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July 09, 2023, 10:27:54 PM
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That's true it's not going to be a battle of the athletes' true potential but drug companies who can enhance the athletes' performance, these athletes will become drug companies' guinea pigs in the end these athletes will suffer from different malfunctions of the bodies because these drug enhancing performance have serious side effects to the body.
This is the most ridiculous idea these organizers can think, anyway the organizer has a bad reputation, I don't think he will contribute to the world of sports by promoting the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
So we will see these athletes being sacrificed only for the benefit of the pharmaceutical companies to profit from the competition. They don't think about the long-term health of the athletes but only think about making a drug that enhances the action of the most effective of all drugs. Meanwhile, if players take work-enhancing drugs, they will become more arrogant because they feel they are super athletes who have higher abilities than other athletes. And in the end, if these work-enhancing drugs work the way the pharmaceutical companies want them to, they can submit them to the government to be used as work-enhancing drugs for soldiers. This will help soldiers to be able to increase their abilities above average.
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July 09, 2023, 10:32:53 PM
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That's true it's not going to be a battle of the athletes' true potential but drug companies who can enhance the athletes' performance, these athletes will become drug companies' guinea pigs in the end these athletes will suffer from different malfunctions of the bodies because these drug enhancing performance have serious side effects to the body.
This is the most ridiculous idea these organizers can think, anyway the organizer has a bad reputation, I don't think he will contribute to the world of sports by promoting the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
So we will see these athletes being sacrificed only for the benefit of the pharmaceutical companies to profit from the competition. They don't think about the long-term health of the athletes but only think about making a drug that enhances the action of the most effective of all drugs. Meanwhile, if players take work-enhancing drugs, they will become more arrogant because they feel they are super athletes who have higher abilities than other athletes. And in the end, if these work-enhancing drugs work the way the pharmaceutical companies want them to, they can submit them to the government to be used as work-enhancing drugs for soldiers. This will help soldiers to be able to increase their abilities above average.

for the group of people who are planning to have this type of sports event, they should think of the impact of these drugs to the athletes in long term. if they will be experimenting on these people, they should know the repercussions of their actions and for those athletes who will subject themselves to these drugs, they should also know what they are getting into.
maybe, as you said, they can do these to soldiers, but it is the same, both parties should acknowledge the impact of what they are doing.

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July 09, 2023, 11:27:15 PM
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Seems dangerous to advance the idea of drug development over just training.   Theres usually a downside or health risk from the various drugs possibly helping performance, putting them forward as ok immediately brings forward the health risks.  So now you have a sport where you win if you increasingly risk your health, the competetiors might be fine with it but expect their family to sue your league for everything its got.    
  At best its a joke, but mostly legal and so insurance will never cover all the risks being opened up.   Its a mad max idea, best take make it as a film instead you will make alot more money imo.

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July 10, 2023, 06:12:44 AM
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the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

This guy must be joking, but I appreciate his idea, because all this hypocrisy around the Olympic sports must end. Let's be honest here.
All Olympic athletes are using doping in one way or another. The athletes from the big and rich nations are using better high quality doping.
That's why USA and China athletes have the most medals on every Olympic games.
Anyway, this news has little to do with the discussions around Gambling, because I don't believe that the bookies would allow betting on these "Enhanced games". I'm sure that the athletes with the bigger "doping budgets" would win all the time.

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July 10, 2023, 06:43:48 AM
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And people still think that the regular Olympics are free from drugs? C'mon man, the athletes still use performance enhancers, but they are smart enough to not get caught. The drugs are not only for D-day but also building their muscles and stuff.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/beijing-winter-olympics/doping-at-the-olympics-the-most-infamous-cases/3546126/

I think this "enhanced game" won't yield good results in records since the best are competing in the regular Olympic games.

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July 10, 2023, 07:06:37 AM
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And people still think that the regular Olympics are free from drugs? C'mon man, the athletes still use performance enhancers, but they are smart enough to not get caught. The drugs are not only for D-day but also building their muscles and stuff.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/beijing-winter-olympics/doping-at-the-olympics-the-most-infamous-cases/3546126/

I think this "enhanced game" won't yield good results in records since the best are competing in the regular Olympic games.

There is always a chance that the participant will get away because as the time goes by, it gets modern and everything is enhanced and improved so that they will not be caught by the organizers of the said event that they are using performance enhancer drugs especially in the games that requires monstrous strengths and agility.

But in this kind of event called enhance game, I guess it will not be as fun and interesting as the regular Olympic because everybody will use PEDs.

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July 10, 2023, 07:47:56 AM
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Im sure it would attract a lot of eyeballs. Im sure everyones pretty curious to find out what the human body is actually capable of and how roided athletes would compare to those who are supposedly clean.
Lifting and endurance related fields would probably get all records broken. I wonder what would happen with games like table tennis etc.
Anyway if they did it, i would pay to see it lol
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July 10, 2023, 07:48:25 AM
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So we will see these athletes being sacrificed only for the benefit of the pharmaceutical companies to profit from the competition. They don't think about the long-term health of the athletes but only think about making a drug that enhances the action of the most effective of all drugs. Meanwhile, if players take work-enhancing drugs, they will become more arrogant because they feel they are super athletes who have higher abilities than other athletes. And in the end, if these work-enhancing drugs work the way the pharmaceutical companies want them to, they can submit them to the government to be used as work-enhancing drugs for soldiers. This will help soldiers to be able to increase their abilities above average.
Yes, making performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) might be viewed as an undertaking driven by financial gain. However, athletes, their trainers, and governing sporting organisations are also responsible for deciding whether to utilize these medications. This is in addition to the pharmaceutical industry. Regarding the worry that athletes can become "arrogant" as a result of using performance-enhancing drugs, it's crucial to keep in mind that character is shaped by more than just performance. Regardless of whether an athlete uses PEDs, arrogance is a possibility. Although they may increase one's physical capabilities, performance enhancers do not change a person's values, thinking, or attitudes. Last but not least, the idea that soldiers might take PEDs is a complicated one. While improving soldiers' skills may seem advantageous, this must be weighed against potential health hazards and ethical issues. A society should think on whether it is acceptable to put people's health at risk for alleged greater societal benefit.

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July 10, 2023, 08:02:58 AM
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This is pretty crazy stuff. We know that in sports, one's own strength is the main key, if one uses external help to make him win, that is tantamount to an empty title. Moreover, using doping where it will have a bad impact on future athletes. If at this event all athletes are allowed to use doping, it means that there are some athletes who are ready to use doping above the reasonable limit in order to beat the others, is the organizer responsible for the impact that will be caused? such as overdose, paralysis, and other side effects? this is not a sport, this is a psychopath.

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July 10, 2023, 08:36:12 AM
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And people still think that the regular Olympics are free from drugs? C'mon man, the athletes still use performance enhancers, but they are smart enough to not get caught. The drugs are not only for D-day but also building their muscles and stuff.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/beijing-winter-olympics/doping-at-the-olympics-the-most-infamous-cases/3546126/

I think this "enhanced game" won't yield good results in records since the best are competing in the regular Olympic games.
Sportsmen usually cheat the Olympic system by using indictable drugs to boost their performance. And this will give them an undue advantage over other athletes. These banned substances will be vital during long races or sports that need some form of endurance and strength. But this enhanced Olympics gives all the athletes the privilege of using these drugs which means that all of them will be on the same page.

But the consequences of this competition on the health of these participants should be considered. The organizers should be ready for drug overdoses that could lead to death during the competition. This competition can also promote the use of drugs in society. People especially the younger generation can become drug users because this competition promotes it. At this time when many nations are fighting the high rate of drug addiction, this competition should never happen. I am glad that the Australian Olympic Committee led by Matt Carroll has criticized this dangerous and destructive competition.

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July 10, 2023, 10:33:27 AM
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So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.

the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.

personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

the video I stumbled upon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h49A-2Zv8dA

some articles about the topic
https://apnews.com/article/australia-olympics-enhanced-games-doping-24462bcf8f1f97125a8234bea5723ff3
https://dotesports.com/general/news/the-enhanced-olympics-where-drugs-are-welcome-sounds-like-its-from-a-dystopian-video-game
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/30/the-enhanced-games-a-drugs-olympics-where-cheaters-can-prosper
It's pretty curious that PEDs are illegal and legally allowed at the same time. I mean, the government bans PED usage but there is an organization in that country that allows people to use PEDs for their competition. It's really funny and at the moment the great legal example of that is a bodybuilding contest called Mr. Olympia.

To be honest, almost everyone uses PEDs today, they try to take an advantage of those compounds that have very short half-life to be undetectable for doping tests. So, while it's true that people may abuse PEDs for that Olympic games, it's also true that modern Olympic games are not fair either. Everyone uses PEDs, so let's make it legal.

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July 10, 2023, 12:26:43 PM
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for the group of people who are planning to have this type of sports event, they should think of the impact of these drugs to the athletes in long term. if they will be experimenting on these people, they should know the repercussions of their actions and for those athletes who will subject themselves to these drugs, they should also know what they are getting into.
maybe, as you said, they can do these to soldiers, but it is the same, both parties should acknowledge the impact of what they are doing.
It is necessary to disclose to the public the impact of using work-enhancing drugs so that the public does not misunderstand the intent and purpose of holding the sport. Apart from that, they also need to explain everything to the athletes because they are the ones who will use the medicine, and they will also feel it later. Not only for the short term but also for the long term so athletes know what to do later if something arises.

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Yes, making performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) might be viewed as an undertaking driven by financial gain. However, athletes, their trainers, and governing sporting organisations are also responsible for deciding whether to utilize these medications. This is in addition to the pharmaceutical industry. Regarding the worry that athletes can become "arrogant" as a result of using performance-enhancing drugs, it's crucial to keep in mind that character is shaped by more than just performance. Regardless of whether an athlete uses PEDs, arrogance is a possibility. Although they may increase one's physical capabilities, performance enhancers do not change a person's values, thinking, or attitudes. Last but not least, the idea that soldiers might take PEDs is a complicated one. While improving soldiers' skills may seem advantageous, this must be weighed against potential health hazards and ethical issues. A society should think on whether it is acceptable to put people's health at risk for alleged greater societal benefit.
Therefore, the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the drug must provide a more detailed explanation to the public so that people can accept it and not misunderstand it. We also don't know if other motives exist for holding the sport because they or the organizers will not provide detailed explanations. They may just want to provide a different show from what they already have. What is seen in society is that these drugs can improve a person's performance to have greater strength than not consuming them.
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July 10, 2023, 12:40:30 PM
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This is really crazy, and for sure the president of it is really on dope also, but I can seem to say that we can see their true potential if they are on that substance, as they will be influenced by something that is unnatural, which means it is not their true potential. This is very interesting, as we can see what the limit is for those kinds of people when on that substance. Though for sure, with this kind of Olympics, there are tons of new drugs being developed intended for this use, and this would be about the best drugs for those kinds of events.
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July 10, 2023, 01:25:37 PM
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I don't think that this is funny to allow dope in an Olympics game. I know that some athlete might be on some kind of drugs as their motivator to bring out a good performance, but I guess that sports shouldn't be influenced with drugs. I am not in support on this but I will love to watch how the athletes will perform.

Anything is possible since some countries have legalized marijuana intake. I hope that it wouldn't have side effect on the result of the game and athletes wouldn't get overdose on drugs when it is time for them to partake in the game. The potential in sport will be dead with drugs . One don't need to bet on such games because you will end up losing your funds since the athletes are on drugs.

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July 10, 2023, 03:11:00 PM
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I'm sure that the athletes with the bigger "doping budgets" would win all the time.
It's not easy like that. Human beings aren't like machines where you put the most expensive gears in order to deliver the most outstanding results. There is also the biological factor, which may prevent an athlete from receiving a doping with positive results on his body. A promising athlete who could do great naturally may just destroy his career and his life by using those drugs due to side effects, despite those medicines being top notch on the area they promise to enhance.

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July 10, 2023, 03:14:16 PM
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Might be exciting to watch but I personally don't like things that are not real, now when a person uses a pill to become more powerful and have enhanced abilities might be able to perform better but it would still not be original because everyone watching would already know that they have used performance-enhancing pills and that is the reason why they are performing well and the audience would never really appreciate the actual efforts they are making.

I also believe that organizations like the Guinness Book of World Records shouldn't count any record made in such games because it will be an injustice to those who have done it without taking any pills but completed the achievements all by themselves and have worked really hard to do it definitely.

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July 10, 2023, 03:46:15 PM
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I don't think that this is funny to allow dope in an Olympics game. I know that some athlete might be on some kind of drugs as their motivator to bring out a good performance, but I guess that sports shouldn't be influenced with drugs. I am not in support on this but I will love to watch how the athletes will perform.

Anything is possible since some countries have legalized marijuana intake. I hope that it wouldn't have side effect on the result of the game and athletes wouldn't get overdose on drugs when it is time for them to partake in the game. The potential in sport will be dead with drugs . One don't need to bet on such games because you will end up losing your funds since the athletes are on drugs.
For countries that legalized the use of Marijuana for Olympics, its exactly cheating. Most athletes are drug addicts who hide and use drugs for the purpose to further enhance their athletic abilities, receive awards, and accumulate plaudits. Taking hard drugs for Olympic sports is highly illegal in the vast majority of countries, and if an athlete is caught using these substances, he or she will be automatically disqualified from participation, as this is a violation of the laws that govern the game. Athletes are remarkable in their fields; they go above and beyond to impress the audience and countries.

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July 10, 2023, 06:39:16 PM
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I don't think that this is funny to allow dope in an Olympics game. I know that some athlete might be on some kind of drugs as their motivator to bring out a good performance, but I guess that sports shouldn't be influenced with drugs. I am not in support on this but I will love to watch how the athletes will perform.

Anything is possible since some countries have legalized marijuana intake. I hope that it wouldn't have side effect on the result of the game and athletes wouldn't get overdose on drugs when it is time for them to partake in the game. The potential in sport will be dead with drugs . One don't need to bet on such games because you will end up losing your funds since the athletes are on drugs.
For countries that legalized the use of Marijuana for Olympics, its exactly cheating. Most athletes are drug addicts who hide and use drugs for the purpose to further enhance their athletic abilities, receive awards, and accumulate plaudits. Taking hard drugs for Olympic sports is highly illegal in the vast majority of countries, and if an athlete is caught using these substances, he or she will be automatically disqualified from participation, as this is a violation of the laws that govern the game. Athletes are remarkable in their fields; they go above and beyond to impress the audience and countries.

Well countries who decides poorly for their citizens allowing legalization of bad stuff are morally bankrupt. They normally reason that its medical marijuana but we know its not just that. There are several state already trying this that's why from time to time we see some kids driving in the fast lane with red eye. Cocaine started as medical treatment just as they say medical marijuana.

Allowing enhance performance drugs in sports, means its these redbulls that run the athlete, its these enhance drugs that made them win. How is that for a reputation of the sport athlete?

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July 10, 2023, 07:49:38 PM
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I did not even bother to watch the video or read the links. I don't think this will work. The tournament will have a hard time getting television airtime and I wonder if there are giant companies that are willing to sponsor this type of event. If ever the tournament goes thru event without much-needed support from the media, it won't be recognized by sports associations and groups including its world record if ever it breaks some. 

The biggest question will be about the participants. It doesn't make sense to join the tournament because they will be banned by their organizations and regular tournaments. A participant will have nothing to do and earn after the tournament then? This is a crazy idea and there will be no top athletes willing to join.

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the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

This guy must be joking, but I appreciate his idea, because all this hypocrisy around the Olympic sports must end. Let's be honest here.
All Olympic athletes are using doping in one way or another. The athletes from the big and rich nations are using better high quality doping.
That's why USA and China athletes have the most medals on every Olympic games.
Anyway, this news has little to do with the discussions around Gambling, because I don't believe that the bookies would allow betting on these "Enhanced games". I'm sure that the athletes with the bigger "doping budgets" would win all the time.
To me, one the beauties of Olympic is the fact that doping is considered as a huge abomination to the game which makes athletes of the sports to always be cautious of the kind of food or drink they consume so that they won't test positive.
The brain behind this "Enhanced game" surely want to corrupt many young people in to believing that doping in sports is actually good and sould be done

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