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November 25, 2024, 11:18:26 AM
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Actually in that match Ipswich was a better side than Manchester united and they had deserved to win the game but unfortunately had to settle down with a draw. Base on stats they were better at shots on expected goals but they wasted almost all chances. It was really an intensed match especially for the red devils which means the strategy of the new coach and the players haven't blend yet.

But however, I think I have to agree with you on this about the players performance which would really need some changes in the team with some players having to leave the club as one of the remedy for the new coach to start getting progressive results with less struggles on winning matches especially against weak teams.
It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes. Although a change of coach often leads to the players behaving more enthusiastically on the field. Well, a miracle did not happen, he has a difficult job ahead of him, actually I did not expect anything else, I think that we will be able to see changes after the winter transfer window, when he takes several players from Sporting to Manchester United, and until then he will be looking for which players are suitable for further work with him.

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November 25, 2024, 12:11:38 PM
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Been the debut match for the new manager most fans would have thought that it was going to be a walk over game for Manchester united as they are playing against not too strong team in the premier league. But this is just a message to Amotim to understand how tough the EPL could be unlike where he is coming from, in the premiership no team is small especially playing at home ground.

It was actually a wonderful performance from Ipswich playing with some resilience forcing the game to a stalemate against a Manchester united side who we thought would have given us a convincing victory with their new coach Amorim.
The first match that did not meet expectations for Amorim because in this match Manchester United faced a team that was at the bottom of the standings but they failed to take advantage of the opportunity to collect 3 points. It was indeed not an easy job for Amorim to immediately bring victory because he needed time to adjust the strategy and find the ideal formation to bring changes to Manchester United's playing style.
Actually in that match Ipswich was a better side than Manchester united and they had deserved to win the game but unfortunately had to settle down with a draw. Base on stats they were better at shots on expected goals but they wasted almost all chances. It was really an intensed match especially for the red devils which means the strategy of the new coach and the players haven't blend yet.


Ipswich did everything very well. They have dominated the game and tried so hard adding another goals. They can't score due to Onana's sensational performance. He's the one who saved United from getting bantered by other clubs fans.

Ipswich rarely wasted their chances. all of their attempts were blocked by Onana. They were not fortunate enough.

I was sure they could score 2 or 3 if Onana was underperform.

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November 25, 2024, 12:26:51 PM
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A less than satisfactory debut for Amorim with Man Utd, but the draw did seem fair because Ipswich Town played very well at home, they were able to match Man Utd and even had better shots on target. With this result, hopefully Amorim can soon find the right formation that suits his wishes plus quickly adapt to the Premier League.

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November 25, 2024, 12:30:10 PM
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Actually in that match Ipswich was a better side than Manchester united and they had deserved to win the game but unfortunately had to settle down with a draw. Base on stats they were better at shots on expected goals but they wasted almost all chances. It was really an intensed match especially for the red devils which means the strategy of the new coach and the players haven't blend yet.

But however, I think I have to agree with you on this about the players performance which would really need some changes in the team with some players having to leave the club as one of the remedy for the new coach to start getting progressive results with less struggles on winning matches especially against weak teams.
It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes. Although a change of coach often leads to the players behaving more enthusiastically on the field. Well, a miracle did not happen, he has a difficult job ahead of him, actually I did not expect anything else, I think that we will be able to see changes after the winter transfer window, when he takes several players from Sporting to Manchester United, and until then he will be looking for which players are suitable for further work with him.
When Amorim came into Manchester united and immediately won 3 or 4 matches in a row, many of us here were praising him and saying finally, Manchester united now have a very good coach who will revive the club, I was of the opinion that he should be given time before we all start praising him, but some of us didn't actually buy into that.


It's like one user said that the draw against ipswich is not actually a draw on Manchester united, but feels more like a lost game on them, and this is because of all, ipswich is still considered a very weak club with not much talented players, it was expected that their game with Manchester united should be an easy win for man united, but unfortunately, even with an early goal, they still could not score another goals, and later on conceded an equalizer goal..

Anyways, I completely with you, lets see the decisions the new coach will be making during the transfer window, and let's see how the man united team will improve afterwards.

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November 25, 2024, 03:33:54 PM
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Ipswich did everything very well. They have dominated the game and tried so hard adding another goals. They can't score due to Onana's sensational performance. He's the one who saved United from getting bantered by other clubs fans.

Ipswich rarely wasted their chances. all of their attempts were blocked by Onana. They were not fortunate enough.

I was sure they could score 2 or 3 if Onana was underperform.

He was heavily lambasted and criticized last season after he conceded too many goals that wasn't his fault, right now he is having a top performance in the Premier League competition and not getting the credits he deserves?

Ipswich was the better side the other day, I must say they should have won if they were more clinical when it comes to finishing the chances they had.
All the fans who painted Andrea Onana to he poor are mute right now. He should ne be my MoTM yesterday.

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November 25, 2024, 03:45:08 PM
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As I predicted before, the Southampton vs Liverpool match will create many goals and 5 goals were scored by both clubs.
Mohammad Salah saved Liverpool from defeat, this victory further strengthened Liverpool at the top of the standings.
Arne Slot's first season at this club was accompanied by inconsistent performances from his competitors, making him have the opportunity to achieve something impressive in his first season,  one title could be Liverpool's.
I was very surprised with the way Southampton played against Liverpool yesterday. I didn't expect Southampton would score two goals against Liverpool in this match and even be a tough opponent for Liverpool to beat. But even with the good performance of Southampton yesterday, Liverpool still shows that they had what it takes to beat Southampton at home, all thanks to Mohammed Salah's late goal that gave Liverpool the lead against Southampton yesterday. Since Arne Slot became Liverpool head coach, he has shown good performance and guided Liverpool to the top of the Premier League table, and if continued with the form, he might achieve great things with Liverpool this season.

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November 25, 2024, 04:50:37 PM
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A less than satisfactory debut for Amorim with Man Utd, but the draw did seem fair because Ipswich Town played very well at home, they were able to match Man Utd and even had better shots on target. With this result, hopefully Amorim can soon find the right formation that suits his wishes plus quickly adapt to the Premier League.
The 1-1 draw against a team in the bottom flight is of course a negative result for Amorim in his debut match at Manchester United as a coach, but for a team like Ipswich Town to get 1 point from big team as Manchester United is a very happy thing, both teams in the match played quite impressively and even Ipswich Town who lost in terms of player quality was able to make the Manchester United squad  hard work to avoid defeat after the aggressive of their attack, I think Red Devils fans cannot be disappointed with the results they have achieved in that match, because after all Amorim need time to find the right formation and strategy, especially to adapt to the high intensity and style of play of the Premier League compared to the Portuguese league.
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It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes.
If Amorim didn’t sign new players, then I don’t think Manchester United will achieve anything serious, he just has to allow some players to leave the club and then sign some players. It’s obvious that Manchester United's problem is not only the coach, but some players need to leave the club, and Amorim will have to be given time to improve the club’s performance, Manchester United fans shouldn’t just expect changes within a short period of time. When the transfer window is open, I am sure he will sign some players who will be able to play the pattern that he wants.

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November 25, 2024, 05:08:09 PM
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It was hard to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes.
If Amorim didn’t sign new players, then I don’t think Manchester United will achieve anything serious, he just has to allow some players to leave the club and then sign some players. It’s obvious that Manchester United's problem is not only the coach, but some players need to leave the club, and Amorim will have to be given time to improve the club’s performance, Manchester United fans shouldn’t just expect changes within a short period of time. When the transfer window is open, I am sure he will sign some players who will be able to play the pattern that he wants.

What fans want is something fast. However we can see United in bad condition, and his arrival to the team will make there will be great expectations.
Maybe fans do not want to know the process, but the most important thing is the club understands the process. To make United its golden age, of course, is not easy. At that time they had top-world players in the team and when they competed, they were always feared by their opponents. If you want to prepare United to be like that, then it will take a lot of money to bring in players according to the coach's wishes. And the process will certainly be done gradually.

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November 25, 2024, 05:12:12 PM
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Ipswich did everything very well. They have dominated the game and tried so hard adding another goals. They can't score due to Onana's sensational performance. He's the one who saved United from getting bantered by other clubs fans.

Ipswich rarely wasted their chances. all of their attempts were blocked by Onana. They were not fortunate enough.

I was sure they could score 2 or 3 if Onana was underperform.
After incredible saves Andre Onana made in Manchester United's game at Ipswich Town yesterday, I think it's safe to say that
the Manchester United goalkeeper have been the best goalie in the English Premier League this season. The Cameroon international did face series of criticisms in his first game for the club but have significantly improved since the start of the season. I think Onana will play a huge role in Ruben Amorim's reign as a Manchester United manager.
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November 25, 2024, 05:21:57 PM
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d to believe that Amorim is capable of achieving any other results without changes. Although a change of coach often leads to the players behaving more enthusiastically on the field. Well, a miracle did not happen, he has a difficult job ahead of him, actually I did not expect anything else, I think that we will be able to see changes after the winter transfer window, when he takes several players from Sporting to Manchester United, and until then he will be looking for which players are suitable for further work with him.


I don't even see where Mancehster United are better in terms of statistics in this match because regardless of anything their performance is still the same even though they are still superior in possession and indeed this is quite natural with the strength of their team, but I don't see them much better than shots or on target because seeing from what happened it was Ipswich who were better in this match.

Honestly, although this result is still good enough for Manchster United and Amorim because they can still save 1 point, this certainly makes them lose the momentum that van Nistelrooy has created in the previous few matches and now there is nothing Amorim can do but adapt faster because after all, as long as he still has unsatisfactory results, criticism and waves of comparisons between him and van Nisetlrooy will continue to occur.
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I don't even see where Mancehster United are better in terms of statistics in this match because regardless of anything their performance is still the same even though they are still superior in possession and indeed this is quite natural with the strength of their team, but I don't see them much better than shots or on target because seeing from what happened it was Ipswich who were better in this match.

Honestly, although this result is still good enough for Manchster United and Amorim because they can still save 1 point, this certainly makes them lose the momentum that van Nistelrooy has created in the previous few matches and now there is nothing Amorim can do but adapt faster because after all, as long as he still has unsatisfactory results, criticism and waves of comparisons between him and van Nisetlrooy will continue to occur.
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It's pointless to have all this ball possession and not create big chances with it. See how the game Manchester City against Tottenham went. Manchester City was superior in almost all statistics and for Tottenham it was a conversion rate of their chances of almost 60% while Manchester City couldn't score a single goal despite having 23 shots and 92 passing accuracy and superior ball possession. But this is not the first game that Manchester City had this problem and Manchester United has this problem almost all the time. In 80% of their games they have higher ball possession and yet they can't win it.

In the case of Manchester City it strikes me as odd because they have strikers like Haaland and you wouldn't that he isn't able to score when the team generates 23 tries.

I was wondering whether high ball possession is still the way to win most of the games. Most people will give an easy answers and that is the less the opponent has the ball, the less they can score goals, but this has changed for a couple of teams. High ball possession is still not the end game. It is to understand how to make use of it.

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November 25, 2024, 05:52:37 PM
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It came as a surprise that Liverpool had such difficulties in beating Southampton. We are talking about an opponent at the bottom of the standings. They really fought back hard.

But Salah is just amazing... He played a big role today with 2 goals as well. 10 goals and 6 assists already in the league. Liverpool would be really sad when they probably lose him next summer.

By the way Amorim started to play with a 3-defender formation right away.  Grin  He really likes it but today unfortunately it didn't work out. But in the long term maybe his formation start working smoothly.
I thought Liverpool would get an easy win in that match. But the result was beyond my expectation. Southampton is the bottom team so I predicted Liverpool to win with a score of 3-0. But in fact they had a hard time getting a win. I thought the match would end in a draw with a score of 2-2.

On the other hand, the result of the Manchester United vs Ipswich match made some fans disappointed with Amorim. Initially they thought Amorim could give United a win because compared to Ipswich, they should be an easy opponent for them. But the match ended in a draw and people started comparing Amorim's performance with Nistelrooy. But I don't think we can expect United to be a good team straight away. Amorim has to maximize the squad with resources so he still can't show the performance like Sporting. I think Amorim will do some rotation and will look for some players in the transfer market this time.

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It was a really interesting week in the Premier League. We witnessed Manchester City getting destroyed by Tottenham and Liverpool increasing the point difference to 8 with them. I can't say Liverpool were comfortable though. They were really bad at defending against a competitor having a terrible season. They won anyway maybe but Arne Slot had better learn some lessons from the defensive weaknesses.  Sad

By the way this penalty call for Southampton looked odd to me. It looks like the challenge is right outside the penalty area rather than being on that white lane but anyway...


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A less than satisfactory debut for Amorim with Man Utd, but the draw did seem fair because Ipswich Town played very well at home, they were able to match Man Utd and even had better shots on target. With this result, hopefully Amorim can soon find the right formation that suits his wishes plus quickly adapt to the Premier League.

Ruben Amorim said something about Manchester United, he said the team are afraid and slow and you know what, the guy is too right about that because tell me why Manchester United can't win IPswitch Town when they have only win 1 match out 12 matches that has been played? It doesn't make sense, they have draw most but Manchester United are in a better place to win those guys in that game but they draw, that's a poor game but because Amorim is new, I will let this one slide.

The only thing left with this team that is giving me confidence is because they have not lose a single game since Ten Hag left the club, the team has improve small but this is not enough. Been in 12 place in Premeir league table when the table is already half is sounding life top 4 is not guaranteed yes but if the team can comes up with a better strategy to win games, they will improve and with consistency, they can climb that top 4 like the way Chelsea did.

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November 25, 2024, 09:38:56 PM
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As I predicted before, the Southampton vs Liverpool match will create many goals and 5 goals were scored by both clubs.
Mohammad Salah saved Liverpool from defeat, this victory further strengthened Liverpool at the top of the standings.
Arne Slot's first season at this club was accompanied by inconsistent performances from his competitors, making him have the opportunity to achieve something impressive in his first season,  one title could be Liverpool's.
I was very surprised with the way Southampton played against Liverpool yesterday. I didn't expect Southampton would score two goals against Liverpool in this match and even be a tough opponent for Liverpool to beat. But even with the good performance of Southampton yesterday, Liverpool still shows that they had what it takes to beat Southampton at home, all thanks to Mohammed Salah's late goal that gave Liverpool the lead against Southampton yesterday. Since Arne Slot became Liverpool head coach, he has shown good performance and guided Liverpool to the top of the Premier League table, and if continued with the form, he might achieve great things with Liverpool this season.
Of course whenever Liverpool are playing with Southampton they normally find it difficult to win easily, already before kick-off I knew that it will going to be a though match for Liverpool because looking at their past head to head Southampton had a 4-4 draw with them. To be honest with you I was not surprised about the performance of Southampton in that game because already both teams clash are always though. However, if not for the late goal by Mohamed Salah I think the game would have just ended in 2-2 draw.

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November 25, 2024, 11:26:04 PM
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It was a really interesting week in the Premier League. We witnessed Manchester City getting destroyed by Tottenham and Liverpool increasing the point difference to 8 with them. I can't say Liverpool were comfortable though. They were really bad at defending against a competitor having a terrible season. They won anyway maybe but Arne Slot had better learn some lessons from the defensive weaknesses.  Sad

By the way this penalty call for Southampton looked odd to me. It looks like the challenge is right outside the penalty area rather than being on that white lane but anyway...



Well the penatly to me is clear because his body was inside the penalty box and thats an automatic penalty it dosent matter even if the ball is out of the penalty box,but even the ball was inside so for me this is a clear penalty. Liverpool has a comfortable lead and how other teams are playing i see only Arsenal making a threat to them

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It's surprising how we are all carried away with Manchester united and Amorin discussion to the extent we forgot Newcastle played against westham united yesterday and lost at their home.

Perhaps, Westham united had their best game yesterday after a very long time. They fought hard for the victory and the result justify it. I was actually not confident before the game but it turned out otherwise. The big question now is how long can they uphold a performance like this? Their next game is against Arsenal. What are your thoughts?

 
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November 26, 2024, 07:22:02 AM
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I was very surprised with the way Southampton played against Liverpool yesterday. I didn't expect Southampton would score two goals against Liverpool in this match and even be a tough opponent for Liverpool to beat. But even with the good performance of Southampton yesterday, Liverpool still shows that they had what it takes to beat Southampton at home, all thanks to Mohammed Salah's late goal that gave Liverpool the lead against Southampton yesterday. Since Arne Slot became Liverpool head coach, he has shown good performance and guided Liverpool to the top of the Premier League table, and if continued with the form, he might achieve great things with Liverpool this season.
To be honest, it didn't look like Liverpool expected that neither, they were caught off guard, they expected Southampton to eventually give up, which many small teams eventually do, and the way that Southampton started so well and did alright all through the game, nobody expected them to be this great. In the end, Liverpool still got the win, and they are still leading the league, the gap is bigger now and we are seeing them do very well, I didn't expected them to do this great, and I am quite happy to see that Liverpool is back at the top all over.

At the start of the season, I have to be honest and say that I bet on City to win again, because it looked like City was the only one, and even Arsenal was second in my mind, because Liverpool had a managerial change, Klopp left and Arne Slott came, so I didn't expected them to be this great at all. This is definitely a great move and I am sure that we are going to have a lot more fun with Liverpool when they face Real Madrid at UCL.

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November 26, 2024, 09:55:43 AM
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It's surprising how we are all carried away with Manchester united and Amorin discussion to the extent we forgot Newcastle played against westham united yesterday and lost at their home.

Perhaps, Westham united had their best game yesterday after a very long time. They fought hard for the victory and the result justify it. I was actually not confident before the game but it turned out otherwise. The big question now is how long can they uphold a performance like this? Their next game is against Arsenal. What are your thoughts?

We anticipated a lot from Amorim in his debut game against Ipswich Town, and there are high hopes for him. I believe that even if Guardiola came to Manchester United, he would fail because they lacked the ability to beat any of their opponents this season. If Manchester United fails to finish in the top four this season, I will not blame him since Ten Hag failed to get the best players on which a team may rely this season. But let's continue to observe their next few games.

West Ham result is a bit unexpected, Newcastle has hardly lost a home game against any club, and they just lost to West Ham, a team that had won one of their previous three games. Of course, West Ham's victory over Newcastle was important since even Manchester City has yet to defeat Newcastle at home this season. However, victory against Newcastle does not mean we should feel confident in their games, Arsenal is back to its best form, and they will give it their all to win every Premier League game. I am confident that Arsenal will easily defeat West Ham in the next Premier League meeting.

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