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November 30, 2025, 11:11:13 PM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card

A lot of teams did looked up to this, given the point difference that was beginning to widen between Arsenal and teams within UCL qualifying positions on the league table. A draw between these two seemed much like a fair result, having to share points.

Chelsea played really good today until the red card, they looked just like a team that could have gotten something more than 1 point in this game for sure. Caicedo’s tackle was one that wasn’t necessary and he did it anyway, taking a red that did put Chelsea in a bad spot.

They some now managed good with it which was surprising but, you just know Arsenal was going to score at some point.

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November 30, 2025, 11:15:35 PM
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Liverpool finally managed to get back to winning ways thanks to Gapko and suprise package 📦 Isak  Shocked if this result didn't happen, Slot was going to be on the chopping board first thing on Monday!!

Btw looking at how results have come, I think it's safe to say punters have won this weekend because most of the favourites did get a result in their favour and very few upsets happened.

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It should be like that if those who bet on the favorite team must have benefited this week, but if not? must have lost because I'm pretty sure some people are hesitant to bet on the favorite team, last week was quite a strong slap for them.

Maybe one that can't win is the Chelsea and Arsenal match because it ended in a draw in this match.

Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card

Certainly, with this draw result, other top table teams can close the gap and reduce the point deficit with Arsenal. Especially Manchester City, which has the biggest chance to overtake Arsenal. Of course, if no Chelsea player had received a red card, the match would have been more exciting and interesting; Chelsea could have won the match if they had a full 11 players without any red cards. Having a player sent off reduces the team's balance, and coach Enzo Maresca had to change his game system when one of his players received a red card.
The gap was something I really wanted Chelsea to win Arsenal. It was for that red card that occurred, we can say Arsenal where very lucky to have the second half goal. Arsenal are now 30 points clear up the table, Manchester City are 25 points and Chelsea are 24 points. I think I like the table and also the result that Chelsea provided, but I was expecting a win from Chelsea in today's game, but it didn't work out as expected.

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November 30, 2025, 11:26:19 PM
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Certainly, with this draw result, other top table teams can close the gap and reduce the point deficit with Arsenal. Especially Manchester City, which has the biggest chance to overtake Arsenal. Of course, if no Chelsea player had received a red card, the match would have been more exciting and interesting; Chelsea could have won the match if they had a full 11 players without any red cards. Having a player sent off reduces the team's balance, and coach Enzo Maresca had to change his game system when one of his players received a red card.

It was a classical First vs second game and both clubs were seriously exceptional in the game just that I would have said that an Arsenal team today would have been more brutal in the game if their center backs actually were present but definitely not going to take away the ability of the two center backs today, they were exceptional together, this is their first start together and seriously they were impressive witn their performance.

The game was exciting and would have most definitely be different without the red card but to me it’s seriously a wrong notion that since Chelsea got a draw if they were playing equal numbers that Chelsea will win which I say this is dependent on the set up, losing one player wasn’t that difference but the style of play that follows suit, maybe Arsenal would have actually be able to open Chelsea up with Caicedo present since they wouldn’t be packing  the bus like they did today

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December 01, 2025, 12:32:37 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
The draw will give an advantage for the city, and another club that got wins tonight. This also creates tight competition in the Champions League zone. Arsenal should take this chance to widen the distance, but they are careless on defense; they are constantly attacking and forget to close the gap from Chelsea counterattacks. The derby was quite intense; they competed over who was the best club in London. If Chelsea didn't get a red card, most probably they would get a win, when I look at how easy they press Arsenal on 2nd half, Chelsea should win at least 3-1.

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December 01, 2025, 01:35:50 AM
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Arsenal lost a huge opportunity. Despite receiving a red card, Chelsea escaped defeat. Arsenal are currently leading, but they could have widened the gap. Chelsea, on the other hand, must be upset about the red card because they could have easily beaten Arsenal. They were very focused and could have won this match. Still, they shouldn't be too upset; they've earned at least a point.

Many times on the field of play, even the most promising teams seem to be sure of winning, but for whatever reason they lose. Arsenal is currently at the top of the points table. So, their fans can expect something better from them.

Since Chelsea was reduced to 10 men, Arsenal could have taken this opportunity to take their own position to a better level. However, Chelsea did not stop their attack in any way, while Arsenal also increased their attack, but they could not do anything in the first half.

Arsenal had to leave the field with a 1-1 draw in the second half.

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December 01, 2025, 03:45:49 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
The draw will give an advantage for the city, and another club that got wins tonight. This also creates tight competition in the Champions League zone. Arsenal should take this chance to widen the distance, but they are careless on defense; they are constantly attacking and forget to close the gap from Chelsea counterattacks. The derby was quite intense; they competed over who was the best club in London. If Chelsea didn't get a red card, most probably they would get a win, when I look at how easy they press Arsenal on 2nd half, Chelsea should win at least 3-1.

Arsenal were just not their self in that game, they tried but the whole tactics wasn't picking up and they failed to make an impression in the first hand and just as you stated if Chelsea were complete I also think they would have made go with the victory which by now the whole story would have been different with arsenal because we might be looking at probably the same repetitive trend again but hopefully this doesn't happen this time around.

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December 01, 2025, 03:54:21 AM
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The draw will give an advantage for the city, and another club that got wins tonight. This also creates tight competition in the Champions League zone. Arsenal should take this chance to widen the distance, but they are careless on defense; they are constantly attacking and forget to close the gap from Chelsea counterattacks.

I am not the kind of person that makes excuses,  so I am very disappointed at the way Arsenal played. I don't care of they don't have their first choice center back, the truth is that they performed below the team expectations and this draw is more of a loss to me, but I don't think this will affect their position much, because I still believe they are the most consistent team in the premier league this season, so I believe that the teams that are chasing them in the title race will definitely drop points before them, which give them the advantage to extend the lead. Congratulations to Chelsea anyways, because they had a good performance a day deserves not less than a draw.

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December 01, 2025, 04:02:24 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
The draw will give an advantage for the city, and another club that got wins tonight. This also creates tight competition in the Champions League zone. Arsenal should take this chance to widen the distance, but they are careless on defense; they are constantly attacking and forget to close the gap from Chelsea counterattacks. The derby was quite intense; they competed over who was the best club in London. If Chelsea didn't get a red card, most probably they would get a win, when I look at how easy they press Arsenal on 2nd half, Chelsea should win at least 3-1.

Arsenal were just not their self in that game, they tried but the whole tactics wasn't picking up and they failed to make an impression in the first hand and just as you stated if Chelsea were complete I also think they would have made go with the victory which by now the whole story would have been different with arsenal because we might be looking at probably the same repetitive trend again but hopefully this doesn't happen this time around.
I also think Arsenal's game against Chelsea was far from what we're used to. They weren't very effective, and Arsenal are a very effective team this year. So, they couldn't play like a true Arsenal, and that's why they couldn't earn the three points despite Chelsea being outplayed. Chelsea also defended very well and positioned their players well. They didn't allow Arsenal to win and managed to earn a point despite being outplayed. Earning a point from Arsenal in such a match is a success. Considering Arsenal has the potential to beat almost any team in the Premier League, it's a win, not a loss, for Chelsea. Arsenal, however, squandered their opportunity and couldn't earn the three points in such a match. It's difficult to break through a closed defense, and it's especially difficult to break through a closed defense from a strong team like Chelsea. We saw this once again in this match. Arsenal failed to capitalize on their advantage and ended the day with a draw.


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December 01, 2025, 04:28:33 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
The draw will give an advantage for the city, and another club that got wins tonight. This also creates tight competition in the Champions League zone. Arsenal should take this chance to widen the distance, but they are careless on defense; they are constantly attacking and forget to close the gap from Chelsea counterattacks. The derby was quite intense; they competed over who was the best club in London. If Chelsea didn't get a red card, most probably they would get a win, when I look at how easy they press Arsenal on 2nd half, Chelsea should win at least 3-1.

Arsenal were just not their self in that game, they tried but the whole tactics wasn't picking up and they failed to make an impression in the first hand and just as you stated if Chelsea were complete I also think they would have made go with the victory which by now the whole story would have been different with arsenal because we might be looking at probably the same repetitive trend again but hopefully this doesn't happen this time around.
I also think Arsenal's game against Chelsea was far from what we're used to. They weren't very effective, and Arsenal are a very effective team this year. So, they couldn't play like a true Arsenal, and that's why they couldn't earn the three points despite Chelsea being outplayed. Chelsea also defended very well and positioned their players well. They didn't allow Arsenal to win and managed to earn a point despite being outplayed. Earning a point from Arsenal in such a match is a success. Considering Arsenal has the potential to beat almost any team in the Premier League, it's a win, not a loss, for Chelsea. Arsenal, however, squandered their opportunity and couldn't earn the three points in such a match. It's difficult to break through a closed defense, and it's especially difficult to break through a closed defense from a strong team like Chelsea. We saw this once again in this match. Arsenal failed to capitalize on their advantage and ended the day with a draw.
This match between Chelsea and Arsenal, show how strong Chelsea is this season. Even with a red card they were able to hold Arsenal to a draw. The funny thing is they even scored the first goal before Arsenal was able to equalise.  The premier League trophy this season may go to any of this club , arsenal, Chelsea or Manchester city. After Chelsea had the red card I was thinking it was going to be a win for Arsenal but it was totally a different thing, Chelsea is really going to this season with a trophy.

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December 01, 2025, 04:31:42 AM
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Adding a new midfield younger and experienced in the Premier League who can replace Casemiro will do Manchester United a lot good. The combination of Bruno and Casemiro staggering but it was great to see them both fight for the three points. A player for the left wing back role will also be perfect during the transfer. These are the two most important positions which can help increase Manchester United to the top four. They fail to do that and they're not qualifying for thr champions league.
Casemiro is no longer capable of playing a full Premier League game due to his age, although he has performed better than some of the players currently available. Manchester United needs another midfielder to replace Casemiro, as the current players aren't yet capable of fulfilling his role. A win in this match is crucial, as they previously suffered a defeat against Everton despite Manchester United's numerical superiority and numerous chances. Two new players are needed, particularly in midfield and left wing-back, and Manchester United can use the upcoming transfer window to find the players they need.


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December 01, 2025, 05:01:59 AM
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It was a classical First vs second game and both clubs were seriously exceptional in the game just that I would have said that an Arsenal team today would have been more brutal in the game if their center backs actually were present but definitely not going to take away the ability of the two center backs today, they were exceptional together, this is their first start together and seriously they were impressive witn their performance.

The game was exciting and would have most definitely be different without the red card but to me it’s seriously a wrong notion that since Chelsea got a draw if they were playing equal numbers that Chelsea will win which I say this is dependent on the set up, losing one player wasn’t that difference but the style of play that follows suit, maybe Arsenal would have actually be able to open Chelsea up with Caicedo present since they wouldn’t be packing  the bus like they did today
For me this was one of the best performance from Chelsea because after red card I was expecting must defeat for them, but they give one of the best even with this performance level they deserved to be winner, but they are able to have one point this is also impressive job from them.

If there is no red card I am sure Arsenal going to taste second defeat of this season at Stamford Bridge and this is going to be interesting for league table because with Chelsea at second spot but red card change the momentum of this match and league table but still fight is going to be on till last game of this season between top four teams. If Liverpool and Manchester United able to have consistency this will bring good fight at the top for Champions League spots because they are trying to pick their momentum for staying into hunt.



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December 01, 2025, 06:13:03 AM
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This match between Chelsea and Arsenal, show how strong Chelsea is this season. Even with a red card they were able to hold Arsenal to a draw. The funny thing is they even scored the first goal before Arsenal was able to equalise.  The premier League trophy this season may go to any of this club , arsenal, Chelsea or Manchester city. After Chelsea had the red card I was thinking it was going to be a win for Arsenal but it was totally a different thing, Chelsea is really going to this season with a trophy.
The red card came at the 38th minuites, even before any of the team had scored.... Chelsea are the world champions for a reason coz they still was able to score with a red card and still able to use 10 men to contain arsenal from scoring more than a goal. The red card didn't distabilize or stop them from delivering an awesome performance. In all what I kept telling my friends after the match that it would have been another story entirely for arsenal if Moisès Caicedo didn't get thst card.  Chelsea are really playing this season like the Chelsea of old which had the likes of Didier Drogba and co....

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December 01, 2025, 06:51:04 AM
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It's not weird. That's the nature of the English Premier League. Have you forgotten that similar situation happened to Manchester United and they lost the match. The Everton that won them was trashed this weekend by 4 goals. So, English Premier league is somewhat unpredictable.

I don't like it when something happens, and people make it look like that kind of thing is exclusive to just the EPL. This is not the first time a team with a red card has got a draw despite playing with 10 men for most of the game, and the EPL is certainly not the only league it has happened before. The fact remains that the team with the advantage messed up if they cannot win with that advantage.
If this had happened in another league, the narrative would have been "this cant happen in the EPL", when it happens in the EPL, it will be "this is why it is the EPL".  Just a few weeks ago, Bayern Munich won PSG despite having a red card in the first half.
Arsenal messed up by not winning against Chelsea despite playing over 50 minutes with an advantage, even they know this. This is not the behaviour of a team that is ready to win the league.

Not that this is the first time a team with red card managed to draw or even win a game in the English premier league but arsenal's consistency level this season can never be compared to that of Chelsea in all ratifications, that is why the entire world was consigned
 About that draw. The game was Indeed an interesting one for both teams,  especially after the red card. Chelsea players never lost hope even after knowing there opponent was way beyond  there level yet never gave up on there dreams which was why they fought relentlessly just to make it work
A red card for a Chelsea player in the 38th minute of the match was a great opportunity for Arsenal. Arsenal team were already in great form had a better chance of winning but Chelsea, with a team of 10 men, surprised everyone and dominated the field. The draw meant that Arsenal suffered more than Chelsea because they had the potential to increase their points gap but they have stumbled a bit in the tournament. With the result of this match, Arsenal have lost one of their 13 matches and drawn three. It was a commendable match for Chelsea. It was not easy for any team to survive the match with the determination that Enzo Maresca's team played with 10 men but they drew against a strong team like Arsenal. Yet they drew against a strong team like Arsenal. I think this match will be very inspiring for Chelsea to continue to fight in the matches and have a chance to win the trophy.

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December 01, 2025, 07:00:04 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
The draw will give an advantage for the city, and another club that got wins tonight. This also creates tight competition in the Champions League zone. Arsenal should take this chance to widen the distance, but they are careless on defense; they are constantly attacking and forget to close the gap from Chelsea counterattacks. The derby was quite intense; they competed over who was the best club in London. If Chelsea didn't get a red card, most probably they would get a win, when I look at how easy they press Arsenal on 2nd half, Chelsea should win at least 3-1.

Arsenal were just not their self in that game, they tried but the whole tactics wasn't picking up and they failed to make an impression in the first hand and just as you stated if Chelsea were complete I also think they would have made go with the victory which by now the whole story would have been different with arsenal because we might be looking at probably the same repetitive trend again but hopefully this doesn't happen this time around.
I don’t think it’s about Arsenal not being themselves, but obviously it was an awkward performance from Arsenal, I think ever since they lost to Liverpool no team have really stood up against Arsenal until Sunderland and Chelsea, and Arsenal was very poor because I have noticed some manager have found a blueprint to beat this Arsenal team and match them, it’s just when you come up against them with so much Energy and Strength.
Arsenal finds it difficult to play against them that have a high tempo energy style of play, they have always stuttered against teams with this style of football. Chelsea have just showed other teams a blueprint on how to play against Arsenal and get a result.
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December 01, 2025, 07:03:16 AM
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Liverpool finally managed to get back to winning ways thanks to Gapko and suprise package 📦 Isak  Shocked if this result didn't happen, Slot was going to be on the chopping board first thing on Monday!!

Btw looking at how results have come, I think it's safe to say punters have won this weekend because most of the favourites did get a result in their favour and very few upsets happened.

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It should be like that if those who bet on the favorite team must have benefited this week, but if not? must have lost because I'm pretty sure some people are hesitant to bet on the favorite team, last week was quite a strong slap for them.

Maybe one that can't win is the Chelsea and Arsenal match because it ended in a draw in this match.

Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card

Certainly, with this draw result, other top table teams can close the gap and reduce the point deficit with Arsenal. Especially Manchester City, which has the biggest chance to overtake Arsenal. Of course, if no Chelsea player had received a red card, the match would have been more exciting and interesting; Chelsea could have won the match if they had a full 11 players without any red cards. Having a player sent off reduces the team's balance, and coach Enzo Maresca had to change his game system when one of his players received a red card.
The gap was something I really wanted Chelsea to win Arsenal. It was for that red card that occurred, we can say Arsenal where very lucky to have the second half goal. Arsenal are now 30 points clear up the table, Manchester City are 25 points and Chelsea are 24 points. I think I like the table and also the result that Chelsea provided, but I was expecting a win from Chelsea in today's game, but it didn't work out as expected.

Yea, I believed chelsea so much on that game but it was so unfortunate because of the red card Caicedo took in the first half of the game and I'm very much sure that if not for the red card Chelsea would have won the game big time because they played more than Arsenal yesterday and I was surprised yesterday at Chelsea performance because I know how strong arsenal is but they outperform Arsenal yesterday and even with the red card they still score and play well till full time.











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After 13 rounds at the top Arsenal have difference of 5 points but at the bottom difference is 8 points for Wolves they are without any win and their attack and defense are also terrible most chances they could be not survive and ended with relegation in this season. Burnley and Leeds United are on same level of performance and quality this can be good for them West Ham and Nottingham Forest are giving them company just because of this currently it's difficult to predict about others strong contenders for relegation but still most chances Burnley are having not good time and Leeds United is also hosting inform Chelsea for next game.

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December 01, 2025, 07:26:37 AM
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After 13 rounds at the top Arsenal have difference of 5 points but at the bottom difference is 8 points for Wolves they are without any win and their attack and defense are also terrible most chances they could be not survive and ended with relegation in this season. Burnley and Leeds United are on same level of performance and quality this can be good for them West Ham and Nottingham Forest are giving them company just because of this currently it's difficult to predict about others strong contenders for relegation but still most chances Burnley are having not good time and Leeds United is also hosting inform Chelsea for next game.
Looking at the table after 13 rounds, the relegation battle is starting to take shape. Wolves are in a very difficult position not only because of the significant point gap, but also because their performances show no signs of improvement. With no wins, a weak attack, and a shaky defense, their chances of survival are getting slimmer.

However, they still have a small “advantage"a few other teams like Burnley and Leeds United are also inconsistent and performing at a similar level. If either of them fails to find momentum, Wolves could still take advantage of it, although the odds remain low.

West Ham and Nottingham Forest are also worth considering. Even though both have stronger squads, inconsistent performances could still drag them into the relegation fight if they don’t improve soon.

Leeds’ upcoming match against Chelsea will be an important indicator—whether they have the ability to bounce back or are heading deeper into trouble. But overall, from all the current relegation candidates, Burnley and Wolves seem to be the most vulnerable if things do not change quickly.

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I also think Arsenal's game against Chelsea was far from what we're used to. They weren't very effective, and Arsenal are a very effective team this year. So, they couldn't play like a true Arsenal, and that's why they couldn't earn the three points despite Chelsea being outplayed. Chelsea also defended very well and positioned their players well. They didn't allow Arsenal to win and managed to earn a point despite being outplayed. Earning a point from Arsenal in such a match is a success. Considering Arsenal has the potential to beat almost any team in the Premier League, it's a win, not a loss, for Chelsea. Arsenal, however, squandered their opportunity and couldn't earn the three points in such a match. It's difficult to break through a closed defense, and it's especially difficult to break through a closed defense from a strong team like Chelsea. We saw this once again in this match. Arsenal failed to capitalize on their advantage and ended the day with a draw.
We had expected the match between Arsenal vs Chelsea in the Premier League to be a tough one and we saw that in the performance on the field. Chelsea scored 1 goal Arsenal scored 1 goal and these two teams shared one point each in their 13th match. If Arsenal or Chelsea had won this match then it would not have been good for Manchester City because if Chelsea had won they would have come close to Manchester City on the other hand if Arsenal had won they would have had a lot of points gap with Manchester City but with the current point gap if Manchester City can perform as planned then they will compete hard with Arsenal till the end for the Premier League title.
Arsenal will have to perform better and try to get full points in every match only then their long-standing regrets will be fulfilled.

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December 01, 2025, 07:40:16 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
If Chelsea doesnt' get a red card. They may play more fearlessly than what they did during the second half. They have more person to defend, and we can expect them to win the game. However, we must move on. The fact that getting draw when they were one men down is so good. This also shows how Maresca perfectly managed his team better when it's coming in the different circumstancces.

So what i can do is appreciate them all. I'm not feeling worry if Caicedo gets red as Santos and Essugo are ready to play. This is the good thing when you have a squad with the depth.

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December 01, 2025, 08:47:08 AM
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Most of the teams in the top got a big advantage with this draw from Arsenal. Its just wierd that Arsenal couldnt win this match with a player more. They had some good chances but just didnt take them. Its getting intrested at the very top with this draw. I just wonder what would have happened if Chelsea didnt receive that red card
If Chelsea doesnt' get a red card. They may play more fearlessly than what they did during the second half. They have more person to defend, and we can expect them to win the game. However, we must move on. The fact that getting draw when they were one men down is so good. This also shows how Maresca perfectly managed his team better when it's coming in the different circumstancces.

So what i can do is appreciate them all. I'm not feeling worry if Caicedo gets red as Santos and Essugo are ready to play. This is the good thing when you have a squad with the depth.
I admit that Maresca is quite astute in his strategy, Many unexpected things happen in every match, such as Chelsea's red card midway through the first half. However Chelsea performance remained stable and they even managed to score from a corner kick.

A draw is certainly quite good for Chelsea, as they were reduced to 10 men in the second half, Despite this Maresca was able to maintain the rhythm of the game, proving that Chelsea are now quite good.
Meanwhile Arsenal should also be quite satisfied with this draw, Chelsea and Arsenal are two teams in the title race, so the match was intense and a draw is fair for both teams, as predicted from the start.


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