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July 01, 2023, 08:28:18 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?


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July 01, 2023, 08:37:19 PM
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I believe for most online casinos which are not strict with their kyc requirements, some underage may have been playing.
But they know the risks as most casinos stated on their ToS about such age restriction, and they will be screwed once the site starts asking their credentials.
But definitely, I think some underage kids are playing in online casinos. Especially now that access to them is quite easy.
Maybe, someone can take legal action on the site, however, I think, you will just waste a lot of your resources to push thru such case,
in which, the better thing to do is just talk to the kid about repercussions when he decide to go into gambling spree.
Quite hard to go after the casino as you need a very motivating case to go thru all the troubles of filing a lawsuit to them.
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July 01, 2023, 08:39:52 PM
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Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?


I can tell if really gambling site honour or doesn't honour the age limits that are stipulated by various countries but I am sure that it will be within their regulatory compliance to obey the age limit statutes and most centralized casinos have this page where you include your date of birth at the point of registration and as a primary KYC requirement where email and full name are asked.


So that should cover for the age limits,  note that most casinos have their date of birth information inevitable and this is to prevent underage gambling

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July 01, 2023, 08:44:05 PM
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For the US the restricted age is 21 in a casino.  I think the scratch off or instant lottery rules are 18.  But every casino or sportsbook I've seen in the US both atlantic city and Las Vegas is 21.  Why what's the question or what's the issue?  In tons of cases kids under 21 have gotten into those casinos, but it's the quiet ones that go through.

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July 01, 2023, 08:52:41 PM
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Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
There may not be any legal actions to be taken because most people who gambles today that are under age may likely take or steal the documents of their neighbors or friends possibly their parents documents to pass a stage 2 kyc verification.
I think they have to implement a tougher and stringent way of identification to avoid cheat during kyc verification and to make sure bettors are up to the required age limits to gamble.

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July 01, 2023, 08:53:41 PM
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You should know that in some countries, the age to gamble on land based casinos can be different from the age to gamble on online casinos. Some countries may not have well established legal age for online gambling, but the gambling site will set the age of the offline gambling site like 21 years which is common in US.

On the terms of service of each gambling sites, you will see the legal age that is there, I have noticed 18 years to be the most common. If regulators wants to fight underage gambling, they should first look towards that. But most countries legal age to gamble is 18 years. 18 years is the legal age in most countries in Europe, Africa and Asia that allow gambling.

If a gambling site is in US, like Stake.us, the legal age in their terms of service is 21 years which is what that is most common in states in United States. But gambling sites that are international that we are using, put the legal gambling age to be 18 years because most countries legal gambling age across the world is 18 years.

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July 01, 2023, 08:55:26 PM
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In the past we had decentralised gambling platforms in which people of any age can spend their money gambling. Nowadays those aren't available anymore and everyone signing up is required to fulfill KYC. Through this the underaged ones can be restricted from using the platforms. Even this is being bypassed with the verification details of parents or closer ones who are at the legal age to gamble. Underaged people gambling have brought big wins and there are examples of winner handling it in a mature manner. Same time there are people who end their lives after big losses.

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July 01, 2023, 08:58:27 PM
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Online casinos also have this rules when it comes to the minimum age and if someone tries to cheat with their age, then you cannot just sue the site since you agree with their terms in the first place and you might be the one get sued after all. Online casinos without KYC are the one who are more prone for underage gamblers, this might be the downside of having no KYC at all, but then again if you get caught expect that the site will do necessary action against your account. In my country 18 years old is the legal age to gamble, to young for that.

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July 01, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
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Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

What if the parents intentionally force their children to gamble and then sue the site? I don't think legal action can take place.
There are site who are strictly following the legal age requirements, and some site are not since they don't have KYC.
There's a lot of young people getting involve into gambling which I think is not ok at all, and I hope most of the site will be more strict with this since those young gamblers are more prone to addiction as they can't still control their emotion.
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July 01, 2023, 09:02:55 PM
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Many online casinos and physical ones do not enforce the age restrictions until the user wins big at which point they talk about the regulatory rules and use it as a reason to not payout.

Only really honest platforms will stop underage gamblers from playing if they can identify them but majority would not bother to check.

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July 01, 2023, 09:06:51 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?



Judging by the age range, gambling is equated to alcohol almost everywhere  Grin

As for violations and liability for them, of course, it occurs if the gambling site is within the legal reach of the one who decides to punish it. But as we know, such murky enterprises skillfully hide.

By the way, how does opening loot boxes in CS:GO differ from gambling? I don't see any fundamental differences. And here any minor can participate in this game of chance.

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July 01, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
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As far as I have observed, most online casinos do not allow underage gambling. (In most countries of the world, you must be at least 18 years old). This is usually stated on the front page and during the registration process, when you have to confirm that you agree to the terms of use of the service. As for the specific regulations for individual countries, most casinos have a clause in the terms that each player has the responsibility to familiarize himself with the local laws and that he is obliged to act accordingly. This means that the responsibility falls on the individual, and you cannot sue them for breaking the law unless they did it knowingly.

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July 01, 2023, 09:14:37 PM
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In the past we had decentralised gambling platforms in which people of any age can spend their money gambling. Nowadays those aren't available anymore and everyone signing up is required to fulfill KYC.
There were many no KYC crypto gambling sites before, but later many prefer to require KYC. There are web3 casinos now which people can still use. Some web3 casinos come to this forum but their announcement thread is moved to altcoin board. Some casinos too are non KYC but people are not really trusting no KYC gambling sites like before as reputable ones are requiring KYC now.

Through this the underaged ones can be restricted from using the platforms. Even this is being bypassed with the verification details of parents or closer ones who are at the legal age to gamble. Underaged people gambling have brought big wins and there are examples of winner handling it in a mature manner. Same time there are people who end their lives after big losses.
Maybe they stole their parents documents for the KYC purpose, I do not think any parent can let their child to be gambling, not to talk of given the child their identity document to be used for verification. No matter what, underage can not win the gambling site just like adults.

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July 01, 2023, 09:16:33 PM
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Many online casinos and physical ones do not enforce the age restrictions until the user wins big at which point they talk about the regulatory rules and use it as a reason to not payout.

Only really honest platforms will stop underage gamblers from playing if they can identify them but majority would not bother to check.

I think you are right, I have noticed that there are many teenagers who are into the gambling thing and yet no casinos care about their age because they don't need such details of verification for short amounts of withdrawals. Well, I would also say that those casinos that ask for KYC when your withdrawal amount is higher aren't always shady ones, because they ask for KYC to better know about their customers. Once the KYC process is done they will allow the user to withdraw the earnings without any issue. They have been doing this for a long time and have built up respect in reputation in this community.

I'm quite sure that most of the reputed casinos are honest and they accept those users for gambling who are in acceptable age group for gambling activities. I'm not sure about gambling casinos, but there are many applications that allow teenagers and even the children to play games like poker. I know that there isn't real money involved in those games, but still morally it is unacceptable by many people around the world.

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Online gambling companies who knowingly permit or facilitate underage gambling are subject to legal prosecution. States and countries have different rules and regulations regarding online gambling. Operators who are discovered to be breaking age limitations may be subject to sanctions, fines, or possibly have their licenses revoked. To comprehend the possible legal measures that can be taken, it is crucial to check the relevant laws and regulations of your area.
You can report a gambling website to the relevant regulatory agencies in your country if you think it's allowing kids to wager. These agencies are in charge of monitoring and upholding the laws governing online gambling, and they have the authority to penalize operators who break the laws.
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July 01, 2023, 09:18:31 PM
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For online casinos, I believe they are not that strict when it comes to underage betting because they never know whether someone who is playing is an underage lad using the docs of someone else in order to gain access to the platform. There is just a lot of ways to game the KYC system for underage bettors to come through. In brick and mortar casinos however, it is a lot different. If convenient stores ask individuals not looking like they are 21 years or older whenever they want to buy booze, how much more would physical casinos to individuals not looking like they're old enough to be in such an establishment?
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July 01, 2023, 09:20:31 PM
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Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
I guess they are but I think only if they are being watched by the authority but for sure there are casinos out there that might be allowing minors to gamble even if for sure it is prohibited. Online casinos should be difficult to track though but for sure there's is something out in the shadows that minors gambles and sites that allows it.
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July 01, 2023, 09:23:14 PM
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Many online casinos and physical ones do not enforce the age restrictions until the user wins big at which point they talk about the regulatory rules and use it as a reason to not payout.

Only really honest platforms will stop underage gamblers from playing if they can identify them but majority would not bother to check.

I think you are right, I have noticed that there are many teenagers who are into the gambling thing and yet no casinos care about their age because they don't need such details of verification for short amounts of withdrawals. Well, I would also say that those casinos that ask for KYC when your withdrawal amount is higher aren't always shady ones, because they ask for KYC to better know about their customers. Once the KYC process is done they will allow the user to withdraw the earnings without any issue. They have been doing this for a long time and have built up respect in reputation in this community.

I'm quite sure that most of the reputed casinos are honest and they accept those users for gambling who are in acceptable age group for gambling activities. I'm not sure about gambling casinos, but there are many applications that allow teenagers and even the children to play games like poker. I know that there isn't real money involved in those games, but still morally it is unacceptable by many people around the world.
Yes, but the thing is there any casinos so far that prohibit gambling of minors I mean an online ones? maybe in physical ones it is possible but for online casinos it is a little bit impossible. I really do hope that there will be some feature that can detect whether the player is showing real ID for kyc or not but again, children and minors should not be tolerated to play at early age.
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July 01, 2023, 09:25:36 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?


Reputable sites do, and they are able to thanks to KYC and age verification, other gambling sites aren’t or are just flat out refusing to do so either because it’s a drag having to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in creating systems that will verify someone’s age through KYC, or because they’re afraid of losing money from these underaged citizens to which I say you have to be a certain level of asshole for you to even dare to do this.

With the current reputable system in the industry I don’t doubt the legitimacy of people who’re playing, at least in the age department, I’ve encountered some manchildren while I was gaming and gambling, but that’s the closest I’ve ever had an encounter with an immature individual in the gambling world.

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July 01, 2023, 09:42:08 PM
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Online casinos are just like land-based casinos, they will follow the laws of the countries they are offering services.

A lot of us here would probably say that online casinos are the ones that can be exploited easily by minor players. But in my experience in my country, I never saw once when I am in a land-based casino where the security guards are asking people for their IDs. I saw a lot of people coming in and out that seem underage. Except in Singapore wherein you need to present your passport and locals are asked for their IDs.

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