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August 07, 2023, 07:21:37 AM
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What do you think about Vertical Farming, do you agree that it is the future of farming really?

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Vertical farming is a truly extraordinary innovation, just imagine that in an area of 5 meters you can produce 4x as much agricultural output or more depending on how many layers of levels you make, so far vertical farming innovations have really helped people who like farming in urban areas who are already densely populated.

but it takes extra work to be able to develop vertical farming and the technology used is not like ordinary farming, farmers must upgrade their knowledge about the best way to look after plants that are built on vertical farming land, apart from vertical farming, hydroponic farming is also is good innovation, in my city there are many farmers who develop hydroponic farming and make good money every time they harvest (depending on what type of plants they plant)

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August 07, 2023, 07:43:19 AM
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honestly I think about this so many time, I think so many various technique to maximize the land utilization. there are some plant that only need certain amount of light. vertical farming maybe the solution keep the food supply enough. actually I think about vertical farm for azolla, which we can use it as food for chicken. Azolla is very short plant which need many sun light, but if we can layer it in many number then we can produce many of it. the problem is the light, I don't know how to provide cheap light for it. If we can do this then we can increase the production of chicken meat.

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August 07, 2023, 08:30:53 AM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

In vertical farming, Plants are grown in stacked layers under controlled conditions like green house farming.
In vertical farming,
urbanization has become a tradition for people around the world who want to change their fate in urban areas, the more people there are in urban areas, the less available vacant land will be. Agricultural space is still very wide in rural areas, people in urban areas can bring organic food from agricultural products in rural areas.
The community's economy will increase when the demand for organic food increases, farmers are increasingly active in growing crops that can be consumed as staple food. Vertical Agriculture will never be able to achieve the targets needed by people in urban areas, it needs a supply of organic food reserves that must be imported from the countryside or even the government must adopt a policy of importing food from other countries.

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August 07, 2023, 05:26:37 PM
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Vertical farming could be a reality right now, but I don't know the reason why it's still not happening in large scale. There could be whole twenty floors buildings producing food in real time on its walled sides, fully automatized. Imagine how cheap food could be if this method were heavily implemented on the big urban centers.

Maybe it's just that our societies don't see an urgency on adopting this. Traditional farming methods must be being enough for almost 8 billion people in the world yet. Who know once we reach 16 billion or so the approach regards farming methods start changing.

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August 08, 2023, 02:14:01 PM
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In my country the farming conditions are very sad because now a lot of agricultural products are imported, this is because my country has the ambition to become an industrial country so that a lot of agricultural land has changed into settlements, industrial areas and so on, of course this makes food prices more expensive.


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August 08, 2023, 02:26:46 PM
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It's sad to see what used to be an exporting country and now an importing country, agricultural land is getting narrower coupled with human resources who are less enthusiastic about farming, especially for young people, because they think farming is not a cool job. therefore, with the development of technology, in terms of production, the government should encourage agricultural technology that can increase production even though agricultural land is decreasing. or in my country where large areas can open up land for the development of agricultural areas
Some people still only consider their prestige in life so they don't want to work on existing agricultural land and there are even some people who are willing to sell agricultural land to buy other buildings that they don't use to make any production. That is why several exporting countries have previously become importing countries at this point and I am not at all surprised by this because now most people prefer to work in a relaxed manner without wanting to work harder due to the prestige being considered.
Yes, this is what happened in my country Indonesia. I am the son of a farmer. And being a farmer is very hard, having to work under the scorching heat every day is tough, and it's impossible for today's youth to be like that. Not to mention when the harvest price of rice immediately fell. Oh shit!! Farmers are really national heroes but there is no appreciation in my country.

It seems that regeneration has been wrongly taught since the beginning of school. like in school teachers motivate their students more so that one day they can get a decent job like in an elite office or pursue their goals, actually there's nothing wrong either. It's just that it's very unfortunate that in an agricultural country with fertile soil, teachers ignore the importance of knowledge about agriculture, so that makes them not interested in becoming people who are aware of the future of food in Indonesia. yes, hopefully there is an elegant solution that can solve problems like this in every country so that agriculture is indeed the future of all mankind.

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August 08, 2023, 09:49:32 PM
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In our formal farming systems, we used our physical energy and power to work in our farm land, but these days we all rely on chemicals substance that why we can no longer manage our farm land and that is why we need physical energy. The reason why land is getting less in fatal in teams of production is because when the reproduction is more than two to three teams in a particular piece of land the manual of the land will be very weak in sense that the seed will not germinate very well.
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August 08, 2023, 10:11:34 PM
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In our formal farming systems, we used our physical energy and power to work in our farm land, but these days we all rely on chemicals substance that why we can no longer manage our farm land and that is why we need physical energy. The reason why land is getting less in fatal in teams of production is because when the reproduction is more than two to three teams in a particular piece of land the manual of the land will be very weak in sense that the seed will not germinate very well.

You sort of contradicted yourself at the end of your post. At the beginning you condemned the use of chemicals on land or farm and at the end you identified that not rotating farm is responsible for low harvest. Therein is the issue of chemicals and why it is important to help farm products to grow faster. If fertilizer is applied in a particular land during cultivation and fertilizer is not applied in the second farm, the former will grow faster and produce good fruit. Chemicals are used to support farm and that will help to increase the quantity of farm produce.
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August 09, 2023, 10:19:31 PM
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In my country the farming conditions are very sad because now a lot of agricultural products are imported, this is because my country has the ambition to become an industrial country so that a lot of agricultural land has changed into settlements, industrial areas and so on, of course this makes food prices more expensive.

Every country is also facing the same challenge the cost of venturing into agriculture is actually very expensive and so many factors affecting the production of food every country with there own factors like mine now it is about cost and then insecurity, even flood destroyed a lot of crops and with all these factors contributed to food shortage and I see a lot of people making a suggestion about vertical farming and another great improvement in agriculture, without food there will no anyone surviving and the problem I have with this future farming is a too much-improved seed.

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August 11, 2023, 04:32:24 AM
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It's sad to see what used to be an exporting country and now an importing country, agricultural land is getting narrower coupled with human resources who are less enthusiastic about farming, especially for young people, because they think farming is not a cool job. therefore, with the development of technology, in terms of production, the government should encourage agricultural technology that can increase production even though agricultural land is decreasing. or in my country where large areas can open up land for the development of agricultural areas
It's really unfortunate that something like this could happen to a country that used to be an exporter, now it's becoming an importer. Maybe there needs to be an effort from the government to develop young people in agriculture, if someone thinks farming is not a cool job then that's wrong, in my opinion now farming using sophisticated technology is very different from before.
the main factor that must be addressed is a cleaner government so that people can think about the importance of human resources, therefore even though they are blessed with abundant natural resources, if they do not have good human resources, then it will be in vain. to make a better government is not easy because there are politicians who are sometimes more selfish or group concerned, so this can hinder the development of a country
Changing things that have become habits is not an easy thing, we have to start from the smallest scope first, like we have to teach our children first. Selfish politicians can influence the field of government, but with efforts to change the next generation for the better, maybe we can see more honest politicians in the future.
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August 11, 2023, 01:18:00 PM
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It's sad to see what used to be an exporting country and now an importing country, agricultural land is getting narrower coupled with human resources who are less enthusiastic about farming, especially for young people, because they think farming is not a cool job. therefore, with the development of technology, in terms of production, the government should encourage agricultural technology that can increase production even though agricultural land is decreasing. or in my country where large areas can open up land for the development of agricultural areas
It's really unfortunate that something like this could happen to a country that used to be an exporter, now it's becoming an importer. Maybe there needs to be an effort from the government to develop young people in agriculture, if someone thinks farming is not a cool job then that's wrong, in my opinion now farming using sophisticated technology is very different from before.
the main factor that must be addressed is a cleaner government so that people can think about the importance of human resources, therefore even though they are blessed with abundant natural resources, if they do not have good human resources, then it will be in vain. to make a better government is not easy because there are politicians who are sometimes more selfish or group concerned, so this can hinder the development of a country
Changing things that have become habits is not an easy thing, we have to start from the smallest scope first, like we have to teach our children first. Selfish politicians can influence the field of government, but with efforts to change the next generation for the better, maybe we can see more honest politicians in the future.
And I agree, we can start with ourselves and our family. If we want better and more honest politicians then let us start raising our kids like that, more so we can teach our kids to know who to vote and to do it selflessly for the country. Every change we want to see should start within the comfort of ourselves and our homes. Start small then those small changes will contribute to a bigger change and setting. Sooner or later we'll see these changes take effect, maybe not for us but for the future generation.

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August 11, 2023, 02:58:34 PM
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Vertical farming is a truly extraordinary innovation, just imagine that in an area of 5 meters you can produce 4x as much agricultural output or more depending on how many layers of levels you make, so far vertical farming innovations have really helped people who like farming in urban areas who are already densely populated.
So far, vertical farming is very suitable in urban areas because of limited land. Because of the perceived benefits of this Innovation besides using less land it also uses less water. Because if we talk about water, this vertical farming innovation reuses water and nutrients so it doesn't produce excessive waste.

Another advantage of this innovation method can also reduce air pollution because it can be done in urban areas, meaning there is no need for trucks to transport crops over long distances. Pesticides are also unnecessary for vertical farming as vertical farms tend to be indoors, which is a pest free and weather resistant environment. The two distinct advantages of this Innovation are better air quality, fresher vegetables and less greenhouse gas emissions. But of all these advantages, the best thing is that this innovation capability is more measurable compared to agriculture in general. But so far, this innovation is not suitable to be applied where I live because I live in a village where the land for gardening is still very large.

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August 11, 2023, 03:26:09 PM
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It's sad to see what used to be an exporting country and now an importing country, agricultural land is getting narrower coupled with human resources who are less enthusiastic about farming, especially for young people, because they think farming is not a cool job. therefore, with the development of technology, in terms of production, the government should encourage agricultural technology that can increase production even though agricultural land is decreasing. or in my country where large areas can open up land for the development of agricultural areas
It's really unfortunate that something like this could happen to a country that used to be an exporter, now it's becoming an importer. Maybe there needs to be an effort from the government to develop young people in agriculture, if someone thinks farming is not a cool job then that's wrong, in my opinion now farming using sophisticated technology is very different from before.
the main factor that must be addressed is a cleaner government so that people can think about the importance of human resources, therefore even though they are blessed with abundant natural resources, if they do not have good human resources, then it will be in vain. to make a better government is not easy because there are politicians who are sometimes more selfish or group concerned, so this can hinder the development of a country
Changing things that have become habits is not an easy thing, we have to start from the smallest scope first, like we have to teach our children first. Selfish politicians can influence the field of government, but with efforts to change the next generation for the better, maybe we can see more honest politicians in the future.
And I agree, we can start with ourselves and our family. If we want better and more honest politicians then let us start raising our kids like that, more so we can teach our kids to know who to vote and to do it selflessly for the country. Every change we want to see should start within the comfort of ourselves and our homes. Start small then those small changes will contribute to a bigger change and setting. Sooner or later we'll see these changes take effect, maybe not for us but for the future generation.

I can recall when I was young, our generation really saw those vote-buying tactics and the way those politicians tried to persuade our parents to vote them by giving food and money, which at first we thought were really good and our parents were happy, which is why they were voting them, but as time went on and we were able to understand how corrupt and bad those politicians were, and that vote-buying was somewhat not working right now as people got smarter, but still there were people who voted them because of money, but if we were just made aware of those things and not easily persuaded by those politicians, we would be electing a politician that is good.
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August 11, 2023, 04:07:16 PM
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In our formal farming systems, we used our physical energy and power to work in our farm land, but these days we all rely on chemicals substance that why we can no longer manage our farm land and that is why we need physical energy. The reason why land is getting less in fatal in teams of production is because when the reproduction is more than two to three teams in a particular piece of land the manual of the land will be very weak in sense that the seed will not germinate very well.
And when you already know that with these two or three teams, the soil can have weaknesses that can impact seed growth. You should also have found a better solution for this or you can simply revert to the old method when the yields were very high. Because now there are a lot of agricultural tools and part of it is to help farmers not to exert excessive physical effort, so besides you have to consider the problem of growing your own plant seeds, you also have to look at tools that can make you lighter in using your own power for it.

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August 11, 2023, 06:22:58 PM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

In vertical farming, Plants are grown in stacked layers under controlled conditions like green house farming.
In vertical farming,
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Ensures Consistent Crop Production
One of the biggest benefits of vertical arming lies in the fact that it is extremely reliable. That means, when you opt for vertical farming, you can be assured of getting consistent crop production throughout the year. This is further made possible because vertical farming doesn’t usually rely on the weather, allowing you to cultivate crops without having to get worked up about adverse weather conditions.
Uses Space Optimally
Reduces Usage of Water
One of the biggest perks of vertical farming lies in the fact that it follows a Hydroponic growing process whereby only 10% of the water is used. This mode of farming also uses fewer fertilizers and nutrients when compared to conventional methods. Since the water is completely clean even after usage, it can be duly reused thereby reducing the total cost and cutting down on waste.
Cuts Down on Transport Cost
You can always choose to grow crops in an area where your customer lives thereby reducing transportation costs, carbon dioxide emissions, and the constant need for refrigerating your produce. At the end of the day, this not only contributes to the freshness of your products but also makes them incredibly profitable.
Doesn’t Involve Chemicals or Pesticides
When you grow food on a vertical farm, you have the chance of completely cutting down on the need to invest in pesticides. That is because your farming is practiced in a controlled environment that prohibits the entry of pests.
Limits Occupational Hazards
With indoor farming in place, no farmer is exposed to the hazards associated with using heavy farming gear. They are also well-protected from a range of ailments like malaria, issues from harmful chemicals, and the likes of it.Since this mode of farming does not affect trees and animals around inland zones, it is also an excellent way to promote biodiversity.
Larger Produce
Probably the biggest benefit of vertical farming is the fact that it helps produce more crops in general. As we already know, this mode of farming enables cultivars to produce crops consistently in a small area. Interestingly, it also boosts the amount of produce.
What do you think about Vertical Farming, do you agree that it is the future of farming really?

https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/advantages-disadvantages-vertical-farming.php

Farming is an essential means of survival in our different countries with which the world wide is dependent on, it also is a stimulator of production by cultivating crops and raising livestocks.
But recently in our different rural areas there seem to be very poor and ineffective means if farming as lands meant for farming are being used for infrastructural buildings and developments which is affecting the farming production process.
Farming contributes to the Production of food and raw materials, which in turn can stimulate the economic growth and development,do I'll advise dat those land spaces are being reserved for their purpose.
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August 13, 2023, 10:56:11 AM
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If we want to make a business then the best thing is in agriculture, the price of agricultural materials which continues to increase is a good opportunity that the future of agricultural products will always increase, moreover more and more agricultural land is lost or changing its function so that opportunities and competition in agriculture are very promising .


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August 13, 2023, 03:34:26 PM
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If we want to make a business then the best thing is in agriculture, the price of agricultural materials which continues to increase is a good opportunity that the future of agricultural products will always increase, moreover more and more agricultural land is lost or changing its function so that opportunities and competition in agriculture are very promising .
It's true, the agricultural sector is always needed to support human life in terms of food, especially now that agricultural land is getting narrower along with the need for housing. and of course the need for human food cannot be avoided, therefore the defense sector is increasingly important, and must increase in terms of quality and quantity, in line with the increasingly advanced human mindset in terms of hygiene and the increasing number of people

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August 14, 2023, 11:51:44 AM
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If we want to make a business then the best thing is in agriculture, the price of agricultural materials which continues to increase is a good opportunity that the future of agricultural products will always increase, moreover more and more agricultural land is lost or changing its function so that opportunities and competition in agriculture are very promising .
Investing in agriculture will indeed be very profitable if we can manage it properly. If it is said that there is less and less agricultural land that can be used for farming, maybe this has not happened where I live. because there is still a lot of land that has not been used for farming, maybe there is a lack of awareness among the people that farming can also be very profitable for them.
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August 14, 2023, 12:17:38 PM
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If we want to make a business then the best thing is in agriculture, the price of agricultural materials which continues to increase is a good opportunity that the future of agricultural products will always increase, moreover more and more agricultural land is lost or changing its function so that opportunities and competition in agriculture are very promising .
It's true, the agricultural sector is always needed to support human life in terms of food, especially now that agricultural land is getting narrower along with the need for housing. and of course the need for human food cannot be avoided, therefore the defense sector is increasingly important, and must increase in terms of quality and quantity, in line with the increasingly advanced human mindset in terms of hygiene and the increasing number of people

That is really the problem because people also need housing, and we know that the agricultural sector before turned into housing as most of the farmers sold it off because it got too expensive to plant crops. We should really support the agricultural sector mostly right now that those fertilizers are getting expensive and the price right now is also too high when buying raw foods, and the biggest problem is that those farmers are mostly not getting any profit as they sell it off cheap but when it arrives in the market it gets expensive.
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August 14, 2023, 12:22:48 PM
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If we want to make a business then the best thing is in agriculture, the price of agricultural materials which continues to increase is a good opportunity that the future of agricultural products will always increase, moreover more and more agricultural land is lost or changing its function so that opportunities and competition in agriculture are very promising .
It's true, the agricultural sector is always needed to support human life in terms of food, especially now that agricultural land is getting narrower along with the need for housing. and of course the need for human food cannot be avoided, therefore the defense sector is increasingly important, and must increase in terms of quality and quantity, in line with the increasingly advanced human mindset in terms of hygiene and the increasing number of people

That is really the problem because people also need housing, and we know that the agricultural sector before turned into housing as most of the farmers sold it off because it got too expensive to plant crops. We should really support the agricultural sector mostly right now that those fertilizers are getting expensive and the price right now is also too high when buying raw foods, and the biggest problem is that those farmers are mostly not getting any profit as they sell it off cheap but when it arrives in the market it gets expensive.
The welfare of farmers is indeed often ignored by the government of a country, in fact the purchase price of agricultural products is also regulated by government policies, almost no farmers are rich so they seem to cut the ropes of this work for their children in the future.
Problems like this can only be overcome with policies implemented by the government.
But the rest for entrepreneurs in the agricultural sector or farmers is still quite effective to do, it doesn't promise many benefits but I think technically there is almost no risk because agricultural needs are always needed by humans.

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