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April 09, 2011, 03:07:04 AM
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I hope one day to pay someone to make a really simple program that can sit in the Bitcoin directory, only READ the blocks, and create a really simple interface for seeing all the lottery accounts,  all entries, and a simple interface to enter the random numbers and find the winner....one day.

I'd be interested in making that program for you, no charge.
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April 09, 2011, 03:31:09 AM
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I hope one day to pay someone to make a really simple program that can sit in the Bitcoin directory, only READ the blocks, and create a really simple interface for seeing all the lottery accounts,  all entries, and a simple interface to enter the random numbers and find the winner....one day.

I'd be interested in making that program for you, no charge.

That would be FREAKIN AWESOME! I'll have to pay you some BTC that I have in my name though!

Since you mentioned it I'll share a thought I was thinking:
-the program would be able to verify an official account since it would have a deposit from an older account, having some type of visual cue showing that the account is official would be useful -with the little program the user would be able to quickly see that an account is indeed official and not from someone's fake scam site - just in case someone creates a fake site etc....

THANK YOU!!


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April 09, 2011, 03:34:05 AM
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I hope one day to pay someone to make a really simple program that can sit in the Bitcoin directory, only READ the blocks, and create a really simple interface for seeing all the lottery accounts,  all entries, and a simple interface to enter the random numbers and find the winner....one day.

I'd be interested in making that program for you, no charge.

That would be FREAKIN AWESOME! I'll have to pay you some BTC that I have in my name though!

Since you mentioned it I'll share a thought I was thinking:
-the program would be able to verify an official account since it would have a deposit from an older account, having some type of visual cue showing that the account is official would be useful -with the little program the user would be able to quickly see that an account is indeed official and not from someone's fake scam site - just in case someone creates a fake site etc....

THANK YOU!!



If you could write up a specification of how everything should work and what features it should have that would be great. The more descriptive you are the more I can focus on just the programming.
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April 09, 2011, 04:56:09 AM
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I hope one day to pay someone to make a really simple program that can sit in the Bitcoin directory, only READ the blocks, and create a really simple interface for seeing all the lottery accounts,  all entries, and a simple interface to enter the random numbers and find the winner....one day.

I'd be interested in making that program for you, no charge.

That would be FREAKIN AWESOME! I'll have to pay you some BTC that I have in my name though!

Since you mentioned it I'll share a thought I was thinking:
-the program would be able to verify an official account since it would have a deposit from an older account, having some type of visual cue showing that the account is official would be useful -with the little program the user would be able to quickly see that an account is indeed official and not from someone's fake scam site - just in case someone creates a fake site etc....

THANK YOU!!



If you could write up a specification of how everything should work and what features it should have that would be great. The more descriptive you are the more I can focus on just the programming.

Deal. I'll think about it and reply tomorrow

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April 09, 2011, 12:43:05 PM
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If you could write up a specification of how everything should work and what features it should have that would be great. The more descriptive you are the more I can focus on just the programming.

I think for people to trust it with their Bitcoin stuff it would probably be wise to be open source. Since all the information is in blocks there is no need to access their accounts/wallet.
The interface would be pretty simple. One button "Block Location" would open an Open dialogue to pick the folder where the block data is. (The user may copy just the block data to another folder for reading) Then a "Draw Numbers" button. Here you can enter up to but not always 6 numbers. Could be five. Anything over 16 would get reduced as per website.

Then right underneath would be a drop down address bar kind of like a web browser with an "Add" button beside it. (Opens dialogue to enter/paste address) And a "Remove" button.  Left of the address bar would be "BitLotto account:"

If by following the addresses deposit history it traces back to 18dts6fXXA7jVKfYMBpsFqx7iZCELCfDpk you know it's a legitimate official account. And then "Official" would show up a little to the right of the address.

Underneath the address bar is a window with a scrollable grid. Three columns. One labeled "Hash" for transaction hash. Another for "Converted Pick" (Just displaying the hash turned into numbers), and then "Sender". This would show all people who sent in BTC. (The first two transactions can be ignored because they are me moving BTC coin around to make the account official.) If the account is over then at the bottom below the grid will be the winner listed with "Winner" displayed. (It will be first big payout transaction)

Now the user can pick accounts from the drop down address bar and see all entries. If there is a winner it will show. And if the user enters some numbers, the software finds the winner and or winners. It will work even if there already is a winner as the user may want to verify the results!

Hopefully I described it good..

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April 09, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
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So, bitlotto.com is down?

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April 09, 2011, 09:38:42 PM
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So, bitlotto.com is down?

Up for me.

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April 09, 2011, 09:44:56 PM
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Yeah, just noticed that it was down a few minutes ago. Seems to be back up now.
I also send a coin their way. Is there a way to see the current number of players for the upcoming draw?

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April 09, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
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Check the balance :
http://blockexplorer.com/address/18dts6fXXA7jVKfYMBpsFqx7iZCELCfDpk

20 BTC : 20 players.
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April 10, 2011, 04:34:24 AM
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Why rely on the Canadian lottery, instead of using some form of cryptographic commitment scheme? Before the round begins choose a random string (a combination of a PRNG with some human-generated entropy will work well) and hash it. Keep it secret, but post a hash of that publicly. When round ends, publish the original hash and use it to find the winner.
All lotteries COULD use computers to get a random number. TRUE randomness is barely understood by many and hard to do and prove without people having doubts how it works. They may think your faking the number or manipulating it. That's why lotteries use balls bouncing in a big drum and balls fall out. Everyone understands it. You don't have to explain that it's not rigged. They see it. Your idea may work for the technical crowd but to be a really successful lottery the part were the winner is picked has to be simple and understood.
It looks like you are under the impression that this suggestion requires you to be trusted. Under some assumptions it does not, and if those assumptions are invalid the method can easily be fixed.

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April 10, 2011, 04:38:48 AM
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Why rely on the Canadian lottery, instead of using some form of cryptographic commitment scheme? Before the round begins choose a random string (a combination of a PRNG with some human-generated entropy will work well) and hash it. Keep it secret, but post a hash of that publicly. When round ends, publish the original hash and use it to find the winner.
All lotteries COULD use computers to get a random number. TRUE randomness is barely understood by many and hard to do and prove without people having doubts how it works. They may think your faking the number or manipulating it. That's why lotteries use balls bouncing in a big drum and balls fall out. Everyone understands it. You don't have to explain that it's not rigged. They see it. Your idea may work for the technical crowd but to be a really successful lottery the part were the winner is picked has to be simple and understood.
It looks like you are under the impression that this suggestion requires you to be trusted. Under some assumptions it does not, and if those assumptions are invalid the method can easily be fixed.
See my other thread about BitLotto. I'm working on getting random numbers from the Bitcoin network. I was wrong. Using computers and Bitcoin for the numbers is better than using balls. It's a whole new Lottery and should use the technology available.

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April 12, 2011, 03:53:22 AM
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If it keeps up BitLotto is on track to being about 100 BTC with a 1 out of 100 chance of winning!

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April 12, 2011, 07:00:53 AM
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I think this is fine. People can see the 6/49 draw live from anywhere in the world. The results are published across all the web -all the news.

It's a good way to get draw numbers with no way to argue interference.

I'm in for the next 4 draws.

My fingers are crossed!

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April 12, 2011, 01:37:59 PM
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I think this is fine. People can see the 6/49 draw live from anywhere in the world. The results are published across all the web -all the news.

It's a good way to get draw numbers with no way to argue interference.

I'm in for the next 4 draws.

My fingers are crossed!

Check:
http://bitlotto.com/new.html

It's quite dependable, as to cheat you would essentially have to be able the break the hashes. If that was possible Bitcoin would be in trouble not just BitLotto. This new way is a little more 'international' and quite fitting for Bitcoin I think.

GOOD LUCK! I kind of wish I could enter myself! Would be nice to win 100 BTC. (I won't because if I won, no matter how hard to cheat the system someone would still think I did)

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April 20, 2011, 03:33:57 AM
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BitLotto just reached a jackpot of 75 BTC. I'm predicting a jackpot of 120 BTC for the May 4th draw. Good Luck all those who entered!

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April 30, 2011, 05:52:13 AM
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[M]y website should now be up at bitlotto.com.

bitlotto.com doesn't seem to have an A record, and www.bitlotto.com give an NXDOMAIN.  SOA record is dated 2011042901.  Did something change?

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April 30, 2011, 06:08:18 AM
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[M]y website should now be up at bitlotto.com.

bitlotto.com doesn't seem to have an A record, and www.bitlotto.com give an NXDOMAIN.  SOA record is dated 2011042901.  Did something change?

Cheers,
Ya, me goofing up trying to switch hosts...

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