⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[aylabadia05]

Manchester United couldn't beat Everton with 10 men. Before the match, they were aiming for a top-four finish, but after this match, that goal seems unrealistic because if you can't beat Everton with a man down, then making the top four seems impossible. From Everton's perspective, they made history with 10 men. Everton defended brilliantly, keeping a clean sheet, and even scoring a goal.

Strange. A strange result, but that's the final outcome. The first oddity occurred when Gana Gueye received a red card after an incident with Keane. I watched the live stream to see why the referee suddenly gave a red card after a quick Manchester United attack.
The second oddity was that Manchester United's forwards, Mbeumo, Zirkzee, and Amad, were too selfish, especially Amad and Mbeumo, who, uncharacteristically, supported each other in passing when one was in an empty area.

Winning is certainly the goal, but when it doesn't happen, I don't think it's a serious problem. We consider the result far from lucky.
Everton were good defensively. Otherwise, nothing special.
Pickford deserved to be the best player of the match with six saves.

[Pulsar77]

Let's look at the table now after Week 12, shall we?



Arsenal are so comfortable at the top by being 6 points away from Chelsea. If this isn't the season they become the champions then when will it be? 

Chelsea's progress is really impressive. They finished last season as 4th and now they are in 2nd place. It's likely to finish the season there for them but competing Manchester City for it will be really tough.

Liverpool are so disappointing. If they move on with Slot I can't see a good future anymore.

[Amphenomenon]

For me I would say it depends on the team they are playing against, some teams if you dare go a man down against them, they would smoke you and score even more goals. Just imagine a lower ranked team in the Bundesliga going a man down against Bayern Munich of today, that team will certainly concede lots of goals. I do get your stand point of it being difficult for certain teams to win against a 10 men team because they will certainly play defence against that team, but their are certain teams, if you try doing that especially when you're a man down, they will use that opening spot to punish you.

10 against 11 matter on your team spirit and tactics, and against a team like Manchester united giving your all will likely give you a win or a draw and looking at this game last night it reminds me of our Maresca made the wrong decisions removing key attackers against Manchester united when we got a red card also.

Where are the United fans shouting we are back ?
They have gone back to their default: AmorimOut 😆

[Fakhrulenclix]

Strange. A strange result, but that's the final outcome. The first oddity occurred when Gana Gueye received a red card after an incident with Keane. I watched the live stream to see why the referee suddenly gave a red card after a quick Manchester United attack.
The second oddity was that Manchester United's forwards, Mbeumo, Zirkzee, and Amad, were too selfish, especially Amad and Mbeumo, who, uncharacteristically, supported each other in passing when one was in an empty area.

Winning is certainly the goal, but when it doesn't happen, I don't think it's a serious problem. We consider the result far from lucky.
Everton were good defensively. Otherwise, nothing special.
Pickford deserved to be the best player of the match with six saves.

It seems the media has exaggerated Manchester United's resurgence, making the players very egotistical and that was evident in this match.
This wasn't bad luck, Manchester United simply played poorly and the loss was a setback for them, one that will likely impact their next match. Since then, I've been skeptical of the many reports claiming Manchester United have recovered from their slump, they're still the same as last season.

[Bigjoe33]

Manchester United has lost its identity, seemingly lacking direction and purpose in matches. A match they should have won ended in a humiliating defeat. Interestingly, Everton, who visited Old Trafford, received a penalty from the referee for reckless behavior, but the Toffees managed to win the match, embarrassing the Red Devils in front of their fans.

We have seen good performances from Manchester united before the international break. They were unbeaten in 5 consecutive matches. Manchester United won against Liverpool , sunderland  and Brighton. But now we are seeing irregular performances from the team again. Manchester United lost against teams like Everton. It is really sad. Manchester United should have performed more carefully against weaker opponents. Amorim has not been able  to stabilize the team yet. Even after giving him enough time, he could not succeed.

It's was a shocking full time score line yesterday. We all expected Manchester United to win Everton yesterday due to there fine play these days. They have won some matches and we all feel they are gradually coming back to form. It's quite surprising that they lost the match even considering the fact that Everton got a red card early in the first half of the game, and with the same red card scores Manchester United still in thatvfurst half, and not only that, they went along to win the match completely away from home with a man down. I'm the side of Everton, what a nice performance, but from the home teams angle, what a poor performance from United.

Anyways, football is just like that, difficult to predict correctly, and is always full of surprises. Just like Nottingham Forest surprised us few days ago, stunning Liverpool 3:0 at Anfield, the same has repeatedly happened as we see United loosing at home even with a red card from the visiting team. If United would really end well this season, then they have to do better in games like this

[M47AK16]

Just when a number of fans thought that Manchester United had finally regained form and things had started to get right, tonight they got a harsh reminder that things are far from perfect. Some fans were even suggesting that United would compete for the top four. How can a team that can fail to beat a 10-man Everton team at home honestly get into the top 4? Personally, I don't think they are ready yet.

After watching this game I am really shocked because they play 80 minutes against 10 men Everton with 70% ball control and 23 shots on goal but still nothing happen mean they were hyped in last few games they are still crap like they were in last season.

There is no chance for them to have spot into top 6 in this season even if they are going to play like this most chances they will be hardly able to have spot into top half of Premier League Ruben Amorim doing good, but sadly he can't do any improvement into ground which is the most important thing to do. After few days they are going to face Crystal Palace which is having much better depth then Everton if they have no improvement things are going to be troubling, and they are not going to have positive results in this game as well.

[Obari]

Let's look at the table now after Week 12, shall we?



Arsenal are so comfortable at the top by being 6 points away from Chelsea. If this isn't the season they become the champions then when will it be? 

Chelsea's progress is really impressive. They finished last season as 4th and now they are in 2nd place. It's likely to finish the season there for them but competing Manchester City for it will be really tough.

Liverpool are so disappointing. If they move on with Slot I can't see a good future anymore.

Arsenal are in their possible shape this season. What more can we expect from Arsenal? They've proven to be the very best team in the English Premier League. No way they're stopping or holding their guts down because winning is important and compulsory for Gunners at this point in time. Mikel Arteta planned the whole settings and today we're already watching the good part of Gunners. I say this for free, Gunners now have that particular driven force and will not slow down because slowing down will actually cost them huge setbacks.

Chelsea and Manchester City seem like the only competent oppositions that would become huge threat for the club. They will fly higher If they're able to maintain consistency in their games but if not, I wonder what the club can do to make it happen. This is still very to start concluding on the teams that will win the English Premier League.

[Iroh]

After watching this game I am really shocked because they play 80 minutes against 10 men Everton with 70% ball control and 23 shots on goal but still nothing happen mean they were hyped in last few games they are still crap like they were in last season.

There is no chance for them to have spot into top 6 in this season even if they are going to play like this most chances they will be hardly able to have spot into top half of Premier League Ruben Amorim doing good, but sadly he can't do any improvement into ground which is the most important thing to do. After few days they are going to face Crystal Palace which is having much better depth then Everton if they have no improvement things are going to be troubling, and they are not going to have positive results in this game as well.

It was really surprising to have Man United playing at an advantage for most of the game and still couldn't use that to their actual advantage. I read a comment on here about how Everton got more serious when they had the red card early on in the first half. It's quite true as they managed to score a goal and hold Man United down all through the game from equalizing.
Although i didn't think it would be an easy game for either side, i thought this would be another 3 points for United and was disappointed to see Everton hold their own despite playing with a man down and defending against lots of attacks. It's quite difficult predicting Man United's performance going forward. The next game against Crystal palace could be a difficult one.

[Qhunman]

Let's look at the table now after Week 12, shall we?



Arsenal are so comfortable at the top by being 6 points away from Chelsea. If this isn't the season they become the champions then when will it be? 

Chelsea's progress is really impressive. They finished last season as 4th and now they are in 2nd place. It's likely to finish the season there for them but competing Manchester City for it will be really tough.

Liverpool are so disappointing. If they move on with Slot I can't see a good future anymore.

Arsenal is very consistent this season but their shouldn't be comfortable, they should continue winnings because Manchester City and Chelsea may still catch up with them in the race.

Chelsea Form has improved significantly this season,the blues is 6 Points behind Arsenal and 1 point ahead of Manchester city in the  English Premier League table. Chelsea and Manchester City are well inform this season, there are occupying the 2nd & 3rd positions in the English Premier League. Chelsea and Manchester City are the only serious contender for the English Premier League title.

[BALIK]

Arsenal is very consistent this season but their shouldn't be comfortable, they should continue winnings because Manchester City and Chelsea may still catch up with them in the race.

Chelsea Form has improved significantly this season,the blues is 6 Points behind Arsenal and 1 point ahead of Manchester city in the  English Premier League table. Chelsea and Manchester City are well inform this season, there are occupying the 2nd & 3rd positions in the English Premier League. Chelsea and Manchester City are the only serious contender for the English Premier League title.

Arsenal is completely in the safe zone. The team is able to perform consistently well. Also, the performance of the other clubs who are competing for the title is inconsistent. This is why it has become easier for Arsenal to occupy the top spot of the table.

We are seeing inconsistent performance from each of the teams Manchester City, Liverpool, United, Tottenham and Chelsea. Among them, Tottenham, United and Liverpool have been eliminated from the title race. Chelsea's performance has been somewhat stable in recent times. However, it is still unknown whether the team can do well consistently. If Chelsea's performance is stable, this team will probably compete with Arsenal for the title. Chelsea is now 6 points behind Arsenal.

[slapper]

Manchester United couldn't beat Everton with 10 men. Before the match, they were aiming for a top-four finish, but after this match, that goal seems unrealistic because if you can't beat Everton with a man down, then making the top four seems impossible. From Everton's perspective, they made history with 10 men. Everton defended brilliantly, keeping a clean sheet, and even scoring a goal.

Strange. A strange result, but that's the final outcome. The first oddity occurred when Gana Gueye received a red card after an incident with Keane. I watched the live stream to see why the referee suddenly gave a red card after a quick Manchester United attack.
The second oddity was that Manchester United's forwards, Mbeumo, Zirkzee, and Amad, were too selfish, especially Amad and Mbeumo, who, uncharacteristically, supported each other in passing when one was in an empty area.

Winning is certainly the goal, but when it doesn't happen, I don't think it's a serious problem. We consider the result far from lucky.
Everton were good defensively. Otherwise, nothing special.
Pickford deserved to be the best player of the match with six saves.

Gueye getting sent off for slapping Keane should've been the point where Everton mentally crumble and United smell blood. Rather, Everton make their life so easy immediately: 5 in the back, 4 up front, no need to attack, just survive. The ones that appear confused with the state of the game is United.

On the first three, I agree with the selfish appeal. But it's more than that. They were like a pack of forwards who do not know how to do harm a high line. Zirkzee dropping into traffic, Amad forcing shots, Mbeumo not really attacking the box... It was all "we have no plan of 10 men and a low block" all the way around. The sub player was a safe-pass centre-back, rather than an additional man in threat areas.

I don't think you can just shrug this off with "Everton were good defensively, nothing special otherwise". It is almost impossible to hear a 10-man Everton winning at Old Trafford. When it occurs in a season where United are trapped mid-table, it is the project demonstrating to you its ceiling: good when required to be chaotic, lost when they are expected to be in control and create.

[1kodumtek7]

First of all it was a superb performance by Arsenal. They didn't even let Tottenham try their chance for once in the first half. That dominance was incredible. I should add that Eze made a great hat-trick too. He will consolidate his place in the lineup certainly.

Yesterday I was really bored with Manchester United's performance. They deserved that loss with that very bad accuracy. I miss the good old version of them. They had high quality players once but for years their transfer strategies are really poor.

It's good that Arsenal doesn't depend on a striker for their goals, that's the good thing about them. The manager didn't build the team all around a striker, they do get their goals with or without a striker. Not that I'm undermining the effectiveness of Gyokeres but it is what it is. I hope he comes back before the Bayern Munich match, for now let him rest. For the BTTS part, I'm sure Arsenal will score, they have been doing it all season long just except for that Liverpool match. If Tottenham scores, then both teams to score is sure.

It could be the best thing Arteta is doing with Arsenal this season. The team isn't dependent on any specific player. There have been so many missing players but still they managed to keep their game at top level. 

[Stable090]

After watching this game I am really shocked because they play 80 minutes against 10 men Everton with 70% ball control and 23 shots on goal but still nothing happen mean they were hyped in last few games they are still crap like they were in last season.

It’s surprising how Manchester United lost the match, they created lots of chances in the match, but they missed all, Everton played with 10 players, how did they even manage to get a win in the match, I just keep on asking myself different questions about the match. Manchester United had lots of chances, and they couldn’t get even a draw in the match.

Before the match started, most people believed Manchester United will win the match, because Everton are not in form, and Manchester United plays better than them, but Everton received red card in the match, and they still won the match, Manchester United are suppose to be ashamed.

There is a little improvement in Manchester United, but with their current performance, they cant end the season in champions league zone, I don’t think that’s going to be possible this season, with the way United are playing.

[SatoPrincess]

Manchester United couldn't beat Everton with 10 men. Before the match, they were aiming for a top-four finish, but after this match, that goal seems unrealistic because if you can't beat Everton with a man down, then making the top four seems impossible. From Everton's perspective, they made history with 10 men. Everton defended brilliantly, keeping a clean sheet, and even scoring a goal.

I’d say Manchester United had 12 players on their side in that match lol. I don’t know what Idrissa and Keane were on last night but they better get their head straight. It’s funny that Manchester United couldn’t even win with all the trouble that was in Everton’s camp. Obviously that’s why Manchester United is my favorite hate-watch, they are a pure joy to watch everytime.

[AGogi2003]

It was really surprising to have Man United playing at an advantage for most of the game and still couldn't use that to their actual advantage. I read a comment on here about how Everton got more serious when they had the red card early on in the first half. It's quite true as they managed to score a goal and hold Man United down all through the game from equalizing.
Although i didn't think it would be an easy game for either side, i thought this would be another 3 points for United and was disappointed to see Everton hold their own despite playing with a man down and defending against lots of attacks. It's quite difficult predicting Man United's performance going forward. The next game against Crystal palace could be a difficult one.

Manchester United are always struggle when playing with small club but when facing a tough club, they will do well and perform better and making the fans think that they are back to there form. is when they face small club they will perform low, Amorim can probably sack if he didn't change this tactic and buy new players when transfer Windows open for the second term. Manchester United still have time to rebuild there self and fight for the top 4 in the league table so that they can have the opportunity to go to the champions league next season.

But if they continue like this I don't think they will even have a way to qualify to the ucl and even the Europa League next season, they need to try and perform better in the league competition since they are not playing any major competition that we can says they can be tired but they won't play any competition only the Premier League but still they will drop point in the league table, let just wait what Amorim will do in there next game and if can't achieve three point I will prefer they should just let him move.

[Fuso.hp]

What Manchester United is doing to their fans is not fair hahaha, I saw a fan tore his jersey in a viewing center yesterday and I felt pity cause the level of disappointment those players gave him was too much, what a sad day to be a Manchester United supporter, several players are still dragging the club backwards and needs to be flushed out.
 The only player that's gave his all in that game was Mbeumo, he really tried to find the net on several occasions but Pickford was able tp save most of his shots. However if Manchester United doesn't step up their game, I don't think they'll finish close to the top four this season cause I team that couldn't beat 10 men Everton players is not ready to grab a top four spot, that was a big opportunity for them to go up in the table but they messed up.

Manchester United have been disappointing the club's supporters for the past few months. They have not been able to make any successful signings or perform as a team that their fans can praise for their team performance. This team needs a change, the club is only wasting money by keeping the players they have kept at high prices because these players are not able to contribute to the club. The way Manchester United was defeated in the last match is not expected from Manchester United. Looking at the performance of Manchester United in some matches, it seems that they may not be too worried about their club's performance so far but they are happy with the way it is going.
Maximum fans have already stopped watching their games so if this continues then the fans will no longer come to the field to support them or walk around wearing Manchester United jerseys.

[PokerDiceMan]

For me I would say it depends on the team they are playing against, some teams if you dare go a man down against them, they would smoke you and score even more goals. Just imagine a lower ranked team in the Bundesliga going a man down against Bayern Munich of today, that team will certainly concede lots of goals. I do get your stand point of it being difficult for certain teams to win against a 10 men team because they will certainly play defence against that team, but their are certain teams, if you try doing that especially when you're a man down, they will use that opening spot to punish you.

10 against 11 matter on your team spirit and tactics, and against a team like Manchester united giving your all will likely give you a win or a draw and looking at this game last night it reminds me of our Maresca made the wrong decisions removing key attackers against Manchester united when we got a red card also.

Where are the United fans shouting we are back ?
They have gone back to their default: AmorimOut 😆

So how many coaches are needed to make Manchester United perform well and be able to compete in the English league? Because after Alex Ferguson resigned from Manchester United, many coaches have come to Manchester United and many expensive top players have also arrived, but the results have always been disappointing and poor. Not to mention competing for the championship, Manchester United can't even manage to be in the top 4 of the English league to get a ticket to the Champions League next season.

[Nightwatchmare]

Liverpool 0 Vs Nottingham Forest 1
First corner for Nottingham Forest in the game and it resulted in a goal for them and this came in the 30+ minutes. It wasn't even long enough Nottingham Forest scored again through I. Jesus but it didn't count since the ball came of his hands before he struck it into the net. Liverpool is in another problem again as they trail a team that's also not in form. Seems like Nottingham Forest will be using Liverpool to count 3 points today. Well let's just wait, it's a matter of time for anything to happen.

Liverpool were totally disgraced at Anfield as the match moved from redeemable 0-1 to unfortunate 0-3. This is a total embarrassment to the defending champions and I expect serious pressures to be on their coach Arne Slot. I don't know if the departure of Luiz Diaz was the beginning of their problems because Isak have not been able to fill the void in the team. Because of today's result, I will avoid betting Liverpool till further notice.

I just believed since Liverpool was at home, they were going to defeat Nottingham Forest, who is also struggling this season, but Liverpool's performance against Nottingham Forest shows any team in premier league can beat Liverpool at Anfield. I do not think it is the departure of Luiz Diaz from Liverpool's team that is making Liverpool to struggle this season; i think Arne Slot is the cause Liverpool is struggling this season. I have also decided i will not be betting on Liverpool till further notice because can not be allowing Liverpool to be cutting my game almost all the time.

[Black Mbaye]

For me I would say it depends on the team they are playing against, some teams if you dare go a man down against them, they would smoke you and score even more goals. Just imagine a lower ranked team in the Bundesliga going a man down against Bayern Munich of today, that team will certainly concede lots of goals. I do get your stand point of it being difficult for certain teams to win against a 10 men team because they will certainly play defence against that team, but their are certain teams, if you try doing that especially when you're a man down, they will use that opening spot to punish you.

10 against 11 matter on your team spirit and tactics, and against a team like Manchester united giving your all will likely give you a win or a draw and looking at this game last night it reminds me of our Maresca made the wrong decisions removing key attackers against Manchester united when we got a red card also.

Where are the United fans shouting we are back ?
They have gone back to their default: AmorimOut 😆

So how many coaches are needed to make Manchester United perform well and be able to compete in the English league? Because after Alex Ferguson resigned from Manchester United, many coaches have come to Manchester United and many expensive top players have also arrived, but the results have always been disappointing and poor. Not to mention competing for the championship, Manchester United can't even manage to be in the top 4 of the English league to get a ticket to the Champions League next season.

Manchester United made the wrong decision with Erik Ten Hag. The time they spent on him and the signings he made led to their decline. They're currently in a bit of a recovery phase, with manager Amorim trying to regroup the team. They've been on the rise this year, but their last home defeat to Everton was disappointing.

[Egii Nna]

Strange. A strange result, but that's the final outcome. The first oddity occurred when Gana Gueye received a red card after an incident with Keane. I watched the live stream to see why the referee suddenly gave a red card after a quick Manchester United attack.
The second oddity was that Manchester United's forwards, Mbeumo, Zirkzee, and Amad, were too selfish, especially Amad and Mbeumo, who, uncharacteristically, supported each other in passing when one was in an empty area.

Winning is certainly the goal, but when it doesn't happen, I don't think it's a serious problem. We consider the result far from lucky.
Everton were good defensively. Otherwise, nothing special.
Pickford deserved to be the best player of the match with six saves.

It seems the media has exaggerated Manchester United's resurgence, making the players very egotistical and that was evident in this match.
This wasn't bad luck, Manchester United simply played poorly and the loss was a setback for them, one that will likely impact their next match. Since then, I've been skeptical of the many reports claiming Manchester United have recovered from their slump, they're still the same as last season.

Manchester United lost that game due to a lack of accurate attacking, which is the reason why many are saying they were not lucky in that game yesterday. Because if you look at the game, you will see that Manchester United really played the best they can, but no goal. The painful part was that Everton even had a red card from the early minutes of the game, which means Manchester United played against 10 players, but still ended up losing. The game is actually disappointing, but Manchester United need to do more. They are more than this, and still, they have some chances to change things. We can’t say they are just like the previous season.