⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Webetcoins]

Ipswich did everything very well. They have dominated the game and tried so hard adding another goals. They can't score due to Onana's sensational performance. He's the one who saved United from getting bantered by other clubs fans.

Ipswich rarely wasted their chances. all of their attempts were blocked by Onana. They were not fortunate enough.

I was sure they could score 2 or 3 if Onana was underperform.

I do agree that Onana was the man of the match without a doubt, he played amazingly and I believe he might have played his best game at United yet, that was definitely saving the day for United, they could have lost as well.

While I understand everyone coming to defend Amorim, I am still at belief that he didn't do well enough, the tactic of nearly 3-4-3, with one striker but two attackers with the striker, that wasn't really a brand new idea, it is not the thing that will save United. If this is what Amorim wants us to be patient for, then I am pretty sure that even when all of the players are used to this formation and strategy, they are not going to end up with winning every game.

This tactic is old school, and not really that effective, the three defenders is not enough for Premier League, and while the wingers are both wing and also backs, that tires them easily, so you need to seriously have four great ones, in order to replace them as soon as they are tired, and switch them in each game. With the way they are right now, they don't even have two great ones to play, and these players will cause a lot of defensive issues in the future, opponents will be great from wings late stage in every single game, it's clear as day from single match, the tactic is wrong.

[reagansimms]

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It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes. Although a change of coach often leads to the players behaving more enthusiastically on the field. Well, a miracle did not happen, he has a difficult job ahead of him, actually I did not expect anything else, I think that we will be able to see changes after the winter transfer window, when he takes several players from Sporting to Manchester United, and until then he will be looking for which players are suitable for further work with him.

To be honest, Manchester United fans were a little disappointed with the results they had just achieved, Amorim failed to make a sweet debut in the EPL after only being able to draw at Ipswich Town's headquarters. This result certainly makes Manchester United fans return to frustration mode after seeing positive results when handled by Van Nistelrooy.
I can understand what Amorim experienced in his first game in charge of Manchester United, he clearly needed time to end the negative results achieved when he was still handled by Ten Hag. I hope Manchester United's misery doesn't continue on his hands, he needs to quickly sort out the problems that are happening in his squad by winning games, but this will take time.

[Palakka]

It's surprising how we are all carried away with Manchester united and Amorin discussion to the extent we forgot Newcastle played against westham united yesterday and lost at their home.

Perhaps, Westham united had their best game yesterday after a very long time. They fought hard for the victory and the result justify it. I was actually not confident before the game but it turned out otherwise. The big question now is how long can they uphold a performance like this? Their next game is against Arsenal. What are your thoughts?

Manchester United and Amorim has become a hot topic in forum since he was rumored to have joined Manchester United, besides that the draw that Amorim achieved in his first match as Red Devils coach actually added to the length of the discussion  , the Newcastle vs West Ham match was the only match played yesterday, so it is very natural that many forget about the match other than the match schedule that is played at midnight in my country, But Westham victory over Newcastle is quite surprising in fact considering that Newcastle is more favored in the match, in addition to playing at home, the quality of the squad owned by the two teams have a significant difference so far.
For the next Westham match, against Arsenal is definitely not easy match, but if they can play with the right spirit and strategy,  Of course they could have achieved positive results in the match later, although Arsenal is still the favourite in the match.

[Kindness001]

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It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes. Although a change of coach often leads to the players behaving more enthusiastically on the field. Well, a miracle did not happen, he has a difficult job ahead of him, actually I did not expect anything else, I think that we will be able to see changes after the winter transfer window, when he takes several players from Sporting to Manchester United, and until then he will be looking for which players are suitable for further work with him.

To be honest, Manchester United fans were a little disappointed with the results they had just achieved, Amorim failed to make a sweet debut in the EPL after only being able to draw at Ipswich Town's headquarters. This result certainly makes Manchester United fans return to frustration mode after seeing positive results when handled by Van Nistelrooy.
I can understand what Amorim experienced in his first game in charge of Manchester United, he clearly needed time to end the negative results achieved when he was still handled by Ten Hag. I hope Manchester United's misery doesn't continue on his hands, he needs to quickly sort out the problems that are happening in his squad by winning games, but this will take time.

The fans are disappointed because of the recent progress man Utd has during Van Nistelrooy they all put mare expectations on amorin especially after his recent win to man City with a 4-1 victory and a fine display they all expected something like that against the newly qualified Ipswich town
They are much positivity e.g Man Utd holding possession which is not common in man Utds game so he might need more time as amorin also believe In the players

[pawel7777]

Man City is about to face the Dutch Feyenoord in the Champions League round five in a little over an hour. This is their chance to break the bad spell and end their 5-long losing streak.
Feyenoord are not pushovers, they had a couple of good games in the league recently and have proven they could be dangerous e.g. by defeating Benfica 3-1 in an away game.
Nevertheless, bookies still have a very high faith in the City, as they're the big favourite with odds at x1.17 (x15.00 for Feyenoord).

And they desperately need to get their confidence back before Sunday's away game against Liverpool, who are now x2.16 favourite, while the odds for the City are x3.20. Losing in Liverpool would be a disaster.

[fullhdpixel]

To be honest, Manchester United fans were a little disappointed with the results they had just achieved, Amorim failed to make a sweet debut in the EPL after only being able to draw at Ipswich Town's headquarters. This result certainly makes Manchester United fans return to frustration mode after seeing positive results when handled by Van Nistelrooy.
I can understand what Amorim experienced in his first game in charge of Manchester United, he clearly needed time to end the negative results achieved when he was still handled by Ten Hag. I hope Manchester United's misery doesn't continue on his hands, he needs to quickly sort out the problems that are happening in his squad by winning games, but this will take time.

And they have every right to feel that way, we are talking about a terrible team they are facing, doesn't matter if it's his first game or not, he should have been able to win this one, so it was a bad result and the fans have every right to reserve judgement on Amorim now. They were cheerful when Erik Ten Hag was fired, because he was terrible, but this is the type of result that he would have gotten as well, so we are waiting to see how Amorim will make better adjustment. Doesn't mean that he is going to play terrible, maybe United will do much better in the near future, maybe they will go on a winning streak, but fans are going to be not so much hopeful and they are going to feel a bit worse about all of this until they get a win.

[Litzki1990]

It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes.

If Amorim didn’t sign new players, then I don’t think Manchester United will achieve anything serious, he just has to allow some players to leave the club and then sign some players. It’s obvious that Manchester United's problem is not only the coach, but some players need to leave the club, and Amorim will have to be given time to improve the club’s performance, Manchester United fans shouldn’t just expect changes within a short period of time. When the transfer window is open, I am sure he will sign some players who will be able to play the pattern that he wants.

What fans want is something fast. However we can see United in bad condition, and his arrival to the team will make there will be great expectations.
Maybe fans do not want to know the process, but the most important thing is the club understands the process. To make United its golden age, of course, is not easy. At that time they had top-world players in the team and when they competed, they were always feared by their opponents. If you want to prepare United to be like that, then it will take a lot of money to bring in players according to the coach's wishes. And the process will certainly be done gradually.

If Manchester United fans can accept this bad position of the team for a while then they must be patient and give time to the new manager. If the management had not sacked their former manager at this point in the season and kept him in charge, Manchester United fans would have put up with him. There is a big difference between organizing your own team and taking charge of someone else's team. Currently, he has taken charge of a random team to catch Manchester United, so he must be given enough time to organize this random team. Maybe this season he will try but it is not possible for him to do the best in this season so United fans should expect something better from this manager after bringing the players in the team as planned next season.

[hahay]

Man City is about to face the Dutch Feyenoord in the Champions League round five in a little over an hour. This is their chance to break the bad spell and end their 5-long losing streak.
Feyenoord are not pushovers, they had a couple of good games in the league recently and have proven they could be dangerous e.g. by defeating Benfica 3-1 in an away game.
Nevertheless, bookies still have a very high faith in the City, as they're the big favourite with odds at x1.17 (x15.00 for Feyenoord).

And they desperately need to get their confidence back before Sunday's away game against Liverpool, who are now x2.16 favourite, while the odds for the City are x3.20. Losing in Liverpool would be a disaster.

Obviously, with the bad situation experienced by Manchester City lately, of course it will make Liverpool will maximize the moment to beat Manchester City at Anfield. Because that way, of course Liverpool with Manchester City will be very wide for their point gap in the standings. But indeed, although Manchester City have suffered three consecutive defeats in the Premier League, but Machester City are still in second place until now.

But, if for example Manchester City really lost to Liverpool, and if for example at the same time Chelsea, Arsenal and Brighton won, then Manchester City would be in fifth position or maybe also only down and in fourth position. Although Manchester City will still manage to be or finish in the top four, but Manchester City seems to have lost the chance to return to the top of the standings if in the next match Manchester City lose against Liverpool.

[Huppercase]

And they have every right to feel that way, we are talking about a terrible team they are facing, doesn't matter if it's his first game or not, he should have been able to win this one, so it was a bad result and the fans have every right to reserve judgement on Amorim now. They were cheerful when Erik Ten Hag was fired, because he was terrible, but this is the type of result that he would have gotten as well, so we are waiting to see how Amorim will make better adjustment. Doesn't mean that he is going to play terrible, maybe United will do much better in the near future, maybe they will go on a winning streak, but fans are going to be not so much hopeful and they are going to feel a bit worse about all of this until they get a win.

They have every right to feel that way but they need to give Amorim some break. He is just starting the team and he is the only person that see what we the fans are not seeing. Not only that, yiu also need to consider that there is much demanded which he is not even an excuse but he will get better with time. I know Ruud had a great 3 weeks with the boys but I he isn't the man that was assigned as permanent coach, he just need time to do what everyone is asking or him.

The only think of Manchester United is that they gave so much time for Erik to waste their time and now they are they are trying to even get above top and even the minor ad moving gradually on the table. If Ruben Amorim do what is necessary for him to get the club in a better place, I have some confidence in their success because he brought some assistant coach to him, this is how he manage his games in sporting, similar wlll be done here.

[joniboini]

They have every right to feel that way but they need to give Amorim some break. He is just starting the team and he is the only person that see what we the fans are not seeing. Not only that, yiu also need to consider that there is much demanded which he is not even an excuse but he will get better with time.

I find it weird that some people hope Amorim will transform Rashford into prime Ronaldo or whatever. It's clear from his interviews that he will likely sell a lot of players and bring in new ones that suit his style. Pretty sure the same people will bash the United's board if they decide to stick with RvN after three games, calling it a rash decision or whatever when they lose a game or so. If I were the board, I'd give him at least one season to change the squad with a realistic target of achieving the top 4. Demanding a trophy after half a season with terrible players is unreasonable.

Although Manchester City will still manage to be or finish in the top four, but Manchester City seems to have lost the chance to return to the top of the standings if in the next match Manchester City lose against Liverpool.

I think some pundits believe that City won't target the Premier League this season and prepare for a transition period instead. They extended Guardiola's contract for another season of squad building so that he could leave the club with a good squad just like Klopp did with Liverpool. I can see that. After all their key players get older and trying to replace all of them in one window is impossible even if they have all the money in the world.

[Barikui1]

They have every right to feel that way but they need to give Amorim some break. He is just starting the team and he is the only person that see what we the fans are not seeing. Not only that, yiu also need to consider that there is much demanded which he is not even an excuse but he will get better with time. I know Ruud had a great 3 weeks with the boys but I he isn't the man that was assigned as permanent coach, he just need time to do what everyone is asking or him.

The only think of Manchester United is that they gave so much time for Erik to waste their time and now they are they are trying to even get above top and even the minor ad moving gradually on the table. If Ruben Amorim do what is necessary for him to get the club in a better place, I have some confidence in their success because he brought some assistant coach to him, this is how he manage his games in sporting, similar wlll be done here.

Yea you are actually right here, they should just give the man a break, he is not the cause of the club failure during the tenure of Eric ten hang, this Manchester united team has regress so much under the leadership of Eric ten hang, so a lot of works needs to be done to return Manchester united back to it glory days, so he needs a whole lot of time to pass his coaching ideas and playing system across the minds of all his players, so Manchester united fan should just let him be.

I know that most of their fans are now comparing him to rud van nistelrooy, in my own opinion that's not a good idea, because rud van nistelrooy knows the club and the player more better than him, so he needs time to know the quality of his players, so that he can establish a playing system that best suit them, so time is very much essential, and that what he needs.

[Farma]

Obviously, with the bad situation experienced by Manchester City lately, of course it will make Liverpool will maximize the moment to beat Manchester City at Anfield. Because that way, of course Liverpool with Manchester City will be very wide for their point gap in the standings. But indeed, although Manchester City have suffered three consecutive defeats in the Premier League, but Machester City are still in second place until now.

But, if for example Manchester City really lost to Liverpool, and if for example at the same time Chelsea, Arsenal and Brighton won, then Manchester City would be in fifth position or maybe also only down and in fourth position. Although Manchester City will still manage to be or finish in the top four, but Manchester City seems to have lost the chance to return to the top of the standings if in the next match Manchester City lose against Liverpool.

This is indeed a big deal for Liverpool to be able to widen the points gap by beating Manchester City in the next meeting, but even though they are in a slump, the Manchester City team cannot be underestimated, they have everything to be able to rise at any time, especially when playing against Liverpool, of course the Manchester City team has a much higher motivation to be able to win the match.

It's too early to say that, Manchester City still has a chance to compete for the title and they are even favored to defend the title.
The journey this season is still very long and what the Manchester City team is experiencing right now is a natural thing, they can still rise and I believe that.

[mammusu]

 
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To be honest, Manchester United fans were a little disappointed with the results they had just achieved, Amorim failed to make a sweet debut in the EPL after only being able to draw at Ipswich Town's headquarters. This result certainly makes Manchester United fans return to frustration mode after seeing positive results when handled by Van Nistelrooy.
I can understand what Amorim experienced in his first game in charge of Manchester United, he clearly needed time to end the negative results achieved when he was still handled by Ten Hag. I hope Manchester United's misery doesn't continue on his hands, he needs to quickly sort out the problems that are happening in his squad by winning games, but this will take time.

The fans are disappointed because of the recent progress man Utd has during Van Nistelrooy they all put mare expectations on amorin especially after his recent win to man City with a 4-1 victory and a fine display they all expected something like that against the newly qualified Ipswich town
They are much positivity e.g Man Utd holding possession which is not common in man Utds game so he might need more time as amorin also believe In the players

Come on guys, I think 1 draw that Amorim got shouldn't make us compare him to Nistelrooy, Amorim has just coached Manchester United and in a short period of time of course he won't be able to change Manchester United for the better unless he has a magic wand in his hand, we know how Manchester United went down before so it's natural that fans have high expectations for Amorim at the moment,  Especially after he managed to beat Manchester City in the Champions League match, but even so, fans should still support Amorim with time and also great trust for him can restore Manchester United performance later.

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To be honest, Manchester United fans were a little disappointed with the results they had just achieved, Amorim failed to make a sweet debut in the EPL after only being able to draw at Ipswich Town's headquarters. This result certainly makes Manchester United fans return to frustration mode after seeing positive results when handled by Van Nistelrooy.
I can understand what Amorim experienced in his first game in charge of Manchester United, he clearly needed time to end the negative results achieved when he was still handled by Ten Hag. I hope Manchester United's misery doesn't continue on his hands, he needs to quickly sort out the problems that are happening in his squad by winning games, but this will take time.

Any Manchester united fan who feels disappointed about the Ipswich - Manchester united scoreline result is really frank with himself because from what we all know that this United team is very below any surprising performance at the moment and Amorim can't come in within a few days and create a sudden upset.

Ruud  Van Nistelrooy only had to maintain the style of play of ETH in the Manchester way as an assistant manager who knew what the players are already accustomed to. On the flip side, Amorim is altering the accustomed pattern and it's going to take a length of time to have the team start playing good football in the tactics and pattern of the new coach. Also follows will be the signing of new good players and letting go of existing not needed players in the team but all of these has to be on a gradual process.

[Mayor of ogba]

A less than satisfactory debut for Amorim with Man Utd, but the draw did seem fair because Ipswich Town played very well at home, they were able to match Man Utd and even had better shots on target. With this result, hopefully Amorim can soon find the right formation that suits his wishes plus quickly adapt to the Premier League.

I will not say that Amorim's debut at Manchester United was a less satisfactory debut because we all know the situation that surrounds Manchester United, and we can't expect Amorim to perform miracles or magic at Manchester United at this time. Ipswich dominated Manchester United in this match, and if not that Manchester United scored an early goal against them, Ipswich would have beaten Manchester United in this match. Finding the right formation to use for this current Manchester United squad will not totally solve Manchester United problems. Manchester United needs some good players who can help the club play well and challenge for the league title.

[Ryu_Ar1]

West Ham result is a bit unexpected, Newcastle has hardly lost a home game against any club, and they just lost to West Ham, a team that had won one of their previous three games. Of course, West Ham's victory over Newcastle was important since even Manchester City has yet to defeat Newcastle at home this season. However, victory against Newcastle does not mean we should feel confident in their games, Arsenal is back to its best form, and they will give it their all to win every Premier League game. I am confident that Arsenal will easily defeat West Ham in the next Premier League meeting.

Even though their current momentum is quite good where they get 2 wins in the previous 2 weeks, it cannot be maximized properly in this match. In addition, we also know that this home game is clearly favorable for them but surprises really happen in this match.

But it cannot be denied that in the end we are also aware that Newcastle's current performance is still erratic so indeed this defeat is still fairly reasonable in the end.
Consistency is still a problem that Newcastle still cannot solve well and it is evident in several matches they have played including in this match that they are still experiencing several problems including finishing and cooperation in their defense.

[Obari]

It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes.

Who's facing difficulties at Old Trafford, the players or the new manager? There's absolutely nothing to comment about currently because the players are yet to get really along with the new coach. Amorim needs more time to make perfect executive strategy for the club, let's see how things go from his ends as manager.

Accomplish great outcome for Manchester United, there are new set of strategies and signings to reach his ultimate goals. I strongly believe the new manager will make things very serious at Old Trafford. He's competent to handle this position, he's always one step ahead at former team, Sporting CP. Perhaps this is England and there are new oppositions for him, Amorim will make things happen. Ruben Amorim will trigger changes in the Manchester United team January transfer window. The manager have promising plans for the team, we're watching him closely, he draw his first game and we see as that's going for the club.

[SquallLeonhart]

Onana providing that one point to United was the unexpected part, he is usually the worst one, and to be fair he almost got the goal they conceded as well, he was reaching it but defender put his head in, if it didn't touch United players, Onana would have saved that one too, which shows how amazing he could become when he is playing a good game, normally he isn't that great but this inconsistency is the reason fans are not sure about him.

De Gea for example had a level, he wasn't the greatest goalkeeper ever, but he had a level and he always played at that level, maybe he had some good games and bad games too, but not this volatile at all, Onana's best game is by far better than anything De Gea has ever done in all the years he was at United, but also Onana's worst game is much worse than a fifth division goalkeeper as well, I still remember the UCL game against Galatasaray they had, I could have done better lol. So, it's definitely a questionable situation.

[samuraijin]

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It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes. Although a change of coach often leads to the players behaving more enthusiastically on the field. Well, a miracle did not happen, he has a difficult job ahead of him, actually I did not expect anything else, I think that we will be able to see changes after the winter transfer window, when he takes several players from Sporting to Manchester United, and until then he will be looking for which players are suitable for further work with him.

To be honest, Manchester United fans were a little disappointed with the results they had just achieved, Amorim failed to make a sweet debut in the EPL after only being able to draw at Ipswich Town's headquarters. This result certainly makes Manchester United fans return to frustration mode after seeing positive results when handled by Van Nistelrooy.
I can understand what Amorim experienced in his first game in charge of Manchester United, he clearly needed time to end the negative results achieved when he was still handled by Ten Hag. I hope Manchester United's misery doesn't continue on his hands, he needs to quickly sort out the problems that are happening in his squad by winning games, but this will take time.

In fact, the draw that Amorim got at the beginning of his coaching in handling Manchester United was indeed not easy, but this draw was a positive result for Amorim so at least it gave him the opportunity to continue to provide support to him, and also the spirit in overhauling the current players, it takes adjustments in providing tactics from the players handled by Ten Hag before, so no matter how great the coach is, it needs what is called adjustment and adaptation from the Portuguese League to the English League in terms of the game, there must be a difference in the scheme.

[hahay]

A less than satisfactory debut for Amorim with Man Utd, but the draw did seem fair because Ipswich Town played very well at home, they were able to match Man Utd and even had better shots on target. With this result, hopefully Amorim can soon find the right formation that suits his wishes plus quickly adapt to the Premier League.

I will not say that Amorim's debut at Manchester United was a less satisfactory debut because we all know the situation that surrounds Manchester United, and we can't expect Amorim to perform miracles or magic at Manchester United at this time. Ipswich dominated Manchester United in this match, and if not that Manchester United scored an early goal against them, Ipswich would have beaten Manchester United in this match. Finding the right formation to use for this current Manchester United squad will not totally solve Manchester United problems. Manchester United needs some good players who can help the club play well and challenge for the league title.

If the opponent was not Ipswich, then I would also say it is reasonable for a draw result like that. But, because Manchester United opponent is only a promotion team Ipswich who is also in the bottom zone of the standings and then, this draw result is still a bad result and a bad debut for Amorim. After all, I also watched the match and in fact, Manchester United indeed play badly, Manchester United did not have a good performance like when it was with Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

After all, the reason Manchester United still appointed Amorim as a head coach was also because Manchester United believed that Amorim had quality. Do not let, because this reason is only about a debut  and takes time, but the fact remains that there is no good change for Manchester United from time to time. Because after all, about the previous coaches who got fired also at the beginning they were given the same time as is happening now, but in the end they still failed.