yes it is very hard to stop and also if you are not aware that you are being impulsive you will do anything without thinking the consequences of it, addiction is very hard to deal with on your own it really needs help by professionals with meds and therapy and of course your support system.
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June 23, 2023, 01:57:59 AM
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You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.

All of this happens in the brain... and this can cause long-term addiction.. like being addicted to drugs or alcohol. I had a family member that was addicted to alcohol and the psychologist said, it was a sickness. (self inflicted .... but still a sickness)

These people need help, even if they brought it on themselves.  Sad
Addiction to gambling definitely exists and is always experienced by anyone who starts gambling.
Gambling addiction is also a consequence of what they do in this industry so there must be awareness and concern to minimize the consequences that are getting worse.
Even though it is difficult to understand and care about the risks or consequences of gambling, at least if there is awareness they can always think clearly and have limits when betting.

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June 23, 2023, 02:09:36 AM
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Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
This is how a gambling addict starts to harm people around them. They start to lie and steal from people that are close to them.

1. Yes they do, but in the end, it is the addiction that wins. They think that "it won't hurt if they don't know". They end up thinking that they will win and will be able to return what they stole (or doesn't even bother to and use it to fund his future gambling activities).

2. Maybe, maybe not. But most of them does live in guilt (hence there are people that puts an end to their own life).

3. Some are yes. They would take as much advantage they can. Sometimes they even use tactics such as manipulating someone to fund their activities.

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June 23, 2023, 02:20:46 AM
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Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing. A middle class man only gambles, in order to make some extra income for its family. It’s very rare that any middle class person gets addicted to gambling, as he won’t have sufficient money to gamble more, if he is facing losses. Yes gambling addiction really affects the family, as people here sometimes gamble the money, that is needed for daily necessities. They also become mentally unstable and hence bids farewell from the responsibilities that they need to make for their families.

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June 23, 2023, 02:40:15 AM
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The reality would be very simple in that the longer term effects are being ignored in favor of the short term high.   Like any similar fixation that would lead to negatives eventually but immediately if you feel better its chasing a high that is causing the problem.   This behaviour can be fixed but is hard to do all by yourself as the brain forms bad habits.   Care is a difficult word to classify this with as the person is maladjusted purely to the short term, underlying causes can be multiple like grief or poor health and that might be the best way to turn someone around by treating those negative events in their life.
Those who gamble for the long term at least experience the impact by losing and losing money at the gambling table. They will not be aware of what they have done because the impact they feel will not be immediately visible. But the loss will surely come to them and will show clearly in the long term.

And psychologically, this also molds them into someone who doesn't care about other things around them so they won't know what's happening. This level of concern will decrease when they are too deep in gambling and all they have in mind is gambling. They may also experience mental disorders if the level of gambling addiction is very high because they don't know how to stop.

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June 23, 2023, 03:13:14 AM
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Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing. A middle class man only gambles, in order to make some extra income for its family. It’s very rare that any middle class person gets addicted to gambling, as he won’t have sufficient money to gamble more, if he is facing losses. Yes gambling addiction really affects the family, as people here sometimes gamble the money, that is needed for daily necessities. They also become mentally unstable and hence bids farewell from the responsibilities that they need to make for their families.
I doubt this cuz I have friends who are so addicted to gambling but will never lament any time he loses money on gambling, yet he's not rich. U necessarily must be rich before getting addicted. Gambling a game of fun but seems more than just a game to some people. But sometimes, people that play it for fun earns up winning more than people that a deeply addicted. That is because, whenever u do something for the joy and love of doing it rather than as a result of depression, u easily get results. People that gamble are bordered with the consequences yet will still try more chances to see if they could win. To this kind of people, gambling has become a secret society of no going back ( they have no choice)

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June 23, 2023, 03:18:40 AM
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Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing.

That's true, it's common with their calibre all because they have the enough time to gamble and also have enough money to spend on gambling, we rarely see the negative effect on th all because they can use money to avoid any form of public embarrassment while those that doesn't have money get the most disadvantages of it because they can't cover up with some things because of lack of money and they remain being affected for gambling addiction.
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June 23, 2023, 03:51:15 AM
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Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing.

That's true, it's common with their calibre all because they have the enough time to gamble and also have enough money to spend on gambling, we rarely see the negative effect on th all because they can use money to avoid any form of public embarrassment while those that doesn't have money get the most disadvantages of it because they can't cover up with some things because of lack of money and they remain being affected for gambling addiction.

slightly disagree with this because from some experience and research I am not only rich and have lots of money who can be addicted to gambling but middle class people are also more often addicted to gambling.
like some people i know he was a worker somewhere on less than $200 and he was always gambling with a $100 budget hoping this money could be doubled to be more. but unfortunately this method is wrong and the money is lost in gambling and he feels like chasing it continuously and finally becomes addicted.

so that addiction is not only for the rich, even among the middle class someone can be addicted because of certain problems, such as chasing after losing money in gambling.

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June 23, 2023, 04:41:08 AM
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If those who become addicted to gambling had thought about their actions, they would not have become addicted to gambling. When a gambler makes a profit in gambling, he forgets all past losses and resumes gambling with renewed vigour. Again, when the gambler faces a big loss, even though he feels temporarily remorseful, he cannot bring himself out of gambling. After abstaining from gambling for a while, when the betting capital is at hand, he forgets his past regrets and becomes addicted to gambling again.

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June 23, 2023, 06:22:10 AM
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There is nothing to think about once you become a gambling addict, your sense of thinking will be shut down, and the only thing left in your brain is when you will make it with gambling, you will keep dreaming about how you will buy a mansion and Lamborghini.

If you put in the strength to change a gambler, you could get somewhere for a few days and weeks, and once you leave them alone, they will start dreaming of the possibility that they could win a shot, a single shot will turn into 100s of a failed attempt and money would have been spent too many times already.

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June 23, 2023, 11:27:37 AM
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That is the most common mindset for gamblers when they are looking playing because why not? Everybody wanted to win and that's everybody's goal, there's no right or wrong about that. It's just that their mindset lacks something, it's the mindset to know the boundaries where a line shouldn't be crossed at any cost and that is the time to call it a day.

Without this, you will have no certain goal other than making money and sooner or later, you will find yourself chasing for the money and instead of making money, you'll find yourself in a spot where you didn't wanted yourself to be in as that will too late anymore.
It's not wrong to have a mindset like that but they should be able to think that what they think is wrong. If only they knew the limits, they would not have lost their minds and would have gambled what they could afford. And when they can control themselves and stay within their limits, they will not chase money or want to try to make money. But when they are already in a gambling addiction, they will not think about such things because they don't care about anything else. They don't even know anything is happening to the people around them because they are only focused on their actions.

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June 24, 2023, 10:07:44 AM
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The scenario you paint unveils the profound lows to which gambling addiction can plunge people, highlighting it's more than an individual concern - it's a societal challenge.

As to your queries, they're subjects of heated debate in addiction research. Some suggest that addicts, fueled by the compelling urge to gamble, may lose sight of the extensive implications, blurring ethical guidelines.

Guilt infers recognition of harm done, often unclear to the gambler. And regarding your final question, it's crucial to acknowledge that addicts aren't emotionless; they're ensnared in an addiction cycle that may seem invincible.

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Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Of course they do. And you call them successful gamblers. They are those who can get profits out of their gambling. In contrary, Those who don't are just losers. Those are the people who gamble because they're addicts, bored, and cannot control themselves. And yes I would say that gambling addicts never take consideration or any second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them. They just act on something impulsively. They don't know how to embrace risk or even cannot measure the risk they are trying to put in the table. And that's just awful. Not only they are making their own life miserable but also the people around them are being affected of their own addiction.


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