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How many houses do you have? If you only have 1 house, it is not a good idea to sell a house for Bitcoin. It is only an innovative idea if your idea doesn't bother your life. When it makes you live without a house, I think it is a careless idea. You must know that you don't force yourself to invest in Bitcoin, just invest with the amount of money you have. Selling a house means you have no safe money for investment, you can't risk your life by selling your house for Bitcoin. Sure, Bitcoin is a good investment and we know we are heading Bitcoin halving. But we don't know when Bitcoin price to increase the price as you expect. Anyway, are you sure that you have enough knowledge to invest in Bitcoin? And are you ready to be patiently waiting for Bitcoin achieve the price you expect? You must understand that there will be many FUDs before we reach bullrun season. If you are a typical of impatient person and easily panic about the FUDs, you may fail to invest in Bitcoin.
until now, your criticism has been constructive for the evolution of my project. in no way am I going to care about the fud because I spent most of my life receiving satoshi's in bitcoin for free and they told me I was crazy and we who use this forum throughout history have been criticized as a bunch of adventurers and we are here discussing a possible eco system that I intend to develop. if I am here it is because I respect everyone's opinion.
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We may give you some suggestions but you've got the final decision to make, i can't advise someone sells a house all because he wants to invest on a volatile cryptocurrency, the option he's going for is not bad because it's bitcoin but consider selling a house to me for bitcoin investment is like taking more risk that can landed him to shame especially when that's the only one he has and lives in, but if he has many others left, the. It's not a bad decision.
We understand your concerns regarding the risk involved when selling a home to invest in a volatile cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. Indeed, it is a decision that requires care and consideration, especially when dealing with a single, prime property. Not only the risk that you might be dealing with in the future here, but it could be also the tax implications. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's capital gains tax which is when you sell your house, you may be subject to capital gains tax on any profit you make from the sale. The amount of tax owed will depend on factors such as the length of time you owned the property or your tax bracket. I think, asking for information here isn't helpful to you if you really need to sell your house because each of us here has our own decision and now we're talking about your side. It's better if you will hire a professional in this field to get better advice. I understand your concerns regarding the potential risks and tax implications associated with selling a home to invest in a volatile cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. It is true that capital gains tax may apply when selling a property, and the specific amount will depend on factors such as the length of ownership and applicable tax regulations. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kuASaMr7pksNvKrsSZYawp3-BH2xIy8n/view?usp=drive_linkplease read this sketch ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?
Hello, Bitcointalk community!
Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?
The idea is simple: instead of selling my house for traditional cash, I am interested in receiving bitcoins as payment. After all, cryptocurrencies have been gaining prominence in the financial world, and many believe that their value will only increase. Could this be the perfect opportunity to diversify my portfolio and benefit from the growth potential of digital currencies?
However, when considering this innovative approach, it is also important to evaluate the risks involved. After all, we are talking about a P2P transaction, without the presence of traditional intermediaries such as real estate brokers and lawyers. This means that trust between the parties is essential to ensure a successful negotiation.
Another point to consider is the volatility of the cryptocurrency market. The value of bitcoin can fluctuate significantly over short periods of time, which can affect the value of the property involved in the transaction. This volatility can bring additional uncertainty and challenges for both parties involved.
I want to open up space for discussion and exchange of ideas. What do you think about this proposal to exchange a house for bitcoins? Do you see significant opportunities or risks? What precautions do you suggest to minimize possible problems? Please share your opinions and experiences, as it is through dialogue that we can explore all perspectives of this approach.
Let's debate and find out whether this is a revolutionary idea or just a risky venture. I look forward to hearing your opinions!
"Would there be any altcoins with an ecosystem or some intermediary that makes the documents with digital signatures that can guarantee for both parties?"
Guys please everyone we are talking to we are in a tab within altcoins I am writing about a project idea and I know I am receiving criticism but I am answering my own question because in the end I asked if there is any "eco system" I'm discussing it regardless of bitcoins there are usdt, busd and other currencies that are a little more stable I'm talking about a real estate company that not only works with property sales, but also seasonal rentals I'm using the entire eco system and I'm here to find a solution together. There is neither token nor nothing yet the name is an assumption.https://imgur.com/G7pCxNUhttps://imgur.com/a6uRt1ghttps://imgur.com/5n3RJbZhttps://imgur.com/GqBn7I8https://imgur.com/qF3Mzpshttps://imgur.com/bP0RGgRhttps://imgur.com/wlgOiV0https://imgur.com/cmFWmXdhttps://imgur.com/6x3TGRzhttps://imgur.com/AHql1SXhttps://imgur.com/ZgkmueLhttps://imgur.com/DN3Etb7https://imgur.com/2RobNJihttps://imgur.com/WscCIomhttps://imgur.com/GnbvVCKhttps://imgur.com/dA3XAkQhttps://imgur.com/L6Yrbbxhttps://imgur.com/ZBn3PNnhttps://imgur.com/GkUN8Aphttps://imgur.com/iEcxI0ehttps://imgur.com/hQw0a5shttps://imgur.com/zQonulV
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Give me your address and details about the location of the house. The moment Cirus makes an ath, I can convert all my money into btc and buy your house.
Friend we are not talking about high as we know here within this community we do not use spam and you are promoting a project here within the bitcoin talk community there is no such thing I advise you to go to the forum rules. The bitcoin talk community is serious and we do not use market speculation. I have already forwarded you to the moderator.
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[....] I'm talking about a real estate company that not only works with property sales, but also seasonal rentals I'm using the entire eco system and I'm here to find a solution together.
How would you value the sale or rental in bitcoins? I mean would you based it on the dollar or your local currencies value? If the rate is supposed to be $500 per night then you'll charge the equivalent of that in BTC? I'm asking all these because it's tough to just put a price without reference. I think you'll have more options if you accept payments in fiat and use that to buy bitcoin.
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If it is your primary address or passed down to you by your parents. I think selling is not a good choice but if it is a disposable asset like you buy and sell houses, I think it is ok since you treat bitcoin as an investment. If I'm on the situation that I need to dispose of something this valuable, I would probably sell it for cash and buy bitcoin slowly on certain prices to maximized the profits I can get when the day bitcoin became bullish again.
We have saw stories like this before and those who don't sell and is in the right mind to hold and wait for the growth, they win and make a lot of profit from the very big risk they made.
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honestly I had to read it 3 times to see if I was reading it right, I don't understand why you would take so much risk when you can do everything following the laws and be safer, and following the laws you would have to have all the documentation for your house , then you and the buyer would go with the lawyer to make the payment and change the documents to the buyer's name, and you would take the money and you could buy bitcoins little by little to avoid any problems like buying bitcoin and not getting it in your wallet or buying bitcoin using your bank card and then the exchange asks for extra documents
I'll be honest with you, in this world you shouldn't trust people too much, you say that someone buys your house using bitcoin as a payment method, how are you going to be sure that person is buying your house with clean bitcoins? what is the easiest and fastest way for scammers to launder stolen bitcoins? the answer is very simple: buy real estate with stolen bitcoins, and then when the police track the scammers' pasts they will come to you, that's why the best thing you should do is the following:
1 - sell your house only in fiat and have payment sent to your bank account
2 - buy bitcoins in small parts using your bank account, eg: today you buy 0.5 BTC and then transfer it to your wallet where you will have control of your private keys. then wait for the price to drop more and buy 0.5 BTC and transfer it to your wallet, do this until they buy the amount of bitcoin you want, it is a safer method in my opinion
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Isn't there are housing crisis these days that many investors are already realizing that properties are quite not a hedge against inflation. Well, it seems BTC is already a sure profit because there is an early break out even before the year of halving. An investor right now will have doubts about sending his BTC out of his wallet because by the time BTC goes more than $100K, he could buy 2 houses by then. One offer above says he will buy the house when his altcoin moons. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Makes sense still.
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[....] I'm talking about a real estate company that not only works with property sales, but also seasonal rentals I'm using the entire eco system and I'm here to find a solution together.
How would you value the sale or rental in bitcoins? I mean would you based it on the dollar or your local currencies value? If the rate is supposed to be $500 per night then you'll charge the equivalent of that in BTC? I'm asking all these because it's tough to just put a price without reference. I think you'll have more options if you accept payments in fiat and use that to buy bitcoin. In dollars because it is the main currency, but as the project grows, yes, we can introduce the local currency within the platform, but this is very relative if the country of origin allows access to this platform. We can also connect a price api of some dex or cex to follow the rates at that particular moment, in addition to having the platform service fee to be able to maintain dedicated vpn and etc, because I understood the fluctuations plus the trackers themselves offer these api, to follow the flow of value, if any information is missing please don't hesitate to ask me.
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Isn't there are housing crisis these days that many investors are already realizing that properties are quite not a hedge against inflation. Well, it seems BTC is already a sure profit because there is an early break out even before the year of halving. An investor right now will have doubts about sending his BTC out of his wallet because by the time BTC goes more than $100K, he could buy 2 houses by then. One offer above says he will buy the house when his altcoin moons. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Makes sense still. I don't speak bitcoins I speak regulated crypto, be it bitcoins like any other altcoin, your observation is welcome more as we talk bitcoins are rising and then falling this is normal the question is not the value of bitcoins we know that when hitting 100k many people including me, we will make a profit because we will reach resistance. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yes, it makes sense to me, my friend, but I don't quite understand what that means. I understood her ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Is a temporary home rental platform injecting altcoins its liquidity what would you tell me? Where is this airbnb-style platform with a paypal-style payment protection system, where people could pay in fiat and inject the fees into an altcoin?
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honestly I had to read it 3 times to see if I was reading it right, I don't understand why you would take so much risk when you can do everything following the laws and be safer, and following the laws you would have to have all the documentation for your house , then you and the buyer would go with the lawyer to make the payment and change the documents to the buyer's name, and you would take the money and you could buy bitcoins little by little to avoid any problems like buying bitcoin and not getting it in your wallet or buying bitcoin using your bank card and then the exchange asks for extra documents
I'll be honest with you, in this world you shouldn't trust people too much, you say that someone buys your house using bitcoin as a payment method, how are you going to be sure that person is buying your house with clean bitcoins? what is the easiest and fastest way for scammers to launder stolen bitcoins? the answer is very simple: buy real estate with stolen bitcoins, and then when the police track the scammers' pasts they will come to you, that's why the best thing you should do is the following:
1 - sell your house only in fiat and have payment sent to your bank account
2 - buy bitcoins in small parts using your bank account, eg: today you buy 0.5 BTC and then transfer it to your wallet where you will have control of your private keys. then wait for the price to drop more and buy 0.5 BTC and transfer it to your wallet, do this until they buy the amount of bitcoin you want, it is a safer method in my opinion
Good observation my friend, but inside the site we can make a registration similar to KYC where we can get the data through the platform and check all the documentation so when the police hit the company we will have all the buyer's data and we can add a term and condition to the contract of the purchase that this sale is annulled. It's just an idea.
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?
Hello, Bitcointalk community!
Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?
The idea is simple: instead of selling my house for traditional cash, I am interested in receiving bitcoins as payment. After all, cryptocurrencies have been gaining prominence in the financial world, and many believe that their value will only increase. Could this be the perfect opportunity to diversify my portfolio and benefit from the growth potential of digital currencies.
First of all i would recommend that you sould definitely keep your house instead of selling it. An own house is probably the most important investment that you can make for the future because then you never have to pay rent again. This is especially important when you are older and don't work anymore. If you really want to sell your house though no matter what for whatever reason then why not just sell it for normal FIAT and then trade this mondy for BTC afterwards.
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We won't deny the fact that bitcoin is more and more present in traditional transactions these days, but looking back at the OP, think this is just a personal wish and it happens very rarely, and I think without family or friends who know crypto, it will be difficult for you to help you do that.
And moreover, no more complicated transactions, you can completely sell your house and use that money to buy btc if you want to do so, I don't want to advise you how and how to invest Because obviously you also need to have your own research to be responsible for all decisions.
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IMO, to invest safely (considering your finaces and health) requires taking calculated risks. The essence of investment is to make your self better both financially and otherwise. A good investor, in my opinion, is one who invests only what he/she can afford to loose. The question is, can you afford to loose your house? If, for example, you have ten (10) houses, assuming they have same cost, then, loosing one of the house will probably not make you feel bad because, at the least, you still have 9 left. So, as simple as it this phrase sounds: "only invest what you can afford to loose", it is a life-saving phrase. Another important one is, "Do not put all your eggs in one basket". I will advise you not trade your house unless you have many of the units, may be at least five units, then you can trade one. Just my humble opinion.
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Unnecessary risk if it's the only house you have to live and you will have to find other means to live under if you give it up.
Imo, I wouldn't ever give up basic necessities for potential profits. I'm pretty sure investment in Bitcoin at current time will yield you profits, but there are other risks including holding risk, after ledger and atomic wallet fiasco, I doubt security of wallets.
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I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins - An Innovative Idea or Unnecessary Risk?
Hello, Bitcointalk community!
Today, I bring an intriguing proposal for all of you: I am considering trading my house for some bitcoins. Yes, you read that correctly! I am exploring an innovative idea that challenges the traditional methods of real estate trading. But is this proposal a can't-miss opportunity or an unnecessary risk?
The idea is simple: instead of selling my house for traditional cash, I am interested in receiving bitcoins as payment. After all, cryptocurrencies have been gaining prominence in the financial world, and many believe that their value will only increase. Could this be the perfect opportunity to diversify my portfolio and benefit from the growth potential of digital currencies?
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We have seen stories like yours on the forum before and the risk you are taking is simply too high, now make no mistake I understand very well what you are trying to do and when we think about it logically it makes sense, but what happens is that things are never really that simple, since you are taking such a massive risk it is likely it will be incredibly difficult for you to actually hold your coins for long enough to obtain the profits you are looking for, and if you sell for a bad price this could mark your life for decades to come.
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Unnecessary risk if it's the only house you have to live and you will have to find other means to live under if you give it up.
Imo, I wouldn't ever give up basic necessities for potential profits. I'm pretty sure investment in Bitcoin at current time will yield you profits, but there are other risks including holding risk, after ledger and atomic wallet fiasco, I doubt security of wallets.
well, even when it wasn't the only home he had, it was still a bad decision. after all, people are looking to make money or pool their investment returns to buy real estate like houses, cars, or so on. However, if we sell assets for investment, it is very risky. However, it was a bad decision. it's better to keep using the money we save for investment in investing in crypto.
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Unnecessary risk if it's the only house you have to live and you will have to find other means to live under if you give it up.
Imo, I wouldn't ever give up basic necessities for potential profits. I'm pretty sure investment in Bitcoin at current time will yield you profits, but there are other risks including holding risk, after ledger and atomic wallet fiasco, I doubt security of wallets.
well, even when it wasn't the only home he had, it was still a bad decision. after all, people are looking to make money or pool their investment returns to buy real estate like houses, cars, or so on. However, if we sell assets for investment, it is very risky. However, it was a bad decision. it's better to keep using the money we save for investment in investing in crypto. I think it's very important to make decisions wisely in order to minimize risks, which when planning to sell assets for investment of course the decision needs to be considered again, regardless of whatever it is everyone has his own decision.
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We won't deny the fact that bitcoin is more and more present in traditional transactions these days, but looking back at the OP, think this is just a personal wish and it happens very rarely, and I think without family or friends who know crypto, it will be difficult for you to help you do that.
And moreover, no more complicated transactions, you can completely sell your house and use that money to buy btc if you want to do so, I don't want to advise you how and how to invest Because obviously you also need to have your own research to be responsible for all decisions.
I agree with this position of yours my friend, but I would like you to follow the whole context typed by me to understand the context of what we are discussing here.
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Unnecessary risk if it's the only house you have to live and you will have to find other means to live under if you give it up.
Imo, I wouldn't ever give up basic necessities for potential profits. I'm pretty sure investment in Bitcoin at current time will yield you profits, but there are other risks including holding risk, after ledger and atomic wallet fiasco, I doubt security of wallets.
Hello friend I am very grateful, for you typing this way our bitcoin as any other altcoin this brings an interesting discussion for the newer ones if it is not going to take too much of your time I ask you to analyze each answer of mine and tell me your opinion. We are not only writing about bitcoins, it is worth pointing out that we are on the altcoins tab. I ask you not to look at this situation with the emotion of helping someone, but to analyze the context of what we are talking about here. thank you!
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