[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16)

[Mr. Magkaisa]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

[btc_angela]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Maybe you lack more assessment,

1. Charlo is 160 lbs as his best weight. They are going to fight at Canelo's best weight of 168 lbs. So think about it, Charlo needs to add additional 8 lbs in his frame.
2. Charlo has been inactive for more than 2 years because of mental issues.

I think it's important to factor this two if you are going to make your prediction in this fight.

[Dave1]

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

Canelo is scared to fight with prime Bivol, so he avoid it and choose to fight with the opponents he think he will win e.g. Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez, and David Morrell. If the undisputed light heavyweight will happen e.g. Bivol vs Beterbiev, if Bivol win, Canelo will wait until he move to heavyweight or retire. But if Beterbiev win, I think Canelo will dare to fight with Bivol since both of them don't have any belt and the judges will favor on Canelo.

David Benavidez is not on Canelo's option as he is hiding behind the reason that there's no benefit for him if he will fight David, which is true, but considering that he's also fond in cleaning his own division, I cannot see any reason why he will not give David the chance and this governing bodies is not doing their job and give a mandatory fight as David is a WBC interim boxer.

That's what Canelo also said against GGG, that he will not give GGG a rematch. But when GGG went to DAZN and sign a contract, Canelo has no choice but to fight him. Same in the case with Benavidez now, Canelo signs a 3 fight deal with PBC and Showtime, so it means that they are not under Al Haymon and PBC. So I wouldn't be surprised that Benavidez is next after Charlo. So he can't hide from his reasons of "not fighting another Mexican".

For Bivol, I think Canelo is not after what Bivol is holding right now as a rematch is just a plain fight to redeem his loss and so it doesn't really matter if Bivol will lost the belt to Beterbiev or not. But as per Bivol's words, there will be no rematch unless Canelo wanted to take a risk and host the fight at his own division.

According to Bivol's camp, they offered too low for their rematch, that's why it didn't happen. So first reason is money. Second, as I have stated, Bivol is with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, and now Canelo is with PBC and Al Haymon. So we all know that most of the time, boxing politics hinders us boxing fans from seeing great fight and so we might not see a rematch anytime soon.

[Sanitough]

According to Bivol's camp, they offered too low for their rematch, that's why it didn't happen. So first reason is money. Second, as I have stated, Bivol is with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, and now Canelo is with PBC and Al Haymon. So we all know that most of the time, boxing politics hinders us boxing fans from seeing great fight and so we might not see a rematch anytime soon.

That's a bad move. Although Canelo is an attraction, it's important to show respect for Bivol, who is the champion and has already defeated him once. A 50/50 split would be reasonable and fair, considering Bivol's current status. Bivol's camp is not asking for a lot; they simply want a fair sharing based on his accomplishments.

[Kemarit]

According to Bivol's camp, they offered too low for their rematch, that's why it didn't happen. So first reason is money. Second, as I have stated, Bivol is with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, and now Canelo is with PBC and Al Haymon. So we all know that most of the time, boxing politics hinders us boxing fans from seeing great fight and so we might not see a rematch anytime soon.

That's a bad move. Although Canelo is an attraction, it's important to show respect for Bivol, who is the champion and has already defeated him once. A 50/50 split would be reasonable and fair, considering Bivol's current status. Bivol's camp is not asking for a lot; they simply want a fair sharing based on his accomplishments.

And that is why we said that Canelo is ducking Bivol in the rematch, as they deceptively offer a unrealistic amount to Bivol and his camp and they know that they are not going to accept it.

Once it finalized, Canelo sign with PBC leaving Bivol matchup in the table. No 50/50 split of Bivol and then Canelo moving on with a fight against a inactive Charlo for the super Middleweight, very effective move by somewhat deceiving if you are going to look at it. Maybe Charlo is offered 20% here in this fight or just as high as 30% I reckon.

[Distinctin]

According to Bivol's camp, they offered too low for their rematch, that's why it didn't happen. So first reason is money. Second, as I have stated, Bivol is with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, and now Canelo is with PBC and Al Haymon. So we all know that most of the time, boxing politics hinders us boxing fans from seeing great fight and so we might not see a rematch anytime soon.

That's a bad move. Although Canelo is an attraction, it's important to show respect for Bivol, who is the champion and has already defeated him once. A 50/50 split would be reasonable and fair, considering Bivol's current status. Bivol's camp is not asking for a lot; they simply want a fair sharing based on his accomplishments.

And that is why we said that Canelo is ducking Bivol in the rematch, as they deceptively offer a unrealistic amount to Bivol and his camp and they know that they are not going to accept it.

Once it finalized, Canelo sign with PBC leaving Bivol matchup in the table. No 50/50 split of Bivol and then Canelo moving on with a fight against a inactive Charlo for the super Middleweight, very effective move by somewhat deceiving if you are going to look at it. Maybe Charlo is offered 20% here in this fight or just as high as 30% I reckon.

It's a disappointing strategy, as it seems purely business-driven, with no intention to risk losing again. He is taking advantage of his current popularity and the potential for high pay-per-view sales. I hope Bivol continues to work hard and gain more popularity, so that eventually there will be no excuse for Canelo to deny Bivol a fair split.

[TopTort777]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Are you from this planet or just trolling us? If you think that Charlo has advantage in stamina and boxing skills, then what can you say about his 2 year pause, while Canelo boxed best of the best during these two years? Dont forget that Charlo will be in 168 for the first time in his career, while Canelo feels in 168 like fish in water. If you so sure in your prediction, will you place money on Charlo?

[Questat]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Are you from this planet or just trolling us? If you think that Charlo has advantage in stamina and boxing skills, then what can you say about his 2 year pause, while Canelo boxed best of the best during these two years? Dont forget that Charlo will be in 168 for the first time in his career, while Canelo feels in 168 like fish in water. If you so sure in your prediction, will you place money on Charlo?

He has his own perception about this fight, and it seems that only a few people believe that Charlo would win, as reflected in the betting odds for this particular fight. If he thinks Charlo will win, then that's his personal opinion. However, even if we strongly favor Canelo in this matchup, we cannot guarantee his victory.

[Jating]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Are you from this planet or just trolling us? If you think that Charlo has advantage in stamina and boxing skills, then what can you say about his 2 year pause, while Canelo boxed best of the best during these two years? Dont forget that Charlo will be in 168 for the first time in his career, while Canelo feels in 168 like fish in water. If you so sure in your prediction, will you place money on Charlo?

He has his own perception about this fight, and it seems that only a few people believe that Charlo would win, as reflected in the betting odds for this particular fight. If he thinks Charlo will win, then that's his personal opinion. However, even if we strongly favor Canelo in this matchup, we cannot guarantee his victory.

Yeah, he can do that by all means, bet on Charlo if he thinks that he is better than Canelo Alvarez, the current cash cow and in the pound for pound list.

We are just laying the grounds for what we think might be the factor why Charlo can't beat Canelo at this point. Charlo is away from the sports so his stamina and even his boxing skills might be in question. And then he is fighting Canelo's best weight. Charlo has seen 168 lbs inside the ring. Maybe in his off season he might be carrying a full 168 lbs+, but it's different if you are training with that a lot of weight that your body is not accustomed to.

[btc_angela]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Are you from this planet or just trolling us? If you think that Charlo has advantage in stamina and boxing skills, then what can you say about his 2 year pause, while Canelo boxed best of the best during these two years? Dont forget that Charlo will be in 168 for the first time in his career, while Canelo feels in 168 like fish in water. If you so sure in your prediction, will you place money on Charlo?

Lol, I don't want to said it, but yeah, seems to be that way or he doesn't know his boxing (no offense though).

But whatever he feels to put his money on Charlo then why not? it's his money by the way and we can't take that from him and risk it to Charlo. But if you have been following the sports, then as good as Charlo is at 160 during his reign and he still has the belt because organization refuse to strip him the belt despite being inactive, we doubt that he will have a higher chance of defeating Alvarez even if this version of Canelo have somewhat seen better days.

[TopTort777]

I can assume he is a huge Charlo fan and blindly believe in his victory, but I see nobody who can beat Canelo in middleweight or super middleweight divisions today. His opponent can only rely on a lucky punch, which they would get if Canelo would be to much into playing with his opponent. But, as Canelo stays concentrated all the time, the only chance his opponents have is to catch him on counter punching.

[Finestream]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Are you from this planet or just trolling us? If you think that Charlo has advantage in stamina and boxing skills, then what can you say about his 2 year pause, while Canelo boxed best of the best during these two years? Dont forget that Charlo will be in 168 for the first time in his career, while Canelo feels in 168 like fish in water. If you so sure in your prediction, will you place money on Charlo?

He has his own perception about this fight, and it seems that only a few people believe that Charlo would win, as reflected in the betting odds for this particular fight. If he thinks Charlo will win, then that's his personal opinion. However, even if we strongly favor Canelo in this matchup, we cannot guarantee his victory.

We never know quite a lot of upsets happened this year and I will not be surprised if there is any of that in this fight.

But as per speculations are concerned, it's hard to deny that Canelo got the advantages and let's not forget as well that the fight will contested in Canelo's comfortable division plus there is this huge factor where Charlo didn't had any fights in the last two years which could likely result in a ring rust. In simple terms, it will be hard to bet against the undisputed champion who owns the division.

[Questat]

I can assume he is a huge Charlo fan and blindly believe in his victory, ...

LOL! That's too much, man. Just because Canelo is very popular and everyone believes he is going to win doesn't mean a bettor who bets on Charlo is blindly betting on him. What would you say if it turns out Jermall Charlo wins the fight? What I'm trying to say is that in boxing or any form of sports, upsets do happen, so we cannot jump to conclusions.

[TopTort777]

I can assume he is a huge Charlo fan and blindly believe in his victory, ...

LOL! That's too much, man. Just because Canelo is very popular and everyone believes he is going to win doesn't mean a bettor who bets on Charlo is blindly betting on him. What would you say if it turns out Jermall Charlo wins the fight? What I'm trying to say is that in boxing or any form of sports, upsets do happen, so we cannot jump to conclusions.

If Jermall Charlo wins, I am gonna take my words back and apologize to Mr. Magkaisa for making fun of him. Would gladly hear from him why he thinks that Charlo has more stamina and skills. I just dont get how he come to conclusion that Charlo is better if he wasnt inactive, and boxing does not stand on one place. I have never seen in my entire MMA and boxing observation life, that a fighter, who isnt much unique, came from such a pause and had a victory over the best boxer of division.

[Hypnosis00]

I have never seen in my entire MMA and boxing observation life, that a fighter, who isnt much unique, came from such a pause and had a victory over the best boxer of division.

That's really true. Maybe the chance of Charlo winning this fight is very slim. He took this big fight because it's an opportunity for him to earn more money. But hopefully, he will not be punished by his decision, because instead of having a tune-up fight in his comeback, he directly challenged Canelo, who is in his dominant division.

[Jating]

I can assume he is a huge Charlo fan and blindly believe in his victory, but I see nobody who can beat Canelo in middleweight or super middleweight divisions today. His opponent can only rely on a lucky punch, which they would get if Canelo would be to much into playing with his opponent. But, as Canelo stays concentrated all the time, the only chance his opponents have is to catch him on counter punching.

It's obvious that this is the best weight for Canelo, he once go up to 175 lbs and beat an old champion, but when he tried to fight a young and fresh legs in Bivol, he lost. So he goes down to 168 lbs and finished the trilogy with GGG in which he won soundly. And then John Ryder a couple of months ago, a tune up fight coming from injuries and still he won despite the valiant effort of Ryder.

So yeah, pretty much at 168 lbs Canelo Alvarez is unbeatable, the closest fighter to beat him is GGG on their first fight. Charlo might be good at 160 lbs, but this is a new territory for him and we have to question his power if he still has at super middleweight.

[Sanitough]

So yeah, pretty much at 168 lbs Canelo Alvarez is unbeatable, the closest fighter to beat him is GGG on their first fight. Charlo might be good at 160 lbs, but this is a new territory for him and we have to question his power if he still has at super middleweight.

Not only his power but also his quickness. You are right, Canelo has been dominating in this weight class, so it's hard to expect him to lose here. Maybe after this fight, we will witness another knockout win from Canelo, further boosting his reputation. This makes me wonder what's next for him. Will he stay in his current weight class or move up to finally challenge Bivol again?

[inthelongrun]

     -  I think Charlo will win there, because from what I can see if he is only Canelo in terms of stamina and skills of punches, this is just my assessment. Although most of this is Canelo's advantage, but for me I don't think so. We'll find out when they're in the ring.

Although, they are both showing off and teasing each other, let's see who is telling them the truth when they are both fighting.

Maybe you lack more assessment,

1. Charlo is 160 lbs as his best weight. They are going to fight at Canelo's best weight of 168 lbs. So think about it, Charlo needs to add additional 8 lbs in his frame.
2. Charlo has been inactive for more than 2 years because of mental issues.

I think it's important to factor this two if you are going to make your prediction in this fight.

Sometimes it's just easy to say things especially when there is nothing at stake. But maybe the guy already made a bet on Pussymall. No offense though, I just don't like how Jermall is calling up Canelo for years now yet he never even entertained a fight against Boo Boo and Benavidez which are easier to make.

The assessment of a Charlo victory is just too hard to imagine now that he has become inactive. Jermall would have had a better chance a few years ago when he was active. I did not mind his so-called personal reasons that made him inactive. Who cares, he was given VIP treatment by the WBC anyways.

[Viscore]

I did not mind his so-called personal reasons that made him inactive. Who cares, he was given VIP treatment by the WBC anyways.

The VIP treatment will likely be gone once he experiences a defeat against one of the greatest boxers in the world. Canelo will make sure to secure an impressive win in this match. With his advantage of being the more active boxer and having established himself comfortably in this weight class, the chances of Jermall Charlo winning are slim. However, we can acknowledge that he does possess the skills of a boxer.

There are many questions surrounding his inactivity, but if he manages to defeat Canelo, he can prove us wrong.

[Dave1]

So yeah, pretty much at 168 lbs Canelo Alvarez is unbeatable, the closest fighter to beat him is GGG on their first fight. Charlo might be good at 160 lbs, but this is a new territory for him and we have to question his power if he still has at super middleweight.

Not only his power but also his quickness. You are right, Canelo has been dominating in this weight class, so it's hard to expect him to lose here. Maybe after this fight, we will witness another knockout win from Canelo, further boosting his reputation. This makes me wonder what's next for him. Will he stay in his current weight class or move up to finally challenge Bivol again?

If we look at his contract, it's a 3 fight deal with PBC, so as the news has reported it, it will be Charlo and then Benavidez or Morrell because that is the stable of PBC has as far as 168 lbs goes.

Bivol is on the other side with Eddie Hearn, so I'm not seeing Canelo fighting him, unless he has served that 3 fight with PBC and then sign back with Eddie Hearn and Matchroom just for Canelo to get avenge his defeat to Bivol.