Game Winner Result Changed After 24 hours (Defaulted)

[Johnyz]

Stake.com voided the bet . That would be followed by all other decent sportsbooks

If its stated on their rules then this option is more possible.
Cheating can happen in sports and the league might change their decision alter on because of this and I'm sure the site are more prepared with regards to this one. Better to contact the support of the site and ask for clarification and what will happen to their bets since the result changed after cheating. I'm looking for a specific clause with regards to this one, so far I didn't see any specific rules for this.

[rdluffy]

Wow, this is not very common to happen, I particularly never experienced this situation.
I was very curious and looked to see if there is something in the rules that details this situation, and I found it, at least on the platform I use:

➔ In the case where there is an overruling of a match result by the organizer due to unforeseen circumstances -
such as cheating - all bets on that match will be voided.

Source: Duelbits

So, the bets will be voided, but I don't what happens if the users already did a withdraw for example, pretty hard to deal with this situation, since the campanies and the users are not guilty in this case

[slapper]

Once a bet is settled, it stays settled, as the saying goes in the gambling world. This figurative line in the sand ensures that the platform can continue to function as intended and is fair to all users. What happens, though, when the very idea of fair play, which serves as the basis for such integrity, comes into question? Very intriguing...

If the platforms changed the results, wouldn't that be against their own rules? But if they don't, aren't they tacitly supporting dishonest methods? A difficult problem of the highest kind...

[bittraffic]

Wow, this is not very common to happen, I particularly never experienced this situation.
I was very curious and looked to see if there is something in the rules that details this situation, and I found it, at least on the platform I use:

➔ In the case where there is an overruling of a match result by the organizer due to unforeseen circumstances -
such as cheating - all bets on that match will be voided.

Source: Duelbits

So, the bets will be voided, but I don't what happens if the users already did a withdraw for example, pretty hard to deal with this situation, since the campanies and the users are not guilty in this case

Damn, whichever the decision goes there is a party that will be mad not just at the platform. The cheat seem effective since they won, they just however were caught though.  
While the Tundra team celebrates, those who bet for Tundra didn't win a thing.

If they have withdrawn I guess they are lucky, I hope the bookmaker will not take away some of his funds when he once again deposits coins to his account. Because I think they will. Its a money loss from them if they allow it.

[crwth]

Hmm. Definitely something to discuss about with what happened. Taking advantage of that during pause is something that is unfair and can be taken advantage of. I never thought that they would be doing that at that level but I guess that's just how much they want to win. Maybe they can do something.

[ralle14]

In the sportsbook i've been using, they still haven't changed the results up until now, but if I probably used a different sportsbook, it'd be pushed or settled as void.



I assume most sportsbooks would correct the tickets because that's how they handle it whenever there's an unexpected change in the results. Other bettors can be lucky if the sportsbook doesn't have a rule for these unusual cases, and it might be why my bet is still settled as a win.

[Eternad]

Wow, this is not very common to happen, I particularly never experienced this situation.
I was very curious and looked to see if there is something in the rules that details this situation, and I found it, at least on the platform I use:

➔ In the case where there is an overruling of a match result by the organizer due to unforeseen circumstances -
such as cheating - all bets on that match will be voided.

Source: Duelbits

So, the bets will be voided, but I don't what happens if the users already did a withdraw for example, pretty hard to deal with this situation, since the campanies and the users are not guilty in this case

With this kind of terms, I believe casino will have a hard time dealing with this specific match result since the rule overturned after 24hours which makes every user potentially withdrawn or lose all their bankroll from the profit in that specific bet.

The match of Betboom against Tundra is clearly a win for Betboom. In my opinion, Duelbits might stand on the initial result since the reason for overturning the result is just a very silly livestream that doesn’t affect the gameplay.

[ryzaadit]

Most of the time will be voided.

However, situations like these after the winning are credited. Some of user is already withdraw the money they're winning, (this is just my 2 cent) the casino will trying to cover first. Then, they're gonna hold the user fund/deducted once they fill-up their account again with the money they're deposited.

Off course, this statement is just based of my 2 cent.

[coolcoinz]

I took Rollbit's terms and conditions that applies to this case:

3.5. The winner of an event will be determined on the date of the event’s conclusion. Sportsbook platform does not recognize protests or overturned decisions for betting purposes. The settlement of an event suspended after the start of the competition will be decided according to the betting rules specified for that sport by Sportsbook platform

The above rule is like a double-edge sword as it could cause losses to either bookie or gambler. Rollbit will just take the losses in case they paid more to those who bet on Betloom and those gamblers who bet on Tundra can't do anything about this since it's clearly stated in the betting rules.

I support that ToS rule because the sportsbook platform cannot be responsible for mistakes on the part of the organizer of the event. If the organizer could not find proof of cheating on the day of the game and did not suspend the announcement of the result of the match, they're to blame here, not the casino. It's impossible for the casino to start suing people, demanding they return the money, in case they've already withdrawn. It's better to take the result as given by the company that judged the event.

[Eureka_07]

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What will happen to the losers and winners of that game to the bet?

I can see there are some platforms that already deducted the winning of some person from their balance.
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That would depend on the casino's terms of service (ToS). Some casinos may overlook including it in their terms, but I believe that most are able to specify it. I don't know the exact numbers, but I do agree that once a bet is settled, it shouldn't be changed. However, there's also the aspect of fairness for those who lost due to an unforeseen event. In such cases, it might be better for the bet to be voided, and the bettors should be able to understand the reasons behind why the match has been voided.

[darkangel11]

Hmm. Definitely something to discuss about with what happened. Taking advantage of that during pause is something that is unfair and can be taken advantage of. I never thought that they would be doing that at that level but I guess that's just how much they want to win. Maybe they can do something.

You can find youtube videos with players found cheating in live tournaments. I remember that one guy had an aimbot encoded into the flash memory of his mouse. People will do anything to win, but in many of these cases they can cause a lot of problems not only to themselves but also their teammates. Basically they lose everything in that single stupid move: position, money, contract, recognition, fans, friends...

To answer the OP's question, if you're lucky and manage to withdraw, the money's yours, but most casinos will roll it back and take the win if they can in such case.

[Woodie]

I dont understand why Pure had to see a live stream while he was still competing, and funny thing he knows very well that the game room they were in is full of camera's..just a clumsy decision from him to be honest!!

As for the results,  well results are Based on final score and not technical results..I can only imagine having won such a bet and only to come back to see your balance is less than expected or in the negative...but i believe sportsbooks will settle it  as it was the first time not based on amended results.

[dunfida]

My question here is, what will happen to gambling platforms who already settled the bets?
Should they revert back to the winnings and losses of their users? What will happen to the losers and winners of that game to the bet?

I can see there are some platforms that already deducted the winning of some person from their balance.

For sure they would really be asking out for those funds to be back but unlikely that all of those amounts wouldnt really be that given back because players or to those who do win would definitely
be considered it to be their win and wont really be tending to give those amounts back on their account. This is why bookies would really be trying out to compensate to those
losers who do became winners suddenly but i dont actually know on what would be the set up for this one but this would really be most likely on having no patch ups for winning the game.
Most winners would have already made out their withdrawals on that time.

That would depend on the casino's terms of service (ToS). Some casinos may overlook including it in their terms, but I believe that most are able to specify it. I don't know the exact numbers, but I do agree that once a bet is settled, it shouldn't be changed. However, there's also the aspect of fairness for those who lost due to an unforeseen event. In such cases, it might be better for the bet to be voided, and the bettors should be able to understand the reasons behind why the match has been voided.

Yes, it would really be totally depending or according into their Terms and conditions on what would be their approach for this because if they would really be having need to pay up those
winners because of these match up huge changes then it would really be a big expense for them.Its true that if you do win then make up some withdrawals
then you are that indeed lucky.

[Wakate]

Stake.com voided the bet . That would be followed by all other decent sportsbooks

If its stated on their rules then this option is more possible.
Cheating can happen in sports and the league might change their decision alter on because of this and I'm sure the site are more prepared with regards to this one. Better to contact the support of the site and ask for clarification and what will happen to their bets since the result changed after cheating. I'm looking for a specific clause with regards to this one, so far I didn't see any specific rules for this.

Honestly this look confusing because I still don't get why they decided to revert the result to lose when some persons would have cash out there winning and go there separate ways. Some winners might like not have cash out there winnings which will finally lead to a lose and can bring regret. If the result is reverted, what will be the fate of the people that have concluded that they'll lose and had taken there mind from the game. What will also be the fate of those that had cash out there profits coming to see that they will have to return the fund back to the casino. This might cause a big problem and more loses.

[FatFork]

I believe that in situations like this, most casinos have provisions to void bets, and these should be clearly defined in their terms and conditions. As for what happens if they have already paid out your winnings, I cannot say from personal experience since I've never been in that predicament. However, I assume that if the balance becomes negative, the corresponding amount will be deducted from the user's next deposit. It's not an ideal situation by any means, but it seems like you don't really have much choice if you want to continue using that platform. Creating a new account would likely violate the casino's terms of use, putting you at risk of having your account blocked and your funds confiscated.

[dezoel]

I took Rollbit's terms and conditions that applies to this case:

3.5. The winner of an event will be determined on the date of the event’s conclusion. Sportsbook platform does not recognize protests or overturned decisions for betting purposes. The settlement of an event suspended after the start of the competition will be decided according to the betting rules specified for that sport by Sportsbook platform

The above rule is like a double-edge sword as it could cause losses to either bookie or gambler. Rollbit will just take the losses in case they paid more to those who bet on Betloom and those gamblers who bet on Tundra can't do anything about this since it's clearly stated in the betting rules.

I guess it would be better for a casino to take the losses, at least players will stay on the platform and continue to gamble... if a casino deducts the winnings and some players have a negative balance they will just move to some other casino.

That's what I was thinking, those who have no balance in their accounts when the result was inverted will have a negative balance and those who have balance will see it getting deducted but both of them will be mad and won't like it because it's not their fault at all if the event organizers couldn't manage things well and the winning team was declared loser later on, I know it's not the fault of those who chose the other side but it's what it is.

Most casinos platform would not take any action in my opinion since the bets and balances have already been settled and things will get bad if they deduct the balances of the previous winners and give them to the new winners after the change of the results have been announced.

[jrrsparkles]

This is from eSport Dota 2 game that happened 24 hours ago.

Though no official reason was given, BetBoom’s Ivan “Pure” Moskalenko was found out to be alt-tabbing during a paused game, pulling up another stream — reportedly Aleksandr “Nix” Levin’s, who was broadcasting the Bali Major.

- Read more here

BetBoom Vs Tundra = Winner yesterday is Betboom
After 24 hours, they defaulted to a loss for Betboom.

I think the reason is one of the players of BetBoom was caught cheating, but the game already settled in most gambling platforms.

My question here is, what will happen to gambling platforms who already settled the bets?
Should they revert back to the winnings and losses of their users? What will happen to the losers and winners of that game to the bet?

I can see there are some platforms that already deducted the winning of some person from their balance.

Cancelling the bet event seems the favourable solution for both users as well as the casino so no one is going to lose, obviously the casino will take considerably hit if they already paid the event but still they can reverse the winning and only accounts with zero balance could be a complete loss for casino if the user never deposit any money there.

[Fatunad]

I believe that in situations like this, most casinos have provisions to void bets, and these should be clearly defined in their terms and conditions. As for what happens if they have already paid out your winnings, I cannot say from personal experience since I've never been in that predicament. However, I assume that if the balance becomes negative, the corresponding amount will be deducted from the user's next deposit. It's not an ideal situation by any means, but it seems like you don't really have much choice if you want to continue using that platform. Creating a new account would likely violate the casino's terms of use, putting you at risk of having your account blocked and your funds confiscated.

If they would really be making out that negative into their balances and would really be just having that kind of deduction on next time users deposit then it wouldnt really be that much effective since they could just simply make out some new account.

Ip address related? They could simply make use of VPN
Still hesitated? They could really just simply find out another place to bet on.

Whether they do like it or not, there would be no bettors or users who had be able to get those winnings will really be giving back those win back into their accounts.This is why i do agree on some
points above that they would really be just ending up on patching up those amounts and considered to be a total loss of their revenue.

[QueenVera]

There are supposed to be profits as well as losses  in a business  and the casino isn't exempted  on this losses.
Rather than wanting to deduct this winnings which is already settled, why not count it as loss and if the casino can easily just temper with my betting balance without getting permissions from me then, I wouldn't have to see them or consider them as trustworthy because every civilized person is supposed to follow due process and not just temper with a winning that was already settled to me.

If they already making withdrawals from accounts with available balance,  then what happens to those accounts that the withdrawal  has already been made ?

[alegotardo]

My question here is, what will happen to gambling platforms who already settled the bets?
Should they revert back to the winnings and losses of their users? What will happen to the losers and winners of that game to the bet?

This is a very delicate case that is handled individually by each bookmaker.

First, you need to see what the site's TOS says, it usually has information (everyone should have) about how this is handled, especially about the deadline they consider for this correction.

Second, it is necessary to check if the sites have some "grace" time that prevents players from withdrawing their funds after the announcement of the initial result, as it would be very complicated to rectify the winners if they have already received and withdrawn their prizes.

Certainly the most correct thing is to correct the result according to the official information, but this will not always be possible.