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September 26, 2023, 12:51:35 PM
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I`m talking not only about analyze but about different ways of getting profit from sport betting. We can compare odds that different bookies give us on one event. Sometimes one bookie gives w1 odd 4(for example), and another bookie gives x2 odd 5. So we can get profit anyway if we bet both. But you can`t search online such mistakes manually. And there are other ways to get profit that need software.

So if we are talking only about prediction - we don`t need any software - just internet and lots of free time.

You are referring to arbitrage betting, and no, it's hard to win with that kind of betting if you don't have a decent amount of bankroll. Don't expect to get a difference of at least +100... maybe 1 to 5% is already a good difference that you can exploit. It does not have risk, but it's time-consuming if you don't have enough capital, so I suggest you fulfill that first if you want to try this. Of course, there's a system for doing it as manually can be more like a waste of time, and you won't be able to find the best arbitrage opportunities.

I think there's also risk with arbitrage betting, house might detect you from doing it and they can freeze your account, as we know gambling is a business and not a cash-cow for gambler, once they find you doing this type of gambling they will tag you doing a suspicious kind of betting and there you go it's against the terms and conditions.

And it's true the difference is just a little percentage, but if you have that time and you are willing to take the risk knowing what are the possibilities once you succeed in cashing out your winning then it's good to go.

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September 26, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
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Best to focus on your own knowledge both with sports and any game of luck casino games, instead of using an app or participating with paid groups that don't have any assurance to deliver a win.

Focus on sports, yes, but say no to games of luck because they will never give us a good chance of winning. That's why they're called games of luck, as the house edge will always win, not every day, but in the long run. Since we as gamblers don't stop when we are winning or losing, the end result will always be us losing. So, just treat games of luck as a fun activity, while games of skill as a job. They should be treated differently.
Games of luck only for fun and not for skills and earning. But if you have luck and you win then you will be jubilating. Anyone that is joining groups to win gambling is just wasting their time. Gambling is a personal business and not a group work. If gambling was a group work Lotto gamblers would have earned enough money because I have seen people given numbers to Lottery game users to play and at the end they still loss out. As you said, it is better for someone to gamble in sports and normal casinos.

Sometimes we cannot leave things to luck in sports Betting , mostly I know that sports Betting depends a lot on our Knowledge, so it is not nice to leave everything in the hands of luck, I don't say anything if we go into a casino, and We can play Any type of Machine, be it slot machines, roulette, whatever we play, well yes, Everything is in the hands of the good luck that we could have at some point, for the rest I think that things Depend a lot on how it is played , how to bet , but in the Specific case of Sports bets I see it as similar to trading than Anything else , so in this Order of Ideas, it can be Said that yes, there may be some types of groups where some predictions about the sports games that have been associated, then if we can do something else, for example, enter a group where they give the results and have an efficiency of 90%, for me it is acceptable, because a 10%, well maybe 10% for me is It is acceptable to have losses, but winning 90% is enough for me, however it Should be Above Average.

When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.

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September 26, 2023, 02:15:45 PM
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When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.

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September 27, 2023, 10:55:18 AM
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I`m talking not only about analyze but about different ways of getting profit from sport betting. We can compare odds that different bookies give us on one event. Sometimes one bookie gives w1 odd 4(for example), and another bookie gives x2 odd 5. So we can get profit anyway if we bet both. But you can`t search online such mistakes manually. And there are other ways to get profit that need software.

So if we are talking only about prediction - we don`t need any software - just internet and lots of free time.

You are referring to arbitrage betting, and no, it's hard to win with that kind of betting if you don't have a decent amount of bankroll. Don't expect to get a difference of at least +100... maybe 1 to 5% is already a good difference that you can exploit. It does not have risk, but it's time-consuming if you don't have enough capital, so I suggest you fulfill that first if you want to try this. Of course, there's a system for doing it as manually can be more like a waste of time, and you won't be able to find the best arbitrage opportunities.
It is not only arbitrage betting. The bookie mistakes sometimes, they can mix up the teams and one bookie will give you high odd on the strong team. And the other can give big enough odd at draw or win of the weak team. In such situations you can get 50-200% of your bet as a profit. And it is really possible. I saw such matches myself few times without any software. The problem is that i find them accidentally and it may be one match per month. And the software can analyze all matches and find such matches regularly.

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September 27, 2023, 03:56:43 PM
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Sportsbetting definitely is much better than just casino, and if I may add, there's a statistics that College Football has the best sportsbetting winning chance, I have read an article although I can't find it but it definitely says College Football although no reason was given. Also it's much better for you to do sportsbetting on the selected sports if you really like playing the sports yourself and not just because you want to bet on it and that you've done extensive research on it.
I partly disagree with you. When playing in a casino, interaction occurs between the player (and other players in particular) and the casino (it doesn’t matter the gaming machine or the croupier). That is the player directly participates in the game process. When betting on sports, this does not happen because the player is an extra. Nothing depends on the player except choosing who to bet on; I do not consider the ability to analyze information (previous matches, game form, etc.).
You used “college football” as an example. I believe that the lower the level of professionalism, the higher the chance of match-fixing.
It was precisely this kind of fraud that the topicstarter implied with his question: direct deception, match-fixing. Cappers are evil.

Well, it is quite difficult to have a match fixed, just Remember the Enormous Fraud of FIFA in Those times where it was convenient for many Teams to win certain Teams because everything was already paid, it is something that can happen to anyone, because one does not know I imagine that at these heights and at these levels, things in the teams can be like that, and that this is in fútbol now with any amateur sport, I think that other things are easier to square, another example is the one that was produced in Colombia When Pablo Escobar and Many other bosses Existed , they bought the referees, and those who did not agree to buy them simply killed them, that was like that, it was either fulfilled or fulfilled, in fact in Pablo's series Escobar show it, in the bosses too, these types of things are what one says that the game was rigged for a long time, so what we have to do here is try to be involved in where the truth is, apart from our knowledge we have You have to be involved in female sources, because it is the only way to have a more accurate prediction.

Currently, it is as difficult as possible to have Rigged games, in the case of world football, for example in the World Cup qualifiers because I have not seen such corruption as Before, I don't know, but the only thing that can Leak this It is Through the referees and the referees are the Ones who can generate this type of cheating, I cannot rule out that sometimes it Seems as if they have Been sold, but the VAR is always something that can save that option and it is a more positive Point Towards the True, of course these things would be more Precise with the use of Technology because that is the only way that can generate a better way to Access a much Cleaner game at all Levels , the local Tournaments in some places are where the most can be generated these types of problems, but corruption is such a global Problem that it is very difficult to Unmask , those who try can even Lose their Lives.

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September 27, 2023, 03:59:22 PM
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I am in a couple "sports betting groups" but we don't pool our money together and make bets with all of our money combined. We simply use the group to bounce ideas off of one another, and discuss why we think certain games are better to bet on than others.

I know some people (close friends of mine) who bet in groups and all pool their money together.  I don't like this strategy at all.  I want to be in control of my own funds.

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September 27, 2023, 04:55:05 PM
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I am in a couple "sports betting groups" but we don't pool our money together and make bets with all of our money combined. We simply use the group to bounce ideas off of one another, and discuss why we think certain games are better to bet on than others.

I know some people (close friends of mine) who bet in groups and all pool their money together.  I don't like this strategy at all.  I want to be in control of my own funds.

Every sport today already has a forum of its own just like Bitcointalk. There are more discussions on major forums of the sports you like and they are more updated because fans are already checking athletes all the time. Each sport today must have at least 10 active forums that exist in which the users are also discussing their bets.

As much as I want to chat with sports bettors, I would want to see their profiles, and it's easier to track them on forums than on chat apps like Telegram.

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September 27, 2023, 06:16:17 PM
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It is not only arbitrage betting. The bookie mistakes sometimes, they can mix up the teams and one bookie will give you high odd on the strong team. And the other can give big enough odd at draw or win of the weak team. In such situations you can get 50-200% of your bet as a profit. And it is really possible. I saw such matches myself few times without any software. The problem is that i find them accidentally and it may be one match per month. And the software can analyze all matches and find such matches regularly.
Casinos are always trying to find those mistakes on the odds to avoid a scenario like that, so the window of opportunity that you have is not very wide to find it, however a computer software which could scrape all the odds from several different casinos can find this difference in seconds and notify you about it, and in fact there are many gamblers which coding skills which do this and are able to improve their odds of making money using this method.

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I think you can try it by joining the sports betting community. there might be a group there. but if they work together in gambling it does sound strange, but it could happen if this is a business for them maybe they should be able to work together well to get profits from the players. or even among the players is the dealer?

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September 28, 2023, 10:13:11 AM
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It is not only arbitrage betting. The bookie mistakes sometimes, they can mix up the teams and one bookie will give you high odd on the strong team. And the other can give big enough odd at draw or win of the weak team. In such situations you can get 50-200% of your bet as a profit. And it is really possible. I saw such matches myself few times without any software. The problem is that i find them accidentally and it may be one match per month. And the software can analyze all matches and find such matches regularly.
Casinos are always trying to find those mistakes on the odds to avoid a scenario like that, so the window of opportunity that you have is not very wide to find it, however a computer software which could scrape all the odds from several different casinos can find this difference in seconds and notify you about it, and in fact there are many gamblers which coding skills which do this and are able to improve their odds of making money using this method.
Yes, they try. But, as i said, i find several such matches without any software. It means that the program can find more such mistakes and faster. It is possible to develop software that will bet such matches. I`m not a programmer but i`m sure that it is not a problem. And even 2-3 such matches per week can give us nice profit.

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September 30, 2023, 05:43:07 PM
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When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.
Yes, things are like that, I personally have seen many things, many cases about how real this can be, it always happens to me that when I do certain things, because when there are groups that are free I can determine what things can be the best predictions, especially in the games that I know the most, well in the sports that I know the most, for example I love soccer, the UFC and Boxing, they are actually my** worst sports, also because they are the sports that I Practiced, and I think I know, that's why I like this guy from a group where they are free, I wouldn't give up for a group that is BVIP and they tell me that I have to put my bet on a team similar as in trading, where in trading they don't say or explain the reasons for this either, so for these things I have always said that the groups that are sports betting signals have to be good enough, for me to be able to stop doing something and have them show that it is true, apart from the fact that the failure rate for me must be in the order of 85% to be credible, I leave 15% to lose, that is, out of 100 bets at least 15 It is acceptable to lose for me as long as the others are correct.

Of course, this is a range that I have established for myself to be able to have control of my finances, if I am in a VIP group I have the right to demand, there is no other option, I believe it must be like that, I cannot say that there is one thing or another. That there really is a constant way to make money by betting, everything represents a risk yes, but if they are experts, owners of a group where they do get paid, then they have to be highly efficient in the results, otherwise, to me it makes no sense that sgioa betting there, maybe I'm very radical in that sense, but in a paid group , it has to be demanded, otherwise I would feel robbed because it is additional money that I have to take out to pay someone Else.

Edit: To edit where I put worse **"with my best sports", I wrote instead of better worse, but thanks to slapper.

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When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.
Yes, things are like that, I personally have seen many things, many cases about how real this can be, it always happens to me that when I do certain things, because when there are groups that are free I can determine what things can be the best predictions, especially in the games that I know the most, well in the sports that I know the most, for example I love soccer, the UFC and Boxing, they are actually my worst sports, also because they are the sports that I Practiced, and I think I know, that's why I like this guy from a group where they are free, I wouldn't give up for a group that is BVIP and they tell me that I have to put my bet on a team similar as in trading, where in trading they don't say or explain the reasons for this either, so for these things I have always said that the groups that are sports betting signals have to be good enough, for me to be able to stop doing something and have them show that it is true, apart from the fact that the failure rate for me must be in the order of 85% to be credible, I leave 15% to lose, that is, out of 100 bets at least 15 It is acceptable to lose for me as long as the others are correct.

Of course, this is a range that I have established for myself to be able to have control of my finances, if I am in a VIP group I have the right to demand, there is no other option, I believe it must be like that, I cannot say that there is one thing or another. That there really is a constant way to make money by betting, everything represents a risk yes, but if they are experts, owners of a group where they do get paid, then they have to be highly efficient in the results, otherwise, to me it makes no sense that sgioa betting there, maybe I'm very radical in that sense, but in a paid group , it has to be demanded, otherwise I would feel robbed because it is additional money that I have to take out to pay someone Else.

Like you're in a sports and betting whirlwind, right? You're into soccer, UFC, and boxing. You say they're your worst sports, yet you've practiced and know them. A tough spot, huh? You want that free group with the finest predictions. It's hard, I know.

What makes a solid sports betting signals group? A high success rate of 85% leaves a 15% loss margin. Having that range and financial management is a good approach. In VIP company? Right to demand success. Your money, bet, danger. Not delivering feels like a rip-off, right? You're navigating this betting game's hostile environment with your own rules. Keep holding them accountable, and good luck

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October 01, 2023, 05:43:14 AM
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It is not only arbitrage betting. The bookie mistakes sometimes, they can mix up the teams and one bookie will give you high odd on the strong team. And the other can give big enough odd at draw or win of the weak team. In such situations you can get 50-200% of your bet as a profit. And it is really possible. I saw such matches myself few times without any software. The problem is that i find them accidentally and it may be one match per month. And the software can analyze all matches and find such matches regularly.
Casinos are always trying to find those mistakes on the odds to avoid a scenario like that, so the window of opportunity that you have is not very wide to find it, however a computer software which could scrape all the odds from several different casinos can find this difference in seconds and notify you about it, and in fact there are many gamblers which coding skills which do this and are able to improve their odds of making money using this method.
Yes, they try. But, as i said, i find several such matches without any software. It means that the program can find more such mistakes and faster. It is possible to develop software that will bet such matches. I`m not a programmer but i`m sure that it is not a problem. And even 2-3 such matches per week can give us nice profit.

If you can generate that then yes it will be a nice profit to your side, though not as many gambler have that same patience and most are after with the quick benefits the very reason why they are aiming for sports betting group that may give them higher chance of winning percentage when betting.

More on quick outcome and not to consume time by studying the game and how things are working with the sport that they intended to
bet on, laziness most of the times is the forces that pushes those gamblers to rely with sports betting groups.

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October 01, 2023, 08:12:52 AM
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I think you can try it by joining the sports betting community. there might be a group there. but if they work together in gambling it does sound strange, but it could happen if this is a business for them maybe they should be able to work together well to get profits from the players.
Joining a sports betting community may be quite good because it can provide additional insight and can also increase experience in sports betting activities so that there will be more references or prediction evaluations that we can use, but too much trust in predictions in the sports community will never produce results which is satisfying.

It is clear that in a group there are several top people or the term admin who may have collaborated with several other people to sell the results of predictions that have been made and they may even provide false predictions which will actually make it difficult for members to win bets.
This will only be profitable business for them with income from selling predictions and of course gamblers who have more experience and knowledge will never use such predictions and prefer to use what they make no matter what the outcome will be.

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or even among the players is the dealer?
It seems not and perhaps there are members hired by the bookies rather than the bookies themselves who enter the group to mislead the members with false predictions.
Like shill accounts which only complicate things by sharing all kinds of lies to make a profit for the people who employ them.

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October 01, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
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When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.
Yes, things are like that, I personally have seen many things, many cases about how real this can be, it always happens to me that when I do certain things, because when there are groups that are free I can determine what things can be the best predictions, especially in the games that I know the most, well in the sports that I know the most, for example I love soccer, the UFC and Boxing, they are actually my worst sports, also because they are the sports that I Practiced, and I think I know, that's why I like this guy from a group where they are free, I wouldn't give up for a group that is BVIP and they tell me that I have to put my bet on a team similar as in trading, where in trading they don't say or explain the reasons for this either, so for these things I have always said that the groups that are sports betting signals have to be good enough, for me to be able to stop doing something and have them show that it is true, apart from the fact that the failure rate for me must be in the order of 85% to be credible, I leave 15% to lose, that is, out of 100 bets at least 15 It is acceptable to lose for me as long as the others are correct.

Of course, this is a range that I have established for myself to be able to have control of my finances, if I am in a VIP group I have the right to demand, there is no other option, I believe it must be like that, I cannot say that there is one thing or another. That there really is a constant way to make money by betting, everything represents a risk yes, but if they are experts, owners of a group where they do get paid, then they have to be highly efficient in the results, otherwise, to me it makes no sense that sgioa betting there, maybe I'm very radical in that sense, but in a paid group , it has to be demanded, otherwise I would feel robbed because it is additional money that I have to take out to pay someone Else.

Like you're in a sports and betting whirlwind, right? You're into soccer, UFC, and boxing. You say they're your worst sports, yet you've practiced and know them. A tough spot, huh? You want that free group with the finest predictions. It's hard, I know.

What makes a solid sports betting signals group? A high success rate of 85% leaves a 15% loss margin. Having that range and financial management is a good approach. In VIP company? Right to demand success. Your money, bet, danger. Not delivering feels like a rip-off, right? You're navigating this betting game's hostile environment with your own rules. Keep holding them accountable, and good luck

Thank you very much for posting the answer, in my previous post I put an edit thanks to you that they are my best sports and not the worst, lol, you can't be so masochistic in life, those are my sports, the ones that I have practiced Throughout my life, I really don't know what happened, maybe a mental lapse or something like that, but yes, you are right in saying what you said, but they are actually my best sports, what I say All of this is that when we are in a sport or in a certain group of sports, what we mostly have experience in is what we know the most, it has happened to me that whenever I enter a sports betting group in a way free, the sports that always give predictions are tennis, basketball, baseball where I have no idea what they are talking about, nor do I know which are the best teams, which have the star players, nor do I know what the capabilities of each one are of them, so it is difficult to do something well, first because in a group where they launch this type of predictions they are quite radical in terms of the things they say, they only give the prediction and that's it, there is no analysis there.

This is like blindly trusting the Criteria of that person who says, I don't know if he does it just to do it, because he has a lot or little time, if he does it for real because he likes it, or because a software shows it to him, the truth is. I don't understand well, and it happens in many of the groups, at least in the groups that are Spanish speaking, it's like that, I haven't been involved in an English speaking group, maybe if they give details and explain things, it's just that I do Say that it must be that the more they say what they should do for this or for a coincidence. or another, but they don't tell me or do the analysis, they don't even show the technical analysis, so it's better for me to go to trading view to see what other people think or the articles that are quite good , to know each person's criteria ,.

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October 03, 2023, 08:02:45 AM
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Yes, they try. But, as i said, i find several such matches without any software. It means that the program can find more such mistakes and faster. It is possible to develop software that will bet such matches. I`m not a programmer but i`m sure that it is not a problem. And even 2-3 such matches per week can give us nice profit.

If you can generate that then yes it will be a nice profit to your side, though not as many gambler have that same patience and most are after with the quick benefits the very reason why they are aiming for sports betting group that may give them higher chance of winning percentage when betting.

More on quick outcome and not to consume time by studying the game and how things are working with the sport that they intended to
bet on, laziness most of the times is the forces that pushes those gamblers to rely with sports betting groups.
I watched for several months how it works. The main problem is that you have to spend lots of time for searching information for analyze and searching matches that the bookie will open. The analyze is simple enough. So you can choose - to spend time for searching information and analyze, or to risk your money searching real group. I can`t say which way is better.

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