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July 05, 2023, 03:05:19 PM
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It is for the fash and sharp minds and that is why you hear all the allegations stories in the forum whether true or not but each party is trying to watch their back because if you don't protect yourself, any lakuna could be exploited.

This is why we should get updates on the platforms that we are playing, not all of us are good at catching cheating casinos, they should be reported to warn other players, they may cheat players one time and get away with it but they cannot cheat players all the time and once caught that's the end of the line for this kind of casino.
So we should urge players to report if there are bugs and manipulation and it should be accompanied by proof because there are also players who try to get it even though they lose fair and square and they gave false allegations and accusations.

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July 05, 2023, 03:09:49 PM
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Is there a way to verify the virtual games? if not then anyone shouldn't gamble on virtual games because it could be cheated or manipulated by the casino.

It's not cool for the casino to give a reason due to bug or glitch, people will not happy because they're gambling and they risk their money. Such small mistake would make the gambler don't want to gamble anymore and the casino might lose many gamblers because of fast spread of bad news.

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July 05, 2023, 04:19:52 PM
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Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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Could you explain how the virtual game works? On average, how much time does a single match consume? If a match takes more than 10 minutes or even 5 minutes, I don't think it's possible to achieve 5 goals "in a blink of an eye." It seems quite impossible, especially in virtual games that take time to produce results, unless the casino is cheating..

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July 05, 2023, 04:44:21 PM
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Note that, the casino system is designed to favour the house and for that, if there is no fairness in the system it then means the casino is at liberty to treat the gambler in whichever their can and so long as the casino is a business outfit,  it then means that there will do everything possible to protect their interest.

So even in a sure winning bet,  the casino doesn't mind manipulating the games just to suit their own interest against that of the player.

I understand that casinos design their games to be more profitable to their side, because that's how business should work, but I still don't agree with their actions which are detrimental to the players. Their actions in manipulating the game are highly unacceptable and a casino platform like this should be flagged by players not to be recommended to play on it.

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July 05, 2023, 04:52:21 PM
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Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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Could you explain how the virtual game works? On average, how much time does a single match consume? If a match takes more than 10 minutes or even 5 minutes, I don't think it's possible to achieve 5 goals "in a blink of an eye." It seems quite impossible, especially in virtual games that take time to produce results, unless the casino is cheating..
I don't know if you have played virtual games before bro, because its takes just some minutes to decide and most times the goals are flashed into one particular game sometimes two goals at once (virtual soccer games)and  every game seems to be already program so its really hard to win against the house. For virtual soccer games the number of goals scored per match is about six goals in 2 to 3 minutes per match and once this amount is achieved no more goals are scored

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July 05, 2023, 04:59:22 PM
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Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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Could you explain how the virtual game works? On average, how much time does a single match consume? If a match takes more than 10 minutes or even 5 minutes, I don't think it's possible to achieve 5 goals "in a blink of an eye." It seems quite impossible, especially in virtual games that take time to produce results, unless the casino is cheating..
I don't know if you have played virtual games before bro, because its takes just some minutes to decide and most times the goals are flashed into one particular game sometimes two goals at once (virtual soccer games)and  every game seems to be already program so its really hard to win against the house. For virtual soccer games the number of goals scored per match is about six goals in 2 to 3 minutes per match and once this amount is achieved no more goals are scored
I haven't played that kind of virtual game before so it means that the outcome is decided from the start you placed your bet? Even if it is decided already, I think it's unjust to have a 5 goal straight in an instant Lol. Any gambler would question what happened why did the outcome become like that. I suspect that a visuall bug happened since it is decided from the start. It's illogical to get an instant overwhelming score. You can't even consider it as a comeback without investigations knowing how fast and quick the score are. My best guess is a visual bug.
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July 05, 2023, 05:05:40 PM
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I work for a casino house a couple of years ago - I could make a serial reference since it's been said in most of my post here.
Alright,?? Cashiers were assigned to manage the activities and book on desired games for all validated customers, but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.
Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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If you are talking about something that was done years ago then it would probably become harder to verify what had happened.
On a side not, many casino sites are created just to gain profits from their users. So we never know if it was an actual bug or they had implemented it in that way purposely.
In any condition, the casino site will just say it as a technical glitch and redirect the user to their terms and conditions where it would be written that they are not responsible for such glitches.

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July 05, 2023, 05:19:09 PM
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I work for a casino house a couple of years ago - I could make a serial reference since it's been said in most of my post here.
Alright,?? Cashiers were assigned to manage the activities and book on desired games for all validated customers, but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.
Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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My honest answer is that I have absolutely no idea. This is one reason why I wouldn’t engage in this sort of gambling. Being unable to prove that a game is fair is enough, but when you start seeing behavior that I would categorize as suspect, I think it’s probably time to move on and find a new game at a new casino to play.

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I work for a casino house a couple of years ago - I could make a serial reference since it's been said in most of my post here.
Alright,?? Cashiers were assigned to manage the activities and book on desired games for all validated customers, but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.
Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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If you are talking about something that was done years ago then it would probably become harder to verify what had happened.
On a side not, many casino sites are created just to gain profits from their users. So we never know if it was an actual bug or they had implemented it in that way purposely.
In any condition, the casino site will just say it as a technical glitch and redirect the user to their terms and conditions where it would be written that they are not responsible for such glitches.
Tendency of some gambling platforms to cheat on their players is possible especially those which are not having long term vision of their site. One reason for them is to just easily abandon their platform and run with the money they have collected. But this is not to scare gambler; main point is to choose the best ones in the market given that there's plenty of options. Indeed glitches could either be an accidental or intentional bug. What would determine on which type it is, is whether it happens a lot and if it is not to a single player or game or match. What is assure is to not be ble to determine such scheme in a single glance no matter how good you are as a gambler.

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July 05, 2023, 06:10:40 PM
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There is a thing of pre-determined.

So, in a program most the time like (Slot) and these games. The result is already pre-determined even in the case these coming from the user like internet death and other, the result already can be found as long is matches with the provably-fair most the time.

Like (Jakcpot) pick in Slot, you need to get (3 Grand Picture) but have 9 glasses to be picked no matter what glass you're picking if the pre-determined you're not winning the grand then you don't need to carefully pick the glass at all.

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July 05, 2023, 06:24:29 PM
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I wouldn't put my money on anything that doesn't have a verifiable and fair betting system. When it comes to real matches, you can always cross-check the results on other sites or even watch the match live through a stream. But when it comes to virtual games, I'm not sure how it should work. If I can't independently verify the outcome, I wouldn't risk betting on them.

Virtual games are very unpredictable. I will not also bet on such games that solely depend on luck or a pre-planned system. I prefer to bet on games that I can play some part in analyzing the games and predicting the outcome. I have also observed that virtual games are addictive sports games. One can easily be addicted to virtual games because they can be played many times in a few minutes. The situation OP explained is nothing but a planned system to make bettors lose money. If I want to play sports gambling, my choice is always live games.

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Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

Kylian Mbappe score back to back on world cup finals against Argentina during 80' and 81' mark. Assuming that the game is just virtual games, I think that kind of score is possible since the game is just on simulation. Assuming player is program like Mbappe skills that can score quick then it's really possible.

But since there's a lagging part on the screen which doesn't show the complete result of the game while this game is predetermined. I think it's really a visual bug or the game was wrongly set the final score that is not right to the actual result of the game. Since all the games is not verifiable, I think no one complaint a lot about it which makes this issue is not popular.

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So we should urge players to report if there are bugs and manipulation and it should be accompanied by proof because there are also players who try to get it even though they lose fair and square and they gave false allegations and accusations.

Reporting also could be dangerous because some bettors are over zealous when they lose their bet, they want to cause problem for the casino. This is like what we have seen in the forum where new accounts have made allegations whether right or wrong. So reporting a casino is dangerous and bettors should be careful and certain with proof if they are to do that.

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~snip~
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?
I think it's normal to see that sometimes, but not all the time though. If it repeats every time it could be a programming error in the casino system. I'd say I'm pretty sure there's a way to display the replay of how the game was played as proof for the gambler that the virtual game was fair and that no tricks were involved.
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Alot of questions, but I think I'll have to answer the most preferred ones.
@Goinmeery, there are no explicit details on the every post match simulations... If you've played on virtuals, you'd know this already.
Maybe the sportsbook's live score is bugged because I remember it happens on a few sportsbooks. Once their live score desyncs, you'd sometimes be surprised how fast the score moves as they try to adjust it.
I'm happy I didn't experience this all by myself... My suggestions are, maybe it would prolly be a glitch - a very bad on for that reason.
The score sheets displayed on the screen were erroneous?
That, I can't tell. We weren't software engineers- I barely had an idea about irregular glitches like that untill now... But I realized that this is still persistent even in some local gambling houses. P/S; I dunno if it happens on sites too, I'm only sure of a casino house settings.
.. how much time does a single match consume?
just like what the quoted post from you below says, I'm not sure you've played on virtual games before - some virtual games would take only 3 minutes to decide a win or lose, and that's even the more reasons why it becomes very entertaining. Maybe you thought we all were talking about virtuals like ZOOM? that takes way-too long.
I don't know if you have played virtual games before bro, because its takes just some minutes to decide and most times the goals are flashed into one particular game sometimes two goals at once (virtual soccer games)and  every game seems to be already program so its really hard to win against the house. For virtual soccer games the number of goals scored per match is about six goals in 2 to 3 minutes per match and once this amount is achieved no more goals are scored

As far as I know, the Away Goal team refers to the system, it's purely based on Hattrick, Brace, Quattrick, or Quintrick, more commonly known as leg or home-away in the system, usually the away team is considered to have more weight than the home/headquarters team, using a system of determining the highest number of away goals, in the event of a draw or 2-0 one match.

In the Quintrick system, usually players have to try and be sued or required to score 5 goals in one game, I remember when Bayern players scored 2 goals in 4 minutes, on away goals.

Different from the Hattrick system in that away goals players are required to score 6 goals, while Quattrick is demanded 4 goals and Brace 2 goals, as far as I know that is the process of how to determine away goals, more than the assessment of time in one game.
yosh! That's exactly on point! Those domains aren't programmed in favour of the gamblers...that can never be!!

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I work for a casino house a couple of years ago - I could make a serial reference since it's been said in most of my post here.
Alright,?? Cashiers were assigned to manage the activities and book on desired games for all validated customers, but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.
Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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This is the first time i even hear about virtual bettings, i had a feeling i know what you meant but i had to google and confirm.
You didn't mention the casino and i am assuming now that you are telling the truth even though i have no way to confirm it and stuff you said was pretty vague.

But it sure sounds like a bug, which shouldn't be happening with the games like that as it beats the purpose of the whole game.
May i ask if there were times when it happened other way around? Times when gambler was sure to lose but numbers changed for their benefit and they won?

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July 05, 2023, 10:07:40 PM
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I work for a casino house a couple of years ago - I could make a serial reference since it's been said in most of my post here.
Alright,?? Cashiers were assigned to manage the activities and book on desired games for all validated customers, but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.
Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

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Isn't that most likely a bug? I mean if the screen suddenly stops and within less than a minute, the score suddenly jumps up to 2-5, unless this was a pre-recorded scene and somehow some of the footage was corrupted, then it's impossible for a team, no matter how "virtual" it is, to score 5 goals in that instant. That is unless there's again, another mechanism that virtual games use to speed up the time it takes, skipping most of the passing and whatnot and only showing the goals. Or, the screen itself was bugged. Have you tried confirming if other users experienced the same thing/other providers?

I haven't really tried virtual sports though so I'm not sure.

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July 05, 2023, 10:18:41 PM
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I work for a casino house a couple of years ago - I could make a serial reference since it's been said in most of my post here.
Alright,?? Cashiers were assigned to manage the activities and book on desired games for all validated customers, but i normally noticed something very displeasing - sometimes, I felt bad for any gambler that lost in that same way and It looked to me like a kinda "money heist" program.
Here is it; A gambler could bet on correct scores - mind you, this all happens only in Virtual games - let's say, 3-0 and, since the games are being displayed on screens for them to confirm Thier winnings, it could even happen that the game stops at the 82nd minute, maybe with a 2-0 score,but once it rules out and updates the scores on the score sheets,.what we all see is 2-5...
Now the question is, how can 5 goals from the away teams be scored in barely a time to blink?? Could that have supposed to mean something different? Maybe a bug? Or is it some sort of misprogramming?

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
I don't get this entirely, so does this mean that casinos are actively making efforts all to ensure that players won't win? Do you have any proof of this? Cause if this is so then we're probably looking at a class-action lawsuit against multiple chains of gambling sites/casinos if proven that these casinos/sportsbooks are actively undermining their players in the name of profit. But for now, given the fact that we don't really have enough evidence going on besides the fact that you said you "worked for a casino one time and you saw this", it's safe to assume that this is just a visual bug or a bug in the system that could easily be fixed to give the players the peace of mind they need. This is most especially if the outcomes don't change and the players are still receiving their wins.

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July 05, 2023, 10:48:15 PM
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There is a thing of pre-determined.

So, in a program most the time like (Slot) and these games. The result is already pre-determined even in the case these coming from the user like internet death and other, the result already can be found as long is matches with the provably-fair most the time.
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^I agree with this, there is a thing of pre-determined.
But in my mind, glitches and programming errors can occasionally occur in virtual games, leading to unexpected outcomes or incorrect score updates. However, without further information or investigation, it is difficult to definitively determine if it was indeed a bug. If OP encountered this issue while playing or betting on a specific virtual game, I would recommend reaching out to the game developers or platform administrators to inquire about the situation and seek clarification on the matter. They would be better have investigate and provide you with a more accurate explanation.
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July 05, 2023, 10:49:40 PM
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RNG. It's quite shocking sometimes. I don't think it is a bug.
Was your sample a soccer game? Well, it's a virtual game so anything could happen in just one to five minutes.

I really wish they could provide a replay of games like this on how the heck those things happen in just a manner of time. But I guess the game always depends on weighing the betting amount on each side. I mean, the house cannot lose, they are just like the middleman in this type of game. So if Team A has 8 bettors and Team B has 10, then they might just let Team A win and take the excess amount for payment as an arbiter.
All we can do is rely on our luck that we are on the right winning side. I'd rather choose Esports although they have some issues too at selling games.

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