⚽ Premier League 2025/2026 Discussion Thread ⚽

[tygeade]

Gabriel Jesus has 3 goals so far, Gyokeres has 9 goals so far. Gyokeres scores roughly once every two games so far in the season and that doesn't look like a bad deal to me. Not saying Jesus is worse, of course Jesus is a great player but people are making out to be like Gabriel Jesus is this amazing striker and Gyokeres sucks so bad.

The gap between them is not that much and I honestly believe that we are seeing something quite similar in both of them. If I was the manager it would be a tough decision no matter who I ended up picking. Doesn't mean that I would prefer Gyokeres, maybe I would, or maybe I would pick Jesus, but I would see them both quite the same level. Not like people here who think Gyokeres is worse.

[Mate2237]

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Since this is not the first time Arsenal is showing this kind of weakness, we don't need to be surprised because this might be another disformation they are trying to prove that will make either Manchester City to over take them or Manchester United if United maintain their formation to defeat more clubs while Arsenal is either playing draws or losing their matches.

I don't see that happening Arsenal is comfortable leading the table with some points and I don't see Arsenal allowing City or any other team to overtaking them. This season Arsenal has been playing well this is not the Arsenal team that we have been seen other years. This is because they had been playing with all levels of seriousness knowing what is at stake for them this season. Arsenal is at advantage going by the way other teams has been struggling throughout the season.


Arsenal will learn from this lose against Manchester United as a lesson and try and maintain a good form going forward, knowing that any further drop of points will not be good to their premier League title hopes.

[Wakate]

I don't see that happening Arsenal is comfortable leading the table with some points and I don't see Arsenal allowing City or any other team to overtaking them. This season Arsenal has been playing well this is not the Arsenal team that we have been seen other years. This is because they had been playing with all levels of seriousness knowing what is at stake for them this season. Arsenal is at advantage going by the way other teams has been struggling throughout the season.

I am not saying that Arsenal is not in a good shape with the way they are playing but with the way they have been drawing matches, and losing to Manchester United we could see a slow outcome from Arsenal about them ever maintaining their top position.
We have seen serious clubs recently that are engaging decisively with good formation that could give them more points to over take Arsenal.

[Solodoski]

However, I see Arsenal's front line this season has started to look good compared to last season and I think we also don't need to judge Arsenal too much just because of their defeat against Man United, there is nothing wrong with Arsenal's performance, it's just that they can't maintain consistency in their performance, that's what has been their problem in the last few seasons.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose to Manchester United. They have a more complete squad from last season. All their key players are available. Those who went injured last season are now back from injuries, everything seems to be working out for them so well.

We can say they have 3 teams in total. Team A, Team B and Team C. I still think they can stay top till the league ends, because other club behind them are likely to drop points too.

[slapper]

Gabriel Jesus has 3 goals so far, Gyokeres has 9 goals so far. Gyokeres scores roughly once every two games so far in the season and that doesn't look like a bad deal to me. Not saying Jesus is worse, of course Jesus is a great player but people are making out to be like Gabriel Jesus is this amazing striker and Gyokeres sucks so bad.

The gap between them is not that much and I honestly believe that we are seeing something quite similar in both of them. If I was the manager it would be a tough decision no matter who I ended up picking. Doesn't mean that I would prefer Gyokeres, maybe I would, or maybe I would pick Jesus, but I would see them both quite the same level. Not like people here who think Gyokeres is worse.

Nine goals sounds decent. HOwever, most of them came in cups or against teams that actually tried to play football. He's got five and two are pens in the league. That's three achievable goals since August. And not one, literally not ONE, did when Arsenal were behind. I'm not even saying that he is rubbish. The man got a mark of 97 at Sporting for crying out loud.

But Arsenal don't play like Sporting. At all. Gyokeres likes space behind defenders - long balls, run, finish. Simple. Brutal. Effective. Except Arsenal do face teams sitting with ten men in their own box every single week

Where's he supposed to run? Through the chest of the center-back? Their wingers developed six proper chances for Gyokeres all season. Haaland gets thirty.

So yeah, they're not as far off as people think. But for radically different reasons than what you're saying.

[justinlamode]

I don't see that happening Arsenal is comfortable leading the table with some points and I don't see Arsenal allowing City or any other team to overtaking them. This season Arsenal has been playing well this is not the Arsenal team that we have been seen other years. This is because they had been playing with all levels of seriousness knowing what is at stake for them this season. Arsenal is at advantage going by the way other teams has been struggling throughout the season.

I am not saying that Arsenal is not in a good shape with the way they are playing but with the way they have been drawing matches, and losing to Manchester United we could see a slow outcome from Arsenal about them ever maintaining their top position.
We have seen serious clubs recently that are engaging decisively with good formation that could give them more points to over take Arsenal.

Arsenal loss to Manchester United have been balanced by Manchester City loss to same club too so it as little to no effect,  although Arsena would have done everything possible to avoid that loss to keep them in good lead. Four points is not much of a great deal to close but since Manchester City are not finding things easy too, then Arsenal can seize tha opportunity to add more points to the gap so they .ale it difficult for Manchester City to catch up with them.

[Marykeller]

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Since this is not the first time Arsenal is showing this kind of weakness, we don't need to be surprised because this might be another disformation they are trying to prove that will make either Manchester City to over take them or Manchester United if United maintain their formation to defeat more clubs while Arsenal is either playing draws or losing their matches.

I don't see that happening Arsenal is comfortable leading the table with some points and I don't see Arsenal allowing City or any other team to overtaking them. This season Arsenal has been playing well this is not the Arsenal team that we have been seen other years. This is because they had been playing with all levels of seriousness knowing what is at stake for them this season. Arsenal is at advantage going by the way other teams has been struggling throughout the season.


Arsenal will learn from this lose against Manchester United as a lesson and try and maintain a good form going forward, knowing that any further drop of points will not be good to their premier League title hopes.

You better see it this way that Arsenal might lose the Premier League trophy again. The four points they are leading Manchester City with, are not many that Manchester City can top them with. Arsenal has missed good chances they would have used to top Manchester City by up to 9 points if they had won their last two matches(Nottm Forest and Manchester United) to seal their Premier League ambition of lifting this season's PL trophy. Is it this time that Manchester City are close to them couple with the new signings they have made to strengthen their formation.

[hyudien]

Gabriel Jesus has 3 goals so far, Gyokeres has 9 goals so far. Gyokeres scores roughly once every two games so far in the season and that doesn't look like a bad deal to me. Not saying Jesus is worse, of course Jesus is a great player but people are making out to be like Gabriel Jesus is this amazing striker and Gyokeres sucks so bad.

The gap between them is not that much and I honestly believe that we are seeing something quite similar in both of them. If I was the manager it would be a tough decision no matter who I ended up picking. Doesn't mean that I would prefer Gyokeres, maybe I would, or maybe I would pick Jesus, but I would see them both quite the same level. Not like people here who think Gyokeres is worse.

Both have different skills, which the team needs in times of trouble at a certain point. Gabriel Jesus is known for his high work ethic and strong pressing ability, while Gyo is smart in his off-the-ball movement and aerial duels. Both have their strengths and that balance could allow Arteta to play them when he needs to, I won't compare the two, it's not necessary for me. And in terms of goal productivity, Gyo is ahead at the moment but it's also worth remembering that Gabriel Jesus has made fewer appearances this season, which is why he behind Gyo.

[Ndabagi01]

Gabriel Jesus has 3 goals so far, Gyokeres has 9 goals so far. Gyokeres scores roughly once every two games so far in the season and that doesn't look like a bad deal to me. Not saying Jesus is worse, of course Jesus is a great player but people are making out to be like Gabriel Jesus is this amazing striker and Gyokeres sucks so bad.

The gap between them is not that much and I honestly believe that we are seeing something quite similar in both of them. If I was the manager it would be a tough decision no matter who I ended up picking. Doesn't mean that I would prefer Gyokeres, maybe I would, or maybe I would pick Jesus, but I would see them both quite the same level. Not like people here who think Gyokeres is worse.

Why Gyokeres has been seen like this is because of what he was signed for specially. He is the most latest signing for Arsenal and his role as a striker is to score as many goals as he can for the club as they play in all competitions. He hasn’t been able to score as many goals as expected and this is due to pattern of play Arteta is using which doesn’t really give the chance for attackers to be goal scorers.

All the players in the team are mostly goal scorers and we can’t get to see as much goals from them. I think the difference in number of goals scored by this two players is the number of games they get to play and also how they get to have a good scoring opportunity when provided by their teammates in all matches.

[Abu-Naim]

Gabriel Jesus has 3 goals so far, Gyokeres has 9 goals so far. Gyokeres scores roughly once every two games so far in the season and that doesn't look like a bad deal to me. Not saying Jesus is worse, of course Jesus is a great player but people are making out to be like Gabriel Jesus is this amazing striker and Gyokeres sucks so bad.

The gap between them is not that much and I honestly believe that we are seeing something quite similar in both of them. If I was the manager it would be a tough decision no matter who I ended up picking. Doesn't mean that I would prefer Gyokeres, maybe I would, or maybe I would pick Jesus, but I would see them both quite the same level. Not like people here who think Gyokeres is worse.

Both Gabriel Jesus and Victor Guokeress are good strikers that have different pattern of play, they are only playing in the same position, but their individual style of playing quite different that is why they are all useful to Arsenal.

Record wise, Gyokeress have more career goals as a striker than Gabriel Jesus, but when it comes football skills, Gabriel Jesus is far better than Gyokeress; therefore, they are different types of players that all knows what they can offer their team.

However, I think Gyokeress has started to adapt to the teams pattern of play because he scored goals recently, unlike before when he is only scoring occasionally. I think both of them are amazing and will help Arsenal towards their goal of winning the title this season.

[Callido]

I am not saying that Arsenal is not in a good shape with the way they are playing but with the way they have been drawing matches, and losing to Manchester United we could see a slow outcome from Arsenal about them ever maintaining their top position.
We have seen serious clubs recently that are engaging decisively with good formation that could give them more points to over take Arsenal.

The slowdown wasn't necessary if Arsenal felt the need to protect their league title race against City. Manchester City, on the other side too, is not up and doing, they pose a high risk of losing even to the smallest team. Stability has been an issue for them in a long run, since the point difference has collapsed, City should have more reason to fight better for the title, there is still a chance for them.

[Youngrebel]

You better see it this way that Arsenal might lose the Premier League trophy again. The four points they are leading Manchester City with, are not many that Manchester City can top them with. Arsenal has missed good chances they would have used to top Manchester City by up to 9 points if they had won their last two matches(Nottm Forest and Manchester United) to seal their Premier League ambition of lifting this season's PL trophy. Is it this time that Manchester City are close to them couple with the new signings they have made to strengthen their formation.

Though Arsenal is leading the League from the beginning but I also don't think they'll win the title because teams are coming up to challenge them. Unless Arsenal increase their performance and becomes unbearable before they can win the league titled. Once Arsenal loss the next game, there will be no hope for them to win the trophy but they might play the final but they will not win the trophy. There is a possibility that Manchester United or Manchester City or Liverpool might win the trophy.

[Nightwatchmare]

Arsenal just won inter milan in the Uefa champions league at the San Siro in Milan Italy few days before the match against Manchester United what do you mean you need to start seeing Arsenal play better.
I don't think losing to Manchester United means Arsenal isn't playing better, right now the motivation at United is high and it will be hard for them to lose to a big team. With that Manchester United performance I now see why Manchester City could not even score a goal.

I don't know why they are seeing Arsenal as a team that has dropped form just because they lost against Manchester United a team that just got a interim manager that is doing everything to secure the contract. Nothing is wrong with Arsenal they are still very much in good form and if you watched their game against Inter Milan you will not also watch anyone talk down about the form of Arsenal. The form of Manchester United right now will see them beat Arsenal and Manchester City if they meet again cause the motivation in the term is really high and the players have the zeal to in now.

Arsenal have not dropped form, but losing to Manchester United when they are supposed to win is a big mess for Arsenal, and it will influence Manchester City to improve their performance since the points Arsenal is leading them with is now small. Arsenal's performance in the champions league is impressive but in the premier league, Arsenal winning power has reduced, and Arsenal has been struggling lately in the premier league to win their matches, so think something is wrong with Arsenal.

[Issa56]

I am not saying that Arsenal is not in a good shape with the way they are playing but with the way they have been drawing matches, and losing to Manchester United we could see a slow outcome from Arsenal about them ever maintaining their top position.

I don’t even think anyone will say Arsenal performance isn’t good right now, they have been playing well since the beginning of the season, but I don’t just know the cause of sudden decline in their performance right now. They are not suppose to be playing draw and losing matches, three matches played, and Arsenal couldn’t get even a win in those 3 matches, thats really a sad one.

A club that wants to win the premier league title isn’t suppose to be losing and playing draw in critical moments like this, honestly Arsenal will just have to work on their performance, they have to go back to their winning streak if they really want to win the premier league this season.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Tottenham, on the 14th position on the EPL table, and still in the Champions League lost against a team that had 22 losses and finished 17th last season. It's so sad that they couldn't defeat burnley.

Tottenham actually created chances this time around, and could have easily walked away with more goals, but The fault lies squarely with their execution. strikers were clinically lacking and there was no composure to finish in a slightest opportunity in front of the goal.
 Tottenham won't win the English premier League anytime soon, they still don't have a striker. Alternatively, Could this be the new tactic being invented by Tottenham? Defenders spear-heading the attacks? If not, I guess the defenders and forwards should switch positions since they'd rely on the center backs to do all the work on both sides of the pitch.

[Makus]

However, I see Arsenal's front line this season has started to look good compared to last season and I think we also don't need to judge Arsenal too much just because of their defeat against Man United, there is nothing wrong with Arsenal's performance, it's just that they can't maintain consistency in their performance, that's what has been their problem in the last few seasons.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose to Manchester United. They have a more complete squad from last season. All their key players are available. Those who went injured last season are now back from injuries, everything seems to be working out for them so well.

We can say they have 3 teams in total. Team A, Team B and Team C. I still think they can stay top till the league ends, because other club behind them are likely to drop points too.

perhaps they weren't prepared enough for Manchester United or they underestimated them. Arsenal has the best squad in the premier league at the moment but they couldn't even win united, it was disappointing but I hope they win their next matches and get enough points to surpass city and Aston villa. right now Manchester United are also doing well and if they continue they might be a threat to Arsenal. let's see how well they perform against Fulham on sunday.

[ancafe]

perhaps they weren't prepared enough for Manchester United or they underestimated them. Arsenal has the best squad in the premier league at the moment but they couldn't even win united, it was disappointing but I hope they win their next matches and get enough points to surpass city and Aston villa. right now Manchester United are also doing well and if they continue they might be a threat to Arsenal

There's no such thing as being underprepared or underestimating an opponent in the Premier League, especially a team like Arsenal, who are fighting for trophies. The opposite is true as Manchester United's improved performance has made it difficult for Arsenal to win this match as Manchester United themselves seem highly motivated. Arsenal can't afford another defeat in their next match as a repeat would give Manchester City or Aston Villa the advantage. Manchester United won't pose a threat to Arsenal because the points gap is quite large and I think Arsenal needs to be wary of Manchester City.

[Barikui1]

There's no such thing as being underprepared or underestimating an opponent in the Premier League, especially a team like Arsenal, who are fighting for trophies. The opposite is true as Manchester United's improved performance has made it difficult for Arsenal to win this match as Manchester United themselves seem highly motivated. Arsenal can't afford another defeat in their next match as a repeat would give Manchester City or Aston Villa the advantage. Manchester United won't pose a threat to Arsenal because the points gap is quite large and I think Arsenal needs to be wary of Manchester City.

Arsenal have a very good team but am just surprised that their mentality has been messed up to the point where they feels like they can't win consistently as they normally does during the first halve of the season, because by the look of things, and the rate at which they are going in the league, they might drop to second position anytime soon, if they can't stay consistent now that the season is at the defining moment. The only reason they are still at the top of the English premier League is because the team below them is not equally doing exceptionally well.

[bitgolden]

They bought Gyokeres, but his performance hasn't lived up to expectations and even his goal-scoring ability is very different from what he did at his old club. Overall, Arsenal's performance has been much better than in previous seasons, but dropping points in recent matches has brought them closer to Manchester City and Aston Villa. I also don't understand why Arsenal's strikers haven't been able to reach their full potential like the prolific strikers of other teams as they should have the best strikers currently available.

Giving up on him right away makes no sense to me. Sure he gets subbed in almost every game, but you need to see that he is doing a great job when he is playing and he should be the starter.

Jesus is a good player I have nothing against him, but he is not as good as Gyokeres and also Gyokeres is a very physical striker as well, tires the defenders out and runs around and be physical which means the defenders would be tired out by the near the end, trying to chase him and contain him.

[Bigjoe33]

Gabriel Jesus has 3 goals so far, Gyokeres has 9 goals so far. Gyokeres scores roughly once every two games so far in the season and that doesn't look like a bad deal to me. Not saying Jesus is worse, of course Jesus is a great player but people are making out to be like Gabriel Jesus is this amazing striker and Gyokeres sucks so bad.

The gap between them is not that much and I honestly believe that we are seeing something quite similar in both of them. If I was the manager it would be a tough decision no matter who I ended up picking. Doesn't mean that I would prefer Gyokeres, maybe I would, or maybe I would pick Jesus, but I would see them both quite the same level. Not like people here who think Gyokeres is worse.

Sure, I quite agree with you on this. There performance, not at the highest level, bit somehow good. None is greater than another presently. Gabriel has his good sides and flaws, Gykores too. Just like you said, if you were to be the manager, it would be a tough decision to make, who to start or who not to. For me, I would prefer a rotation always, either one starts off, the other ends it, just like the game against Manchester United. But who starts gets a little better time than who ends it. But it wouldn't be a constant thing that one will always start all games, I think a steady rotation will be a good option for the players