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December 04, 2025, 10:35:51 PM
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Okay.. that was a brilliant attempt by Mbeumo which would have led to the first goal of the game if not for the athleticism of West ham goalie. So far, both sides has had some attempts but it's man united that has had some serious attacks at goal so far. They've been quite persistent so far.. Hopefully it pays off and they go into half time with the lead.

Wan-Bissaka really helped west ham as he headed a ball out that would have surely been a goal if not for him. Asides that, he has been very instrumental in helping his side defend with some nice tackles.

Disappointing results again a win should have catapult Manchester United to the to four regions, but they will have to go on to the next match to see how they can do that.
Blaming the manager is useless, he brought in the right players to manage the game. Dorgu is the only name and player I think shouldn't have been brought on into the game. January transfer is close by, Manchester United directors better get Ruben Amorim two good players to fight for top four better.

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December 04, 2025, 10:42:51 PM
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Manchester United is not inform this season and that is why they are always losing and drawing matches, they always have a way to break the heart of there fans, the problem of Manchester United is too big because the problem is all the Manchester United players, West Ham is not even inform because they didn't play well that goal they scored was by luck, Manchester United should work on their self because they are not performing as expected even with all the players they bought this season, I think the only solution for Manchester United right now is to be hard on the players the coach should not take things easy with them anymore because they are disappointing everyone.

4 loss, 4 draw and 6 win is wild. This match took place here in Old Trafford and they couldn't contain Westham, like there is nothing special about them, you see how Manchester United was making them run in the field but their back line isn't good today but most importantly this formation is bad. I don't know what Zirkzee was doing in that line throughout, like is it that bad to this length for Manchester United, why not fix Mbeumo at the front and put that guy at the back.

Last month 11 November make it 1 year since Amorim took over the club, by next year it's going to be 2 years, I'm not in support of him losing the club but I will agree with any local law within the club to pay less payment to coaches if this kind of situation arises. It's going to motivate the coach to do well and this should be attached to the players too, they shouldn't be exempted from this punishment. I think this way clubs that want improvement will naturally change and not to before.
The least Manchester United would have done today was to win this game, i wonder why they always disappoint football fans..After all the money spent on the club they are still a complete mess, at this point the whole team needs to be dissolved cause the players are doing nothing..it is a shame that they used to be one of the biggest in the past but now they play every game like they are the underdogs

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December 04, 2025, 11:15:41 PM
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Manchester United is not inform this season and that is why they are always losing and drawing matches, they always have a way to break the heart of there fans, the problem of Manchester United is too big because the problem is all the Manchester United players, West Ham is not even inform because they didn't play well that goal they scored was by luck, Manchester United should work on their self because they are not performing as expected even with all the players they bought this season, I think the only solution for Manchester United right now is to be hard on the players the coach should not take things easy with them anymore because they are disappointing everyone.
If you watch closely, you will see that United's major challenge these days is defending set pieces, especially corner kicks, so far, they have conceded about 7 corner kick goals in the PL this season, only wolves are ahead of them in this stat with 9 corner kicks conceded. In the first game of the season when United faced Arsenal, their overall performance was impressive but they also conceded through a corner kick. Even in today's game, the goal they conceded was as a result of a corner kick. IMO, United should hire another set piece coach if they want to stand a chance to finish in a better position in the league this season.
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December 04, 2025, 11:29:05 PM
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Manchester United is not inform this season and that is why they are always losing and drawing matches, they always have a way to break the heart of there fans, the problem of Manchester United is too big because the problem is all the Manchester United players

Manchester United might not be in their best form but, I enjoyed how they were able to manage the first half in this fixture. They showed strength and resilience in going forward to attack the West Ham United side and you just knew they were going to come up with something in this round, a draw wasn’t so bad a result for them but, i would have expected them to win, given how dominant they were in the first half. Too bad they are not as good defensively to hold on to their lead after they’ve got it.

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December 04, 2025, 11:53:54 PM
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Manchester United might not be in their best form but, I enjoyed how they were able to manage the first half in this fixture. They showed strength and resilience in going forward to attack the West Ham United side and you just knew they were going to come up with something in this round, a draw wasn’t so bad a result for them but, i would have expected them to win, given how dominant they were in the first half. Too bad they are not as good defensively to hold on to their lead after they’ve got it.

Seriously I don’t think there should be any room for Manchester United to be given credit in my opinion. For the last four matches and look at the games that Manchester United have dropped points, a draw at Tottenham Hotspur and Nottingham Forest, a lost at home to 10 men Everton, then a win at Crystal Palace follows by this draw now at home to West Ham United, this losses were against any team that even a Europa league club hunt would have won talk more of a club looking to actually play in the champions league next season.

The most frustrating thing about all this points dropped was that Manchester United had actually played not so bad against the top opponents of the league so early when the season started That their next 10 games since after Liverpool games were against clubs that any one who had beaten Chelsea and Liverpool at those time were suppose to be getting maximum points, this is even the period when fellow top four competitors are dropping points but yet again Manchester United just lost the opportunity yet again. I think this draws raises doubts about Amorim future in my opinion

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December 04, 2025, 11:59:45 PM
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Seriously I don’t think there should be any room for Manchester United to be given credit in my opinion. For the last four matches and look at the games that Manchester United have dropped points, a draw at Tottenham Hotspur and Nottingham Forest, a lost at home to 10 men Everton, then a win at Crystal Palace follows by this draw now at home to West Ham United, this losses were against any team that even a Europa league club hunt would have won talk more of a club looking to actually play in the champions league next season.

The most frustrating thing about all this points dropped was that Manchester United had actually played not so bad against the top opponents of the league so early when the season started That their next 10 games since after Liverpool games were against clubs that any one who had beaten Chelsea and Liverpool at those time were suppose to be getting maximum points, this is even the period when fellow top four competitors are dropping points but yet again Manchester United just lost the opportunity yet again. I think this draws raises doubts about Amorim future in my opinion
Compared to how things turned out last season, I would try to give them some credit for now. Yes, the performance is as good as everyone expects, but these things take time, or even years to build. Amorim needs more time and support at Manchester United, otherwise they will be in for more years of looking for a good coach while the time continues to languish in the mid to the bottom part of the table.

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December 05, 2025, 12:12:09 AM
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Disappointing results again a win should have catapult Manchester United to the to four regions, but they will have to go on to the next match to see how they can do that.

It's okay to say that the result must be very disappointing to every Manchester United fan's, because they had the opportunity to put themselves in the same point with Chelsea and also be in the top 4 battle,  but they just miss the opportunity now. They not really out of the race for the top 4, since it's just a 2 point gap now, but they have to be more consistent if they want to end in the top 4. Credit to Westham United top, I think they had to fight hard for the equalizer and it was well deserved.

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December 05, 2025, 12:16:10 AM
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Compared to how things turned out last season, I would try to give them some credit for now. Yes, the performance is as good as everyone expects, but these things take time, or even years to build. Amorim needs more time and support at Manchester United, otherwise they will be in for more years of looking for a good coach while the time continues to languish in the mid to the bottom part of the table.

In all honesty I wouldn’t actually say that this things actually are been built easily but let’s be sincere there should be any identity while trying to build and this is what every Manchester United fan asks off. The reason most people are not comfortable or confident I should say about Ruben Amorim is his lack of flexibility, I can tell you lots of great coaches who had their own idea of how they want their team to play but immediately they came to the premier league they simply had a change of heart simply because they had since that it’s only flexibility that works with the league. Example is the Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola who came from Bayern Munich with his Tiki Taka football and he nearly missed out on the champions league and the following season spent above 200 million on the defense only after criticizing such in the past. Same flexibility was seen with Alex Ferguson,

Right Now we are witnessing the reign of Ruben Amorim who is actually sticked to the old pattern than his team must play same pattern they play against top teams with high quality and hold more of the balls to a lower level team who are most happy to sit back and be happy with a draw and one point back home. If we look at this Amorim formation it requires a team to not have much of the ball but against lower level teams there is no way that a club like Manchester United wouldn’t be having lots of the ball against a team like West Ham United

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December 05, 2025, 12:17:54 AM
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Leeds United and Chelsea match was really a surprise to me, because the result wasn’t something I expected. With how Chelsea performance have been going this while I expected Chelsea to easily win the match. But they could t, Leeds United was ready for Chelsea I can see that during that match, if not like that Chelsea is suppose to be  able to win, but they failed. I just hope this is not a sign of getting decline in their performance, they should win their next match to cover this disappointment they did to their fans yesterday against Leeds United.
Yeah, welcome to the Premier League!. Nothing on impossible in the league where the level of competition is very high between clubs. There is no big, underdog, or weak team in the Premier League; all clubs are the same, and have a chance to win all matches. Maresca admitted that he acknowledged their attacking strategy and how fast their defense was to anticipate every attack. Chelsea has a problem with defense; there is miscommunication between Gusto and Tosin that allows Leeds to stumble the Chelsea defense. They just need to fix it immediately because Aston Villa was shift their standing position on table.

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December 05, 2025, 12:43:22 AM
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Okay.. that was a brilliant attempt by Mbeumo which would have led to the first goal of the game if not for the athleticism of West ham goalie. So far, both sides has had some attempts but it's man united that has had some serious attacks at goal so far. They've been quite persistent so far.. Hopefully it pays off and they go into half time with the lead.

Wan-Bissaka really helped west ham as he headed a ball out that would have surely been a goal if not for him. Asides that, he has been very instrumental in helping his side defend with some nice tackles.

Disappointing results again a win should have catapult Manchester United to the to four regions, but they will have to go on to the next match to see how they can do that.
Blaming the manager is useless, he brought in the right players to manage the game. Dorgu is the only name and player I think shouldn't have been brought on into the game. January transfer is close by, Manchester United directors better get Ruben Amorim two good players to fight for top four better.
Manchester United are still struggling with their sickness I’m not sure they’ve recovered so players is not their problem, any player you think is the problem send him out and you’ll see that player doing well in his new club. I think the Manager has to come up with a plan or strategy to win matches cos the three points is what is important.
I think this new Manchester United managers should seek for advice and tips from Sir Alex Ferguson. How did he do it so well and convincingly at the top for a while. Man U dominated EPL during his time.

 
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December 05, 2025, 06:21:57 AM
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Yeah, Chelsea actually destroyed a lot of bettors tickets with their poor performance against Leeds United in their yesterday encounter, and I am still honestly wondering how they (Chelsea) managed to hold Arsenal to a 1-1 draw last week with this type of awful performance they displayed against Leeds yester night.
That team likes to do players evil and sometimes in begin to think is the defeat is due to fans expecting too much from Chelsea that made them to fumble in the pitch getting beating without mercy. It was so so unfortunate for Chelsea to be among the clubs that cut our tickets. That is a past event for now and Manchester United did the same shit yesterday drawing their match.

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December 05, 2025, 06:54:52 AM
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I watched the Chelsea match and the truth is it felt like Chelsea were a club from second division. Defenders that started were amateurs at best let's not even talk about midfield or that creature Chelsea call an attacker. Leeds were confident in how they play and the result showed this. They played and felt like they were the bigger team and Chelsea was different from the team that played Arsenal to a draw.

Leeds United and Chelsea match was really a surprise to me, because the result wasn’t something I expected. With how Chelsea performance have been going this while I expected Chelsea to easily win the match. But they could t, Leeds United was ready for Chelsea I can see that during that match, if not like that Chelsea is suppose to be  able to win, but they failed. I just hope this is not a sign of getting decline in their performance, they should win their next match to cover this disappointment they did to their fans yesterday against Leeds United.

On a normal day, that is how Chelsea usually perform. They win against bigger teams and lose against smaller ones. Even though I know Leeds United are not that small, Chelsea were still not supposed to lose that game. But what has happened has happened, and nothing can change it. Chelsea need to work on themselves; maybe they will have a chance to change this poor performance. If not, they will still not be able to get anything this season, and they may not even finish the season as a top-four team in the table.

Although their next match is tomorrow, which is against Bournemouth, and it will be an away game for them, maybe Chelsea might still win, we don’t know

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December 05, 2025, 07:45:57 AM
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4 loss, 4 draw and 6 win is wild. This match took place here in Old Trafford and they couldn't contain Westham, like there is nothing special about them, you see how Manchester United was making them run in the field but their back line isn't good today but most importantly this formation is bad. I don't know what Zirkzee was doing in that line throughout, like is it that bad to this length for Manchester United, why not fix Mbeumo at the front and put that guy at the back.

Manchester United are just not the serious type just imagine playing a draw in their own home—that's just crazy. And they were holding on to that single goal for a long time, more than half of the game, and winning against West Ham should not have be a difficult decision, they would have made, but from the beginning, Manchester's attempts were crazy because West Ham was not a match for them, and no matter the formation manchester united is using, they will still disappoint because what was that they did yesterday?

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Last month 11 November make it 1 year since Amorim took over the club, by next year it's going to be 2 years, I'm not in support of him losing the club but I will agree with any local law within the club to pay less payment to coaches if this kind of situation arises. It's going to motivate the coach to do well and this should be attached to the players too, they shouldn't be exempted from this punishment. I think this way clubs that want improvement will naturally change and not to before.

The way Manchester United is, I don't think their issue is because of the coach, because they keep making changes, and nothing has changed. If it were about coaching, then Amorim would have made a big difference by now, so they are saying that they should increase the payment of the coaches so that it will help things become better. I noticed something that players are given more privileges than coaches, because if you look at it, if the management is not getting results, then the coach is getting sacked, but it's not the same for players.











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December 05, 2025, 07:56:19 AM
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Manchester United might not be in their best form but, I enjoyed how they were able to manage the first half in this fixture. They showed strength and resilience in going forward to attack the West Ham United side and you just knew they were going to come up with something in this round, a draw wasn’t so bad a result for them but, i would have expected them to win, given how dominant they were in the first half. Too bad they are not as good defensively to hold on to their lead after they’ve got it.

Their defense is bad. This is proven by the number of goals conceded by Manchester United up to the 14th match. Winning 1-0, they were unable to maintain that lead as you said, so in the 83rd minute West Ham United were able to equalize the score at 1-1.
Three defenders with Amorim's flagship formation, the Portuguese coach played Heaven in the middle accompanied by Shaw and Mazraoui. Martinez is there, but maybe he's not 100% fit yet.

The match against West Ham United is actually a good opportunity for Manchester United at Old Trafford to move up the standings. Fifth position in the standings will belong to Manchester United, but that's Manchester United.

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December 05, 2025, 08:21:32 AM
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Yeah, welcome to the Premier League!. Nothing on impossible in the league where the level of competition is very high between clubs. There is no big, underdog, or weak team in the Premier League; all clubs are the same, and have a chance to win all matches. Maresca admitted that he acknowledged their attacking strategy and how fast their defense was to anticipate every attack. Chelsea has a problem with defense; there is miscommunication between Gusto and Tosin that allows Leeds to stumble the Chelsea defense. They just need to fix it immediately because Aston Villa was shift their standing position on table.
That's why the Premier League is considered quite competitive compared to other leagues because even teams at the bottom can draw or beat top teams. For Premier League football fans, results like this aren't that surprising because we see them so often. Chelsea's defense was very problematic in that match, and perhaps a lack of teamwork allowed Leeds to beat them. Chelsea missed a chance to win the match due to their ineffective play. In contrast, Manchester United, facing a team at the bottom of the table were ultimately held to a draw perhaps even more surprising.


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Manchester United is not inform this season and that is why they are always losing and drawing matches, they always have a way to break the heart of there fans, the problem of Manchester United is too big because the problem is all the Manchester United players, West Ham is not even inform because they didn't play well that goal they scored was by luck, Manchester United should work on their self because they are not performing as expected even with all the players they bought this season, I think the only solution for Manchester United right now is to be hard on the players the coach should not take things easy with them anymore because they are disappointing everyone.

4 loss, 4 draw and 6 win is wild. This match took place here in Old Trafford and they couldn't contain Westham, like there is nothing special about them, you see how Manchester United was making them run in the field but their back line isn't good today but most importantly this formation is bad. I don't know what Zirkzee was doing in that line throughout, like is it that bad to this length for Manchester United, why not fix Mbeumo at the front and put that guy at the back.

Last month 11 November make it 1 year since Amorim took over the club, by next year it's going to be 2 years, I'm not in support of him losing the club but I will agree with any local law within the club to pay less payment to coaches if this kind of situation arises. It's going to motivate the coach to do well and this should be attached to the players too, they shouldn't be exempted from this punishment. I think this way clubs that want improvement will naturally change and not to before.
Manchester United is just finished no doubt how can they tell me that even to win Westham that is not even in good form is a big problem to them imagine people that played goalless draw in the first half of the game then managed to score one at the second half instead of their brain to tell them that the match is not an easy one and they need to defend that one goal instead they feel so relotant and let Westham to equalize the goal, and to them that's how they can manage to qualify for any European competition this season, in short Manchester United should just remove their minds on anything European competition this season that's final.

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December 05, 2025, 09:02:57 AM
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. I think the Manager has to come up with a plan or strategy to win matches cos the three points is what is important.
I am not going to deny Ruben amorin is doing his best, but to be honest, he is not good enough to manage a team as big as Manchester United, because weeks after weeks he has proven why he is not good enough for the job.
Don't get me wrong, I hold no grudge against him but the job is bigger than him.
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I think this new Manchester United managers should seek for advice and tips from Sir Alex Ferguson. How did he do it so well and convincingly at the top for a while. Man U dominated EPL during his time.
Why it was very easy for sir Alex Ferguson to dominate the English premier League so much then was because their was no much competition like now, then it was only arsenal, before Chelsea later came into the fray , and he later retired when Manchester City was just came into the mix, so if pep guardiola and klopp was present then in the epl then, he wouldn't have dominated the league like he does then.

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It was hell of a game week though. First a 4-5 game between Fulham and Manchester City. And its being followed by a 3-4 one in which Brighton hosted Aston Villa.  Smiley

The comeback by Aston Villa was really incredible... Emery has managed to make them strong again despite the bad start to the season. 4 wins in a row recently and they are at the 3rd position now!

Even teams like Liverpool can't show the same reaction for many weeks. By the way Slot got some more time probably thanks to saving a draw at least.

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The least Manchester United would have done today was to win this game, i wonder why they always disappoint football fans..After all the money spent on the club they are still a complete mess, at this point the whole team needs to be dissolved cause the players are doing nothing..it is a shame that they used to be one of the biggest in the past but now they play every game like they are the underdogs
It's a shame that fans had high expectations for Manchester United, but their continued poor form has left them deeply frustrated. Last night was a crucial match. If Manchester United had beaten West Ham United, they would have finished in the big four this week. However, the 1-1 draw leaves them in eighth place in the table, which is very frustrating indeed. I really hope for a miracle for Manchester United. This great club needs to get back on track as one of Europe's top clubs. Bruno Fernandes must contribute something to this club this season. Even if they can't win the Premier League title again, they need to win other trophies.

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December 05, 2025, 09:43:44 AM
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The least Manchester United would have done today was to win this game, i wonder why they always disappoint football fans..After all the money spent on the club they are still a complete mess, at this point the whole team needs to be dissolved cause the players are doing nothing..it is a shame that they used to be one of the biggest in the past but now they play every game like they are the underdogs
It's a shame that fans had high expectations for Manchester United, but their continued poor form has left them deeply frustrated. Last night was a crucial match. If Manchester United had beaten West Ham United, they would have finished in the big four this week. However, the 1-1 draw leaves them in eighth place in the table, which is very frustrating indeed. I really hope for a miracle for Manchester United. This great club needs to get back on track as one of Europe's top clubs. Bruno Fernandes must contribute something to this club this season. Even if they can't win the Premier League title again, they need to win other trophies.
Manchester United is actually doing there best this season because if we are to compare there performance this season and last season the difference is very clear. Even if they didn't make it to the top 4 at least there is not of progress in there performance and I believe by next season there performance will definitely improve. However, as for other league they may be able to win a trophy this season. I believe the 8th place in the league table isn't that bad.

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