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July 07, 2023, 05:33:24 AM
Last edit: July 07, 2023, 12:35:31 PM by cryptogeniusdice
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the above link contains the proof that stake.com is a scam, they use sensors to manipulate the bets amd nothing to do with provably fair . just science of last numbers.


please tag stunna over here also they tried to remove the image by reporting it.
4 billion dollars worth of income with scamming people.

The cofounders father ran a scam in Australian securities market.


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here is the link which proves everything.


they are removing the image from the link
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July 07, 2023, 06:18:27 PM
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I haven't read your other thread about Stake being... a family run scam business, and as I am not a tech geekie, I have to resort to a quick search at the internet about motion sensor, some explains that it's implemented on tablets and phones to help determine the screen orientation through gyrometer etc., help enhancing gaming experience by translating touches and gestures into action [temple run, anyone?], fitness app tracking, but one that explains quite nicely about brave in desktop, that blocking motion sensor from a website that doesn't need a motion sensor by logical reason [pizza hut for that case, stake for this case] is this snippet, that hopefully could help provide readers some insight:

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As it turns out, one person has dug down to the very bottom of this mystery; that person is Grant Winny, a developer from Ohio. Grant followed the code trail after noticing the motion sensor alert on several sites, including the same site we visited, Pizza Hut:

It turns out that this is a function that Akamai is behind. Akamai is a massive online content and content delivery system. Grant Winny concluded that this is a script developed by Akamai to determine whether a visitor to a website (i.e. the visitor’s web browser) is a bot, saying that it is “using sensor data like accelerometer capabilities to determine whether a requestor is a bot or not.” (You can read his very in-depth analysis of the whats, wheres, and whys here.) [...]

I didn't read to the bottom of the page, but I think we have our answer why stake asked for it: to detect if you're bot or human.

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July 07, 2023, 11:05:17 PM
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I never heard this permissions on other users using Stake before, maybe a new feature, but surely looks like sensors have different ways to sense any activity you do in browsers. Yeah, sensors are a helpful use in gaming and VR but in gambling? It will probably raise an red flag issue.

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July 08, 2023, 02:25:07 AM
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aI have gone trhough the website light house report as well as stats. That motion sensor is embedded on cookie , this one is on the main javascript which they use to manipulate the bets.

this one is another
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July 08, 2023, 07:37:46 AM
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You have made other threads accusing that they're a scam. Refer to the links below;
You have also posted on stake's thread and then stunna has answered you. I think that he won't get on this thread with this another thread you've made.

I am not technical on this one but I've found an article that has the same thing about this sensor: Why are websites requesting access to motion sensors... on my desktop?
A lot of interesting information I've read down there on the comment section and as well as the article itself.

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July 08, 2023, 10:11:34 AM
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I never heard this permissions on other users using Stake before, maybe a new feature, but surely looks like sensors have different ways to sense any activity you do in browsers. Yeah, sensors are a helpful use in gaming and VR but in gambling? It will probably raise an red flag issue.

I think they use it for the mobile users, to help them detect the screen rotation. And as it embedded on their coding, it applied to the desktop version as well.



aI have gone trhough the website light house report as well as stats. That motion sensor is embedded on cookie , this one is on the main javascript which they use to manipulate the bets.

this one is another

Just because you're hell-bent on that idea, I'd like to know more how do you theorize that it works on manipulating bets. Please elaborate more so people can get a better grasp of your proposal.

Meanwhile, not a tech geekie that I am, I need to resort to other intelligence, so I approached the closest available to me right now, namely AI, below is a generated response from ChatGPT:

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It is highly unlikely that a gambling site would use motion sensors to specifically cheat or manipulate the outcomes of your bets. Reputable and licensed gambling sites are subject to regulatory oversight and audits to ensure fairness and prevent fraudulent practices.

Motion sensors are not typically used as a means to influence gambling outcomes. Their primary purpose is for interactive experiences, gaming, or motion-based controls. The use of motion sensors in a gambling context would likely be unrelated to the fairness of the games or the outcomes of bets.

However, it's important to exercise caution and choose reputable gambling sites that are licensed and regulated by recognized authorities. Independent testing and auditing organizations ensure the fairness and integrity of the games provided by these sites.

If you have concerns about a specific gambling site, it is advisable to do thorough research, read reviews, and check for licensing and regulation information. This will help you make an informed decision and choose a trustworthy platform for your gambling activities.

Overall, while it is essential to be vigilant and choose reliable gambling platforms, it is highly unlikely that motion sensors would be used as a means to cheat or manipulate the outcomes of your bets.

Given Stake is licensed and regulated, I think it's safe to assume they passed all the audit conducted on the safety and cheat-free of their platform. I mean, the word even written by yourself on your opening post, though turned around, they're provably fair. I think they'll more than welcome you and anyone to test this, the full guide and explanation is here.



You have made other threads accusing that they're a scam. Refer to the links below;
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To be fair, OP is not the same one --hopefully-- with the user who raised a complaint about 10,500 XRP, he's just there commenting with a completely unrelated and oot post.

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July 08, 2023, 07:46:13 PM
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Op why do you create different threads instead of making comments with the different accusations in one thread. Creating different for the same casino or website can not solve the problem but your evidences from the different period of scams and post it in one thread so users here will look into the case and judge it and not for the to spam the board with different threads with the same purpose.
Skate accusation is a new thing I am seeing here. Skate has been in the forum for very long time and the site is running smoothly before so this accusations that are coming up are worrisome.
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July 08, 2023, 11:01:03 PM
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in addition to creating many threads accusing them without proof, you also don't follow the rules when you create a scam accusation, do this:

Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly)

you need to follow the proper format so that we can better understand what your problem is, what you missed at the casino and what you want the casino to do for you to be satisfied, now a serious mistake you are making is exposing personal matters like keep accusing the relatives of the supposed owners of the casino, see that I say supposed owners because I don't know who they are, on the day they want to show their identity and talk about their personal matters, they will talk, but this is not the case, and you shouldn't be talking about people's fathers

your problem is with the casino, so expose your problem appropriately and with that we will understand what you want, and of course you must not forget to post proof, without proof hardly anyone will believe in something you are saying and be careful with that of creating many threads talking about the same thing. good luck in solving your problem

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Your statement is not specifically based on evidence. are there any people in writing, writing that anyone knowingly feels this is rigged?

is there a screenshot or something a bit more in depth to be good evidence of account transfer or something odd??

What I read from the website you provided is that Edward Craven is a founder of the streaming platform and explores more of his life story. Not from the alleged fraud, maybe in your 2nd link. I haven't checked further. I myself, although I have never used gambling sites like stake.com etc., but I have turned off the motion sensor on my device's browser. Indeed, there is no guarantee that the security and abuse controls on the browser are permanent, at least I have made small efforts to minimize the possibility.









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Yes , it is registered in Curacao , where there is no authority .

Moreover Eddies father is notrious stock market defrauder and like wise son is the same.

they are australian citizen , why they cannot register in Australia, oh wait a minute coz they are running a Scam .

stake.com CEO  Mladden ( Fucker) IS FROM serbia runs a company , Meebit which is a part of stake , which handles the support team . wait there is no gambling regulation authority there.

All employee who are earning bread n butter through scamming people will comment here , they are legit . you LmB if they are legit . they are bloody pounding in peoples money and i have reported to bueraucatic authority who will take care of this soon.


NOTHING with PROVABLY FAIR , IF YOU UNDERSTAND SIMPLE PROBABLITY YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND :


N = no of hash set
(x)= total number


when you hash a hexadecimal number of (64) characters it would would give character string of 64 characters
if the same  if you hash a hexadecimal number of (60) characters it  would give character string off 64 characters
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hash(10)


all the enteries of hash(10) would be in hash(60) , hash(60) would be in hash(62) , hash(62) would be in hash(64) likewise each set would have entries in the superceding number .

They use hmac responses to print multiple results at give time , and that information is stored when the hash is revealed.


1. when you can see the live stats nit working , nor the bet showing on the page .
2. Balance doest update .
3. on transaction page few bet id are numberedafter few seconds.


this means they are manipulating the bets using V2 or V3 using Inversion of Length extension attack


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_extension_attack

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