Game Winner Result Changed After 24 hours (Defaulted)

[Slow death]

I understand that each casino has the right to put its own TOS, but cases like this should not be annulled, in my opinion when a game for example has 90 minutes and after the 90 minutes pass and the game ends, and there is a winner then the event has already ended, if hours later it is discovered that the game had some cheating it will no longer make any sense for the casino to void the bets because it was not the fault of the people who placed bets on the game so they cannot be penalized for an error that did not commit, and it is very different from a case in which during the game it is verified that there is cheating and they stop the game and in this case they cancel the game, in this case it makes perfect sense to cancel the game and return the money of all the people who made it bets

because let's imagine the following: a team A plays 5 games and wins in all games, so it is at the top of the league, but 2 weeks later the league regulators discover that in the 5 games in which team A won they cheated to win, so the casinos are going to cancel the 5 games and take people's winnings? so it won't make any sense to annul games that have already ended, whoever won keeps the winnings because it's not their fault, in my opinion. I know that casinos have their rules and I respect them, but I think that the most logical thing in these cases is that nothing is canceled hours or days after the game is over.

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[baba2020]

i did a complaint to BC Casino aswell and my bets were csncelled, anything one Else here? i dont know If void IS the right result or Tundras victory.

[rdluffy]

If they have withdrawn I guess they are lucky, I hope the bookmaker will not take away some of his funds when he once again deposits coins to his account. Because I think they will. Its a money loss from them if they allow it.

Have you ever seen a situation where this happened? I don't recall ever seeing any bookmaker charge an amount in this way.
Maybe the betting company takes the loss in that situation.

With this kind of terms, I believe casino will have a hard time dealing with this specific match result since the rule overturned after 24hours which makes every user potentially withdrawn or lose all their bankroll from the profit in that specific bet.

The match of Betboom against Tundra is clearly a win for Betboom. In my opinion, Duelbits might stand on the initial result since the reason for overturning the result is just a very silly livestream that doesn’t affect the gameplay.

It is a very complicated issue, and I can understand both sides, the companies and the bettors.
It is clear in the rules that if the results are changed by the organizers in cheating situations, the betting company can cancel the bets, but the issue that 24 hours have passed is complicated
Maybe each case is analyzed individually


The closest I have ever seen to this situation is in soccer, where several players participated in actions that interfered with the results. But they only found out a few months later, making it impossible to take any action.

[fullhdpixel]

In football, I remember there were few matches like that. I remember one in the past that the winner was later said to be the loser. What I thought was that the bet has been decided when immediately the match finished and nothing will alter that. We have different gambling sites with some changes in their terms of service, maybe some gambling site may include it that if the match was later cancelled and to be replayed if the loser was later declared the winner, that they will deducted the money from their customers and settle people thought to be the loser, but I do not think that is how it works on gambling sites. Once a match is finished, the bet is settled without exception. If the match result is later altered after the match has finished, non of the gambling site business.

Gamblers who have lost the match might start questioning and asking the sportsbook to give them a refund since the team they had their bets on didn't actually lose but it was declared the loser by mistake, but I don't really think that the sportsbook would give any refund or deduct the balance of those gamblers who managed to win because that will surely affect their system and a lot of people might even stop using that sportsbook for future.

So the most likely scenario for a sportsbook's reaction after something like that would be that they wouldn't do anything and just keep things the way they are because the bets have already been settled and undoing that would make a lot of gamblers mad and might result in them losing some loyal gamblers.

[Yatsan]

Would depend on the terms of the gambling site I guess. But technically, match winner should still be the bottomline so if there are changes with it, then same thing should go with the winning bet. However this would be hard to execute such that winners before the changes could have pulled out their funds already and a platform cannot do something about it such as pushing them do return the money 'coz in the first place this should be a matter between the league and the gambling site regarding their partnership. If fault would be more of the provider then ofcourse burden should be into it.

[AbuBhakar]

i did a complaint to BC Casino aswell and my bets were csncelled, anything one Else here? i dont know If void IS the right result or Tundras victory.

Check the casino ToS on how they handle overturn result on matches that announces winner a couple hours or more after bet settled. Void matches or the result is as is based on the initial result are the two most common outcome on bets like this. Tundra doesn’t win on the actual match since BB 2-0 them. The result is just overturned due to viaolation which found out after the game and not during the game.

Do you bet on Tundra? Because you are lucky that your bet is just cancelled since other casino doesn't change the initial result if the decision is made after 24hrs after bet settled.

[Blitzboy]

eSports' reputation has been damaged by this episode, and betting platforms' accountability is in question. The answer to your inquiry isnt simple. If a gaming platform has settled bets, reversing the transactions would be logistically and ethically difficult. Additionally, it would need to consider the potential blowback from users who had withdrawn or spent their prizes.

Reversing transactions could cause user confusion and unrest. The "winners" would be outraged at their abrupt "loss," while the "losers" may see it as a second chance. Practical limits and user emotion must be considered when deciding whether platforms should promote fairness and justice. Platform TOS and regulatory environments will determine the course of action

[goaldigger]

eSports' reputation has been damaged by this episode, and betting platforms' accountability is in question. The answer to your inquiry isnt simple. If a gaming platform has settled bets, reversing the transactions would be logistically and ethically difficult. Additionally, it would need to consider the potential blowback from users who had withdrawn or spent their prizes.

Reversing transactions could cause user confusion and unrest. The "winners" would be outraged at their abrupt "loss," while the "losers" may see it as a second chance. Practical limits and user emotion must be considered when deciding whether platforms should promote fairness and justice. Platform TOS and regulatory environments will determine the course of action

If there’s a firm ToS, the site can easily get back the reward but of course it will create panic as many already enjoys their winnings. This incident is indeed unacceptable and can ruin the reputation of the sports. The site will surely create a more clear statement or rules with regards to this one, and that we should be more aware of this especially if you’re into esports as the result can be changed once the winning team get caught for cheating.

[stomachgrowls]

eSports' reputation has been damaged by this episode, and betting platforms' accountability is in question. The answer to your inquiry isnt simple. If a gaming platform has settled bets, reversing the transactions would be logistically and ethically difficult. Additionally, it would need to consider the potential blowback from users who had withdrawn or spent their prizes.

Reversing transactions could cause user confusion and unrest. The "winners" would be outraged at their abrupt "loss," while the "losers" may see it as a second chance. Practical limits and user emotion must be considered when deciding whether platforms should promote fairness and justice. Platform TOS and regulatory environments will determine the course of action

If there’s a firm ToS, the site can easily get back the reward but of course it will create panic as many already enjoys their winnings. This incident is indeed unacceptable and can ruin the reputation of the sports. The site will surely create a more clear statement or rules with regards to this one, and that we should be more aware of this especially if you’re into esports as the result can be changed once the winning team get caught for cheating.

Dont know if there are already created some terms and conditions in related into this kind of condition on which there's sudden decision about revoking that win because of an specific condition or issue which it would really

be no possible that the site or platform would really be taking those winnings back considering that most of those bettors had made out some withdrawal of those winnings which it would be understandable.
Now they would really be needing to pay double considering that those losers becomes winners on which they would really be sued out such thing. This is why there's no clarification on how they would
really be able to handle up such situation which it would really be that hard about having this default situation.

Considered losses? Most likely the case but we know that they could be able to patch it up in no time.

[Wexnident]

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I think there are a lot of instances that can be used as an example here? Especially in csgo, where on the top of my head there are probably at least 2 or 3 tournaments where someone was caught cheating (afaik though, some were caught live and not AFTER the game).

Afaik though the bet should either be considered void or as is, after all the result was changed hours after the game itself, most likely as is though, considering that after 24hrs a lot of money could've changed hands (or been spent) already, and tackling it one at a time to "ask" players to return it is never going to work, since in the first place, it's a LOT to work on.

[qwertyup23]

this information is reported in the relative TOS of the individual gambling sites.
of course mostly, if not all gambling sites will have the most compliant terms with their interests...

when this happens in traditional sports (and traditional bookmakers) the funds are withdrawn from the accounts or basically frozen the account.

In case they suspect that a user has defrauded (and was therefore aware of the fraud) they can also proceed with legal action. with crypto bookmaker it's something different, but in case funds are not withdrawn they can just seize ...

I agree with your statement.

I think this kind of situation can be answered depending on the TOS of each respective gambling websites. If they stipulate that once a winner has been declared, regardless of any future protest against it, then it would not refund and declare the other team as a winner.

Though this kind of situation contemplates cheating, it is wholly dependent on the gambling platform's TOS that will dictate the answer to this question. But personally, if a team has been declared a winner but subsequently they were caught cheating, the winnings should be void and the gambling platform must refund the amount in favour of the new winning team.

[Peanutswar]

I've experience this before that there's some issue it's seems like Frankfurt Major in that time I can't remember what tournaments name but that game the providers makes their bet to their wallets so there's no bet really happen. If the management of the game decided the winner and still the game is currently running on the platform they will consider those as match winners.
In some point could be included in the ToS of the platform they already known this instances could happen so already included in here.