Did BC Change the Algo???

[ethereumhunter]

Anything can happen in gambling. Maybe we used to be able to win easily at gambling but lately, we have lost more often than we have won. That's gambling. We cannot expect to win when we gamble because gambling is not a place to make money. If we lose, we might think that the casino changed its algo or something, causing us to lose. So I think losing or winning in gambling is normal. Today we won a lot. Tomorrow does not guarantee that we will win. It could be that we will lose a lot and the day after tomorrow, we can also lose a lot of money. So it is true that we always bet with money we can afford to lose so that we don't lose too much money.

[astaroth81]

I'm trying to learn more about the change they made regarding the salted hash. Is it true that because a client seed is not used for crash that the salt value which is controlled solely by the casino, can be adjusted by the casino to control the outcome of the game?

They could also use a biased RNG. Has the RNG they use ever been audited? Sorry I'm just thinking out loud.

Could this control of the salt value be how they are able to control the range of numbers selected to ensure that crash doesn't end up going to 10,000+ several times in a row and instead stays low between 1-3 generally?

[astaroth81]

"BC.game has not been publicly audited by an independent organization. However, the casino does have a provably fair algorithm, which means that the games are mathematically impossible to cheat. The casino also claims to have been audited by an internal auditor, but the results of this audit have not been made public."

[Stakefast]

The same casino script is being used on other webistes such as nanogames.

It once was available to buy, same as with the Stake/Primedice casino script.

I don't think they are able to change the outcome since you can verify each round for yourself and set your own custom seed.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

The same casino script is being used on other webistes such as nanogames.

It once was available to buy, same as with the Stake/Primedice casino script.

I don't think they are able to change the outcome since you can verify each round for yourself and set your own custom seed.

I don't think script is what op is talking about, op is talking about the algorithm of of a game namely, coin flip..  Except there be something I am not understanding clearly..

Game algo is not the same as the script the casino built on, and even at that I believe script can still be updated by any casino if they deem it fit, this could be to make the casino look a bit unique from other casinos using that same script..

Algo clearly differs, which is why we see different casinos offering or showing different RTP for the same game.

[dezoel]

Anything can happen in gambling. Maybe we used to be able to win easily at gambling but lately, we have lost more often than we have won. That's gambling. We cannot expect to win when we gamble because gambling is not a place to make money. If we lose, we might think that the casino changed its algo or something, causing us to lose. So I think losing or winning in gambling is normal. Today we won a lot. Tomorrow does not guarantee that we will win. It could be that we will lose a lot and the day after tomorrow, we can also lose a lot of money. So it is true that we always bet with money we can afford to lose so that we don't lose too much money.

I can experience to win most of the times when I'm new to the gambling site. I guess this is one of their tactics for their customers to keep on playing and once you spend more time or money on them, you will only feel one day that you are not lucky anymore as the day you started.

It leads me to have the same impression as the OP where I also ask others if the fairness of the games have changed lately but maybe it's only in my head. We will only look crazy to other players and they think we are just butthurt because we can't accept our losses. Sometimes we are forgetting the fact that casino is also a business and they want to earn a profit too.

[astaroth81]

The same casino script is being used on other webistes such as nanogames.

It once was available to buy, same as with the Stake/Primedice casino script.

I don't think they are able to change the outcome since you can verify each round for yourself and set your own custom seed.

I don't think script is what op is talking about, op is talking about the algorithm of of a game namely, coin flip..  Except there be something I am not understanding clearly..

Game algo is not the same as the script the casino built on, and even at that I believe script can still be updated by any casino if they deem it fit, this could be to make the casino look a bit unique from other casinos using that same script..

Algo clearly differs, which is why we see different casinos offering or showing different RTP for the same game.

It's interesting you bring that up. I've noticed BC has the same no limit slots as most others with the same RTP but the recent win leader board is different on each one than other casinos. It's kind of odd. Bitcasino, I would think is the largest most well known casino, has the same no limit slots as most other places I've checked (rollbit, metaspins, luckyblock) but BC has different ones. RTP is said to be the same though I just find it weird.

I'm still new to gambling and I'm trying to learn more about how casinos work and the inner mechanics of things. I just don't understand how I was able to make over 15K on coin flip in a few days and now I can't come up a single dollar on the same game using the same strategy etc. I've played thousands of rounds on the game and know it is definitely acting much differently than it was before.

There was a distinguishable pattern that was present and now it's completely gone. Not only that, I swear the game is somehow being manipulated because it will continue to land heads or tails consistently in a row until I choose the opposite side then it immediately switches to the other side and starts to do the same thing. Then when I bet on the other side it switches back. Hard to explain..

I've noticed that when BTC is is green and everything is going up the games tend to be a lot easier at that casino. Crash for example will go on great runs and hit high multis a lot more than usual. So there must be a way that they can at least increase the difficulty of the games.

They have a special NFT there at BC that you can win on their "lucky spins" (which they advertise that you can win up to 5 BTC on but no one ever does because its 100% rigged and based on wager) called mDegenPass NFT. You can wager the mDegenPass and accumulate 1000 of them then mint a DegenPass NFT. I was shown an article stating that holding one in your BC wallet will increase your edge against the house. So while everyone else is playing games that are 96% edge you will play at 98%. I can't find that article again, it was shown to me by support months ago. But that alone clearly shows that they can manipulate the edge and difficulty of the games and subsequently the outcome. 

Which I mean sounds reasonable. You have someone who won 15K on a game in a few days, you increase the difficulty of the game to prevent further losses. BTC is red the future of crypto uncertain, you increase the house edge so you can retain liquidity. I guess that's fair?

[ethereumhunter]

I can experience to win most of the times when I'm new to the gambling site. I guess this is one of their tactics for their customers to keep on playing and once you spend more time or money on them, you will only feel one day that you are not lucky anymore as the day you started.

It leads me to have the same impression as the OP where I also ask others if the fairness of the games have changed lately but maybe it's only in my head. We will only look crazy to other players and they think we are just butthurt because we can't accept our losses. Sometimes we are forgetting the fact that casino is also a business and they want to earn a profit too.

It could be a casino tactic or beginner's luck because I see some beginners can win the game and make money. But maybe all of this will not be repeated at another time because it seems that the beginner's luck will move to other gamblers so that new gamblers will start to be curious and try it all the time. And if the casino starts changing its logarithm, we won't know either because the casino won't tell its members about it. But we only know that when we lose, it means luck is not with us so we have to realize it and stop immediately before all our money runs out.