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July 19, 2023, 09:11:41 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
...

because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.



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July 19, 2023, 09:29:20 PM
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But how can parents be careful in the digital age when the sign up is just pushing a few buttons, using some fake data to register and deposit some cryptocurrency to gamble? This isn't only a problem of gambling, but porn as well. If a ten year old with a mobile phone wants to watch hardcore porn, it takes only a few moments to get there. The supervision that parents are often asked to do properly is impossible unless you install all kinds of blocks and limits on the phones I guess. But even apps like Tiktok are dangerous because I can't even remember how often I read some headline that a kid died from copying some shit from Tiktok.

We can talk about the legal age per country and what would make sense until when young people should refrain from gambling, but it all comes down to a case by case basis. There are some 18 year old who should not be allowed to drive. I remember when some got their licenses and I thought holy shit. But then there are others who are very careful and respecting traffic rules, so why not let them drive. It is the same with gambling. Some can handle the temptation very well or they don't even feel any temptation to exaggerate their gambling habits, while others develop an addiction.
I do understand your worry, trust me. The internet has both positive and negative aspects. It's a treasure trove of information one minute and a Pandora's box of adult material the next. That's a bitter truth, but one that we must accept.

Setting up parental controls is a good beginning step, but it won't solve the problem entirely. In today's modern world, children have become rather tech savvy. Kids will figure out a method to get past any problem. A cat-and-mouse game, to be sure!

The safest option? Free exchanges of ideas! Do we hear something simple? And maybe a little giddy, but it does the trick! Discuss your past actions, even if they were unsuccessful. Justify the harm and inappropriateness of some actions. Remind them that the repercussions for acting out in real life are much more severe than in a TikTok video. Keeping your eyes open is the first step.

I agree and this is why I believe that all these minimum age discussions aren't very productive. It doesn't matter whether you slap a sticker on something which is telling the people when they are allowed to use it, do it, consume it, or whatever. As you said, the best way is to get across the message that no action goes without consequences. But we all have been young and we all know that too often the only way to find out is try something out yourself. Access and availability are a big problem and could only be effectively countered with education and, to some degree, strict controls.

The overall trend to everything becoming mobile makes it infinitely harder to enforce effective controls. We talk about minimum age for gambling, but all those gambling platforms are represented on the jerseys that all the kids can buy even at kindergarten age. Instead of taking about a minimum age for gambling, it might be more effective to limit the huge number of contact with gambling platforms. Youtube ads, any ads on the Internet, all the clubs now being sponsored by gambling platforms, it's everywhere.
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July 19, 2023, 09:35:59 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?



I can't see how an online site would know unless like you said there was some sort of kyc requirements being met.  In terms of "what could happen" unsure but I know there are some decent sized penalties to brick and morter casinos if they knowingly allow underage kids gamble at theor facility.  Reining in all of this is the difficult part and the folks in charge of that probably have bigger fish to fry than to run down that rabbit hole would be my guess.

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July 19, 2023, 10:10:23 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
...

because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.
This is the problem with online casinos, which is a little difficult to distinguish whether these customers are adults or minors because it is true, as some people have said here, if currently minors are gambling and filling out KYC, they can manipulate using other people's data or buy data from other people for all reasons.
So that the casino only believes if the customer is an adult but everything will be seen when an underage customer gets a big win that requires filling out the next level of KYC so that these minors will have no way to prove the authenticity of the data.
So from this problem the casino system may not be able to distinguish adult or underage customers but when the time is right everything will be found out and the risk is that the account is banned.

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July 19, 2023, 10:20:32 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
...

because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.

Honestly it all comes down to parenting.  Here in the United States if you've got strict parents that heavily monitor your online activity, then it's highly unlikely that children are going to be able to make it possible for themselves to gamble online.  I know when I was a kid my parents would have never let me, they guarded the PC well.

That said if kids have parents that don't care, it's probably going to be pretty easy to get online and gamble.  Parents are the key.

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July 19, 2023, 11:19:08 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino does follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone underage to not gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
...

because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set, and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.

Honestly, it all comes down to parenting.  Here in the United States if you've got strict parents that heavily monitor your online activity, then it's highly unlikely that children are going to be able to make it possible for themselves to gamble online.  I know when I was a kid my parents would have never let me, they guarded the PC well.

That said if kids have parents that don't care, it's probably going to be pretty easy to get online and gamble.  Parents are the key.

You are right that mate the activity of the children is based on the parent's hands which means like what you said above if the parents are very strict then the children can not access the online casino easily. But if the parents are not just strict and let their children do what they want to do and then one thing is for sure they will become a gambler at an early age as we all know the curiosity of children make them fall into the gambling world.
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July 20, 2023, 09:25:15 AM
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You are right that mate the activity of the children is based on the parent's hands which means like what you said above if the parents are very strict then the children can not access the online casino easily. But if the parents are not just strict and let their children do what they want to do and then one thing is for sure they will become a gambler at an early age as we all know the curiosity of children make them fall into the gambling world.
I don't think there is a need to be strict in supervising children because it will make them rebel and it is better to give them an understanding of the dangers of gambling. It would be better for them than parents having strict rules in supervising their children. I think today's children understand more about the dangers of gambling because they can get news about gambling addiction from the internet and see its impact on people who have experienced gambling addiction. It will keep them away from gambling and they will not try to approach it because of the danger.

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July 20, 2023, 09:40:41 AM
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Honestly it all comes down to parenting.  Here in the United States if you've got strict parents that heavily monitor your online activity, then it's highly unlikely that children are going to be able to make it possible for themselves to gamble online.  I know when I was a kid my parents would have never let me, they guarded the PC well.

That said if kids have parents that don't care, it's probably going to be pretty easy to get online and gamble.  Parents are the key.

Not only in the US but in every country parents who can keep a track of thier child's activities would always prevent them from getting into any kind of addiction. I have also seen those parents who generally do not reveal thier addiction to thier children in a way safeguard a child's social behaviour against addiction. Still, in today's technology era it is not possible to always track your child's online activities. Before you get your self accoustomed to a new tech your child would be aware of countering it.

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July 20, 2023, 09:45:31 AM
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Honestly it all comes down to parenting.  Here in the United States if you've got strict parents that heavily monitor your online activity, then it's highly unlikely that children are going to be able to make it possible for themselves to gamble online.  I know when I was a kid my parents would have never let me, they guarded the PC well.

That said if kids have parents that don't care, it's probably going to be pretty easy to get online and gamble.  Parents are the key.

First of all, should parents give their kids private space or they must act like wardens? Kids life should be under 24/7 surveillance and linear, and one step left or right = execution. Then we have adults that are +30 or +40 and still live with their parents. Imho parents shouldnt be strict, but the kids must respect them. I would not say that my parents were really strict; my PC wasnt guarded all the time, from early childhood I've got access to the internet. I can easily access gambling pages, I knew were cash was and where credit cards are, but that did not raise much interest in me.
Imho it not always comes from parenting, it comes from surrounding. As a kid, I have respected my parents, but I think the I gave more trust and listened more to friends. If they would gamble all their money, I think I would do it to. But our passion was video games.

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July 20, 2023, 01:04:50 PM
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You are right that mate the activity of the children is based on the parent's hands which means like what you said above if the parents are very strict then the children can not access the online casino easily. But if the parents are not just strict and let their children do what they want to do and then one thing is for sure they will become a gambler at an early age as we all know the curiosity of children make them fall into the gambling world.
I don't think there is a need to be strict in supervising children because it will make them rebel and it is better to give them an understanding of the dangers of gambling. It would be better for them than parents having strict rules in supervising their children. I think today's children understand more about the dangers of gambling because they can get news about gambling addiction from the internet and see its impact on people who have experienced gambling addiction. It will keep them away from gambling and they will not try to approach it because of the danger.

This makes sense. If a parent will be super strict to his children, there's a huge tendency that the children will feel resentment to the parents and eventually be a rebellious one. If the parents are to control their children's life, it will be intoxicating and exhausting that could push them to be secretive about their whereabouts or what they do. They could even resort to doing illegal things just to bypass the strictness of their parents which could be dangerous to them especially if it involves gambling in physical casino establishments with fake ids.

It really boils down to teaching them how to behave and think rationally and at the same time practicing discipline and responsibility at home.
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July 20, 2023, 05:59:44 PM
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at least more states looking for 21 years old before being legal to gamble and that is much better than most countries that only  asks for 18 years old in which for me still not that completely aware of life and may fool around to become addicted in gambling.
I wish that this is truly implemented and not just a use to make gambling sounds good but many are not bringing this to reality.
If we look at the gap, it's not too much. It's only 3 years away but we shouldn't under-estimate it. With that span of time, a person can realize a lot of things already and they are now more mature to think. It won't now be easy for them to get attached in the game. Don't you worry mate because I think it was already been implemented.

I don't think they will release a chart like that if it isn't and maybe many casinos are now on their way of applying it. Even with this kind of age restrictions, some people's view towards gambling are still the same. It won't be changed easily or won't be revised any more. They think that gambling is still evil and a kind of a sin.

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July 21, 2023, 06:54:59 AM
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This makes sense. If a parent will be super strict to his children, there's a huge tendency that the children will feel resentment to the parents and eventually be a rebellious one. If the parents are to control their children's life, it will be intoxicating and exhausting that could push them to be secretive about their whereabouts or what they do. They could even resort to doing illegal things just to bypass the strictness of their parents which could be dangerous to them especially if it involves gambling in physical casino establishments with fake ids.

It really boils down to teaching them how to behave and think rationally and at the same time practicing discipline and responsibility at home.
That's because I have often seen how children become rebellious because their parents' rules are very harsh for them. Even their parents do not allow their children to study together at home or at a friend's house. Their children will think of doing something to make them happy without considering their parents' rules.

So if parents can give good advice and examples to their children, they will not rebel and will even obey their parents. Being parents doesn't mean we control their lives completely and control their lives so they don't have their own desires. If that's what parents do, their children won't be ready to face the rigors of life after they grow up. And that can make them do illegal activities or something that can make their life worse.

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Not only in the US but in every country parents who can keep a track of thier child's activities would always prevent them from getting into any kind of addiction. I have also seen those parents who generally do not reveal thier addiction to thier children in a way safeguard a child's social behaviour against addiction. Still, in today's technology era it is not possible to always track your child's online activities. Before you get your self accoustomed to a new tech your child would be aware of countering it.
Of course, in any country, every parent will definitely monitor and track the activities of their children, but unfortunately there are still many parents who don't really pay attention to what their children are doing, so many underage children have entered and tried to gamble.
If the gambling habit has been left on, it is very likely that in the next few years they will lose their way in life because they have become a gambling addict.
The development of the era cannot be the main reason why many children are getting to know gambling because the biggest mistake lies in parents who are negligent in supervision.

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July 21, 2023, 07:26:42 AM
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Honestly it all comes down to parenting.  Here in the United States if you've got strict parents that heavily monitor your online activity, then it's highly unlikely that children are going to be able to make it possible for themselves to gamble online.  I know when I was a kid my parents would have never let me, they guarded the PC well.

That said if kids have parents that don't care, it's probably going to be pretty easy to get online and gamble.  Parents are the key.

Not only in the US but in every country parents who can keep a track of thier child's activities would always prevent them from getting into any kind of addiction. I have also seen those parents who generally do not reveal thier addiction to thier children in a way safeguard a child's social behaviour against addiction. Still, in today's technology era it is not possible to always track your child's online activities. Before you get your self accoustomed to a new tech your child would be aware of countering it.
exactly. every parent in any country does not want their child to be addicted to negative activities such as addiction and always prevent in every way as you say from tracking his every activity. and I also agree that sometimes parent who are addicted to gambling usually hide their addiction or gambling activity from their children because they want to maintain the reputation of their parent and are afraid that this addictive behavior will also be carried out by their children.
I myself do the same thing every time I gamble. I never show my gambling activities in front of my children and prefer to be alone in a certain room to cover my bets. because sometimes the gambling addiction experienced by young people can start from the bad habits of their parents who show addiction to their children so that they will ignore whatever their parents prevent them from.

In the era of advanced technology like today, it may be difficult for parents to track their children activity because young people now understand better how to hide things from other people, even their own families.

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July 21, 2023, 07:53:09 AM
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What happens when an underage to the legally stipulated age for gambling uses an ID of a family member to register on the gambling site. Can a legal suit be made against the gambling site? Cause from what we see today there are lots of underage that are gambling secretly in online casinos without the knowledge of those casinos as their KYC provided proves someone of an eligible age.

It's not only in the position of the online casinos to monitor and sensor kids from gambling the parents of those kids and wards also have a contributive role to play ensuring their kids don't outsmart these casinos.
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Of course, in any country, every parent will definitely monitor and track the activities of their children, but unfortunately there are still many parents who don't really pay attention to what their children are doing, so many underage children have entered and tried to gamble.
If the gambling habit has been left on, it is very likely that in the next few years they will lose their way in life because they have become a gambling addict.
The development of the era cannot be the main reason why many children are getting to know gambling because the biggest mistake lies in parents who are negligent in supervision.
If a parent is unable to track the activity of children then I don't think they need to be called a parent. It is better that the government takes the custody of the children and let the so called parents enjoy thier life. These parents are those who became parent accidentally otherwise why won't they keep a track of their children. Whatever happens a parents primary responsibility is the children.

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I don't think there is a need to be strict in supervising children because it will make them rebel and it is better to give them an understanding of the dangers of gambling. It would be better for them than parents having strict rules in supervising their children. I think today's children understand more about the dangers of gambling because they can get news about gambling addiction from the internet and see its impact on people who have experienced gambling addiction. It will keep them away from gambling and they will not try to approach it because of the danger.

Sometimes you need to be strict with your children to discipline them, because there are some children who cannot be advised and they think that what they are doing is not wrong. This is where the role of strict parents is very important to be able to give a deterrent effect to these children so that they can listen more and not get involved in gambling because it is not yet the time for them. Moreover, the money they are betting on is their own parents' money, of course, parents have the right to be strict with their children.

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July 21, 2023, 02:09:50 PM
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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
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because every system in the casino is made by humans, there is no such thing as perfect, so gambling sites often have difficulty detecting whether those playing on their sites are adults or children, even though the gambling sites already require KYC because now there are many ways to manipulate KYC.

based on what I know, even in countries where gambling is legal, when casinos get a license they must obey the rules set and allowing minors to gamble is a serious violation so you must report to the authorities if you find minors gambling.

Honestly it all comes down to parenting.  Here in the United States if you've got strict parents that heavily monitor your online activity, then it's highly unlikely that children are going to be able to make it possible for themselves to gamble online.  I know when I was a kid my parents would have never let me, they guarded the PC well.

That said if kids have parents that don't care, it's probably going to be pretty easy to get online and gamble.  Parents are the key.

       -    Yes, as long as parents can watch over their children 24/7, they will do it, but it's not possible. So it depends on how parents make their children understand such things, especially if they are still minors.

Specifically here in our country, there are many rampant online casino ads on Facebook that cannot be avoided by other minors using Facebook that are not monitored by parents. But if the children understand this, I think even if their parents don't see it, they will avoid it because of what their parents taught them.



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July 21, 2023, 02:48:49 PM
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I don't think there is a need to be strict in supervising children because it will make them rebel and it is better to give them an understanding of the dangers of gambling. It would be better for them than parents having strict rules in supervising their children. I think today's children understand more about the dangers of gambling because they can get news about gambling addiction from the internet and see its impact on people who have experienced gambling addiction. It will keep them away from gambling and they will not try to approach it because of the danger.

Sometimes you need to be strict with your children to discipline them, because there are some children who cannot be advised and they think that what they are doing is not wrong. This is where the role of strict parents is very important to be able to give a deterrent effect to these children so that they can listen more and not get involved in gambling because it is not yet the time for them. Moreover, the money they are betting on is their own parents' money, of course, parents have the right to be strict with their children.

But we should not forget our boundaries as a parent because the choice will still be on their hands and our role is just to guide them and advise between the fine line of what is wrong and right, and seriously not to control them. There is nothing wrong if they seek an interest in gambling or if they are curious about it, let them learn a few because eventually, they will learn something from it, be it good or bad.

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I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?

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Of course, I have also seen many casino platforms that require an age to have an account. I think it is most important to keep people under 18 from gambling. Most of the casino platforms set a certain minimum age for them so that children under 18 are not addicted to gambling. Although children below the age of 18 gamble, many gambling platforms have been found to identify such children during KYC. However we always want minor children not to come to online casinos to brighten their future. Because everyone wants their beautiful future not to be ruined by gambling, legal action should be taken if any gambling platform allows children to gamble.

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