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Look, I think we don't really care that you have a really good reputation on the other site, it's good for you, and you can put that on your thread in this forum. The question here is, how is that most of the reviews on your thread in this forum is from account that has less than 10 Post/Activity. If you care to explain how that could happened, or just give a single good reasons people might actually believe you. Sure you have the screenshot of how the transaction was going, it could be a legit transaction, I don't know, but why are your customers seems like they only make Bitcointalk account just to buy your service. I already explained that. they also sign up to give feedback, not to get service.
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Synchronice (OP)
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July 12, 2023, 03:19:20 PM |
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Seems, you don't understand the problem. Reviews in your ANN thread doesn't come from bitcointalk users. I repeat again, those reviews aren't reviews from Bitcointalk users. Even if we assume that your service is legit, reviews are still fake because you ask other users to register on bitcointalk to leave reviews. If you took user from crackedio, then that user should leave review on crackedio and that user shouldn't create an exclusive account for you to leave review on Bitcointalk or on any other platform. The way you do reviews don't really look legit and if any, it brings negative senses. I hope I made things clear. Btw is there actually any real bitcointalk member that purchased your service via your ANN thread?
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FmaTR
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July 12, 2023, 03:58:53 PM |
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Seems, you don't understand the problem. Reviews in your ANN thread doesn't come from bitcointalk users. I repeat again, those reviews aren't reviews from Bitcointalk users. Even if we assume that your service is legit, reviews are still fake because you ask other users to register on bitcointalk to leave reviews. If you took user from crackedio, then that user should leave review on crackedio and that user shouldn't create an exclusive account for you to leave review on Bitcointalk or on any other platform. The way you do reviews don't really look legit and if any, it brings negative senses. I hope I made things clear. Btw is there actually any real bitcointalk member that purchased your service via your ANN thread? Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
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July 12, 2023, 06:45:58 PM |
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Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
I don't know enough about your services, but it's not a good practice to recommend your previous users from another website to visit this forum and create their accounts only to leave you a positive feedback. The worst thing is that most of those users are pretty new and they left the forum and their accounts after leaving you a positive feedback. I don't think that such practice is an acceptable thing in this forum and yes, there are chances that those users can be your alt accounts or at least few people might consider those as your alt accounts. If you really wanted to gain more depend at your thread then you should have given vouch copies to reputed members of the forum because their vouch would be far more worthy than those newbie accounts.
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FmaTR
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July 13, 2023, 06:57:21 AM |
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Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
I don't know enough about your services, but it's not a good practice to recommend your previous users from another website to visit this forum and create their accounts only to leave you a positive feedback. The worst thing is that most of those users are pretty new and they left the forum and their accounts after leaving you a positive feedback. I don't think that such practice is an acceptable thing in this forum and yes, there are chances that those users can be your alt accounts or at least few people might consider those as your alt accounts. If you really wanted to gain more depend at your thread then you should have given vouch copies to reputed members of the forum because their vouch would be far more worthy than those newbie accounts. 👍👍
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July 13, 2023, 01:23:47 PM |
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The way you do reviews don't really look legit and if any, it brings negative senses. I hope I made things clear. Btw is there actually any real bitcointalk member that purchased your service via your ANN thread?
Of the 99% of positive reviews on his service's Thread generated by newcomers with only 1 activity, maybe he entered the mandatory review requirement on his service's Thread for personal gain. If that's true, it means he has invited huge spam in his service Thread. I don't think any real Bitcointalk members buy the service, real members who have been here for a long time won't be easily tempted by a service offered by someone who doesn't have a good reputation contributing to the forum. I trust members who have a good reputation more than doing transactions with members who only rely on positive reviews from accounts that have 1 activity on the forum.
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July 13, 2023, 01:34:04 PM |
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I don't think any real Bitcointalk members buy the service, real members who have been here for a long time won't be easily tempted by a service offered by someone who doesn't have a good reputation contributing to the forum. I trust members who have a good reputation more than doing transactions with members who only rely on positive reviews from accounts that have 1 activity on the forum.
This is bad, although it's up to you for choosing which user to trade, but if there's no one want to use a newbie service, this make the new seller has no way to compete with the veteran seller since the veteran seller will always get customers and the new seller will not get any customer as no one want to order. There's nothing wrong to trade with a new seller as long as you use escrow service or making an agreement by asking him to send first etc.
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July 13, 2023, 02:01:06 PM |
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Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
We've only learned a lot from existing spammers tagged with single reviews like in your thread. Well, whether it's a customer-initiated review or you requested them or actually you did it yourself, I haven't seen any negative reviews so far. And thankfully it's not a self-moderate thread. I think it's good to see how far the reviews will gather, the trigger is when you get the first bad review then since then the situation will be worse than this one. I almost wrote bad about your service yesterday, luckily you took care of replying to this thread.
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July 13, 2023, 04:03:42 PM |
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I don't think any real Bitcointalk members buy the service, real members who have been here for a long time won't be easily tempted by a service offered by someone who doesn't have a good reputation contributing to the forum. I trust members who have a good reputation more than doing transactions with members who only rely on positive reviews from accounts that have 1 activity on the forum.
This is bad, although it's up to you for choosing which user to trade, but if there's no one want to use a newbie service, this make the new seller has no way to compete with the veteran seller since the veteran seller will always get customers and the new seller will not get any customer as no one want to order. There's nothing wrong to trade with a new seller as long as you use escrow service or making an agreement by asking him to send first etc. There targets is actually on the newbies that wouldn't know how to descern from what they want and the one to avoid, for a service to come out through this forum doesn't mean that it's a real take we should rush into for a take, scam is not moderated here and the forum is not responsible for any experience we had while making deals with any member, you take the risk to trust them or not to trust them, such only receive reviews left on their profile to serve as reference for others coming to have an encounter with them, always do your own research before investing or trust anyone.
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The Sceptical Chymist
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July 13, 2023, 04:54:35 PM |
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Well....when you see a thread like that you should immediately see that there's a fucking moron doing exactly what OP and everyone else says he's doing, i.e., creating dummy accounts to laughably try to boost his credibility and thinking everyone here is an idiot.
Theymos is very strongly for free speech, which is good, but I'd argue that since there's also a rule about spamming and it's obvious that dipshit is using alt accounts to do exactly that, he should be banned. But OP, you probably should report this stuff to the mods next time you see it instead of creating a thread about it. I'm seeing a lot of shitposts in this thread, and it's making me want to scream.
Props to you for noticing it and getting your fur ruffled about it. That type of crap is annoying.
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FmaTR
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July 13, 2023, 06:45:18 PM |
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Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
For all questions and answers. TeleGram: https://t.me/FMA1453 Kind regards.Older than me and still active.Hello Everyone, I am selling VCC 12 different bins, i have MasterCard and Visa. Price 3$ Contact: TG https://t.me/FMA1453+rep , vouch for this guy, newbie account but legit. Card works for multiple services and platform. Older than me and still active. And we've been working hard since then.rep+ worked fine thanks
JR member and older than me, I don't know if it's enough ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Legit seller. just tested his service. works fine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) vouch Still active.Trusted seller. Fast and good service
Older than me and still active.Perfect transaction I highly recommend !
Older than me and still active.Bought a one year Spotify sub from him. Fast service and good seller. Recommended.
Older than me and still active.+ rep
Extremely quick and very helpful guy, got 1 year discord nitro just like that in under 10 minutes!
Would definitely recommend.
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July 14, 2023, 09:37:55 AM |
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Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
You already stated that users come from search engine, I read that. But those, who look for cheap accounts and discover your Bitcointalk ANN thread in search engines, aren't real bitcointalk members. When someone actually from bitcointalk contacts you, then you can ask those people to leave review in your thread but when someone find you in search engine, you can't ask that person to create a bitcointalk account to leave a review in your thread. Don't totally blame me for this situation, those reviews from 1 activity accounts look suspicious not only for me but for everyone, so it's even better for your business to prioritize quality over quantity. Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it.
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FmaTR
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July 14, 2023, 09:49:03 AM |
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Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
You already stated that users come from search engine, I read that. But those, who look for cheap accounts and discover your Bitcointalk ANN thread in search engines, aren't real bitcointalk members. When someone actually from bitcointalk contacts you, then you can ask those people to leave review in your thread but when someone find you in search engine, you can't ask that person to create a bitcointalk account to leave a review in your thread. Don't totally blame me for this situation, those reviews from 1 activity accounts look suspicious not only for me but for everyone, so it's even better for your business to prioritize quality over quantity. Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it. Thank you. Whenever you like.
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July 14, 2023, 04:35:16 PM |
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If the user was a scammer, he wouldn't be banned because scams are not moderated. If you think he's a scammer and you have proof, you can give negative trust using the trust system.
The user may be constantly opening new accounts and giving himself a positive feedback. We've seen many examples of this. However, this is difficult to prove. Although it's unlikely, there may be people who actually come from the search engine and sign up for the forum to purchase the service. No one takes the positive feedback of one post accounts seriously anyway. I think the seller is aware of this. I don't think it's a problem for these accounts to post on the thread, as long as they follow the 24-hour bump rule.
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July 14, 2023, 05:52:08 PM |
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If you look at thread from beginning you would understand that only newbies posting there, I don't see any serious user posted there and besides is on the Digital Goods section where he or she may post whatever they feels like. And again I doubt if those rating were given to himself or herself alone, since no serious alarm has been raised over there I don't think he should be Penalized for bumping his thread. I believe he can't try that shit in any other section apart from that end and if he does then the account is at risk of getting knocked down for shity replies.
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July 17, 2023, 08:37:55 AM |
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If the user was a scammer, he wouldn't be banned because scams are not moderated. If you think he's a scammer and you have proof, you can give negative trust using the trust system.
The user may be constantly opening new accounts and giving himself a positive feedback. We've seen many examples of this. However, this is difficult to prove. Although it's unlikely, there may be people who actually come from the search engine and sign up for the forum to purchase the service. No one takes the positive feedback of one post accounts seriously anyway. I think the seller is aware of this. I don't think it's a problem for these accounts to post on the thread, as long as they follow the 24-hour bump rule.
Exactly my thoughts. All you said is very valid and it was later I checked your profile and discovered that you are a staff. The only thing that will make the OP of the thread to be banned is when they disregard the bumping rule. There is no scam accusation against the OP and even if it appears that the OP created other alt accounts to give themselves positive reviews. It is pure assumption and no one will act based on that. Besides, scam is not moderated here and even if you decide to moderate it, it will be difficult.
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The behavior exhibited in the account owner's thread named FmaTR drives opinion towards dirty behavior by creating an atmosphere where someone is satisfied with the service offered by Op. Although the existence of suspicious activity that occurred in the Thread needs valid evidence to make accusations Op has used multiple Alt accounts to highlight how satisfied they are after doing a deal with FmaTR. There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered. Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages. ☛ BrynnK☛ bm92☛ intreos☛ tehooh☛ amibumping☛ Vrotdugis110It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity. I don't know if this can help @FmaTR, but because I was quoted, I will try. I registered on this forum, just because he FmaTR ask me to rate him, that's why I don't more messages on the forum, because it's not mandatory to do it, because he puts his telegram, I do it because the transaction was fine, and easy, even with the cryptochange not fair for him and he has no problem. I found him on a reddit thread that you can find here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IllegalLifeProTips/comments/yxf8kb/ilpt_get_cheap_spotify_tidal_netflix_disney_and/I hope that helps him. Regards.
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Synchronice (OP)
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August 11, 2023, 08:38:08 PM |
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Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it. As I promised back then, I used his service and purchased a PSN account from him. This guy is legit and very cool, he responded me very quickly and created a brand new account immediately without any extra charge and I really appreciate it! Here are the proofs of the deal: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F08%2F11%2FGgIEq.png&t=665&c=lfnCxkGkJ-usHg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F08%2F11%2FGgEAP.png&t=665&c=Xsl59MXz-u6vmA) @FmaTR Thanks again!
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FmaTR
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August 13, 2023, 04:46:03 PM |
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Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it. As I promised back then, I used his service and purchased a PSN account from him. This guy is legit and very cool, he responded me very quickly and created a brand new account immediately without any extra charge and I really appreciate it! Here are the proofs of the deal: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/11/GgIEq.pnghttps://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/11/GgEAP.png@FmaTR Thanks again! Thank you, my friend. Hope to see you again. As I said before, everything is completely transparent.
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GeorgeJohn
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August 20, 2023, 11:14:41 AM |
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Since you have rendered apology to tye person, I think its best time to lock thread because as the thread is open is not idea due to the thread is looking empty because of the cancellation of your composition.
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