Gospel Preachers: Is Bitcoin the Last Currency in the World?

[Faisal2202]

As for technology it is actually filled with technology. From the message of the savior that is said to be received by everyone around the globe in "what they hold in the palm of their hands" (sounds a lot like smart phones to me) to the advise to preparing whatever military technology you can in Al-Anfal:60 to description of what sounds a lot like fighter jet (flying above clouds) carrying bunker busting missiles (breaking strongholds and the mountains in half).
Not to mention that سیف in Arabic and in these contexts isn't the literal definition of "sword".

In any case, linking these things to bitcoin sounds very silly.

Thanks for the correction dear, as i mentioned i am not an expert and I even asked another scholar about it but made a mistake while writing the name. But the idea of no technology at the end of the world was shared by the scholar to which I also not agreed 100% because this was just an assumption from the symbolic words which becomes a problem among different peoples.

Because one takes the meaning of one word as like "X" and the other takes the meaning of the word as "Y". And I think this is what happens here now. But this conversation is going to take a long I think because I will share your reply with him and then let's see what he has to say and in this i will get to learn about it too.

And you are totally right about linking BTC to religion but I think it is fair to some extent like once I was stuck in deciding either BTC is Haram or Halal because whenever I started something new I always prefer to ask some scholar and the scholar always told me it is haram then I tried to search it on my own and I came to a point that different activities like staking, gambling, and fixed APY, etc. are haram in Islam but the point was at that time many also said the topic is not related to BTC because BTC and religion have nothing relatable but I think that's not true.

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[coin-investor]

I think you mean the Revelation 13:16-18 which states that no one can buy and sell without the mark of the beast. It’s not a currency but something that was implant or tattoo to people in able to make a transaction. While the world will have a single currency to transact.

OP did not include this on his thread but those two sects of religion do not have a full understanding of Cryptocurrency, they just concluded and preached that Bitcoin is the one being mentioned, but it's unlikely that it is because no government is controlling Bitcoin it used to be a computer chip or ATM in the past, but now with the growing popularity of Bitcoin they connect it to that verse in the Bible, this is one of the things that hinders the development of Bitcoin.
If this is true that some sects of religion are doing this then we should call them out to enlighten them about Bitcoin and ask them to explain why they have to connect to Bitcoin that bible verse.
 

[Issa56]

I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

Am not a Christian and i know nothing about the bible so i don't know if what you said is true or not, but if its true i don't know maybe it refers to bitcoin, because even the creator of bitcoin didn't create it to be the only currency, he created it to be a alternative currency, and with the way things are going, am very sure it will be difficult for bitcoin to be the only currency. Am sure with time government wont have choice than to adopt bitcoin but i don't think bitcoin will be allowed to be the only currency, the government will do everything to stop that from happening. The only thing we are even fighting for currently is for government to accept bitcoin so that it will be used as alternative currency and not the only currency.

[Spaceman1000$]

Well, I've gone through the Bible myself, i don't think there is any portion that describes your elutriation, the only thing that is close to what your saying is the Mark of the beast, which talks about the coming of the antichrist.
Hence bitcoin is far from what you're saying or even imagining. The Bible is explicit in its explanations and it's adviced you apply wisdom while reading the Holy scriptures because wisdom is profitable to direct.

So in answering your question, bitcoin is not the last currency in the world.

[Blitzboy]

As for technology it is actually filled with technology. From the message of the savior that is said to be received by everyone around the globe in "what they hold in the palm of their hands" (sounds a lot like smart phones to me) to the advise to preparing whatever military technology you can in Al-Anfal:60 to description of what sounds a lot like fighter jet (flying above clouds) carrying bunker busting missiles (breaking strongholds and the mountains in half).
Not to mention that سیف in Arabic and in these contexts isn't the literal definition of "sword".

In any case, linking these things to bitcoin sounds very silly.

Thanks for the correction dear, as i mentioned i am not an expert and I even asked another scholar about it but made a mistake while writing the name. But the idea of no technology at the end of the world was shared by the scholar to which I also not agreed 100% because this was just an assumption from the symbolic words which becomes a problem among different peoples.

Because one takes the meaning of one word as like "X" and the other takes the meaning of the word as "Y". And I think this is what happens here now. But this conversation is going to take a long I think because I will share your reply with him and then let's see what he has to say and in this i will get to learn about it too.

And you are totally right about linking BTC to religion but I think it is fair to some extent like once I was stuck in deciding either BTC is Haram or Halal because whenever I started something new I always prefer to ask some scholar and the scholar always told me it is haram then I tried to search it on my own and I came to a point that different activities like staking, gambling, and fixed APY, etc. are haram in Islam but the point was at that time many also said the topic is not related to BTC because BTC and religion have nothing relatable but I think that's not true.

Symbols, my friends, speak a different language to everyone, weaving a tapestry of diverse views. Bitcoin, too, exists in this interpretative kaleidoscope, especially when viewed through a religious lens. Passing a definitive "Halal" or "Haram" verdict on Bitcoin? Not so fast. The blockchain, its backbone, holds untapped potential that transcends the norm. A beacon of change for global finance, it promises transparency, efficiency, inclusion.

But Bitcoin's dark ties with activities deemed "Haram" in Islam, like gambling, needs reframing. View it as a transactional tool or value reserve, not a speculative plaything. Drawing connections between Bitcoin's core tenets and religious context is intriguing. Yet, we must differentiate Bitcoin from its use-cases. This, I believe, will foster fruitful discourse with the scholar you mentioned.

[Faisal2202]

Symbols, my friends, speak a different language to everyone, weaving a tapestry of diverse views. Bitcoin, too, exists in this interpretative kaleidoscope, especially when viewed through a religious lens. Passing a definitive "Halal" or "Haram" verdict on Bitcoin? Not so fast. The blockchain, its backbone, holds untapped potential that transcends the norm. A beacon of change for global finance, it promises transparency, efficiency, inclusion.

But Bitcoin's dark ties with activities deemed "Haram" in Islam, like gambling, needs reframing. View it as a transactional tool or value reserve, not a speculative plaything. Drawing connections between Bitcoin's core tenets and religious context is intriguing. Yet, we must differentiate Bitcoin from its use-cases. This, I believe, will foster fruitful discourse with the scholar you mentioned.

Exactly, that's what I have tried to explain, BTC is just a current like any other current and the factor that will declare it halal and haram is it's usage. Like how we are using our money (BTC).

If we are using it in bad things which are prohibited by Islam then we should not use our money in those prohibited things too. But I think your intentions were to reply on my last statement which indicated that BTC and Religious points are of great importance while you just gave the simplest explanation.

But the point is, in Islam a current must have 4 factors in it and BTC hold all three but one is absent, which is the currency must not be volatile but BTC is and if we look any other currency like Us dollars and any national currency that is also volatile and we as Muslims are using it because one of the factor is if currency is being adopted by huge amount of people then it became halal and fair to use.

I hope you understand my point here.

[Frankolala]

are only assuming it from your own understand. Bitcoin is something good that is transparent and don't allow its users to be oppressed by government and the banks. Therefore,bitcoin can never be used as the currency of the apocalypse.

Only one currency will be forced on the people to use and anyone without the mark of the beast wouldn't be allow to use that currency. Bitcoin is open to everyone and it gives privacy too. No one can know who own a bitcoin if you store it in your private wallet,bitcoin will never be the only currency to exist in future because the government rules the world and every country has their own currency that was designed by their government.

[GeorgeJohn]

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

Theirs some certain things that we know that can not come into existence because we know that Bitcoin is new currency that's not up to thirty years for it existence and other currencies has come to board before Bitcoin but they could not stand so i know that fiat currency will remain the captain of other currencies, from my understanding concerning Bitcoin I have not think of Bitcoin of dominating other currencies because it's a technology and a higher technology can come up today and pick up and dominate bitcoin technology, so for now fiat currency still number one.

[The Cryptovator]

In order to navigate the complexities of the world, the presence of control is essential. A natural system emerges where someone or something takes charge of various aspects, ensuring stability and order. Consider the role of government in our lives; without its governance, numerous issues would arise, as people would have unrestrained freedom. This demonstrates the necessity of control.

Bitcoin, as a decentralized cryptocurrency, challenges this established pattern. It operates outside the control of any single entity. While this offers advantages, such as increased transparency and autonomy, it also presents limitations. The absence of centralized authority prevents Bitcoin from becoming the sole global currency. Existing power structures are resistant to such a shift, as it would disrupt their control over the currency and economy.

Nonetheless, Bitcoin may eventually achieve widespread usage on a global scale. However, fiat currencies will continue to coexist. Governments will strive to maintain control over their respective currencies and economic systems. This ensures stability and facilitates effective governance in the face of evolving financial landscapes.

[Victorik]

Bitcoin is not planning to replace the current fiat system, but I think it is an alternative.
So the idea that Bitcoin might become the world one currency doesn't look feasible.

[serjent05]

I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

Are you talking about the time when the evil dominates the world that without the mark of the beast you won't get anything not even the right to buy food?  It looks like your memory betrays you.  There is no such thing mentioned in the bible that Bitcoin will be that currency.  and there is not even a mention about the currency in this verse: Rev. 17-18.

[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. [18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

It is all about the mark of the beast and not about what currency to use.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

Again I do not think that the thing you are stating is all about one currency but rather it is all about the mark of the beast.  I also agree that Bitcoin won't be the last currency of the world let alone to be the sole official currency of a nation.

[romero121]

The purpose behind bitcoin is to fulfil the common people's need as the centralized fiat have failed to do it. Over time we will come across more technology as well as new invention that are superior to the one that is already in usage. I'm not a biblical scholar, based on few of the response it looks like the Bible verse had indicated something else and not the currency.

Even if the currency is the mentioned one, I don't think world will get unified under bitcoin and all other currencies go unused. Everything is all about choice, people look for choice and bitcoin is one amongst. As people are getting much adopted to the technology we consider bitcoin as the thing whenever some discussion arises related to bitcoin.

[yazher]

I don't know if there is some bitcoins prophecy in the bible, but all I know is wealth is just a trail in this world, and bitcoins are no exception; if you cannot use it for good, it will end up against you because it won't be blessed at all, just like these crypto scammers who are using bitcoins as their props to fool people with their money instead of making the best of it as financial freedom. Most likely, there will be more currency in the future and bitcoins are just the start of it, like a domino effect because paper money is not really good because it could be easily fake, and people will continue to improve it as the years pass.

[Firlis]

I have been planning to create this thread for more than three months but today I decided to drop the thread.
When I was a little child, Missionaries like Jehovah Witness Brethren and other Pentecostal Church preachers who was preaching the Holy Bible says, time will come in the whole world that everyone will use ONE CURRENCY and anyone who refused to use that currency can not buy things in any store. And the way BITCOIN is, it is accepting by the whole world. And Bitcoin is growing step by step.

I don't know in the last step of Bitcoin everyone will only use it and no any other currency will exist again. So I like to hear from some Biblical Scholars in the forum to tell me more on this topic. This thing that I said is inside the Holy Bible but I can't recall the scripture but it is in the book of "Revelation".

I think you mean the Revelation 13:16-18 which states that no one can buy and sell without the mark of the beast. It’s not a currency but something that was implant or tattoo to people in able to make a transaction. While the world will have a single currency to transact.




I doubt that this is Bitcoin since it's decentralized while the currency being mention in the Bible shows a centralization since there's someone controlling the people to use it. I think it will be the currency of the super power nation in case world war 3 happened or CBDC since this starting to be implemented globally.

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I personally think that a currency will emerge and become a global currency！

[m2017]

In order to navigate the complexities of the world, the presence of control is essential. A natural system emerges where someone or something takes charge of various aspects, ensuring stability and order. Consider the role of government in our lives; without its governance, numerous issues would arise, as people would have unrestrained freedom. This demonstrates the necessity of control.

Bitcoin, as a decentralized cryptocurrency, challenges this established pattern. It operates outside the control of any single entity. While this offers advantages, such as increased transparency and autonomy, it also presents limitations. The absence of centralized authority prevents Bitcoin from becoming the sole global currency. Existing power structures are resistant to such a shift, as it would disrupt their control over the currency and economy.

Nonetheless, Bitcoin may eventually achieve widespread usage on a global scale. However, fiat currencies will continue to coexist. Governments will strive to maintain control over their respective currencies and economic systems. This ensures stability and facilitates effective governance in the face of evolving financial landscapes.

Bitcoin may indeed become widespread in the world, but for sure it will not be the last currency in the world. I doubt that BTC will retain a currency function at all in the future, because I assume that it will further transform into an investment vehicle along with classic technology stocks. Which, in principle, has already partly happened.

Also, there are doubts that there will ever be only one currency in the world. There are many countries in the world, each of which has its own government with its own views and interests. Each of which wants to print their own money, and the inflation tax will be the beneficiary of this process. This and a number of other reasons will push them not to abandon local currencies, which in turn creates a confrontation towards the creation of a single and final currency.

In short, I don't expect the emergence of a single last currency in the world and don't expect bitcoin in this position, even if it could happen. But the nuance is that no one knows the future.

[BenCodie]

A good world should have freedom.

We don't need a centralized power in Bitcoin blockchain as the only mean for transaction, trading, wealth storage and like we can not live without Bitcoin blockchain and bitcoin. Like we don't want to be forced to use only the US. dollar or any fiat currency.

Choices, we need choices and Bitcoin can not eliminate all choices globally. We will still have fiat currencies, soon CBDCs and altcoins, together with gold, other metals, and other things can be used as currencies, commodities etc.

Such world with only Bitcoin exists in memes and no where else.

You are right...but the thing is that Bitcoin might naturally become the single currency that is widely accepted - while altcoins are the "alternative means" or provide alternative use-cases.

Memes are thought viruses that can very easily turn into manifestations. While a world thriving on Bitcoin and altcoins might seem like a meme to you, it is very realistic in the future.

Why? Think about it...the US, Europe, Oceania, Russia, China and other countries are never going to politically concede to each other and mutually use the same currency. Bitcoin on the other hand is permission less, does not belong to a single society and therefore, is very realistically a denominated currency for all of these countries. Then, they compete for its ownership rather than crush it and accept that no one can take power or ownership of it.

Of course, theories are theories, and my theory is no stronger than anyone else's...I can't help but feel that it is at least possible for this theory to ring true in the future though.

[Crypt0Gore]

You might not agree to my own way of thinking things through but I believe that everything I am about to say are not wrong...

We have wars because of religions, and it's the fastest way to controlling the audience, that's why the culture of every countries are better if we go deep into the differences, I will like to use my country as an example if you aren't a Muslim here you are a total alien, you are the one that the devils will reject and even the heavens won't accept, those Muslims make it look so.

The Christians are also doing the same thing, like you are unloved if you are not a Christian, and the hate between these two sparks a lot of civil wars and it affects the great grand children too, so my answer to OPs is that anything that has something to do with money through religion I don't believe in it.

Some people are claimed to be prophet of God and great seers on Youtube are calling coins like Shiba inu the ultimate and last currency for humanity and that those who buy Shiba in 2022 will become the millionaires of tomorrow, like this is so disgusting.

There are now too many fake Gospel preachers in the world today, I have read my Bible and hardly have I seen one that walk in the ways of Jesus Christ, they appear to do so but they aren't.