avp2306
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July 22, 2023, 08:34:44 AM |
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Let new or old gamblers who rely mostly on only those paid services beware, because if it's only for me, where do I even have all the time to go looking for prediction groups?
The thing is that most of those that believe in all this paid speculator group service are mostly newbies who don't know how these so-called scammers behave and how their practice and avoiding them is the best possible way to go because if truly they have a working prediction bet it will be easier for them make all the money from the winning why then do they want to get other involved such as taking fees from people to the supplier they make predictions. Well, some will lie to you by telling you the reason why they are giving picks or predictions to interested gamblers is because they themselves win too much, and have been either limited or banned by majorly all the casinos they are interested playing on. They come with different tactics trying to advance over their victims who are not smart enough to think twice. This very tactics I uncovered was in my very early beginning as a gambler, had this guy I met at the bet house in the course of our gambling we talked I told him I was new to gamble and he offered to give me a number I should chat with that the guy is a professional who I can be getting reliable predictions from, free for the first trial then thereafter I have to be paying for the subsequent. Behold the first predictions played out well for me, I got captivated and paid a good sum for the next and decided to use big amount to wager unfortunately I lost that very one, and same thing with those that followed. I wasted alot in buying fake predictions and staking high on them in hopes. It was later I uncovered that the very guy I met at the bet house was working together with this same so-called professional he introduced me to. It was all business for them. I won't say there ain't genuine prediction groups but they're like 1 out of 5 and this makes it hard to get involved cause the genuine ones are not made public or pronounced like the fake ones are. If they ask for payments to make you a VIP or add you ok VIP group then present different subscription and rates then provably they are just collecting money and scamming is their main intention on why they create that group. Maybe there are legitimate groups but most of those groups we see online are just another shit since they are not doing great and to many people can testify that after they purchase a subscription they didn't get benefit on the group they are following.
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QueenVera
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July 22, 2023, 10:15:44 AM |
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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..
My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.
In as much as gambling is considered a risk and most times the losses are greater than the wins there are people who i don't know if I'm permitted to say are born lucky or luck always shine on their side, and others who have mastered the game and always come up with good strategies of winning big, most of them have gotten so rich and decided to use their wealth and gambling skills to chase fame thereby giving them exposure to connect with richer people. There's a saying that you know a rich person by the number of people they made wealthy or successful,so maybe they might be so generous to help people succeed in gambling as well by teaching them the strategies of how they were able to become successful through it, I've also seen situation where some punters not only teach their strategies but carry out cash give aways and also give game options with possible winnings. Let's say for instance I'm a very successful punter with good winning mentality and doing well financially through gambling why won't I want to share my knowledge to friends and families or even to loyal fans on social media to benefit from it as well.
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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July 22, 2023, 10:57:35 AM |
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The thing is that most of those that believe in all this paid speculator group service are mostly newbies who don't know how these so-called scammers behave and how their practice and avoiding them is the best possible way to go because if truly they have a working prediction bet it will be easier for them make all the money from the winning why then do they want to get other involved such as taking fees from people to the supplier they make predictions. You are right, mate. Sometimes I also used to wonder why they (those scammers) would be giving out games for paid service when they could still stake those games on their own and make a big profit if it was really legit. So, that's even a convincing reason to believe that they are fake. Like you said, most newbies fall into those categories. I agree with you. I myself would rather use the money to bet on the predictions that I make than use the money to buy predictions that are not clear. Even if you are not really experienced in gambling, it's better to meet someone who knows more than you and ask them to guide you or possibly give you some games, which they will gladly do for free because they also know that winning is very uncertain.
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July 22, 2023, 11:06:47 AM |
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You are right, mate. Sometimes I also used to wonder why they (those scammers) would be giving out games for paid service when they could still stake those games on their own and make a big profit if it was really legit. So, that's even a convincing reason to believe that they are fake. Like you said, most newbies fall into those categories. I agree with you.
What if there are sports handicappers who do not want to take the risk and only want to earn from their expertise? It could be possible since they wouldn't need to risk their own money. With an increasing number of subscribers, they could make more money, making this kind of business potentially more profitable than gambling with their own funds. In the end, it still depends on us if we believe in the expert's advice; then, we have the option to pay for the service, but it's not compulsory.
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Gozie51
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July 22, 2023, 11:27:49 AM |
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I myself would rather use the money to bet on the predictions that I make than use the money to buy predictions that are not clear.
Even if you are not really experienced in gambling, it's better to meet someone who knows more than you and ask them to guide you or possibly give you some games, which they will gladly do for free because they also know that winning is very uncertain. Not really the way you think. Gamblers sometimes don't feel free to release games to other gambler even especially when they feel it is a game possible for winning. That gambler may be feeling he has lost more times than the other person therefore considering it a chance for his own turn. Most gamblers who rely on groups for their prediction want what will be given to them because they subscribe to it and not that they will beg for it but all in all there are no guarantee winning game.
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Jody.Drummer
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July 22, 2023, 02:46:40 PM |
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I myself would rather use the money to bet on the predictions that I make than use the money to buy predictions that are not clear.
Even if you are not really experienced in gambling, it's better to meet someone who knows more than you and ask them to guide you or possibly give you some games, which they will gladly do for free because they also know that winning is very uncertain. Not really the way you think. Gamblers sometimes don't feel free to release games to other gambler even especially when they feel it is a game possible for winning. That gambler may be feeling he has lost more times than the other person therefore considering it a chance for his own turn. Most gamblers who rely on groups for their prediction want what will be given to them because they subscribe to it and not that they will beg for it but all in all there are no guarantee winning game. I think there is a misunderstanding here, I caught what @tusandii said is giving the procedure of playing or the rules of the game or something like that, not directing someone to play in the game, but the way of playing itself. I think it is better when someone does not understand the game, rather than having to play the game without knowledge. The most basic thing is when the error for the nominal bet, because I also sometimes like to forget to set the amount of the bet, not because of ignorance but because of forgetting or lack of focus.
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July 22, 2023, 03:19:56 PM |
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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
The simple answer to their claims is that they lie about it, and a lie can't make people to win more times in real life. That's why they try to manipulate others with those lies so the people would pay them in order to learn those winning strategies as well as those useless signals that will never work at all. Their main intention is to loot money out of the pockets of those greedy gamblers who would pay anything to learn those strategies. My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.
No, most of those groups aren't legit and a gambler who follows those groups can face huge losses due to his/her stupidity. They are just running a successful business model to trap those greedy gamblers and get free money from those gamblers without any good a useful bets. I recommend you to avoid such groups at any cost because they won't be helpful for you to earn money, but instead they will get money out of your own pocket. Those groups are run by scammers, and anyone who falls into their trap will end up losing money directly as well as money in the form of useless bets.
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July 22, 2023, 03:29:37 PM |
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You are right, mate. Sometimes I also used to wonder why they (those scammers) would be giving out games for paid service when they could still stake those games on their own and make a big profit if it was really legit. So, that's even a convincing reason to believe that they are fake. Like you said, most newbies fall into those categories. I agree with you.
What if there are sports handicappers who do not want to take the risk and only want to earn from their expertise? It could be possible since they wouldn't need to risk their own money. With an increasing number of subscribers, they could make more money, making this kind of business potentially more profitable than gambling with their own funds. In the end, it still depends on us if we believe in the expert's advice; then, we have the option to pay for the service, but it's not compulsory. Such a business has become bigger as more people are looking for it to join and are willing to spend their money to get tips from those paid groups. Perhaps, they can make money from placing bets based on their predictions. But they can earn more money the more people join the paid group. We also don't know whether those groups are truly experts in analyzing each game because we don't know the members very well. Perhaps, we can look for groups that don't pay instead of having to spend some money to join.
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July 22, 2023, 03:37:28 PM |
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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..
My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.
People are getting hopeless with their gambling so they seek help from other gamblers too, if this is a sports gambling there's a normal thing that they are seeking for the groups trying to bet too because they want to have a tip or secondary opinion of other people. Personally, I always make a background check for the gambling event or the sports event happening so I can make a decision but not all games I know even though I have data, it takes time to do a review to check if the team is currently ideal to bet with or not reason why I check the groups if they tried to bet too and if they place a bet already and what are their thoughts. But seeking a mentor in that case its a big no for me. They are just lazy to check an information.
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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July 22, 2023, 07:10:00 PM |
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What if there are sports handicappers who do not want to take the risk and only want to earn from their expertise? It could be possible since they wouldn't need to risk their own money. With an increasing number of subscribers, they could make more money, making this kind of business potentially more profitable than gambling with their own funds. LOL, I get your point, but what you are saying now is that gambling newbies who fall victim to paying for those games are just being stupid 🤪. How can those handicappers (as you tagged them) not want to risk their own money, but they know that they are putting other gamblers funds at risk by seling out games and assuring the gambler that the game is a correct score. Perhaps they are still receiving payment from the gambler they sold those games to. In the end, it still depends on us if we believe in the expert's advice; then, we have the option to pay for the service, but it's not compulsory. exactly, just as Wiwo has said, "only newbies will mostly want to make those mistakes." Personally, I would not make that kind of mistake unless, perhaps, the person gave me the game and we agreed to share the percentage after the win.
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I myself would rather use the money to bet on the predictions that I make than use the money to buy predictions that are not clear.
Even if you are not really experienced in gambling, it's better to meet someone who knows more than you and ask them to guide you or possibly give you some games, which they will gladly do for free because they also know that winning is very uncertain. Not really the way you think. Gamblers sometimes don't feel free to release games to other gambler even especially when they feel it is a game possible for winning. That gambler may be feeling he has lost more times than the other person therefore considering it a chance for his own turn. Most gamblers who rely on groups for their prediction want what will be given to them because they subscribe to it and not that they will beg for it but all in all there is no guarantee of winning the game. That is true because some of the predictions are arrived at after rigorous research and work that the speculator could have invested in the process of the games selections, and that will make him want to sell it to anyone willing to follow his pattern and if there are lucky enough, there could make winnings from the game, but you must also be prepared for the risk because there is the possibility of losing the game also. So I go in line with what both of you stated regarding this topic, and why so.e groups peg a price tag to all those things.
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July 22, 2023, 08:44:36 PM |
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My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit?
Perhaps groups on WhatsApp or telegram? I have never heard of such, but the possibility of such is 99.9% for certain. Although, I do listen to a radio program on the weekends and in the mornings of some days where the anchor and co-host, only give out predictions and odds while the listening fans play to their own discretion. I have also seen someone, a former neighbor of mine back then, who gave out accurate predictions, and yes, he plays them and wins more than he loses. I have still never understood the kind of luck he had till date, because it favored him big time.
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July 22, 2023, 10:13:03 PM |
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I myself would rather use the money to bet on the predictions that I make than use the money to buy predictions that are not clear.
Even if you are not really experienced in gambling, it's better to meet someone who knows more than you and ask them to guide you or possibly give you some games, which they will gladly do for free because they also know that winning is very uncertain. Not really the way you think. Gamblers sometimes don't feel free to release games to other gambler even especially when they feel it is a game possible for winning. That gambler may be feeling he has lost more times than the other person therefore considering it a chance for his own turn. Most gamblers who rely on groups for their prediction want what will be given to them because they subscribe to it and not that they will beg for it but all in all there is no guarantee of winning the game. That is true because some of the predictions are arrived at after rigorous research and work that the speculator could have invested in the process of the games selections, and that will make him want to sell it to anyone willing to follow his pattern and if there are lucky enough, there could make winnings from the game, but you must also be prepared for the risk because there is the possibility of losing the game also. So I go in line with what both of you stated regarding this topic, and why so.e groups peg a price tag to all those things. IF we see it from that point of view, they are absolutely right, because important things like information sometimes have to be paid to obtain data, the research that is done is also something that has to be seen, it is not good sometimes to regulate the work, because only paying is when it is recognized that it is a good job, I have gotten groups where they give predictions but the truth is that in those groups they only do it for a month, then you have to pay, I have also come across groups where the predictions They are free, but I don't know how good they are, if they win or if they win more than they lose, because that's important.
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July 22, 2023, 10:42:49 PM |
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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..
My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.
People are getting hopeless with their gambling so they seek help from other gamblers too, if this is a sports gambling there's a normal thing that they are seeking for the groups trying to bet too because they want to have a tip or secondary opinion of other people. Personally, I always make a background check for the gambling event or the sports event happening so I can make a decision but not all games I know even though I have data, it takes time to do a review to check if the team is currently ideal to bet with or not reason why I check the groups if they tried to bet too and if they place a bet already and what are their thoughts. But seeking a mentor in that case its a big no for me. They are just lazy to check an information. Talk about taking the easy way out! Your critique hits the nail on the head, as far too many gamblers want quick tips without doing the homework. A bit of arrogance is okay when you've got the facts to back it up, right? My take? Its crucial to know your game, your team, the conditions - EVERYTHING. While secondary opinions can provide additional insights, one's own research and understanding should be the primary decision driver. Heck, even the most successful investors didnt become billionaires by blindly following the herd. Lazy, thats what I call those who rely solely on others' opinions. Do they expect to hit the jackpot every time without investing any effort? Cognitive dissonance, maybe? Or resentment for those who put in the work and reap the rewards? Hard to tell. Either way, their loss.
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They know well that gambling is just a choice of winning. Each player have got the probability of winning as well as losing. Finally the result depends on the luck one have got. This is the reason why the sports groups share predictions and make money out of it. Just an assumption, if the group consists of 200 members and the group receives a subscription of $5/month what is more needed. Even for this there'll be more terms and conditions that state winning of bets weren't assured. To be on the right side without taking risk the best choice were to have a group. There are few users who are really good at prediction and provide free tips on games.
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July 23, 2023, 06:42:30 AM |
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You both right that there are lots of scammers. But the same time i know that there are some groups where you can get profit. I told before that i was in such a group. If you pay fixed price for predictions - it is 100% scammers. If you pay some percent from your profit - it looks much better. But of course, i don`t recommend to try to join such groups - the probability of the scam is too high.
You are right, there are some that would say you should place the bet, and if you win, they will have some percentage. Those ones seem to be better than the ones where you will have to make a full payment to those scammers, thinking they are real when they are not. The only people I know who can fall victim to this are mostly new gamblers who are always looking for sure ways to make more wins in gambling, but for me, I don't believe it's possible to make such mistakes. Anyway, i have to notice that such groups are real. The problem that there are huge quantity of scammers and we can`t believe in such groups. The same time, if it would be so easy to find such groups, the bookie would lose a lot. And as we know - the casino is the business, so they`d change odds or even close sport betting if it isn`t profitable.
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You are right, mate. Sometimes I also used to wonder why they (those scammers) would be giving out games for paid service when they could still stake those games on their own and make a big profit if it was really legit. So, that's even a convincing reason to believe that they are fake. Like you said, most newbies fall into those categories. I agree with you.
What if there are sports handicappers who do not want to take the risk and only want to earn from their expertise? It could be possible since they wouldn't need to risk their own money. With an increasing number of subscribers, they could make more money, making this kind of business potentially more profitable than gambling with their own funds. In the end, it still depends on us if we believe in the expert's advice; then, we have the option to pay for the service, but it's not compulsory. They basically earn way more money from their subscribers than they could earn through betting if they were to do that, and they might do it as well since that will double the profit for them, and what makes this business lucrative for people is the newbies who enter gambling and wants to have someone as their guide when they are placing bets on sports events, so that is the reason why every other person is trying to become an expert and run this business. And newbies mostly don't see who is behind those signals being provided and they blindly follow them and they tend to lose a lot of money this way, but those who are providing those signals are earning through the fees they collect from these newbies who have become their subscribers.
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July 23, 2023, 05:27:54 PM |
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And as we know - the casino is the business, so they`d change odds or even close sport betting if it isn`t profitable.
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
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July 23, 2023, 07:42:14 PM |
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...//::: You are good old man, ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) , well maybe only +18 (age) simply you are surely using common sense, some people use it immediately, but in my time as a poker player it could be what is called reverse psychology, that is, if his intention is "that", what does he expect me to do, I mention it like that in a few words, but generally in poker one seeks to understand what he is looking for with his bet, the villain, that is to deceive, scam, make me believe... etc. On the other hand, certainly in the game of poker, it is a closed environment, a table, a group of players who want to deceive each other, there is no doubt what is wanted in that group of players. Now, bringing that to the point of your approach, it's simple, what group are you in?, so, e.g. If there's something there on Telegram or any link... you already know where the intentions of those who are there want to take you. In fact, some of these groups always have people who give strategy, but it is only the "bait" to catch the "fish" or fish, since it is a term used to catch newbies and fall into social engineering or phishing. (Then comes friendship, they already leave the group and try through DM, etc. then bump to give the big hit, not profit for you, that is, when he decides to fy you, especially it can take months even years, always remember, where you know him from, ah! yes from the internet) On the other hand, there are groups that give information because is the reality of social life, what we have lost due to distrust, scams, etc. But, there are people or groups, yes, very closed where the information is shared, but obviously it is generally people you know, etc.
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suzanne5223
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July 23, 2023, 08:20:28 PM |
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If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.
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