Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

[Pleasant_Tree]

Hi all, here is a two part question:

Do you believe in Heaven?
and,
Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

Optionally, please feel free to discuss why you believe and what you think it will be like, i.e. Will your favorite pets and friends be there and easy to find? How will you find them, will we have "Apps" for that? 

Please maintain a nice talk, and do not have the same two or three people debating religion, thank you. 

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[BADecker]

You miss a couple more questions, from the opposite direction. These questions are:
1. Does the universe exit?
2. Does life exist?
The reason why these are important is, nobody can prove them with solid, empirical science.

Big Bang is a fantasy that sounds good to those who need it to believe in. But the science behind BB is so extremely lacking that it is really utter foolishness. Besides, asking any layman to understand the little science there is, makes the whole topic of this question in a public forum to be foolishness.

As far as life goes, the dividing line between something that is dead, and the moment before while it was still alive, hasn't been found. If it is close to being found, it is understood (almost) by a few technical people, but absolutely none of us lay people.

The point of asking these two additional questions is, before we ask about some fanciful place called Heaven, we really need to be afraid, because we don't really know anything about this age.

But take heart. Since this universe and life seem to exist without proof, and without the knowledge of how such could be possible, something like Heaven could exist for the same, unknown reasons.

[o48o]

Hi all, here is a two part question:

Do you believe in Heaven?
and,
Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?
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A: Nah, i don't need afterlife. This life is enough for me. Thought of that gives me peace and clarity and understanding that i need to cherish everything i have while i have it. I need to live my life to the end because i have it. While being kind to my family and friends and give my kids a better changes in life than i did.

I used to be religious, but after i understood what void it was filling, getting rid of it really balanced my life to better. I just don't need anyone in the sky watching me. Neither gods or government.

B: What will happen after i die? My body either get burned or buried. I guess my afterlife would feel similar to before i existed. Like nothing.

[Pleasant_Tree]

I found the first two posts to both be thought provoking, thank you. I was raised very religious with church & church school every Sunday. In my teens, I found Ayn Rand's book Atlas Shrugged to be an amazing experience. Over the years, I've come to respect Rand's politics and in depth understanding of people and history more than her hostility towards religion. The idea of going somewhere wonderful after death has a strong appeal, especially as we get older, but I can't put too much faith in the concept, yet.    

[Queentoshi]

Do you believe in Heaven?
and,
Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

Religion gives you something to believe in, and in some religions mostly Christianity, a place called heaven is promised for people who live a good life here on earth, and hell for those who did not have a good life on earth. You are a Christian, so you believe in heaven, but many people who are believers in other religion have their own beliefs about what happens next when they close their eyes to life here on earth. You will find out where you will end up when you die.

[Gozie51]

I found the first two posts to both be thought provoking, thank you. I was raised very religious with church & church school every Sunday.

This is kind of funny to know. You asked a question so you don't expect response that you want to hear  . The forum is filled with people of diverse religion, opinions and different in every other thing you can think of are viewed in different ways. So take it cool, you will see people responding the way you want it. Religion is the shaping value for the way people reason just like you were brought up in church and Christian way, of course heaven is real and Christians want to spend eternity in heaven but some Christians too don't believe that so open your mind but hold on to what you believe.

[Zlantann]

Hi all, here is a two part question:

Do you believe in Heaven?

I believe in the afterlife. Many religions believe that your works on earth determine how and where to spend your afterlife. And it is believed that the afterlife is everlasting. Although many false teachers have adulterated many religious teachings, I have stopped listening to them and focused on the Holy Book. And this sacred book unveils that if you live a righteous life on earth, you will go to heaven but if you are evil there is a place called hell waiting for you.

Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

I am aspiring to go to heaven when my time is up on earth. Living a righteous life is becoming hard every day because evil is taking over the earth. If you are not corrupt you might be subjected to hardship and poverty. But every day I keep fighting temptation that wants to make me derail from the path of truth. But I am hoping that when I stand before the judgment throne when my time is up on the earth, my maker will find me worthy to enter the gates of heaven.

[BADecker]

^^^ If the Good Book is not the Bible, or if it does not express Jesus death and resurrection for salvation, it is not the Good Book. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. Believing Jesus will almost automatically cause one to want to live a better life here on earth.

[jvanname]

I find it absurd that people really expect to go to heaven despite God's grace. Do Christians ever apologize when they do wrong? No. They do not. This is because they do not believe in repentance because Christians are just as hateful and angry as everyone else. I have an idea. Why don't all the fake believers just stop calling themselves Christians? And why don't people stop fooling themselves into believing that these fake believers have really repented of their sins. Christians tend to be the most angry and immoral of all people, so they will be the first in the line to HELL.

P.S. I am still the only entity who is publicly stating that all bio-safety level (BSL) 4 labs need to publicly post cryptographic timestamps of all of their data. It seems like everyone else is more concerned with how they can do as many hateful evil deeds as possible than about making sure that BSL-4 labs are truly secure. After all, none of you chlurmcks care about your own health. You only care about making sure that everyone around you is as f***ing miserable as you are because you are SCUM! So you will all go to Hell a lot sooner because you will get sick as a result of your refusal to take the necessary safety precautions to prevent pandemics.

If you disagree with what I have to say, then you should try being better people so that you by the grace of God would avoid HELL.

[Merit.s]

Hi all, here is a two part question:

Do you believe in Heaven?
and,
Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

Optionally, please feel free to discuss why you believe and what you think it will be like, i.e. Will your favorite pets and friends be there and easy to find? How will you find them, will we have "Apps" for that?  

Please maintain a nice talk, and do not have the same two or three people debating religion, thank you.  

Christian, Jesus Christ revealed everything about heaven to the people that was privilege to be with him then. I also have the faith that heaven is real and it will be for only those who does the will of God here on earth. The bible has explained and told the Christians everything about life after death. Some other religion might not believe in this because we all have our different belief and faith. God is real and heaven is also real. I will try my best by the grace of God to go and meet my creator when I give up the ghost.

[BADecker]

I find it absurd that people really expect to go to heaven despite God's grace. Do Christians ever apologize when they do wrong? No. They do not. This is because they do not believe in repentance because Christians are just as hateful and angry as everyone else. I have an idea. Why don't all the fake believers just stop calling themselves Christians? And why don't people stop fooling themselves into believing that these fake believers have really repented of their sins. Christians tend to be the most angry and immoral of all people, so they will be the first in the line to HELL.

P.S. I am still the only entity who is publicly stating that all bio-safety level (BSL) 4 labs need to publicly post cryptographic timestamps of all of their data. It seems like everyone else is more concerned with how they can do as many hateful evil deeds as possible than about making sure that BSL-4 labs are truly secure. After all, none of you chlurmcks care about your own health. You only care about making sure that everyone around you is as f***ing miserable as you are because you are SCUM! So you will all go to Hell a lot sooner because you will get sick as a result of your refusal to take the necessary safety precautions to prevent pandemics.

If you disagree with what I have to say, then you should try being better people so that you by the grace of God would avoid HELL.

I agree that the dividing line between good works salvation and faith salvation can be difficult to understand. Look at the parable of the sheep and the goats - Matthew 25:31-46 - https://www.biblehub.com/niv/matthew/25.htm.

In this parable, it seems that the King is judging people on the merits of what they have done. It seems contradictory to passages like the one where Jesus says, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent," John 6:29 - https://biblehub.com/john/6-29.htm. So, how do we reconcile these two ideas? Something like this...

ALL people do good, and they all do evil. There are some believers and some unbelievers who do tremendous amounts of good, and very little evil. There are also loads of believers and loads of unbelievers who do very little good, but large amounts of evil.

In the sheep and goats parable, why is it that the King doesn't acknowledge the evil that the sheep did? It's because the sheep believe in the salvation that Jesus provided, and the sins (evil) have been washed away in Jesus blood. Their sins don't exist any longer because they are covered by the blood of Jesus. All that is left is the good, however small it may be.

With the goats, why doesn't the King acknowledge the good that they did, even though they did some evil right along with the good (just like the sheep)? Saint Paul explains it simply and clearly in the easy words, Romans 14:23b, "...and everything that does not come from faith is sin," - https://biblehub.com/romans/14-23.htm. So, for the goats, everything, even the good, is sin. Why? Because it was not done in faith.

Good works are to be done by believers because their faith is tested and diminished when they sin, especially if they do evil intentionally. Believers can lose their saving faith. But it is difficult, because God won't let them go easily.

One of the other good reasons why believers should do good and not do evil is, so that unbelievers can see that their godliness exists, so that these unbelievers also can turn to faith.

Nothing stops any believer or unbeliever from doing evil. But, reread Romans 14:23b above.

[Shova]

I don't plan to die anytime soon. And as there's no recorded reviews from any dead, I have no expectations for afterlife.

[BADecker]

I don't plan to die anytime soon. And as there's no recorded reviews from any dead, I have no expectations for afterlife.

God isn't complaining that you don't believe Him. In fact, He wants you to decide... make your own free choice. He probably won't even feel sorry that you roast in Hell. After all, it's for freedom that He has set you free... to even select Hell, if that's what you want.

He's quite a nice Guy, isn't He.

[Ucy]

Hi all, here is a two part question:

Do you believe in Heaven?
and,
Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

Optionally, please feel free to discuss why you believe and what you think it will be like, i.e. Will your favorite pets and friends be there and easy to find? How will you find them, will we have "Apps" for that?

Please maintain a nice talk, and do not have the same two or three people debating religion, thank you.  

Heaven actually exist. I'm one of the hardest person to convince of something without proof.

My goal is to do what it requires to get there... to please the CREATOR always.

*I believe water exist because I saw it.*
 No human can describe heaven even if seen. It has a Great Sparkle that can't be described because it has never been seen nor imagined by humans. The sparkle is healing when stared at....you immediately feel healing & painless crackling in your bones/body as if being pressed together by a powerful force.


We could have our evil pets, friends, brothers and sisters destroyed in hell while we meet their replica in heaven. The evil ones are not who we think they are. Once they become completely evil they become satan.

[swogerino]

Nice question,I think though that asking for heaven and not wanting religious responses is like saying I am a very nice guy but I also like whores  .

So yes I expect to go to heaven hopefully as what is the point of us coming here on earth and why are the skies created,I doubt they are for nothing,they are for a purpose,everything is created for a purpose and while this purpose may be different if no after life exists then well done to Hitler who killed millions and also Putin who is doing the same now,I think he is already in hellfire Hitler and Putin will follow soon.

I have always been fascinated by the topic of after life and science has proven that the human brain still functions for 30 minutes after our death and this is a miracle,they have not manage to find out what happens during these thirty minutes which make it even more mysterious.You know what is even strange,the fact that our two organs,like our genitals and our stomach which we try to pleasure as much as we can during our life,are the first organs to dissolve.

[GiftedMAN]

Hi all, here is a two part question:

Do you believe in Heaven?
and,
Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

A) Yes I believe in heaven because as a follower of Christ( Christian) the bible made us to understand that there is heaven and there is hell. Every follower of Jesus Christ must believe there is heaven because the end point of every believer is to make heaven after spending time on earth here because heaven according to the bible is a paradise.

B) Heaven is my goal after living a good life on earth and I am hoping to make heaven by the grace of almight God because my works alone can't take me their neither will my deeds take me but his grace and mercy will take me to a place where there is no hard labour before eating, heaven is my ending point after life and I will definitely be there some day.

[Frankolala]

Do you believe in Heaven?

Of course mate. Christians are believers of God and we have heard of so many miracles that was performed in the past by Jesus Christ to make people believe that there is life after death and that we are visitors on earth because we have a father that is in heaven who will demand for our soul when the time comes.

Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

My big dream on earth is to go to heaven when I die because it is only in heaven that we can have eternal peace and rest glorifying the lord and worshipping God.

[blockman]

Do you believe in Heaven?

Yes. But I respect those that don't believe on it so, hopefully they'll also respect my belief on it.

Do you expect to go to Heaven, when finished here on Earth?

Yes, I'm expecting to be in there and it's not just when you pass away here on Earth you'll get there surely. This is where the belief of each religion comes and I don't wanna expound on it because it's gonna be a long debate. So, I'm all good if someone believes in heaven or not but not with long arguments.

Optionally, please feel free to discuss why you believe and what you think it will be like, i.e. Will your favorite pets and friends be there and easy to find?

It's paradise, where you don't have to be problematic about daily living and there's no more sickness in there. As for the pets, I don't think that we'll see them there because from what I know, they've got no soul. And with our friends, possible.

How will you find them, will we have "Apps" for that? 

We'll just gonna know that soon.

[Zlantann]

^^^ If the Good Book is not the Bible, or if it does not express Jesus death and resurrection for salvation, it is not the Good Book. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. Believing Jesus will almost automatically cause one to want to live a better life here on earth.

I am a Christian and believe that Jesus is the way to Heaven. But I don't really believe that only Christians will go to heaven. I believe that everyone that loves his neighbor and doesn't do things that harm them might make it to heaven. We have to show love, mercy, and liberality. Your religious belief greatly depends on your location. I am a Christian today because my parents practice the religion and most people in my location are Christians. If maybe I was born in Saudi Arabia, I would have been a Muslim. Nothing would have stopped me from becoming a Hindu if I was born in India. The main issue is to be good to humanity. If you assume that only Christians would go to heaven, then God can make it easy by stopping giving babies to Muslims and other religions. And make more Christian families have more children that will go to heaven instead of sending children in families that will lead them to hell. I don't believe that only Christians will go to heaven.

[BADecker]

^^^ If the Good Book is not the Bible, or if it does not express Jesus death and resurrection for salvation, it is not the Good Book. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. Believing Jesus will almost automatically cause one to want to live a better life here on earth.

I am a Christian and believe that Jesus is the way to Heaven. But I don't really believe that only Christians will go to heaven.

It's easy for anyone to say that they are a Christian. But a real Christian is one who believes in salvation by Jesus, the Christ (Messiah).

I believe that everyone that loves his neighbor and doesn't do things that harm them might make it to heaven. We have to show love, mercy, and liberality.

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me," - https://biblehub.com/john/14-6.htm. So far nobody has been able to show what doing good has to do with being saved.

Your religious belief greatly depends on your location. I am a Christian today because my parents practice the religion and most people in my location are Christians.

No, this is not why you are a Christian. The reason why you are a Christian is that through your parents, you heard the Word of God spoken, or you read it. Then the Holy Spirit worked faith in your heart through the Word that you heard.

If maybe I was born in Saudi Arabia, I would have been a Muslim. Nothing would have stopped me from becoming a Hindu if I was born in India. The main issue is to be good to humanity. If you assume that only Christians would go to heaven, then God can make it easy by stopping giving babies to Muslims and other religions.

It is the hearing of the Word of God - especially the parts that talk about Jesus-salvation - that works faith in the heart. People of nations or religions that don't have the Bible possibly will never hear the Word of God.

And make more Christian families have more children that will go to heaven instead of sending children in families that will lead them to hell. I don't believe that only Christians will go to heaven.

King David talks about how he was put together by God in his mommy's tummy: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb," - Psalm 139:13. What this means is that God is putting people together before they are born. So, we all heard the Word of God from the beginning of our conception. But if we don't have reinforcement by the Bible once we get out here, we forget.

The point is, everybody who believes in Jesus-salvation is saved, no matter how he gets that faith. But we can see how difficult it is for people born to practicing Christians to be saved. So, we can easily understand how hard it will be for people who don't have even the Word, to be saved.

However, if they get the Word in some way that we don't know about, they will be saved, if they believe. Yet, who has a clear example of how a person can get the Word without getting the Bible, or without somebody speaking it to him? Because that is what the Holy Spirit uses to work faith in the hearts of people.