Stake.com -Family scam Business since 90s

[cryptogeniusdice]

My name is R , I used ot play stake.com thinking it provably fair but during the course of few months , came to know the website is damn rigged and only there to take your money.

lets go the basics of the website , Stake.com was founded by Edward Craven whose father James Craven is notoriously famous 90s Australian stock market scam . Like father like son.

The stake live casinos are merely Green screen gimmick where using the CGI , they loot money from their players. 4 Billion Dollars in profit wont come without a scam thats for sure.

https://youtube.com/shorts/MoGSFjnKFdQ?feature=share

While the website endorses themselves as provably its nothing near provably fair , just they generating a hash using cookie and manipulating the bets and gameplay using sensors. The results are manipulated as the website uses illegal sensors which are banned in most of the countries to manipulate the bet.

When i posted in thier community about exposing the tricks they use to make you loose they disbarred me 2 months on first instance warning regarding postage if links.


Through my authorities i have put in a formal complaint regarding the owner of the website ED Craven , also contacted them via linkedin to give explnation. also contactd their partners and PR companies but nothing to avail.

This scam has geographic demographics from Australia, UK , US and all over the world . Millions are dollars are flushed on this casino loosing scam and the companies is endorsing with celebrities like drake . f1 team alpha romeo .

I request to come our each and every individual and lets stop this scam website.

[Nwada001]

First move your thread over to scam accusations board where it will be properly attended to.

In the past there have been lot of scam issues raised here regarding suspended withdrawal and accounts but all which followed the right process has all been marked resolved by the accusers.

Stake have an ANN thread (Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team here in the forum you can go ahead and contact the contact person ( Stunna )although he was last active online on the 7th of June which was last month.

Then you can make your accusations properly with image link if possible so that your case could be attended to properly.

[cabron]

It might just work for an explanation about that green background and that the glitch started. However, your video is already edited therefore this is modified and can not be seen as original. I'd be curious what Stake has to say though.

But really digging it all back to his father is surely going to tell us that intention of yours. We could just be talking about that particular game.

[MCUKing]

Seems Like I had already heard this name somewhere or I can say I had seen its advertisement. I don't know it is legit or not but I think it has nothing to do with the Bitcoin section because most such type of topics never exist here.

[batang_bitcoin]

I don't know the background of the owners of stake but if there's only thing that I know about them is that they've built its reputation over time and it's also they are serious with this business. They've taken on board Drake as their brand ambassador and paid him a lot of money.
So, I think that with that action and a combination of many users that will agree that they're trusting them, if going with the roots and whether it tallies or not. They've made their brand known and popular not just here in the forum but also in sporting events that they've been supporting athletes and those sports in itself.

[cryptogeniusdice]

the sensors on stake i was talking about these are check link below i m new to forum and i dont know how to use it.


https://prnt.sc/KHEpFz5AUxof

[Stunna]

You can't even consider this an accusation, this section used to operate on proof not FUD.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea how provably fair even works.

https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview

[cryptogeniusdice]

You can't even consider this an accusation, this section used to operate on proof not FUD.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea how provably fair even works.

https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview

Hello stunna , is this the reason you stopped putting api sonthat customers cannot export bets while the seeds are in used. Bullshit provably fair. on live games you are using greenscreen. provably fair is not altered as multiple nonces can generate random results as well.

and what about using your progressive sensors.

Eddie being son a notrious fraudster. i will be collabrating with your freneimes soon to expose you guys. ask mikey when i got to know of sensors he tried to bribe me.
instead of warning many times about your manipulation using the light house report which i submitted to yuka. you guys still cheat people.




this is the sensor which your companies uses on minesweeper . if you block it , the cookies are reupdated in terms of progressive

https://prnt.sc/9HhhKXSPSMJH0


All lies , stake.com have been saying till now. i am soon gonna expose them on a large scale. i have started comtacting people at Home office .

the tagline should be you dont make 4 billion dollars by cheating a few people


since may you guys have fucking the system with me.

https://prnt.sc/Cxf6qyyXQQAP
https://prnt.sc/PtKN95k87ZKa

You can't even consider this an accusation, this section used to operate on proof not FUD.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea how provably fair even works.

https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview

what happened stunna , is your scam exposed. can you let your customers know why the website if yours were down for 30 minutes.  coz you were working on patch to manipulate the bets.

stop scamming people out of their money , anywhich ways will soon be working towards to expose you, and right from mebit in serbia and sweepstakes in USA within 6 months you will be all going down thats a challenge from me. You edward, Tehrani  mladen and all top management get ready to go behind the bar.


if anyone feels that stake.com doesnt manipulate bets below is the link of proof of stake.com uses sensors to manipulate bets



this link has all the proof about all the illegal sensor permission stake.commuses to manipulate bets
https://prnt.sc/TE6pKy8BLHMa


Stunna its not FUD , NO FEAR , NO UNCERTAINITY NO DOUBT . BUT ITS FOR SURE , you guys are scamming your customers out of money by using fraud means of practice.

You can't even consider this an accusation, this section used to operate on proof not FUD.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea how provably fair even works.

https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview

Hello Stunna ,


Are you dead to reply on the motion sensors which manipulate the game

[CYBER_COWBOY]

Does this has to do anything with their own "Black Jack" (Stake Originals)?

[cryptogeniusdice]

They use greenscreen for stake live.

and they can view the cards which have been drawn .
through thr reflective lens

[Martingaleboy]

I think you just an an angry loser 
I saw your other post at stake forum where you faked a Interpol email its hust a proof of either you are a kid or a stupid since ibterpol doesnt deal with such a thing idiot
Also why would stake cheat you if house edge + player behavior and emotions in their side ? No need to cheat they will take your money anyway 

[acroman08]

I think you just an an angry loser 
I saw your other post at stake forum where you faked a Interpol email its hust a proof of either you are a kid or a stupid since ibterpol doesnt deal with such a thing idiot
Also why would stake cheat you if house edge + player behavior and emotions in their side ? No need to cheat they will take your money anyway 

would you mind sharing a screenshot here? OP seems to have a lot of anger towards stake.com, all of his posts are about stake.com being a scam gambling site.

anyway, it is not the first time I've seen a gambler post many negative things about a gambling site. they usually slowly vanish when there is not enough attention being given to them.

[holydarkness]

[...]

this is the sensor which your companies uses on minesweeper . if you block it , the cookies are reupdated in terms of progressive

https://prnt.sc/9HhhKXSPSMJH0


[...]

Jumping in from your other thread where a quite nice explanations of motion sensor has been answered and explained by couple of members. I am curious to know more, though, since you did not reply us there on how do you propose they utilize motion sensor to cheat their user, so I gave this thread a thorough read, and thought that link to screenshot above would help me understand you better. But, it's no longer exist. So... how is it, again?

[cryptogeniusdice]

[...]

this is the sensor which your companies uses on minesweeper . if you block it , the cookies are reupdated in terms of progressive

https://prnt.sc/9HhhKXSPSMJH0


[...]

Jumping in from your other thread where a quite nice explanations of motion sensor has been answered and explained by couple of members. I am curious to know more, though, since you did not reply us there on how do you propose they utilize motion sensor to cheat their user, so I gave this thread a thorough read, and thought that link to screenshot above would help me understand you better. But, it's no longer exist. So... how is it, again?

Yes , it is registered in Curacao , where there is no authority .

Moreover Eddies father is notrious stock market defrauder and like wise son is the same.

they are australian citizen , why they cannot register in Australia, oh wait a minute coz they are running a Scam .

stake.com CEO  Mladden ( Fucker) IS FROM serbia runs a company , Meebit which is a part of stake , which handles the support team . wait there is no gambling regulation authority there.

All employee who are earning bread n butter through scamming people will comment here , they are legit . you LmB if they are legit . they are bloody pounding in peoples money and i have reported to bueraucatic authority who will take care of this soon.


NOTHING with PROVABLY FAIR , IF YOU UNDERSTAND SIMPLE PROBABLITY YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND :


N = no of hash set
(x)= total number


when you hash a hexadecimal number of (64) characters it would would give character string of 64 characters
if the same  if you hash a hexadecimal number of (60) characters it  would give character string off 64 characters
  same for hash(72)
hash(10)


all the enteries of hash(10) would be in hash(60) , hash(60) would be in hash(62) , hash(62) would be in hash(64) likewise each set would have entries in the superceding number .

They use hmac responses to print multiple results at give time , and that information is stored when the hash is revealed.


1. when you can see the live stats nit working , nor the bet showing on the page .
2. Balance doest update .
3. on transaction page few bet id are numberedafter few seconds.


this means they are manipulating the bets using V2 or V3 using Inversion of Length extension attack


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_extension_attack

[cryptogeniusdice]

[...]

this is the sensor which your companies uses on minesweeper . if you block it , the cookies are reupdated in terms of progressive

https://prnt.sc/9HhhKXSPSMJH0


[...]

Jumping in from your other thread where a quite nice explanations of motion sensor has been answered and explained by couple of members. I am curious to know more, though, since you did not reply us there on how do you propose they utilize motion sensor to cheat their user, so I gave this thread a thorough read, and thought that link to screenshot above would help me understand you better. But, it's no longer exist. So... how is it, again?

employees of stake are reporting and the website is taking down the picture

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk

[holydarkness]

[...]

this is the sensor which your companies uses on minesweeper . if you block it , the cookies are reupdated in terms of progressive

https://prnt.sc/9HhhKXSPSMJH0


[...]

Jumping in from your other thread where a quite nice explanations of motion sensor has been answered and explained by couple of members. I am curious to know more, though, since you did not reply us there on how do you propose they utilize motion sensor to cheat their user, so I gave this thread a thorough read, and thought that link to screenshot above would help me understand you better. But, it's no longer exist. So... how is it, again?

employees of stake are reporting and the website is taking down the picture

https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk

So you're sending us... a private google drive folder files where we have to submit a request for you to grant access? Yeah, no thanks. Upload whatever that is to talkimg, it's owned by forum's reputable member, dedicated for this forum, so I am quite confident with their neutrality.

[cryptogeniusdice]

[...]

this is the sensor which your companies uses on minesweeper . if you block it , the cookies are reupdated in terms of progressive

https://prnt.sc/9HhhKXSPSMJH0


[...]

Jumping in from your other thread where a quite nice explanations of motion sensor has been answered and explained by couple of members. I am curious to know more, though, since you did not reply us there on how do you propose they utilize motion sensor to cheat their user, so I gave this thread a thorough read, and thought that link to screenshot above would help me understand you better. But, it's no longer exist. So... how is it, again?

employees of stake are reporting and the website is taking down the picture

https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk

So you're sending us... a private google drive folder files where we have to submit a request for you to grant access? Yeah, no thanks. Upload whatever that is to talkimg, it's owned by forum's reputable member, dedicated for this forum, so I am quite confident with their neutrality.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/10/ZtJ6a.jpeg

my bad here you go

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk

[holydarkness]

my bad here you go

https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk

As previously suggested, it'll be helpful for the forum members if you upload them to an image hosting platforms like talkimg [that's owned by reputable member of this forum] or like imgbb if you prefer, so they can see the image instantly without having to click a link. But, nonetheless, I'll do it for you. Deliberately taking this as a screenshot with visible address bar to prove that the images are as provided by the links above.



They are the same image as you provide throughout your threads and posts. If I may ask again, can you please explain how Stake, in your educated opinion, use these sensors to cheat their users?

[zimmerxdav]

my bad here you go

https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk

As previously suggested, it'll be helpful for the forum members if you upload them to an image hosting platforms like talkimg [that's owned by reputable member of this forum] or like imgbb if you prefer, so they can see the image instantly without having to click a link. But, nonetheless, I'll do it for you. Deliberately taking this as a screenshot with visible address bar to prove that the images are as provided by the links above.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/11/ZNKno.jpeg https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/11/ZNbvT.jpeg

They are the same image as you provide throughout your threads and posts. If I may ask again, can you please explain how Stake, in your educated opinion, use these sensors to cheat their users?

Hmm... If I may ask you, why keep tracking all this data if there's no use for that? If there's no real manipulation, why keep tracking players? Oh, so you can offer a deposit bonus for players? You can cheat using that, as you know the outcome of the games. They have access to the backend, and if they want to cheat, they will do and can use math to cover their tracks.

Whether there is tracking or not is no longer a dubious question (https://www.optimove.com/pdf/Optimove-Stake-Case-Study.pdf).

Quote: This document was never officially denied or confirmed by Stake. Draw your own conclusions.

As they themselves say: do your own research (https://stakecommunity.com/topic/37066-indepth-look-into-stake-rng-and-the-proofably-fair-system/?do=findComment&comment=767763).

You can't even consider this an accusation, this section used to operate on proof not FUD.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea how provably fair even works.

https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview

Good to see you here, Stunna. Can you answer this (my answer) points in a precise way? Thanks.

[holydarkness]

my bad here you go

https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1F-93C4GeREcQLyct0OjUlJ7ZEGg1HUUI/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google[dot]com/file/d/1N4Kvk5fO42MjUpQX6MK56mc4y1hdeCYt/view?usp=drivesdk

As previously suggested, it'll be helpful for the forum members if you upload them to an image hosting platforms like talkimg [that's owned by reputable member of this forum] or like imgbb if you prefer, so they can see the image instantly without having to click a link. But, nonetheless, I'll do it for you. Deliberately taking this as a screenshot with visible address bar to prove that the images are as provided by the links above.

[image snip]

They are the same image as you provide throughout your threads and posts. If I may ask again, can you please explain how Stake, in your educated opinion, use these sensors to cheat their users?

Hmm... If I may ask you, why keep tracking all this data if there's no use for that? If there's no real manipulation, why keep tracking players? Oh, so you can offer a deposit bonus for players? You can cheat using that, as you know the outcome of the games. They have access to the backend, and if they want to cheat, they will do and can use math to cover their tracks.

Whether there is tracking or not is no longer a dubious question (https://www.optimove.com/pdf/Optimove-Stake-Case-Study.pdf).

Quote: This document was never officially denied or confirmed by Stake. Draw your own conclusions.

As they themselves say: do your own research (https://stakecommunity.com/topic/37066-indepth-look-into-stake-rng-and-the-proofably-fair-system/?do=findComment&comment=767763).

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I assume correctly this account is owned by the same as thread poster, cryptogeniusdice? If you happen to be different people and you just here to pitch in your findings and curious about those sensor, I'd advise you read OP's other thread where some possible explanation has been laid out by couple of members.

Meanwhile, as for your own article, I took a quick read at it and it was about a partnership with a marketing company? May I know what you tried to propose here? I don't think cooperating with a marketing team is something illegal? Unless I am wrong and there's something fishy about Optimove? Please divulge more.