Are there real sports bet groups

[coinerer]

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I can`t do it. It was just an example of daily predictions in one of the real groups. There are different strategies. Some groups searching such matches, other search difference between odds that different bookies gives us, some others have other ways to get profit. But it is possible, that such groups work due to their small quantity. In other way it can become a serious problem for bookies.

This means they combine their information; later, another group will analyze the best choice for each match. If that's what they do, they might have a chance of winning because each group might be able to get a lot of information. Some search for information using different methods but still want to win in every match. And that's what people who want to look for betting groups have to be careful of because not all groups can share their predictions or collect information to analyze them. They should start learning to analyze so they don't depend on groups like that.

Not only for gambling no one should depend in others for anything. own research is a best way to success. But if op joins a group, he can get some ideas from there and match his personal predictions with them. But betting according to predictions from any group is not a smart person's job. So always do your own research and then bet according to your predictions. In this case, confidence and chances of winning will be more

[n0ne]

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I can`t do it. It was just an example of daily predictions in one of the real groups. There are different strategies. Some groups searching such matches, other search difference between odds that different bookies gives us, some others have other ways to get profit. But it is possible, that such groups work due to their small quantity. In other way it can become a serious problem for bookies.

This means they combine their information; later, another group will analyze the best choice for each match. If that's what they do, they might have a chance of winning because each group might be able to get a lot of information. Some search for information using different methods but still want to win in every match. And that's what people who want to look for betting groups have to be careful of because not all groups can share their predictions or collect information to analyze them. They should start learning to analyze so they don't depend on groups like that.

Not only for gambling no one should depend in others for anything. own research is a best way to success. But if op joins a group, he can get some ideas from there and match his personal predictions with them. But betting according to predictions from any group is not a smart person's job. So always do your own research and then bet according to your predictions. In this case, confidence and chances of winning will be more

As stated these groups can be considered as a reference and further we can make our own analysis about the teams and the players involved in the particular game. This will help to understand the better part and predict the right odds. Even with these kind of groups we need to be careful, because there are fake groups that operate same as the real one and request fund to make combined bets and the profit can be shared. Better way is to learn how to predict the outcome of the match.

[Bushdark]

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I can`t do it. It was just an example of daily predictions in one of the real groups. There are different strategies. Some groups searching such matches, other search difference between odds that different bookies gives us, some others have other ways to get profit. But it is possible, that such groups work due to their small quantity. In other way it can become a serious problem for bookies.

This means they combine their information; later, another group will analyze the best choice for each match. If that's what they do, they might have a chance of winning because each group might be able to get a lot of information. Some search for information using different methods but still want to win in every match. And that's what people who want to look for betting groups have to be careful of because not all groups can share their predictions or collect information to analyze them. They should start learning to analyze so they don't depend on groups like that.

Not only for gambling no one should depend in others for anything. own research is a best way to success. But if op joins a group, he can get some ideas from there and match his personal predictions with them. But betting according to predictions from any group is not a smart person's job. So always do your own research and then bet according to your predictions. In this case, confidence and chances of winning will be more

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too. There are aloa thread here where we can get game predictions and access it if we are very interested in using betting predictions to analyse and enhance our gambling activities. This group can help us a lot to share our own perspective about a particular match on those options we intend to bet on them and make good profits from the market.

[Japinat]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

[Fredomago]

Yeah I agree with you, finding a legit betting group could actually seem impossible because there are  lot of groups which offers betting games but at last the person will end up losing out, what most betting groups normally do is to get some wining bets pictures from other platform and post it on there own group to lure people coming to subscribe with them knowing fully well that most people always love easy ways of getting something, which has actually lead to many victims of wrong betting group.

So the best way is just focusing on the little knowledge someone can predict for himself because in the game of betting nobody is perfect one could Actually improve and figure out a strategy that could actually favor him instead of relying on betting group.

Good point and that's really happening there are betting groups that posted other prediction especially those winning prediction to allure those people/gambler who always aiming for quick benefits, gambler who don't want to spend time to do research and deeper study with the kind of sports that they wanted to place their bets.

Most of the time if not always, they are victims of so-called expert prediction which lead them to lose more instead of the money that they only use for betting but the payment for betting group that's no guarantee that will convert something for them.

I recently came across a group on telegram where the owner post free sports predictions every day, since the channel was completely free to subscribe to,( I mean he charges no fees at all, there is no vip of any kind), and for the fact that I've become very busy this days that I hardly have time to analyze games and find good ones to bet on, I decided to give the channel a try with very little amount of money, I started copying and betting on all the games the channel owner posts on the channel, I did it for about one week and hard my initial deposit more than doubled, I was really excited and was planning to put more money in but unfortunately, all of a sudden, all his games started losing, it continued to lose until I lost all the profit I previously made including my capital, I felt really disappointed and haven't played any of the guy's predictions again, even though he is still posting constantly ..

What am I saying, this things can't be relied on, even those who get games from vip channels, there is still no guarantee of consistent winning in the long term , this is why it's not advisable to subscribe to such cus it's usually not worth it in the long run .

True, there are times that prediction may win but in terms of constant win inside gambling that's really something that we can say not usual, there's no guarantee even the odd is really good or even you pick small percentage of losing if luck is not with you that kind of bet will still or can still be lost, sports betting group may exist and will continue to provide services both free and paid predictions but one thing is for sure, with gambling, there are no such kind of sure bet, everything still have it's respective risk once you place your bet/money inside.

[mak013]

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I can`t do it. It was just an example of daily predictions in one of the real groups. There are different strategies. Some groups searching such matches, other search difference between odds that different bookies gives us, some others have other ways to get profit. But it is possible, that such groups work due to their small quantity. In other way it can become a serious problem for bookies.

This means they combine their information; later, another group will analyze the best choice for each match. If that's what they do, they might have a chance of winning because each group might be able to get a lot of information. Some search for information using different methods but still want to win in every match. And that's what people who want to look for betting groups have to be careful of because not all groups can share their predictions or collect information to analyze them. They should start learning to analyze so they don't depend on groups like that.

Not so. Different groups use different ways to get profit. A part of groups use(sometimes they even develop themselves) special software to search difference between bookies odds. Some groups searching online broadcast to catch moment when the teams scores and the bookie hasn`t change the odds. Some groups analyze matches. Of course they can combine these ways, but mostly they use one or two of them - it is difficult enough to bet in different ways.

[LUCKMCFLY]

However, finding verified groups can provide good information is hard. Usually, these groups are not shared publicly;

This is indeed correct. If there's a group that is consistently profitable in sports betting, it will likely operate privately, with only a select few people in the know. The fewer people who know, the better it is for them as they can protect their interests. When the general public becomes aware of a particular betting group, bookmakers are more likely to adjust their odds to avoid significant losses, ensuring they still come out on top.

That's why we have what's called 'public bets' and 'sharp bets.' Public bets tend to lose more often, which is why only a few individuals or groups genuinely succeed in gambling.

Well, regarding this, there are many groups that are sports, sports betting that always have two statuses, the first is a public that gives signals to everyone in a general way, but they say that there are more signals but they are only exclusive for VIPs, VIPs are groups that really have other issues. The first is that you pay a subscription, the second is that a VIP group pays monthly, and third, the results may not be very favorable, which means that everything can be done. It leads to a level of percentages, that is, from 100% they have 80% effectiveness, something like that, the bad thing is that when you enter these groups the results do not agree, because things are not like that. In sports betting, in casinos, the safest thing for us is to lose, the most difficult thing is to win, because you must have ideal luck and the highest bet to go big with a good profit, meanwhile it is difficult hit the jackpot, however the deaths can sometimes look good if the gains are greater than the losses.

I have not been active in a VIP group in sports betting, because it seems to me that they are in the sports that I do not like, they hardly give predictions for football or UFC or boxing, the ones they do give are for basketball, baseball, tennis And they are sports that I really don't know. And then betting on a sport that I don't like, that is difficult to give a result and that I have absolutely no knowledge of, is not my style, because at least in football I can analyze my own criteria and see if it matches that of the predictor, but in the case of those sports, I would have to accept their predictions without knowing if they are right or wrong, those are things that I don't like, doing everything as well as leaving everything up in the air and taking action from the other and even more so because in the predictions do not give any type of analysis or the reason for those predictions, so it is something that I don't like, because I don't know if it actually does the analysis or does it simply make a draw, something like that and choose, I don't know, maybe No, but I can think like that.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

Very well spoken and I completely agree with you bud, I was even wondering what exactly made Bushdark say that which he said, that particular line in his comment is completely false and probably born out of lack of proper knowledge, I personally have used some predictions and betting groups before on telegram,  and even till today, I still belong to some of those groups, I am not going to speak on the fact that the greater percentage of those groups are nothing but scammers looking for unsuspecting and desperate gamblers to scam, but if I will just focus on the ones that are legit, or looked like they are since they never asked their subscribers to buy any VIP subscription shit, I would say that in all my months of betting on picks from this groups, it has never helped me improve in my knowledge of sports.

Gaining knowledge in sports is something that is born out of ones personal research, constant participation in all sports events, and also, follow ups on those events that are missed, becoming knowledgeable in sports, like any other skill, will require the person sacrifice money and time, and also put in effort, for without effort, nothing can really be achieved.

[Wiwo]

True, there are times that prediction may win but in terms of constant win inside gambling that's really something that we can say not usual, there's no guarantee even the odd is really good or even you pick small percentage of losing if luck is not with you that kind of bet will still or can still be lost, sports betting group may exist and will continue to provide services both free and paid predictions but one thing is for sure, with gambling, there are no such kind of sure bet, everything still have it's respective risk once you place your bet/money inside.

At some point I wanted to conclude that,  gambling have it own lucky day and time,  this is because in gambling have discovered that some days I will have consistent winning at a certain time,  while if I continue the same patterns the following day,  iay experience significant loses no matter how hard I try to speculate the games correctly.

So it is very possible that while it become more obvious that in gambling there can never be continues winning,  but then we all have our lucky days which we must have in mind and follow up with the whole process accurately so as to stay ahead even if not all the time.

[maydna]

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Not only for gambling no one should depend in others for anything. own research is a best way to success. But if op joins a group, he can get some ideas from there and match his personal predictions with them. But betting according to predictions from any group is not a smart person's job. So always do your own research and then bet according to your predictions. In this case, confidence and chances of winning will be more

That's right. They have to find their own way to have analytical skills. After all, if they have good analysis, they don't need to rely on the group, and maybe they can become more skilled to make money from gambling. Joining several prediction groups can make him learn many things, and he can also ask how to analyze properly and correctly so that he can start trying it himself and testing it until he can analyze it well. Learning betting analysis is difficult because we have to collect more information from various sources. But it's worth doing, especially if we want to be a bettor in sports betting.

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Not so. Different groups use different ways to get profit. A part of groups use(sometimes they even develop themselves) special software to search difference between bookies odds. Some groups searching online broadcast to catch moment when the teams scores and the bookie hasn`t change the odds. Some groups analyze matches. Of course they can combine these ways, but mostly they use one or two of them - it is difficult enough to bet in different ways.

That makes it difficult for people to learn the analysis used by each group because they have different methods, so those of us who want to learn it need more time. And it will depend on how we choose the ways we will study. We can also combine each of these methods to find better ways. We will only find out by continuing to test it through betting on many matches to find out what needs to be improved.

[South Park]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

As soon as you see any guarantee that you will make profits with their tips you should run away, since there is no way to guarantee that, there are too many factors which can make a person to lose money even if they were given the right information about the team or player to place a bet on, so many things can go wrong that guaranteeing profits should not be possible, so when you read that a gambler says that they can then most likely you have encountered yet another scammer.

[Fatunad]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

As soon as you see any guarantee that you will make profits with their tips you should run away, since there is no way to guarantee that, there are too many factors which can make a person to lose money even if they were given the right information about the team or player to place a bet on, so many things can go wrong that guaranteeing profits should not be possible, so when you read that a gambler says that they can then most likely you have encountered yet another scammer.

Newbies do usually fall on this one because they do really believe that they might be true and something that legit and would really be making out that such profit without having doing that hardwork and this is something
that the newbies would really be thinking and preferring and this is why they would really be that believing on something until they would really be able to realize later on on whats the reality on the time that they would really be experiencing some loss of money and this is something that would really be that so common is on which on the time that you would experiencing losses then this is where people do usually be mindful
about their actions on next time. Its better to make your own bets on your own rather than on relying yourself with these so called groups because those people are really just that pure speculators or bettors
as well. Fixed games information isnt something that would be easily be known on or would really be that easily to be surfaced out such info unless if you are really that belong into a group of mafia
or to those who are really have very rich.

[Fredomago]

True, there are times that prediction may win but in terms of constant win inside gambling that's really something that we can say not usual, there's no guarantee even the odd is really good or even you pick small percentage of losing if luck is not with you that kind of bet will still or can still be lost, sports betting group may exist and will continue to provide services both free and paid predictions but one thing is for sure, with gambling, there are no such kind of sure bet, everything still have it's respective risk once you place your bet/money inside.

At some point I wanted to conclude that,  gambling have it own lucky day and time,  this is because in gambling have discovered that some days I will have consistent winning at a certain time,  while if I continue the same patterns the following day,  iay experience significant loses no matter how hard I try to speculate the games correctly.

So it is very possible that while it become more obvious that in gambling there can never be continues winning,  but then we all have our lucky days which we must have in mind and follow up with the whole process accurately so as to stay ahead even if not all the time.

Luck is always a factor and yes, you still need to understand the game and you need to continue learning how to analyze well and how to manage your bankroll. I see your point, and it's really happening with gamblers who think that they already have the knowledge, but eventually they still lose the bet. Either the player or the team they think have an edge will not perform well.

It's all about how you decide your judgments and like on the first statement, it's also with the luck that you have during the time you place your pick.

[ethereumhunter]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

As soon as you see any guarantee that you will make profits with their tips you should run away, since there is no way to guarantee that, there are too many factors which can make a person to lose money even if they were given the right information about the team or player to place a bet on, so many things can go wrong that guaranteeing profits should not be possible, so when you read that a gambler says that they can then most likely you have encountered yet another scammer.

I agree with @South Park in that no matter what, their service won't work long term. And before they finally stop giving betting tips, it's better for us to immediately go and look for other information so we can learn for ourselves. That would be better for us because no one can guarantee that their tips will continue to provide benefits for their members. We have to be wise in using the service and before we experience fraud, we have to be able to leave the group, especially if it is a paid group on Telegram. We know that on Telegram, many scamming groups like that are ready to take our money and their reason is that it is a subscription fee to receive tips from them. We have to be careful in this matter and don't fall for the scam they commit.

[Hirose UK]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

However I agree with you that the Telegram group will never guarantee that we can win easily.
Some betting groups out there actually provide false predictions that are misleading or give losses to customers who follow the group prediction broadcasts.
Trusting the betting groups found on Telegram is like believing in a myth that cannot be authentic.

If you want to hone your skills and knowledge in gambling or predicting results the only way is to learn which means studying all forms of sporting activities or several games so that we can look for opportunities or create opportunities for ourselves to be able to bet without relying on other people predictions.
It is true that studying predictions will cost you money because when we get a prediction we will risk it but at least from this there will be a sense of caution and a sense of responsibility for the predictions we make ourselves.

[mak013]

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Not so. Different groups use different ways to get profit. A part of groups use(sometimes they even develop themselves) special software to search difference between bookies odds. Some groups searching online broadcast to catch moment when the teams scores and the bookie hasn`t change the odds. Some groups analyze matches. Of course they can combine these ways, but mostly they use one or two of them - it is difficult enough to bet in different ways.

That makes it difficult for people to learn the analysis used by each group because they have different methods, so those of us who want to learn it need more time. And it will depend on how we choose the ways we will study. We can also combine each of these methods to find better ways. We will only find out by continuing to test it through betting on many matches to find out what needs to be improved.

It isn`t only analyze. It is using different software, sometimes it is about cheating. Not everybody likes it. I think that we can study to analyze in such groups, but i don`t think that we can study how to develop some software. The same time it is difficult to use 2-3 types of software and analyze matches the same moment. But it is all about details. The main idea is that there are such real groups and it is possible to get stable profit from these groups, but we mustn`t give our money for every group we see.

[maydna]

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It isn`t only analyze. It is using different software, sometimes it is about cheating. Not everybody likes it. I think that we can study to analyze in such groups, but i don`t think that we can study how to develop some software. The same time it is difficult to use 2-3 types of software and analyze matches the same moment. But it is all about details. The main idea is that there are such real groups and it is possible to get stable profit from these groups, but we mustn`t give our money for every group we see.

To create software requires expertise, and not everyone can create it. Only people who understand software and can program can create software. But it is true what you say that we can also learn to analyze from that group better. And the best part is that we will not depend on that group because our analytical skills can improve. But even so, we still have to keep learning to be better than before. So learning to analyze will be useful for improving our analytical skills so that we can be like that group and not give their money to them.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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I can`t do it. It was just an example of daily predictions in one of the real groups. There are different strategies. Some groups searching such matches, other search difference between odds that different bookies gives us, some others have other ways to get profit. But it is possible, that such groups work due to their small quantity. In other way it can become a serious problem for bookies.

This means they combine their information; later, another group will analyze the best choice for each match. If that's what they do, they might have a chance of winning because each group might be able to get a lot of information. Some search for information using different methods but still want to win in every match. And that's what people who want to look for betting groups have to be careful of because not all groups can share their predictions or collect information to analyze them. They should start learning to analyze so they don't depend on groups like that.

Not only for gambling no one should depend in others for anything. own research is a best way to success. But if op joins a group, he can get some ideas from there and match his personal predictions with them. But betting according to predictions from any group is not a smart person's job. So always do your own research and then bet according to your predictions. In this case, confidence and chances of winning will be more

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too. There are aloa thread here where we can get game predictions and access it if we are very interested in using betting predictions to analyse and enhance our gambling activities. This group can help us a lot to share our own perspective about a particular match on those options we intend to bet on them and make good profits from the market.

That's just what many of us are looking for, I understand that each person has a way of seeing the game, of seeing the sports and, above all, of how they can emphasize things in order to have a total understanding of things, for example, I really like football. In football I have my own way of placing bets, but how? Based on information, some coaches, some news, and articles in particular that are made about the teams to face, for example, Madrid and Barcelona, do not touch on these teams. I like to investigate everything, from their possible alignment to how they are. the players, if they are good or bad, if the players who have an injury are going to put them on repos or put them to play because they are already somewhat better, it is probable that many things like the news give us clues, the prey slas when they are done the interviews with the technical directors, I agree with all these things, and every day the research is even stronger, to be able to determine very clearly who may have the advantage (for me) according to what I have investigated and according to what they can What to do in comparison with other dates, in this order of ideas is that the conclusion can be drawn that things in this sport can vary, and yes, with respect to the groups on telegram it is good , but when they are Open groups that everyone can decide. his point of view of the analysis.

When they are groups Normally specialized in sports betting, the majority Give their predictions but they are paid groups, they are groups with memberships for anything, for any event, you must pay, you must have or be a VIP and this is what they do. It doesn't suit many of us, because why pay for something, a filter does an analysis and doesn't even tell us the reason for its predictions, they don't give us an intangible or at least a qualitative value to analyze, but just like that, then in this order of ideas Things can remain very strong , by not giving the reason Why.

[Blitzboy]

Gambling group especially on telegram is a good one for those of us that would like to extend our gambling to the next level and also with predictions on sport bet and other sports too.

I respectfully disagree. The concept of extending to the next level only applies if we are winning. However, I doubt that a Telegram group can guarantee profitability for every gambler who joins. Most of these groups make false promises, and only those who lack proper education in gambling may fall for them. Furthermore, relying solely on shared picks doesn't help a gambler improve their knowledge and skills in gambling.

However I agree with you that the Telegram group will never guarantee that we can win easily.
Some betting groups out there actually provide false predictions that are misleading or give losses to customers who follow the group prediction broadcasts.
Trusting the betting groups found on Telegram is like believing in a myth that cannot be authentic.

If you want to hone your skills and knowledge in gambling or predicting results the only way is to learn which means studying all forms of sporting activities or several games so that we can look for opportunities or create opportunities for ourselves to be able to bet without relying on other people predictions.
It is true that studying predictions will cost you money because when we get a prediction we will risk it but at least from this there will be a sense of caution and a sense of responsibility for the predictions we make ourselves.

Its simple to think that these Telegram groups are the golden ticket to quick wins. Sadly, a lot of the time they're scammers or trappers. Its concerning how they take advantage of people's money and trust by making them believe false predictions.

Instead of blindly following others, its crucial to take the time to learn and study the game or sport. Bets that are based on our knowledge feel more authentic. Losses are possible, but at least they will be agreed upon by us. Furthermore, when our understanding-based predictions prove to be accurate, we feel more proud of ourselves.

To gamble responsibly, we must take responsibility for our decisions. And the only way we can achieve that is by becoming informed and not relying on these purported "prediction groups".

[danadc]

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It isn`t only analyze. It is using different software, sometimes it is about cheating. Not everybody likes it. I think that we can study to analyze in such groups, but i don`t think that we can study how to develop some software. The same time it is difficult to use 2-3 types of software and analyze matches the same moment. But it is all about details. The main idea is that there are such real groups and it is possible to get stable profit from these groups, but we mustn`t give our money for every group we see.

To create software requires expertise, and not everyone can create it. Only people who understand software and can program can create software. But it is true what you say that we can also learn to analyze from that group better. And the best part is that we will not depend on that group because our analytical skills can improve. But even so, we still have to keep learning to be better than before. So learning to analyze will be useful for improving our analytical skills so that we can be like that group and not give their money to them.

A common software for a group of sports bettors where they give it automatically, it is also not so difficult because what they do is they put the calendars of the games and from there they give the predictions, what I don't really know is how they manage to do it predictions with so much anticipation because it is like opening the future, of course they lose when they make these bets, but they must have a greater degree of success than failures in the bets, that is what makes someone interested in a group of these and pay, because all this has a monthly payment, something I don't pay because they don't give me any trust , and by not giving me trust I don't have faith in them.