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June 27, 2023, 08:36:18 PM
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Recently I came across a query where I suggested that We cannot post in the "All English" language in a local board or it is not recommended at least.

Yes, i know that if the posts are a mixture of English & local language, then it is fine. Even if some posts are being done in pure English, they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?

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June 27, 2023, 08:42:25 PM
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Local board will have their own rules. I think India are posting in English. Some Nigerians too are posting in English. But there are some local boards that only local languages are allowed, depending on the local board rules.

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June 27, 2023, 08:46:23 PM
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It's fine i guess, there's no rules particular for that. I found several thread in my local posting in english thread previously, asking things they want/need that can only found in my local. Although there is google translate, but if you're not confident of doing just post it in english.

What is prohibited is posting non-english language post in only-english board. Local language post can only be posted on their respected locals.

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June 27, 2023, 08:55:05 PM
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If the local board allows it, then I see no harm in that. As per the Nigeria local board, English is also allowed on the local board since the general language, which is Nigerian Pidgin, is just a little different from English itself.
 
But a local board, to me, will be more interesting if the natives of the place can communicate in their respective languages; that's what makes it a local board, so that they themselves will be the ones who could possibly understand themselves better.

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June 27, 2023, 09:17:20 PM
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It solely depends on how the local board operates, because some might allow the use of English while other would prefer strict local language conversation and if you find yourself to be part of such local board it would be better to just join in flow of discussion with the preferred language selection to avoid being abstract from every other member. And more over its called a local board for a reason where you get to socialize with your own styles.

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June 27, 2023, 09:33:38 PM
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It solely depends on the nature of the language in the local board.

You can't post English in a local board like Chinese, Arabic, Greek or Hebrew. It all looks weird lol. But i have seen some languages like Nigerian language, most words are actually in English, so I think it's OK to post there in English. The same applies to the Indian or Pilipinas board.

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June 27, 2023, 10:44:46 PM
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For some reason mainly due to the language barrier - then using English to post on local boards wouldn't be a big deal.
They know you're not a native speaker of the local language they speak - so posting in English is fine. If you know any local user there - maybe you can ask him for help to translate what you want to say there in local language - it's better than using google translate.

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June 28, 2023, 12:58:06 AM
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In as much as the local board doesn't say "do not post in English language" any one is permitted to post with whichever they wishes on either your language or english is acceptable. I know in locals there are some people who aren't comfortable posting with their languages so they uses the one which they finds it interesting to post with, your main interest should be focused on whether the post is readable or not, meaningful and conveying the required information if not on topics then such post should be reported to the mod for immediate deletion.

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June 28, 2023, 01:17:30 AM
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I think in this Forum each boards have their own rules, if in your local board they don't permit English language then you have to respect that, and if in case you don't know how to blend in you might as well let them know that you're not too good with the language your being permitted to use, like in my local board we use pigin language and you can mix with English since not everyone is good at speaking it. All these is just a matter of communication.

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June 28, 2023, 04:20:21 AM
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It solely depends on the nature of the language in the local board.

You can't post English in a local board like Chinese, Arabic, Greek or Hebrew. It all looks weird lol. But i have seen some languages like Nigerian language, most words are actually in English, so I think it's OK to post there in English. The same applies to the Indian or Pilipinas board.

I want to draw your attention to the pattern of English spread across local boards. See, in the first four local boards you listed, English cannot be used. You wonder why. It's because English is not the official language in those countries. And in the second list of countries you listed (Nigeria, India, the Philippines. You could add Pakistan), English is the official language. That is why you can write in English in these local sections.

That is, the formula is simple: if English is the official language in the country, then you can write in English on this local board. Otherwise, no.
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June 28, 2023, 04:58:36 AM
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It solely depends on the nature of the language in the local board.

You can't post English in a local board like Chinese, Arabic, Greek or Hebrew. It all looks weird lol. But i have seen some languages like Nigerian language, most words are actually in English, so I think it's OK to post there in English. The same applies to the Indian or Pilipinas board.
I think if we need help for something solid, not spam, not troll, not scam, we can make an English post in a local board to ask their opinions, guides ... but it is best if we do it as bilingual way.

The post should be
- In English, with original content.
- In that local language, with a translation from Google or any translation tool. A poster must note that part is taken from a translation tool.

Why do we need bilingual?
- Locals might not understand English, so the translation is needed.
- The translation might not express all and correct meaning of the original content so we need to have the English (original) version. Locals who can understand English will better communicate with us.

If we can do it in global (English) board, it is better.

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June 28, 2023, 05:53:11 AM
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- In that local language, with a translation from Google or any translation tool.
That's not allowed:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

My take: I try to avoid posting on local boards, but I've done it a few times (usually after being mentioned there). Sometimes I post only a link that answers a question, sometimes in English with the comment that I'll delete it soon, hopefully after someone translated it for me. So far, I haven't been banned for it Cheesy

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June 28, 2023, 08:21:21 AM
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but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?
this will entirely depend on the local board's rule. anyway, I don't know about other local boards, but in the Pilipinas board, users can create threads or reply to someone using English. I guess the fact that English is our second language is probably the reason why it is allowed(not really sure if it is the reason).

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My take: I try to avoid posting on local boards, but I've done it a few times (usually after being mentioned there). Sometimes I post only a link that answers a question, sometimes in English with the comment that I'll delete it soon, hopefully after someone translated it for me. So far, I haven't been banned for it Cheesy

I think this is also perfectly okay. In your case, it is also a special case - if u can call it that.

Through your services like your weekly updates about the trustlists, D1 + D2 member and your merit data analysis you are omnipresent... atleast for the german local area.
If there are any issues or questions, I've been quite happy that u have commented briefly and to the point by urself.
These updates are very much appreciated and therefore can be overlooked. Besides that other users are always helpful - if necessary - to translate ur texts (which are already really limited to the essentials).

Therefore I would say that this should not be a problem and you should be safe from a ban! Cheesy

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As far as I know, in Bahasa Indonesia (for Indonesian) there is no rule that prohibit anyone to post in English - or at least not written in the general rules here. However, in my few years reading and observing the Indonesian Local section, I haven't sees any thread that are using full English, I mean most of the people write there because they don't need the extra effort writing in foreign language, so there is no point writing an English post there.

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June 28, 2023, 09:35:03 AM
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- In that local language, with a translation from Google or any translation tool.
That's not allowed:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
I meant it will be used together with the original English content. Is it allowed, I guess yes and my post above is for short questions to locals only. In this context, the automated translation is not for posting quota, it is just to have better communication with locals.

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My take: I try to avoid posting on local boards, but I've done it a few times (usually after being mentioned there). Sometimes I post only a link that answers a question, sometimes in English with the comment that I'll delete it soon, hopefully after someone translated it for me.
Me too. Don't do this is the best.

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You will be in future  Cheesy

This man did the opposite, using a local language in English board (Bitcoin discussion). Did not know where he is posting in  Cheesy
My people, nothing we no go see for we country oh.
Everyday na new episode of drama, CBN don Yan say, as part of their new due diligence regulations to financial institutions in 2023 under it regulatory purview, as against anti-money laundering, counter terrorism financing etc.
Say them dey direct all Banks to include customer's social media handle as part of the customers KYC( KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER) requirements.

The stress 😬  way Banks dey give customers don dey too much, any small thing we you wan regularise for your Bank, them go tell you to bring, NEPA BILL, DRIVING LICENCE, NIN , HOUSE RENT RECEIPT,  BVN,TWO PASSPORT SIGN TWO TIMES, now they've added social media handle to the endless list. When ordinarily a single NIN can easily identify a customer.

That's why i also enlighten people about bitcoin and crypto currency, BABA, all this bulaba and balablue is never needed, i just need your wallet ID to make any transactions with you.

Anybody that wants to fight terrorism can do that easily, because government has all it takes to a locate criminals anywhere in world, besides most of the acclaimed terrorist are not on social media.
My people how Una see this leg way CBN dey bring come?
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June 28, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
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- In that local language, with a translation from Google or any translation tool.
That's not allowed:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
I meant it will be used together with the original English content. Is it allowed, I guess yes and my post above is for short questions to locals only. In this context, the automated translation is not for posting quota, it is just to have better communication with locals.
I recently reported an English post on the Dutch board, and my report was marked as Bad. So it looks like "questions to locals" or (in the case of this post I reported) trying to trade locally is allowed for English speakers. My guess now is that is this rule was only created to prevent large-scale "ANN spam" by low-effort translating it into every possible possible language that has a local board.

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Last edit: June 28, 2023, 09:55:56 AM by tranthidung
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I recently reported an English post on the Dutch board, and my report was marked as Bad. So it looks like "questions to locals" or (in the case of this post I reported) trying to trade locally is allowed for English speakers. My guess now is that is this rule was created to prevent "ANN spam" by low-effort translating it into every possible possible language that has a local board.
I guess so too.

I recalled I read some posts from fillippone that he did something similar in the past and he wrote it clearly in his thread. He did it to communicate with some local translators (for his threads) if my memory is good. He is well so far which leads me to the conclusion above.

Rules are flexible and if forum members do good things, moderators will not ban them  Cheesy
23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.[e]

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If I am not wrong, you will have to check rules of your local section which you are willing to post in. I am sure if you want to access a local section of your country, you know how to write in that language so there shouldn't be a problem. And if you want to make posts in someone else's country board, I think you should avoid doing that. Good Luck!
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they are ok but if a person has a post history where he only insists to speak in English on a local board, what do the rules of bitcointalk say in this regard?
What is that local board? For example, it is almost possible to use the English language in the Indian board. Otherwise, you can report it to mod and those posts will be deleted. If the account continues to post, it will be banned for a period of 7 days, 14 days, a month and Permanent.
Why does that user insist on posting in that local board? Is it because of merits or something else? If you include the account link, she/he may get negative trust.

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