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Bitcoin_Arena
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June 20, 2023, 10:47:29 PM |
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Amount scammed: 0.00286600 btc/ 13176.64 LFI Payment method: bitcoin/LFI Proof of payment: https://photos.app.[Suspicious link removed]/RHXaGjC22VjuN8L2A Could you please get another way of uploading your payment proof? The link has been flagged as a suspicious link and we can't see anything. You could also include the transaction ID in text format. I know my wife was banned and she had a pretty significant withdraw that she submitted but it never processed.
Did your wife also try to exploit the bug, or hers was a normal kind of scenario until her account was blocked when she tried to withdraw? |
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butternuts25 (OP)
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June 20, 2023, 11:47:43 PM |
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The link is a screenshot of my account balance on housebets.io. I do have a transaction tx # from my initial deposit but it doesn't account for the bitcoin that I won, but I will post the tx shortly. Also, just so were clear and there is no misunderstanding, me or my wife didn't exploit any bug. As far as I'm concerned the bug wasn't exploitable unless you could generate hundreds of accounts and run some kind of automated program. I do not have the knowledge or resources to accomplish this. Thank you for bringing the link to my attention, if you happen to know a way that I could post these screen shots of my account that would be greatly appreciated.
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June 21, 2023, 03:24:19 AM |
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trying to help displaying the OP's picture I don't know what the exact exploit is, but what is commonly known is that the BTC that many people have is with more decimal digits. The easiest solution is to use the sats unit in the bet amount column. cmiiw -snip-
I should be happy that I withdrew prior to my account being frozen. was your withdrawal a pure win? |
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butternuts25 (OP)
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June 21, 2023, 06:49:14 AM |
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From what I observed while wagering bitcoin is after the reels were done spinning is that my balance would go up by $0.01 and sometimes $0.02 cents US. Sometimes I'm wagering $2.00 on one spin. Do I think that the bug played a role on whether I was going to win. No. If my math is correct (being very generous with these numbers) 200 spins × $0.02= $4.00. Wagering a modest $1.00 × 200=$200-$4.00=$196. These were not risk free bets. Its literally 2% of my average wager. Of course I'd like mine and my wife's money back, but mostly I dont like that housebets is advertising decentralization but get to do these shady practices. Housebets.io is the epitome of everything that's wrong with crypto and why retail investors are scared to invest. Thank you for posting the images
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July 05, 2023, 12:19:53 PM |
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You were not scammed. You took advantage of a bug that paid out winning bets and when you lost, returned the entire stake. As we have repeatedly stated, you withdrew profit from this exploit and we are disappointed you didn't contact the community to report this scam and get a bounty, which we gave to our more honest community members who reported it. I will flag this thread to Bitcointalk, as you accusations of being a scam are entirely unjustified.
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acroman08
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July 05, 2023, 12:47:17 PM |
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I will flag this thread to Bitcointalk, as you accusations of being a scam are entirely unjustified.
if you are hoping for this thread to be deleted, you'll be disappointed. if you think that the OP is lying, you can provide evidence that he actually exploited the bug. on your ANN thread, I saw that you said that the OP placed bets in the amount of $0.01 to exploit the bug, if it is possible and if it does not compromise security or personal information, would you mind posting your findings? |
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July 05, 2023, 02:44:55 PM |
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You were not scammed. You took advantage of a bug that paid out winning bets and when you lost, returned the entire stake. As we have repeatedly stated, you withdrew profit from this exploit and we are disappointed you didn't contact the community to report this scam and get a bounty, which we gave to our more honest community members who reported it. I will flag this thread to Bitcointalk, as you accusations of being a scam are entirely unjustified.
The scam accusation won't be deleted by the moderators, however, I would suggest you create a counteraccusation with proof that OP exploited your casino. This would make OP someone not to be trusted and a scammer. The DT members and you can then create negative feedback and a flag against OP's profile, with the link to the counteraccusation acting as a reference. I am willing to help in this if everything is done well. Once the flag is active, this is how it will appear to guests and newbies  |
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butternuts25 (OP)
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July 05, 2023, 05:44:41 PM |
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All the info I've provided are facts and you can check the images above. I've have tried settling this with housebets.io on multiple occasions with customer support and im ignored. On telegram I've been banned and im being completely rational while communicating with this team. Read the facts and judge for yourself. I deposited bitcoin and that is why im being repremended. My deposit and bitcoin history is completely irrelevant to this accusation. Your theory is simply that because I win, that I must be exploiting the system? I could not simply get lucky? Is winning not allowed in your casino. What are you really trying to say and where is your proof. If your casino has real integrity and accountability then settle your debts with the accounts you banned.
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July 06, 2023, 02:35:47 AM |
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Honestly, the OP admitted that he noticed the bug: and because of this bug which I will admit I did notice and think it was peculiar, but in no way did that $0.02 change the outcome of what was going to happen.
but despite that, he continued to play, and this is considered a violation from the casino's point of view, especially since he made the withdrawal afterwards before solving this error in the system and before freezing his account. But at the same time freezing his entire account and preventing him from accessing his balance is not the proper solution to this problem, to solve the problem honestly Housebets.io has to calculate the profits the OP got through this bug and deduct it from his balance and then allow him to withdraw the remaining balance if he wants. It is normal to freeze the account temporarily until a solution to the problem is reached, but freezing the account completely without reaching a solution is unacceptable. |
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July 06, 2023, 10:23:44 PM |
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All the info I've provided are facts and you can check the images above.
Thank you for providing all these facts, but to be honest with you, it doesn't seem that those facts a work n your favour! You said you were of the bug and you need multiple accounts to exploit it, is your wife your only relative who has a account (which was banned too) on housebets.io? Let's ignore the above, why didn't you report the bug to housebets.io? Didn't you think it is risky to continue playing on a casino that has such a critical bug? |
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July 06, 2023, 10:58:18 PM |
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You were not scammed. You took advantage of a bug that paid out winning bets and when you lost, returned the entire stake. As we have repeatedly stated, you withdrew profit from this exploit and we are disappointed you didn't contact the community to report this scam and get a bounty, which we gave to our more honest community members who reported it. I will flag this thread to Bitcointalk, as you accusations of being a scam are entirely unjustified.
I really do not think flagging this thread would make them delete this thread mate. Here is an accusation against your casino which op provided some proof and it is factual and what is expected of you to do is to present your own evidence too to counter OP accusations. Did I hear you mentioning bug? If there was actually a bug then your casino should have actually stopped the games or possibly shot down to avoid losses. It is not the fault of gamblers that your casino experienced such. What if it happens that gamblers made huge losses then would your casino be thinking of making a refund back to he gamblers? How then is it OPs fault that you suffered a bug? |
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butternuts25 (OP)
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July 06, 2023, 11:44:00 PM |
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When I noticed the bug, I attributed it to the price swings of bitcoin. Honestly a very hard bug to spot. Now ill admit I'm no novice when it comes to crypto. But when it comes to computer technology and website building and design I know nothing. Fear of being made fun of I suppose. I really try to mind my own business and stay out of the way. This bug didn't seem so critical to me. Even if I managed to spin a 1000 times it would only be between $10-$20 credit after wagering between $1k-2k.
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July 06, 2023, 11:57:57 PM |
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Let's ignore the above, why didn't you report the bug to housebets.io? Didn't you think it is risky to continue playing on a casino that has such a critical bug?
This. He could have avoided all the trouble if it was announced to the casino team, but didn't. Now about the bug, it is true that OP abused and took advantage the bug which is against the TOS of every services in the internet and subject for ban/being restricted. |
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July 07, 2023, 11:01:11 AM |
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[...] Just so were clear I was making bets in between $1.00-$2.00 US. That means if I bet $2.00 and I won nothing im only losing $1.98, and because of this bug which I will admit I did notice and think it was peculiar, but in no way did that $0.02 change the outcome of what was going to happen. [...]
You were not scammed. You took advantage of a bug that paid out winning bets and when you lost, returned the entire stake. As we have repeatedly stated, you withdrew profit from this exploit and we are disappointed you didn't contact the community to report this scam and get a bounty, which we gave to our more honest community members who reported it. I will flag this thread to Bitcointalk, as you accusations of being a scam are entirely unjustified.
I don't understand how exactly the bug works. According to OP, at least from what I get it, if he bet $2.00 and lose the bet, he'll lose $1.98, but according to HousebetsIo, he played risk free, which I perceived as if he bet $2.00 and lose the bet, his balance will still be exacatly the same? Which one is it? I think this should be clarified as it brought quite a magnitude to the case. |
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July 07, 2023, 11:18:35 AM Merited by fillippone (1) |
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Let's ignore the above, why didn't you report the bug to housebets.io? Didn't you think it is risky to continue playing on a casino that has such a critical bug?
Dude, the bug helps him get back 0.02 USD when OP is losing, it's not a lot of money but considering that you can exploit it to your benefit, why report it? We all know why OP haven't reported the bug, don't be naive. Also, it's a critical bug only to the casino not to the player so OP will continue to play. |
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I don't understand how exactly the bug works. According to OP, at least from what I get it, if he bet $2.00 and lose the bet, he'll lose $1.98, but according to HousebetsIo, he played risk free, which I perceived as if he bet $2.00 and lose the bet, his balance will still be exacatly the same? Which one is it?
I think this should be clarified as it brought quite a magnitude to the case.
the bug was the gambler's account will be credited $0.02 when they lose a bet. From what I understand it doesn't matter how much the bet is, as long as the bet it is a loss, a $0.02 will be credited to the gambler's account. that's why the OP said when he bets $2 he will lose $1.98 because the $0.02 will be credited to his account because of the bug. also, according to the OP, the bug only works if you are betting using BTC. as for the Housebet.io claiming the OP is betting "risk-free", Housebet.io claimed on their ANN thread that the OP is betting with $0.01, so when OP's bet ends up losing, his account will be credited $0.02 because of the bug. |
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July 07, 2023, 05:47:36 PM |
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I don't understand how exactly the bug works. According to OP, at least from what I get it, if he bet $2.00 and lose the bet, he'll lose $1.98, but according to HousebetsIo, he played risk free, which I perceived as if he bet $2.00 and lose the bet, his balance will still be exacatly the same? Which one is it?
I think this should be clarified as it brought quite a magnitude to the case.
the bug was the gambler's account will be credited $0.02 when they lose a bet. From what I understand it doesn't matter how much the bet is, as long as the bet it is a loss, a $0.02 will be credited to the gambler's account. that's why the OP said when he bets $2 he will lose $1.98 because the $0.02 will be credited to his account because of the bug. also, according to the OP, the bug only works if you are betting using BTC. as for the Housebet.io claiming the OP is betting "risk-free", Housebet.io claimed on their ANN thread that the OP is betting with $0.01, so when OP's bet ends up losing, his account will be credited $0.02 because of the bug. So in other words, no matter what the outcome of the bet OP played, he'll be credited with some BTC? To OP and to HousebetsIo, can you both confirm this? Further, to HousebetsIo, if you can provide the screenshot of OP's betting history containing this allegation of cheating [suppose it didn't perceived as a breach of privacy and/or both you and OP are comfortable sharing it] it'll work good to completing our puzzle. Nonetheless, if what's above is true, that OP played a game where he'll never lose funds, be it he got a losing or winning bet, then I think the best outcome for both party right now is for HouseBets to return OP's deposit [without the winning] and both of you take separate way. Sounds unfair for the platform, some might argue, but I'll say it's a well deserved path as OP indirectly point out a bug. While those who think it's unfair for the OP because OP gain some "honest" amount through his winning, well, OP cheated too, so the middle way is to remove everything altogether |
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July 07, 2023, 06:16:20 PM |
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My bets were between $1-$2 US. Same is also true for my wife. I consent to displaying any info they need to post, preferably a link to the site so we can verify authenticity. Dont understand why my integrity is in question. I've repeated this over and over. I didn't exploit a bug, I had no malicious intent. Me and my wife are being banned from a online casino because we didn't report a bug... housebets.io has a good whitepaper and a solid protocol. I am content with the fact that I more than likely will not get what me and my wife have in our accounts. The way that housebets.io justified banning people is wrong and I'd like to see some accountability. I tried explaining this to the mod in telegram (porchy-CEO) and I was promptly muted and banned from the telegram once users chimed in and agreed I was right.
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holydarkness
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July 07, 2023, 06:38:50 PM |
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My bets were between $1-$2 US. Same is also true for my wife. I consent to displaying any info they need to post, preferably a link to the site so we can verify authenticity. Dont understand why my integrity is in question. I've repeated this over and over. I didn't exploit a bug, I had no malicious intent. Me and my wife are being banned from a online casino because we didn't report a bug... housebets.io has a good whitepaper and a solid protocol. I am content with the fact that I more than likely will not get what me and my wife have in our accounts. The way that housebets.io justified banning people is wrong and I'd like to see some accountability. I tried explaining this to the mod in telegram (porchy-CEO) and I was promptly muted and banned from the telegram once users chimed in and agreed I was right.
HousebetsIo, as OP is locked from his account and can't provide any screenshot, you got his permission as stated above to post his betting history and other info you deemed necessary for this case on both of your and his behalf. I urged you to provide this so the community can get a better understanding of the magnitude of the bug brought to you and how much OP "stole" from you, as well as providing proof that OP ever [or never] bet $0.01 or $0.02 thus, the risk-free allegation. For OP, my apology, I misunderstood what acroman08 tried to explain to me before. I understand correctly now that whatever outcome you have on your --and your wife's-- bet, you'll still get some "rakeback"? In other words, its either you got a winning and doubled your money, or you got your initial bet "refunded" by $0.02. So suppose you have $80.00 and wagered $2.00 [in btc], and you lose, your remaining balance will be $78.02 instead of $78.00, while if you win, your balance will be $82.00? Pure curiosity and not necessarily related to the topic above, can we actually bet $0.01-0.02? |
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