⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Chelsea's performance was unimaginable. They couldn't do anything in the middle of the field. Leeds played very well. Their defense and attack played very well. Because of this, they were able to win. Chelsea's defense didn't do much. When Leeds scored the second goal, it was completely due to Chelsea's defense. But maybe Leeds can get back into the game with this win.

The performance was very powerful making people to lose their money because of their bad pattern of playing football.
I was happy when Arsenal delivered accurately according to our predictions but Chelsea of all club decided to cut our ticket because of their bad tactical pattern to play like a real club that knows what they are doing to win the premier league

Yeah, Chelsea actually destroyed a lot of bettors tickets with their poor performance against Leeds United in their yesterday encounter, and I am still honestly wondering how they (Chelsea) managed to hold Arsenal to a 1-1 draw last week with this type of awful performance they displayed against Leeds yester night.

This goes a long way to show how dynamic the game of sports is, a team can be their best this moment and the very next moment be at their worst performance.
And speaking of the league title, I don't think Chelsea is playing to win the Premier league, because from what I am seeing, they have little to no chance at all.

[Son Of Blockchain (SOB)]

Damn! How unfortunate Wirtz is. His goal against Sunderland being marked as OG by Sunderland player. So he's yet to scoring nor assisting since he joined Liverpool a few months ago. At this point it's really worth to send him back to the Bundesliga instead of keeping him in Liverpool much longer.
Even Premier League itself cruelly denied his goal against Sunderland.

He's so struggle to score. I won't be surprised if he will end this season with fewer goals only, but most likely achievable during the mid - late season. Any thought about him?

The problem is not his goalscoring ability, but that his performance does not match the price paid for him and the expectations of him. The same situation as with Isak. And I don't see how this problem can be solved. "Selling them back" isn't an option, nor is benching them, so the only option is to somehow integrate them into the system and wait for them to improve their level. Regarding Isak, I hope that this does not happen and he remains at the trash level.

Based on their poor performance in the club I wonder which team would even want them, maybe Wirtz would've been considered by other top European teams if his performance was great or he's contributed with assists asides goals but he's form has really declined and the only placement could easily be sold to for a good amount of money is in the Saudi League.
 Moreover I don't think that either Wirtz or Isak would want to move there too early therefore the only option Liverpool has is to wait patiently till they improve or fire the manager and bring in someone that would handle the team properly, well Slots grace period is not yet over so for now his job is secured except the team move on from yesterday's match to lose the upcoming ones, then they'll have no option but to fire him.

[qurbanshah02]

Chelsea's performance was unimaginable. They couldn't do anything in the middle of the field. Leeds played very well. Their defense and attack played very well. Because of this, they were able to win. Chelsea's defense didn't do much. When Leeds scored the second goal, it was completely due to Chelsea's defense. But maybe Leeds can get back into the game with this win.

The performance was very powerful making people to lose their money because of their bad pattern of playing football.
I was happy when Arsenal delivered accurately according to our predictions but Chelsea of all club decided to cut our ticket because of their bad tactical pattern to play like a real club that knows what they are doing to win the premier league

I didn't really expect this from him because Chelsea used to play with a good performance and the weakness from Leeds was very strong from Chelsea in this match. The strength in the match between Chelsea and Leeds was quite interesting and surprising. It was a good effort from Arsenal, I wouldn't call them weak because their players were injured due to which one of their good players came to play at the last minute. Although this defeat for Chelsea was their weakness, so we have to see if such a performance by Chelsea in the next matches will make them even weaker. This effort from Leeds was quite good for them and they should continue to play well with this kind of form now, if they are successful.

[Webetcoins]

Chelsea cannot just win every game, I do not know what people are expecting of them but we are talking about a team that is not been that good for long, they have been decent this season and just because of that there are a lot of people expecting them to win. Of course there will be some games like these because they are a new team at the top, they haven't been near the top for long, specially majority of their players and their manager didn't see a top finish yet, so it's normal to have these results.

[Finebone]

Chelsea cannot just win every game, I do not know what people are expecting of them but we are talking about a team that is not been that good for long, they have been decent this season and just because of that there are a lot of people expecting them to win. Of course there will be some games like these because they are a new team at the top, they haven't been near the top for long, specially majority of their players and their manager didn't see a top finish yet, so it's normal to have these results.

They have ever right to be frustrated man, they can't be putting top class performance against an elite team like Barcelona and arsenal and then be losing to Leeds convincingly, so even though I am in their shoe, I will also be frustrated.

I am aware that they can't win all their games, their are games they will lose and draw due to the circumstances that may happen on the day, in the field of play, but this particular game against Leeds, enzo maresca kills the game with his wrong line up, and that was why they lost, so their fans  have every right to be frustrated.

[Lida93]

Damn! How unfortunate Wirtz is. His goal against Sunderland being marked as OG by Sunderland player. So he's yet to scoring nor assisting since he joined Liverpool a few months ago. At this point it's really worth to send him back to the Bundesliga instead of keeping him in Liverpool much longer.
Even Premier League itself cruelly denied his goal against Sunderland.

He's so struggle to score. I won't be surprised if he will end this season with fewer goals only, but most likely achievable during the mid - late season. Any thought about him?

Thought he was awarded the assist, no?

Unfortunate is not the right word to use on the German midfielder as regards the player's current form at Liverpool, Wirtz is quite an exceptional player who is yet to blend in the Liverpool settings, but this doesn't mean that there isn't room for improvement for the player, he needs time to adapt to the English style of football which is sometimes difficult for some players after they move to a new club and a new country, maybe next season might be different for the German international.

[slapper]

It seems clear at this point that Arsenal is going to win the Premier League. I can't be 100% sure about this, but the chances of Arsenal losing consistency throughout the next few months seem quite low. Chelsea has great potential, but losing against a weak opponent like Leeds by making three horrible mistakes in defense shows that Chelsea doesn't have what it takes to become a champion. Their draw with Arsenal gets devalued by this unexpected loss against Leeds. Liverpool still can't get out of the crisis after ending in a draw against Sunderland, Chiesa saved the team by clearing the ball from the goal line. Slot should not be tolerated anymore. It seems that he is more incompetent than Ruben Amorim.

YES! - to say it for all summer visitors - this is for the first time in years that it won't feel like pure copium to say "Arsenal are favourites". It's not just the points, it's the feel of the way they're winning. Seven goals conceded from 14 games is absurd. When you're essentially handing teams half a goal a game, you don't even need to be perfect with your ball to keep racking up win after win.

What is different for me is how they handle setbacks. That Chelsea draw was annoying as hell - 10 men, derby, felt like two dropped points - but then 48 hours later they rotate and bring back in Ødegaard and Ben White and completely smother Brentford. Old Arsenal allowed that type of frustration to snowball. This same group just eats it and move on.

You're right that Chelsea's Leeds disaster kind of exposes them. A team that leads the league in errors leading to goals and have the youngest XI in PL history is fun but it's not going toe-to-toe with a machine. Same with Liverpool if you're giving away more than your xGA then your keeper is regressed and Anfield is groaning through a 1-1 with Sunderland, then you're not all of a sudden rolling in the most stable team in the country.

Only reason why I won't call the title already is two words: Saliba and December. If he remains fit through this Christmas grind and the gap looks similar the "Arsenal will bottle it" stereotype is going to look very outdated, very fast.

[Shineup]

Chelsea fans  . Welcome back to reality.

After Chelsea deceived themselves by winning Barcelona in the Champions League and getting a draw against Arsenal in Stamford Bridge. Today, they meet their true mate in the Premier league, they cannot win.

Leeds gained full victory today. Chelsea looked like shit to watch. This is the real Chelsea. Losers!

Leeds fans are really something else. If Leeds could find a bit of consistency, their home games would be unreal to watch. Btw how do chelse take points off Arsenal, then concede 3 goals to the last place team? is this the real Chelsea as you said ?

Chelsea's performance was unimaginable. They couldn't do anything in the middle of the field. Leeds played very well. Their defense and attack played very well. Because of this, they were able to win. Chelsea's defense didn't do much. When Leeds scored the second goal, it was completely due to Chelsea's defense. But maybe Leeds can get back into the game with this win.

Lolz like I was in so much joy yesterday after that lost yesterday, and I was the last person to walk out of the viewing center yesterday as all Chelsea fans left the hall before the end of the game, wow Leeds United was on fire last night I didn't expect such an amazing performance from them like I was actually thinking it was a direct winning for Chelsea even after the two goals I was still believing Chelsea would win and at the point of 2 -1 my confidence became so strong that I just believe Chelsea could won the game but I was all wrong at last kudos to Leeds United.

[Marvell1]

The problem is not his goalscoring ability, but that his performance does not match the price paid for him and the expectations of him. The same situation as with Isak. And I don't see how this problem can be solved. "Selling them back" isn't an option, nor is benching them, so the only option is to somehow integrate them into the system and wait for them to improve their level. Regarding Isak, I hope that this does not happen and he remains at the trash level.

The few players that Liverpool have bought this season are all very talented. And each of them performed well last season. And that is why Liverpool management bought these players at very high prices.

The main reason for Liverpool's poor performance is their match strategy. Liverpool has made big changes in the squad. But Arne Slot has failed to strengthen the bonding between the players. Liverpool's bonding between the players is weak, as well as their match strategy is not good. And that is why we are seeing very irregular performance from Liverpool. If the strategy does not improve and the bonding between the players is not stronger, their performance will not be stable. Wirtz and Isak are very talented. But Arne Slot is not able to use these two talented players properly.

[aylabadia05]

Chelsea cannot just win every game, I do not know what people are expecting of them but we are talking about a team that is not been that good for long, they have been decent this season and just because of that there are a lot of people expecting them to win. Of course there will be some games like these because they are a new team at the top, they haven't been near the top for long, specially majority of their players and their manager didn't see a top finish yet, so it's normal to have these results.

I was surprised to see Chelsea lose by such a scoreline. But Leeds United did a fantastic job yesterday. They'd lost four games in a row, so yesterday's win over Chelsea was a testament to their continued Premier League survival.
For Chelsea, the defeat was painful, as their efforts to maintain their top spot in the standings were hampered, and for Leeds United, the win felt special.

If Leeds United can win, how do you view Manchester United's match against West Ham United?
West Ham United's position isn't much different from Leeds', currently in 18th place. If they get three points, they could potentially climb up the table.
But Manchester United have big ambitions in this match. Mbeumo and Amad will soon be out of action for Manchester United, and Amorim will certainly need to maximize his time before he leaves the squad.

[Callido]

Chelsea cannot just win every game, I do not know what people are expecting of them but we are talking about a team that is not been that good for long, they have been decent this season and just because of that there are a lot of people expecting them to win. Of course there will be some games like these because they are a new team at the top, they haven't been near the top for long, specially majority of their players and their manager didn't see a top finish yet, so it's normal to have these results.

It is very obvious that Chelsea will not be contending in the Premier League race, with this performance, they are far from competing against Arsenal for the title. When Arsenal played against Leeds, the score was 5:0, i expected a good win from Chelsea after holding Arsenal to a draw last time.

Playing against bottom clubs is an opportunity to load 3 points, the way Chelsea performed don't sit well with me, they were the underdog in the match, Leeds played a good game and deserves the win.

[Dr.Osh]

In a few hours, the Manchester United vs West Ham match will be held. In the last 5 matches, West Ham has won 3 times out of 5 meetings. In this match, Manchester United should be able to beat West Ham very easily. Based on the standings, West Ham is far below Manchester United. I hope my prediction is correct for now.

[adultcrypto]

Chelsea's performance was unimaginable. They couldn't do anything in the middle of the field. Leeds played very well. Their defense and attack played very well. Because of this, they were able to win. Chelsea's defense didn't do much. When Leeds scored the second goal, it was completely due to Chelsea's defense. But maybe Leeds can get back into the game with this win.

I have never seen Chelsea play so badly in a long time and I can't figure out the rationale for such too. Maybe this got to show that Enzo Fernandes and Pedro Neto are the main men of Chelsea and a match without them will smell disaster for Chelsea. A lost alongside many of my friends who played Chelsea to win in a parlay with Bayern Munic, Arsenal and Crystal Palace to win. It was only Chelsea that failed to win thereby cutting the bet. Chelsea defense yesterday messed up big team as there was no understanding between them which lead to some of the goals that Leeds scored. The have to work on their defense as a matter of urgency because if Manchester City catches the Chelsea that played Leeds, they will be humiliated with more than 3 goals difference.

[ingiltere]

If Manchester United win today, they will reach 24 points and climb to 4th place. However, if they lose they will remain in 9th place. It will be a match that seriously affects the standings.
West Ham United is in the relegation zone. They also urgently need to collect points. I think it will be a very tight match. Both teams are aiming for victory. Bookmakers have given low odds for Manchester United, but I don't think it will be an easy match at all. Since Nuno Espirito Santo took charge, West Ham United has shown signs of recovery. They lost to Liverpool last week, but they collected 7 points in the previous 3 matches. They need to collect a few more points to catch their breath.

[Abdulzuruku01]

Yeah, Chelsea actually destroyed a lot of bettors tickets with their poor performance against Leeds United in their yesterday encounter, and I am still honestly wondering how they (Chelsea) managed to hold Arsenal to a 1-1 draw last week with this type of awful performance they displayed against Leeds yester night.

This goes a long way to show how dynamic the game of sports is, a team can be their best this moment and the very next moment be at their worst performance.
And speaking of the league title, I don't think Chelsea is playing to win the Premier league, because from what I am seeing, they have little to no chance at all.

A lot of Chelsea fans were blaming Enzo Maresca for his formation, but in my opinion that's not a valid reason. With his starting lineup yesterday they should have been able to beat Leeds United. I don't feel comfortable betting on Chelsea to have victory whenever they get to play against weak team, because Chelsea used to suffered in their hands or it might be due to they underrated small teams.

If you look at Chelsea recent performance against Barcelona and Arsenal, no one will expect Chelsea will lose to Leeds United that's still struggling under the table.

[Not your key not your BTC]

Damn! How unfortunate Wirtz is. His goal against Sunderland being marked as OG by Sunderland player. So he's yet to scoring nor assisting since he joined Liverpool a few months ago. At this point it's really worth to send him back to the Bundesliga instead of keeping him in Liverpool much longer.
Even Premier League itself cruelly denied his goal against Sunderland.

He's so struggle to score. I won't be surprised if he will end this season with fewer goals only, but most likely achievable during the mid - late season. Any thought about him?

Thought he was awarded the assist, no?

Unfortunate is not the right word to use on the German midfielder as regards the player's current form at Liverpool, Wirtz is quite an exceptional player who is yet to blend in the Liverpool settings, but this doesn't mean that there isn't room for improvement for the player, he needs time to adapt to the English style of football which is sometimes difficult for some players after they move to a new club and a new country, maybe next season might be different for the German international.

Most new players don't immediately shine, especially in the competitive Premier League. Wirtz did need time to develop his best form, but fans were disappointed with his performance, as he was bought for a high price. It's understandable that expectations were high for him to perform exceptionally well.

[Volgastallion]

What a disaster game from Chelsea yesterday, they cant fight for anything playing like that, sorry for them but what i saw yesterday was a comple failure, and they have a few of this games in the season under the Maresca coaching they need to solve this.

About Liverpool.... i cant say nothing seems like the players wants Slot out.

[SmartCharpa]

Chelsea cannot just win every game, I do not know what people are expecting of them but we are talking about a team that is not been that good for long, they have been decent this season and just because of that there are a lot of people expecting them to win. Of course there will be some games like these because they are a new team at the top, they haven't been near the top for long, specially majority of their players and their manager didn't see a top finish yet, so it's normal to have these results.

You are right, Chelsea cannot win everyof their game, and we do not expect Chelsea to lose every of their game to any weak team as well. If someone had told me that Chelsea would concede more than two goals against Leeds, I would have disagreed before the match, because this is the team fighting for relegation, but they managed to beat Chelsea, the world champions lost, and it was a terrible performance from the team.

Maresca underestimated Leeds, that's why he used that formation before the game, how could you start Badiashile as a center defender, Chalobah as a right back, and bench Gusto for the first half? He doesn't have to start Badiashile, who is not in good form since last season. Even though their key players were not available in that game, at least they should get a draw.

[Akbarkoe]

If Chelsea win today, things will really heat up at the top. Leeds United have lost their last few matches and they need to end this poor run. Chelsea could be their victims. This is a match where mistakes won't be tolerated. Manchester City barely managed to beat Leeds with a last-minute goal just last 4 days ago. Now it's Chelsea's turn. Leeds United must earn points because they've slipped into the relegation zone. Farke actually has a good squad, they don't deserve to be in the relegation zone.

The match is in progress and Chelsea are still losing, in the first half they lost 2 goals which was led by Leeds, it was really disappointing for this first half, Jaka Bijol registered his goal in the 6th minute which surprised me that he could do it quickly, Leeds really didn't stop here. The second half became a hope for Chelsea, Pedro Neto reduced the deficit, for now the match is 2-1 and Leeds United still won.

Yesterday match shows that Chelsea lost control,  they need to be more consistence, work more on their midfield control, if they really want to carry this premier League trophy this season, Leeds played very well I was so shocked because I never believe they will win Almighty Chelsea, I just feel for Chelsea fans yesterday because they feel they could win Leeds.

Leeds is known to play strongly at home, we have known that for a long time, but what was unexpected was Chelsea who fell victim to Leeds' strength, I don't know how they were able to do that, even though Chelsea was in top condition overall, 3 -1 is not a score that can be considered to mean that Chelsea is in good condition, in fact we think that Chelsea is worse, consistency is important if you want to get maximum wins, but a team should have ups and downs in performance.

[Wake Up]

If Chelsea win today, things will really heat up at the top. Leeds United have lost their last few matches and they need to end this poor run. Chelsea could be their victims. This is a match where mistakes won't be tolerated. Manchester City barely managed to beat Leeds with a last-minute goal just last 4 days ago. Now it's Chelsea's turn. Leeds United must earn points because they've slipped into the relegation zone. Farke actually has a good squad, they don't deserve to be in the relegation zone.

The match is in progress and Chelsea are still losing, in the first half they lost 2 goals which was led by Leeds, it was really disappointing for this first half, Jaka Bijol registered his goal in the 6th minute which surprised me that he could do it quickly, Leeds really didn't stop here. The second half became a hope for Chelsea, Pedro Neto reduced the deficit, for now the match is 2-1 and Leeds United still won.

Yesterday match shows that Chelsea lost control,  they need to be more consistence, work more on their midfield control, if they really want to carry this premier League trophy this season, Leeds played very well I was so shocked because I never believe they will win Almighty Chelsea, I just feel for Chelsea fans yesterday because they feel they could win Leeds.

Leeds is known to play strongly at home, we have known that for a long time, but what was unexpected was Chelsea who fell victim to Leeds' strength, I don't know how they were able to do that, even though Chelsea was in top condition overall, 3 -1 is not a score that can be considered to mean that Chelsea is in good condition, in fact we think that Chelsea is worse, consistency is important if you want to get maximum wins, but a team should have ups and downs in performance.

Isn't that why the Premier League is so exciting? Before the match, many had bet on Chelsea winning, but the game on the pitch was completely different. Leeds United played magnificently in front of their home crowd and left a strong team like Chelsea empty-handed. Chelsea didn't earn any points from this match, putting them in a poor position in the Champions League race. Leeds, on the other hand, earned the three points with a fantastic victory. With this victory, Leeds climbed above the relegation zone.