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October 14, 2023, 12:43:52 AM
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In most of the developing world, there are still large swathes of unused arable land with optimal conditions for farming.

In these areas, it's usually not the land but the costs of production like the price of oil, fertilizer and labor that are limiting production. With better technology to preserve and transport perishable goods, with the help of robots in labor, and with some creative uses of alternative energy sources, I think traditional land based agriculture will see an increase in popularity in the near future...
thats right, there are actually so many lands that can be taken advantage of for farming but setting up one is tremendous effort.
had there any easier way to set up some farm i'm pretty sure people with huge lands but don't have the capability to set up farm will take advantage of it.
but unfortunately there's none.
such thing like multi level building or facilities for agricultural purpose might not be really needed if equipment for farming is affordable.

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October 14, 2023, 05:47:25 AM
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In most of the developing world, there are still large swathes of unused arable land with optimal conditions for farming.

In these areas, it's usually not the land but the costs of production like the price of oil, fertilizer and labor that are limiting production. With better technology to preserve and transport perishable goods, with the help of robots in labor, and with some creative uses of alternative energy sources, I think traditional land based agriculture will see an increase in popularity in the near future...
thats right, there are actually so many lands that can be taken advantage of for farming but setting up one is tremendous effort.
had there any easier way to set up some farm i'm pretty sure people with huge lands but don't have the capability to set up farm will take advantage of it.
but unfortunately there's none.
such thing like multi level building or facilities for agricultural purpose might not be really needed if equipment for farming is affordable.

It's intriguing to observe how various ideas and techniques may come into play when considering farming's future. Vertical farming's ability to save space and use less resources cannot be overstated. It's about finding balance. Perhaps the future rests in a harmonic combination of traditional farming, vertical farming, and other innovative approaches.

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October 14, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
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Land has been one of the factor affecting farming system in my area, in area the want of land has been increasing, no land but we have labourers. And also the sale of land is very expensive so not everyone can afford buying a land, both in rural and urban center suffers from this.
But you didn't mention the major factor affecting agriculture, in my country the major factor affecting agriculture is flooding. This flood comes every year and destroys peoples crop and food and destroys poultry farm, and the sales of food becomes expensive
I know land is one of the factors affecting farming but not for all countries there are still countries that have excessive land just that most of this countries lack proper management of this lands, they fail to give more attention to farming, and look at advance countries they have limited land but still look for other means to farm,  introducing new technologies like vertical farming and many more. And people don't even need much labourers this days when it comes to farming since the world is gradually changing and adopting technology in all sectors. And I don't know for other places but like in my own place you can rent a land to farm for just a small amount of money. Even in my country flood and also bandit so there are a lot of factors affecting farming here. But people are developing new ways to tackle this factors.

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October 14, 2023, 11:17:34 AM
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There are two places to live in anywhere in the world. Either you live in Rural area or you live in Urban area. Now when someone was living in the rural area and moved down to Urban settlement then the place he or she was living at the rural area became vacancy, so occupying one place gives room to open another place. So that of the rural settlement space can be use has farming.
I don't know of other countries, in my locality, there are enough lands to farm but nobody to farm. Specifically, my paternal home town is a ghost town now because urbanization has taken over 99% of the people. So lands full there to farm.

The space does not become vacant because in my opinion whole family does not move towards urban or rural areas. Now a days unity does not exists and everyone is in Struggle to make their own life by building their own house therefore the concept of joined family is no more exist as that was in previous age.

And one more thing is that all parts of lands are not fertilized and smooth so for making it fertilized there must of lots of expensive efforts and also some people don't allow their land for such activity because they are growing crops for their personal use only while they don't permit it for the purpose of exportation.

In previous time the people were hardworking so they work for getting opportunities to grow crops by their own but now people are more interested in getting food by using their money, previously people use power of hardwork but now people do their work with the power of money therefore the remaining land are still barren.









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October 14, 2023, 12:22:53 PM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.


Interesting information - vertical farming looks promising.
In general, I believe that this is an occupation that will always bring money, it will always be necessary because people can do construction, fashion investments, but in the end, food will always be the most important thing. now there is a crisis in the world and we see many signs that it will only worsen over time, local conflicts occur, the economic situation in the world as a whole continues to deteriorate.
Therefore, you need to bet on what has been and will be, and as I said above, there is farming.

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October 14, 2023, 01:13:47 PM
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Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.


Interesting information - vertical farming looks promising.
In general, I believe that this is an occupation that will always bring money, it will always be necessary because people can do construction, fashion investments, but in the end, food will always be the most important thing. now there is a crisis in the world and we see many signs that it will only worsen over time, local conflicts occur, the economic situation in the world as a whole continues to deteriorate.
Therefore, you need to bet on what has been and will be, and as I said above, there is farming.
While this may be true, there are a lot of instances (especially for developing countries) wherein farmers aren't the one getting the majority of the profit but the land owners. In fact, more often than not farmers are left with almost nothing's worth of their hard work but less than enough for their everyday meals. As sad as it may be that's the current reality of most farmers.

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October 14, 2023, 10:41:13 PM
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Here in our country, there is a law that says that when you buy farmland, it is forbidden to turn it into a subdivision or mall in the province. This law is strictly implemented to conserve resources when it comes to food. It's not like before, when anyone who is rich buys hectares of farmland and then just turns it into real estate housing, malls, building businesses, and condominiums.

Because if these businessmen who don't care about the farmers in the fields continue and even destroy the fields, it will affect us. That's why farmers are so important to the farm, actually. And here in our country, all the farmers' debts have been helped by the current administration to pay them off, and they have even been given farmland.

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October 14, 2023, 11:49:54 PM
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The vertical farming that they did is fine somehow, but for me, it's still different from the natural place to plant, like the real farm or the mountains, because it grows naturally.

Here in our country, farming is highly valued because this is where our food resources really come from in the reality that is happening right now. In other countries, the farms have been built by condominiums or by establishments, which is the reason for the rapid flooding in the city that the business sector thought was not possible, but that's what it really is.

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October 15, 2023, 06:33:11 AM
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Yes, it's true, there aren't many agricultural countries, but what is worrying is that many of those who live in agricultural countries still work as farmers, not much attention is being given to the younger generation, even though during this pandemic the sector is very influential, it's just a shame that the government is only looking at This sector is one-sided, there is no significant stimulus from the government in the agricultural sector, fertilizer prices are expensive, and the government does not want to buy the harvest (hold), making it difficult for many farmers to market their harvest. if there are buyers, they buy at prices so low that they don't cover expenses.

Because state leaders do not side with farmers, they cannot control prices and seeds/fertilizers and medicines are handed over to the market so prices are not in favor of farmers. The government should guarantee the facilities provided to farmers and control everything, that way farmers will feel that agriculture has a good future.
The lack of awareness of the younger generation towards the agricultural sector in an agricultural country will be very detrimental because they have large areas of land that can be used in the agricultural sector and this requires efforts to develop the agricultural sector from the government to educate the younger generation so they can take advantage of the opportunities they have.

If the leaders of an agricultural country do not think about the agricultural sector, those who are in leadership have made mistakes and have not thought about their society so that they only get a small profit from their agricultural products.

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The vertical farming that they did is fine somehow, but for me, it's still different from the natural place to plant, like the real farm or the mountains, because it grows naturally.
Different things will definitely happen when some farmers do their work in different ways in the agricultural sector, because what grows naturally will never be the same as plants that grow because they are fertilized by force. Likewise with the quality produced by plants that grow naturally, those that grow vertically or those that are forcibly fertilized, because those that grow naturally will always be better than anything that grows by force.

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Here in our country, farming is highly valued because this is where our food resources really come from in the reality that is happening right now. In other countries, the farms have been built by condominiums or by establishments, which is the reason for the rapid flooding in the city that the business sector thought was not possible, but that's what it really is.
In my country, the agricultural sector is still highly valued because it is a source of food that can be harvested every year. So it will continue to be well maintained and preserved by the respective owners so that it can continue to be used every year, especially if the agricultural land owners are still quite happy to enjoy the results of their own agriculture.

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Big players are killing small players... and import is killing the small farmers, that's how it's been in Serbia for a long time. Once there were many villages and people who worked there on their farms, today we have many dead villages with only a few inhabitants, and they are mostly older than 60-70 years. So I'm not sure where is the future of farming, but I have a feeling that what we are currently buying is not healthy, who knows where it all comes from and where it's grown...

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October 15, 2023, 03:43:34 PM
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Big players are killing small players... and import is killing the small farmers, that's how it's been in Serbia for a long time.
It is a different story in my country. Terrorist are literally killing farmers. And forcing them to abandon their large acres of land. This results is yearly low agricultural output.

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So I'm not sure where is the future of farming, but I have a feeling that what we are currently buying is not healthy, who knows where it all comes from and where it's grown...

Farmers are forced to grow crops in their backyards. And it can only feed a few hundred people compared to the thousands of people it can feed when they transport it all over the country. This is the story in my country. The future of farmer here depends on how much protection that farmers can receive. They are kidnapped, killed and have been forced to partially or completely abandon their occupation.

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October 15, 2023, 03:51:16 PM
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The vertical farming that they did is fine somehow, but for me, it's still different from the natural place to plant, like the real farm or the mountains, because it grows naturally.

Here in our country, farming is highly valued because this is where our food resources really come from in the reality that is happening right now. In other countries, the farms have been built by condominiums or by establishments, which is the reason for the rapid flooding in the city that the business sector thought was not possible, but that's what it really is.

I see many countries developing teams to start small hydroponic setups initially doing a lot of trial and error to determine what type of system works best. This is probably one of the most in-depth discussions I've seen in the entire discourse on the future of agriculture and food production, it's truly astonishing on this scale.

This method of farming has been used for years. Traditional farming done right can rebuild the soil, etc. This is not the end game. Different modes of growth can coexist. I personally like both.

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October 15, 2023, 04:02:29 PM
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The vertical farming that they did is fine somehow, but for me, it's still different from the natural place to plant, like the real farm or the mountains, because it grows naturally.

Here in our country, farming is highly valued because this is where our food resources really come from in the reality that is happening right now. In other countries, the farms have been built by condominiums or by establishments, which is the reason for the rapid flooding in the city that the business sector thought was not possible, but that's what it really is.

I see many countries developing teams to start small hydroponic setups initially doing a lot of trial and error to determine what type of system works best. This is probably one of the most in-depth discussions I've seen in the entire discourse on the future of agriculture and food production, it's truly astonishing on this scale.

This method of farming has been used for years. Traditional farming done right can rebuild the soil, etc. This is not the end game. Different modes of growth can coexist. I personally like both.

I think both should be given the same importance. In many places, both are preferred because it is very difficult to abandon traditional agriculture. For countries with large land areas, there is no point in switching to vertical farming. They need to make the land they use more productive. Agriculture is not valued as much in my country as it used to be. Many of the producers complain and are starting to sell their land due to increasing costs.

Those who engage in agriculture need to be supported by the state. Costs need to be reduced and production needs to increase. It is not a problem to do vertical farming or traditional farming methods, only a solution needs to be found for the increasing costs. Since both methods involve production, my preference would be both methods.

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October 15, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
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Many people believe that farming is their future success. I live in a city which of course is very difficult to get land for farming, I use pots to grow some vegetables, chilies, and others, the more difficult the agricultural land, of course, makes the price of agricultural commodities more expensive so that a country that still has a lot of agricultural land will become a country that prosperous.
The reason for that is the rising demand for real estate and the increase in the prices of land all around the globe. Agriculture requires land, and those who own land that can be used for agriculture ask for a lot of money to sell the land to those willing to use it to harvest vegetables, wheat, rice, and all sorts of things that they can then sell and earn money from. So, just because the prices of land are increasing over time, only those with a lot of money can actually venture into the agricultural businesses.

Scientists, on the other hand, are working on technologies that can be used to harvest plants and vegetables in a way that would produce more products and consume less land, vertical farming is one method that is used to harvest plants in a way that requires less land space and can produce more vegetables than the size of the land available.

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I see many countries developing teams to start small hydroponic setups initially doing a lot of trial and error to determine what type of system works best. This is probably one of the most in-depth discussions I've seen in the entire discourse on the future of agriculture and food production, it's truly astonishing on this scale.

This method of farming has been used for years. Traditional farming done right can rebuild the soil, etc. This is not the end game. Different modes of growth can coexist. I personally like both.
With the application of new method and technologies, everything becomes possible to farming and it's being better and more productive with such application.
I've heard of that method before and I just don't know how many have been testing and trial that for them to see if it's working best on their lands. But that's what should other countries or farmlands do to know if their land is suitable for this method.
Having this method will also give the thought of having a food security for those countries that are reliant to their farmlands.


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October 15, 2023, 07:39:07 PM
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Big players are killing small players... and import is killing the small farmers, that's how it's been in Serbia for a long time.
It is a different story in my country. Terrorist are literally killing farmers. And forcing them to abandon their large acres of land. This results is yearly low agricultural output.

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So I'm not sure where is the future of farming, but I have a feeling that what we are currently buying is not healthy, who knows where it all comes from and where it's grown...

Farmers are forced to grow crops in their backyards. And it can only feed a few hundred people compared to the thousands of people it can feed when they transport it all over the country. This is the story in my country. The future of farmer here depends on how much protection that farmers can receive. They are kidnapped, killed and have been forced to partially or completely abandon their occupation.

By your post history I see you are from Nigeria. Is that true? What you described is totally fucked up situation, many times I saw in the news how some "groups" invade vilages and towns, they kill people and kidnap kids...  in 21st century!

Deep sadness... there is no other way to describe how I feel when I read about things like this. I hope you are safe, as well as your family, and I wish this world was/is a safer place for all of us... I think it could be if it weren't for the cursed money and the cursed desire of individuals to be even richer, no matter what!

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October 15, 2023, 07:48:34 PM
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Big players are killing small players... and import is killing the small farmers, that's how it's been in Serbia for a long time.
It is a different story in my country. Terrorist are literally killing farmers. And forcing them to abandon their large acres of land. This results is yearly low agricultural output.

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So I'm not sure where is the future of farming, but I have a feeling that what we are currently buying is not healthy, who knows where it all comes from and where it's grown...

Farmers are forced to grow crops in their backyards. And it can only feed a few hundred people compared to the thousands of people it can feed when they transport it all over the country. This is the story in my country. The future of farmer here depends on how much protection that farmers can receive. They are kidnapped, killed and have been forced to partially or completely abandon their occupation.

By your post history I see you are from Nigeria. Is that true? What you described is totally fucked up situation, many times I saw in the news how some "groups" invade vilages and towns, they kill people and kidnap kids...  in 21st century!
This is my reality and it is totally fucked up. The results is that food prices have skyrocketed and we have come to accept it.

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Deep sadness... there is no other way to describe how I feel when I read about things like this. I hope you are safe, as well as your family, and I wish this world was/is a safer place for all of us... I think it could be if it weren't for the cursed money and the cursed desire of individuals to be even richer, no matter what!
This is my wish too but if only wishes were horses.

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October 16, 2023, 12:51:45 PM
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There are not many agricultural countries in the world, but the farmers are not prosperous because the selling price and price of fertilizer are set by the government. Indeed, the possibility of losses for entrepreneurs or business actors in the agricultural sector is very small, but this does not allow them to become prosperous.
Moreover, currently the price of fertilizer is increasing and the uncertain climate means that crop yields are no longer guaranteed due to global influences.
They do play an important role in the continuity of human life, almost all of us need farmers to produce vegetables for consumption, but I see the future of agriculture and its actors tending to be stable without any increase.
Yes, I agree with what you say, many young people don't want to become a farmer as a profession. To grow a vegetable or fruit, it takes a very long time, and for farming you also have to have sufficient land and water, besides that, there are also many pests that approach the plants we plant. Irrational fertilizer prices and selling prices when harvesting do not meet the criteria make the younger generation reluctant to take up this profession. Yes, the government should step in to improve the prices of farmers, with the government giving special treatment, I am sure that every country is capable of producing various basic commodities in its own country without having to import them from other countries. And more and more people will become farmers with this special treatment.




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October 16, 2023, 05:23:43 PM
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What do you think about Vertical Farming, do you agree that it is the future of farming really?

https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/advantages-disadvantages-vertical-farming.php

I have attended training on agriculture held by the government in my area, we were taught about the concept of hydroponic and aquaponic farming, I was very enthusiastic about undergoing the training, I have tried it myself with several small racks and the results are quite satisfying, in my opinion the concept of hydroponics and aquaponics is the future of agriculture, especially as the climate in our world is uncertain, land prices are increasing and there are many plant diseases that continue to emerge.



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