[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16)

[TopTort777]

That is not the fight boxing fans expect, that is the fight Canelo fans expect. They dont care who his opponent is, all they care is another +1 in his record. I highly doubt that Charlo has been training secretly for last two years and invented a new hidden punch. Canelo needs this fight to have a dominating win after a loss to Bivol. He tried to recover reputation with Ryder, but he gave him a proper fight.

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[cryptomaniac_xxx]

That is not the fight boxing fans expect, that is the fight Canelo fans expect. They dont care who his opponent is, all they care is another +1 in his record. I highly doubt that Charlo has been training secretly for last two years and invented a new hidden punch. Canelo needs this fight to have a dominating win after a loss to Bivol. He tried to recover reputation with Ryder, but he gave him a proper fight.

If this fight happens like 3 years ago, then maybe Charlo have a chance, but it's slim with his version though. He might be doing some light trainings during the time that he is out, but I guess it's not enough to beat a version of Canelo, although we have seen Canelo declining like in the Ryder right.

Charlo though is the real winner because Canelo chooses PBC now, imagine being inactive but then again, since he was maybe a favorite of Al Haymon, he was given a chance to fight the cash cow, so money for him is on the table and maybe if he lost here, then go back to his semi retirement.

[Kemarit]

It should've been David Benavidez.
Well, Canelo Alvarez's camp wins. I don't think they want their boxer to be on the brink of losing so they will go for a smaller guy who will try and increase his weight and then go slower. Which I think will be a match for Canelo.
I was waiting for them to say it will be up against Benavidez because I thought Canelo's camp will be forced to do it after they knew that they could not get a rematch from Bivol and before the WBC title is stripped from him.

On the other hand, it was also reported that Benavidez has sign a 3 fight contract with PBC, so eventually I think they are in a collision course later. For sure this is the target of Benavidez as well so Canelo can't go and hide on his excuses anymore. Unless he doesnt' want to fight David and chooses other fighters in the stable of PBC.

Here it goes, I just wish this will be an exciting fight. I guess I will be forced to bet for Canelo here as Jermall Charlo will need to gain weight while he is training which I think will be a hard task. If it's Benavidez, then I might bet for him.

No odds yet since the fight is rumored to be scheduled on September, nevertheless, Canelo is the favorite here and ML might not be attractive. And so if we want to bet then we should look for other options, at least a good return to us and worth the money.

[Yamifoud]

No odds yet since the fight is rumored to be scheduled on September, nevertheless, Canelo is the favorite here and ML might not be attractive. And so if we want to bet then we should look for other options, at least a good return to us and worth the money.

There's no official betting odds but we can see some odds from https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-fight-september-16th-2023/

Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

[mirakal]

That is not the fight boxing fans expect, that is the fight Canelo fans expect. They dont care who his opponent is, all they care is another +1 in his record. I highly doubt that Charlo has been training secretly for last two years and invented a new hidden punch. Canelo needs this fight to have a dominating win after a loss to Bivol. He tried to recover reputation with Ryder, but he gave him a proper fight.

If this fight happens like 3 years ago, then maybe Charlo have a chance, but it's slim with his version though. He might be doing some light trainings during the time that he is out, but I guess it's not enough to beat a version of Canelo, although we have seen Canelo declining like in the Ryder right.

Charlo though is the real winner because Canelo chooses PBC now, imagine being inactive but then again, since he was maybe a favorite of Al Haymon, he was given a chance to fight the cash cow, so money for him is on the table and maybe if he lost here, then go back to his semi retirement.

I guess both boxers don't have anything to lose especially Canelo as it will be not his first time to lose in a fight but it's kind of questionable if it will happen because the fight will be contested at super-middle where he practically owns the division. While Charlo here, don't know what's up with him for choosing Canelo in his return, but just like Canelo, he doesn't have anything to lose because his days are considered over already as two years is quite a long time.

[Botnake]

No odds yet since the fight is rumored to be scheduled on September, nevertheless, Canelo is the favorite here and ML might not be attractive. And so if we want to bet then we should look for other options, at least a good return to us and worth the money.

There's no official betting odds but we can see some odds from https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-fight-september-16th-2023/

Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

That's a reasonable assessment. Canelo is currently the favorite due to his established status, so it's not surprising. It presents another test for bettors who must decide whether to place their trust in Canelo's continued dominance and bet on his odds or consider his opponent, a rising star in boxing.

Personally, I have a feeling that this fight won't go the distance of 12 rounds. Given the aggressive nature of both boxers, an early knockout is quite possible.

[TopTort777]

There is only one thing that can pause Canelo from being aggressive - his wrist isnt healed fully. He did not use his left much in a fight against Ryder. This time, perhaps he is going to give his hand another test before a bigger fight (I hope so). But, like Ive said, Canelo has trapped himself into being one of the beat. No matter who he fights in middleweight, everyone see his opponent as an underdog. That is why he needs to go up in division.

[Maslate]

There is only one thing that can pause Canelo from being aggressive - his wrist isnt healed fully. He did not use his left much in a fight against Ryder. This time, perhaps he is going to give his hand another test before a bigger fight (I hope so). But, like Ive said, Canelo has trapped himself into being one of the beat. No matter who he fights in middleweight, everyone see his opponent as an underdog. That is why he needs to go up in division.

This fight will present another challenge to Canelo's wrist but I'm thinking that he will carry this disadvantage throughout the end of his career because somehow, we can assume that he's already at sundown plus there's a wear and tear that will be a factor in the healing process of Canelo's wrist as he's also aging already.

We all know that Charlo is not a pushover either even if he was inactive for almost two years because during his good years, he was a very impressive boxer in his division.

[TravelMug]

There is only one thing that can pause Canelo from being aggressive - his wrist isnt healed fully. He did not use his left much in a fight against Ryder. This time, perhaps he is going to give his hand another test before a bigger fight (I hope so). But, like Ive said, Canelo has trapped himself into being one of the beat. No matter who he fights in middleweight, everyone see his opponent as an underdog. That is why he needs to go up in division.

This fight will present another challenge to Canelo's wrist but I'm thinking that he will carry this disadvantage throughout the end of his career because somehow, we can assume that he's already at sundown plus there's a wear and tear that will be a factor in the healing process of Canelo's wrist as he's also aging already.

It could be a big factor as you have said, his wrist might not have been fully healed or they rushed things up so that they can set up a fight with Ryder. Unfortunately, the result is not good for the boxing fans, although Canelo wins.

We all know that Charlo is not a pushover either even if he was inactive for almost two years because during his good years, he was a very impressive boxer in his division.

Yes, but the ring rust though, it's two years plus it is reported that Charlo has a mental problem and that's why he was laying off for a long time. I think it will definitely affect him and then he should also need to get back in shape and add 8 lbs on his frame.

[cabron]

There is only one thing that can pause Canelo from being aggressive - his wrist isnt healed fully. He did not use his left much in a fight against Ryder. This time, perhaps he is going to give his hand another test before a bigger fight (I hope so). But, like Ive said, Canelo has trapped himself into being one of the beat. No matter who he fights in middleweight, everyone see his opponent as an underdog. That is why he needs to go up in division.

This fight will present another challenge to Canelo's wrist but I'm thinking that he will carry this disadvantage throughout the end of his career because somehow, we can assume that he's already at sundown plus there's a wear and tear that will be a factor in the healing process of Canelo's wrist as he's also aging already.

It could be a big factor as you have said, his wrist might not have been fully healed or they rushed things up so that they can set up a fight with Ryder. Unfortunately, the result is not good for the boxing fans, although Canelo wins.

We all know that Charlo is not a pushover either even if he was inactive for almost two years because during his good years, he was a very impressive boxer in his division.

Yes, but the ring rust though, it's two years plus it is reported that Charlo has a mental problem and that's why he was laying off for a long time. I think it will definitely affect him and then he should also need to get back in shape and add 8 lbs on his frame.

It's not common for African-American to have mental problems, it's not their thing. They'd rather beat someone on the street than deal with mental stuff.  Getting crazy is not their thing.
It is true however that Charlo has less chance of winning against Alvarez. A bad combination that he is adding weight and has not fought for years.

It's interesting for Canelo to sign on Premier Boxing deal for 3 fights yet no Bivol is included in it.  Giving up or he will just wait til Bivol loses against Beiv fight which negotiation for a rematch will be easier.

[btc_angela]

There is only one thing that can pause Canelo from being aggressive - his wrist isnt healed fully. He did not use his left much in a fight against Ryder. This time, perhaps he is going to give his hand another test before a bigger fight (I hope so). But, like Ive said, Canelo has trapped himself into being one of the beat. No matter who he fights in middleweight, everyone see his opponent as an underdog. That is why he needs to go up in division.

This fight will present another challenge to Canelo's wrist but I'm thinking that he will carry this disadvantage throughout the end of his career because somehow, we can assume that he's already at sundown plus there's a wear and tear that will be a factor in the healing process of Canelo's wrist as he's also aging already.

It could be a big factor as you have said, his wrist might not have been fully healed or they rushed things up so that they can set up a fight with Ryder. Unfortunately, the result is not good for the boxing fans, although Canelo wins.

We all know that Charlo is not a pushover either even if he was inactive for almost two years because during his good years, he was a very impressive boxer in his division.

Yes, but the ring rust though, it's two years plus it is reported that Charlo has a mental problem and that's why he was laying off for a long time. I think it will definitely affect him and then he should also need to get back in shape and add 8 lbs on his frame.

It's not common for African-American to have mental problems, it's not their thing. They'd rather beat someone on the street than deal with mental stuff.  Getting crazy is not their thing.
It is true however that Charlo has less chance of winning against Alvarez. A bad combination that he is adding weight and has not fought for years.

It's interesting for Canelo to sign on Premier Boxing deal for 3 fights yet no Bivol is included in it.  Giving up or he will just wait til Bivol loses against Beiv fight which negotiation for a rematch will be easier.

I can't remember though, maybe it was Alvarez who has started signing just 3 fight deals moving forward. Maybe he learned it the hard way when he wanted to get out of the GBP contract, it was ugly on either side. Then he goes to Eddie Hearn, now with PBC.

As for the mental problems, if will hit anyone, specially sports athlete as they are always in the lime light, both men and women.

It's just the question on how you will overcome it. Like Ryan Garcia has several tune up fights to bring back his confidence. But in Charlo's case, it's different, his comeback is against Canelo Alvarez and that's why majority of the boxing fans are not giving him chance to win in this fight.

[Darker45]

Jermall Charlo may be a good and powerful boxer, but I think Canelo will easily dismantle him in this fight. Like other matches such as the Davis-Garcia fight, this match may only be exciting if we look at the plain numbers or their records and accomplishments. But if we take a closer look at each one of them, it may not be a good match.

When Charlo defended his title against a nobody in Montiel and only got a UD, it spoke a lot. That was way back June of 2021. From that time on, Jermall was nowhere to be found. He wasn't fighting in the ring anymore. We learned that he was fighting another battle: mental health.

So if I were to take into consideration that Jermall is inactive for more than 2 years before fighting Canelo, that he has just faced mental health problems, that he's moving up in weight class probably because of all those years of inactivity, I'd totally understand that this early Canelo is 1.42 favorite while Charlo is 2.82 underdog.

[Botnake]

So if I were to take into consideration that Jermall is inactive for more than 2 years before fighting Canelo, that he has just faced mental health problems, that he's moving up in weight class probably because of all those years of inactivity, I'd totally understand that this early Canelo is 1.42 favorite while Charlo is 2.82 underdog.

He was inactive for a while, and that was a weakness he had in this fight. Now, he has suddenly come back, but instead of choosing a tune-up fight, he is directly fighting Canelo, whom the latter loves because it's an easy fight for him. The odds are clear, and fans believe he will lose. However, hopefully, he won't just lose without putting up a fight. After all, he has an undefeated record and this is the biggest fight of his career, so he should not waste this opportunity.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

So if I were to take into consideration that Jermall is inactive for more than 2 years before fighting Canelo, that he has just faced mental health problems, that he's moving up in weight class probably because of all those years of inactivity, I'd totally understand that this early Canelo is 1.42 favorite while Charlo is 2.82 underdog.

He was inactive for a while, and that was a weakness he had in this fight. Now, he has suddenly come back, but instead of choosing a tune-up fight, he is directly fighting Canelo, whom the latter loves because it's an easy fight for him. The odds are clear, and fans believe he will lose. However, hopefully, he won't just lose without putting up a fight. After all, he has an undefeated record and this is the biggest fight of his career, so he should not waste this opportunity.

He will definitely put up a fight here, but I doubt that it will be enough to even beat a version of Canelo who might be in the sunset of his career. If Charlo is active though it might be a different story. But we have seen boxers who hasn't been in the square arena fighting after many years of layoff just losing even though they are great before. He is just lucky that he was given this fight by PBC and for Canelo this is going to be easy for them. He might be good for at least 4 rounds before Canelo stepping up and giving a hard time for Charlo.

[mirakal]

There is only one thing that can pause Canelo from being aggressive - his wrist isnt healed fully. He did not use his left much in a fight against Ryder. This time, perhaps he is going to give his hand another test before a bigger fight (I hope so). But, like Ive said, Canelo has trapped himself into being one of the beat. No matter who he fights in middleweight, everyone see his opponent as an underdog. That is why he needs to go up in division.

This fight will present another challenge to Canelo's wrist but I'm thinking that he will carry this disadvantage throughout the end of his career because somehow, we can assume that he's already at sundown plus there's a wear and tear that will be a factor in the healing process of Canelo's wrist as he's also aging already.

It could be a big factor as you have said, his wrist might not have been fully healed or they rushed things up so that they can set up a fight with Ryder. Unfortunately, the result is not good for the boxing fans, although Canelo wins.

We all know that Charlo is not a pushover either even if he was inactive for almost two years because during his good years, he was a very impressive boxer in his division.

Yes, but the ring rust though, it's two years plus it is reported that Charlo has a mental problem and that's why he was laying off for a long time. I think it will definitely affect him and then he should also need to get back in shape and add 8 lbs on his frame.

Needless to say, both boxers have their own disadvantages and problems that makes the win quite blurry as of the moment, and I can say that it is going to be a tough fight for both boxers because of that. Moreover, I see no advantage about this fight either except for Canelo's evident factor that he will get some help once the fight goes to the judge's hand mainly if the fight seems too tight.

[Kemarit]

It just got me thinking though, perhaps this case can't be applied to Jermall Charlo as he is inactive and not a natural Super Middleweight contender. But if John Ryder can last 12 full rounds against Canelo, what will happen if Alvarez faces a young fighter in Benavidez? Is this the reason why they didn't choose him in the first place and take a easy fight in Charlo?

But the thing is, he signs with PBC and sooner or later Canelo will have to dance with Benavidez, but it might be too late for Canelo as he might not be in the same shape as he is years ago.

[Viscore]

It just got me thinking though, perhaps this case can't be applied to Jermall Charlo as he is inactive and not a natural Super Middleweight contender. But if John Ryder can last 12 full rounds against Canelo, what will happen if Alvarez faces a young fighter in Benavidez? Is this the reason why they didn't choose him in the first place and take a easy fight in Charlo?

Most probably because Charlo is inactive, yet he has a popular name, so Canelo would still be able to ensure that the fight will sell. It will be an easy route for him to win and earn a lot of money. Slowly, Canelo has become less exciting to watch due to the fighters he chooses, unlike before when he would willingly take risks against champions.

But the thing is, he signs with PBC and sooner or later Canelo will have to dance with Benavidez, but it might be too late for Canelo as he might not be in the same shape as he is years ago.

I don't care about the outcome of the fight, but I would truly admire Canelo if he were to fight Benavidez and give the fans what they deserve.

[btc_angela]

It just got me thinking though, perhaps this case can't be applied to Jermall Charlo as he is inactive and not a natural Super Middleweight contender. But if John Ryder can last 12 full rounds against Canelo, what will happen if Alvarez faces a young fighter in Benavidez? Is this the reason why they didn't choose him in the first place and take a easy fight in Charlo?

But the thing is, he signs with PBC and sooner or later Canelo will have to dance with Benavidez, but it might be too late for Canelo as he might not be in the same shape as he is years ago.

It's only Benavidez that is worth noting in that 3 fight deal with PBC. And just like in the GGG fight wherein GGG have to sign with DAZN and chase Canelo, this might be the case here as Canelo has no more excuse not to fight the young Mexican.

So maybe David will be the last of the 3 fight deal. At least it is good for Canelo and we don't know if he is going to continue with his legacy and fight other big names or rematch Bivol later after his PBC stint.

[inthelongrun]

Finally, the dream fight of pussymall Charlo comes into reality. Bad timing though as Canelo caught him inactive. But this fight is the main reason why Mall is either cherry-picking or just staying inactive to preserve his 0 which is as always attractive to Canelo.

It's crazy how Moneyricio Sulaiman is not stripping the WBC belt but most likely that his organization is being paid by PBC to treat them beyond its rules.

Anyways, I would love to see Cownelo butchering Charlo into oblivion. But maybe Canelo is not the same anymore so I just voted for him to win by decision. Rumors by the way that Canelo signed a 3-fight deal with PBC are circulating. So most likely 2 more fights in 2024's Cinco De Mayo weekend and Mexico's independence day weekend in September. So this deal is probably the reason why Benavidez opted not to face the undefeated Cuban David Morrell as it might be too risky.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

There's no official betting odds but we can see some odds from https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-fight-september-16th-2023/

Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

Thanks bro, just as I expected, the odds are much closer than for the Canelo vs Ryder bout.

These are official, you can bet them at FanDuel.