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July 12, 2023, 07:49:16 PM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

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July 12, 2023, 08:05:35 PM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Nope. I don't think so. Number of factors at play that leads to the massive devaluation of the twitter stock and just cause they are up against a twitter clone doesn't mean people will choose them over the latter. For one, Threads actually provides more access and liberty within their platform, against the opinionated Twitter userbase. Another would be the fact that Twitter as it stands today is already a dying platform, no thanks to Elon's belligerent moves that lead to people losing trust in him in the process.

I don't see the price of twitter stock increasing any time soon unless Elon passes the ownership over to someone more capable than him, and someone who really knows how to run a social media business more than charging people 8 bucks so they could enjoy the full experience that they were able to anyway before he came in.
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July 12, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Why would Elon launch a clone of the twitter app he already owns? Getting the old one working without problems should be priority.

But let's play with the idea: No, it would not. People have been leaving the twitter platform even before the alternative was launched. I have been invested my time into it in the past but now i am just looking for the password for several accounts that i want to shut down. I am getting more and more spam that it's getting worse than telegram private messages. And the amount of trolling... I totally understand why taliban is endorsing it.

Twtr stock has been delisted so i don't see how comparing the stock value would be relevant.

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July 12, 2023, 08:19:11 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Elon Musk has made some mistakes experimenting with Twitter and it is affecting the company negatively. Thread came up with a more flexible policy and user-friendly option and it also gives users more options. If Twitter comes up with a clone of Twitter, its success will depend on the innovation, operation, and terms and conditions of the app. People want something new that will clearly be better than its rivals or alternative. And if the new app is widely accepted by the end users, the stock price of the company will increase. If Elon Musk comes up with a product that is better than Twitter people will gladly embrace it.

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July 12, 2023, 09:14:06 PM
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if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

No, it won't, and I believe this thread is even getting this attention based on the recent happenings on Twitter. Since the social media changed ownership, there have been some unfavorable changes made by the new CEO, Elon Musk, which Twitter users have cried out about. I can recall reading through a few articles where a lot of interviews with Twitter influencers were posted, and most people openly cried out for an alternative option that might serve the purpose of Twitter since they are no longer getting what they expect from it. So the hype this thread is getting is as a result of what it offers; if you take a good look at the app, you will see that it's something competitive to that of Twitter.
 
And even if Elon Musk tries to clone Twitter to get another new version of social media, it will not get the same hype because, because of him, most people are already looking for alternative options instead of using the giant social media as they used to. Twitter has now fully been turned into his personal business, where anyone he doesn't want will be kicked out of the forum. And verification is now to be acquired not by originality but by whoever is willing to pay $8, which is going to increase account impersonation more than it has ever been.

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Let's be real, anything new that big companies release that has a semblance of similarity to any famous social media app would become famous at launch. In the long run? I'd say it depends. I mean look at Twitter, Elon made it such a shitshow and yet there are still quite a lot of people that use it. Facebook might have a little bias from me, but it's close to useless imo, but people still use it quite a LOT. Plus, isn't thread less of an insta clone and more like a Twitter clone? I mean if I recall correctly Elon took it as such (I've never used it, and probably never will unless twitter permanently tanks for my commissions).

On Elon releasing a new twitter though, that depends. Meta has been pretty stable in their social media dev, if you temporarily remove their mess of a VR game. Elon on the other hand, sucked at it, at launch even. A lot of people have been hating on the man and there was even an API issue with Twitter a few days (or weeks) ago? I reckon anything new out of this man in the social media industry wouldn't make big money.

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July 12, 2023, 11:24:33 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

If the plan is to create an app(a replica of twitter)that would rival Threads(an app created to rival twitter), then I must say that plan isn’t a very smart one. Why go through the hassle of creating a replica when you’ve got the original thing.
Aside from whatever controversy that may be surrounding his handling of twitter, if he does create a replica of twitter, I highly doubt that app would be a success compared to twitter based on registered users. Threads was born with the aim of attracting users from Twitter so the solution is to fix whatever is broken in Twitter so people would want to remain and more people would be interested in signing up instead of creating a whole new app.
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July 12, 2023, 11:45:42 PM
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do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
We will never know, it could be yes and no. People like to get into the new hype and that's why there's a potential that it can happen. With the base number of users in Twitter, there can be a big percentage of it that will try to sign up and use the new app if ever Elon will launch one.
But what's the purpose of it? Just to get on par with what Zuck launched through Threads? I don't even think that Elon will take time to compete with that as what Zuck did was planned a long time ago and launched that in a surprise without anybody knowing and see it coming.

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July 12, 2023, 11:56:52 PM
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I agree with others, Elon literally owns Twitter, so why would we really see something like that? If the point was that Elon may end up doing some Instagram coıpy, because Mark did twitter copy, then that makes more sense. Because in that case, he already has that too give or take, of course not the same but twitter allows images, he could still build some app on mobile that is mainly focused on images, he can copy that and do something like that to piss off Mark, and not like it would not be used at all, but I feel like it would be an inferior one, he even ruined Twitter itself, so creating a new thing would not be easy, would probably not get that much people. He should fix what he has, instead of thinking about making something else.

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July 13, 2023, 01:28:54 AM
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However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

What were you writing here actually? It seems like you confuse between Twitter and Instagram, Thread is clone of Twitter.
Elon already owned Twitter why would he want to build app that clone twitter, maybe what you mean is that 'What would happened if Elon build the clone of Instagram'.

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Its hard to see how Threads will perform a year or two from now. It can be completely dead or it can go head to head with twitter in volume and maybe one day take over. However the largest issue I see here is if Elon in the future starts to limit twitters views like he did last week due to data scraping from AI. If he keeps limiting people on how many tweets they can read and Threads wont have that issue then I can see many people switching over out of frustration.

Another issue is the poor way of how twitter deals with bots. Especially with any type of crypto tweets. You got bots and bots posting fake tweets trying to phish people. Most likely with Threads it will be alot harder to make these new bot accounts. So many people might switch over if they notice Threads doesnt have the same level of spam as Twitter.

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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

The Musk is a very dangerous businessman and he bought Twitter to earn a lot of revenue from it but in the process he forgot that the users on Twitter loved it with the way it was, and changing it in any way would cause huge stress and fear in the minds of the users. But, that guy with his business mindset didn't really cared about those users because his main intention was to earn a lot of revenue from the platform within a short duration of time. He failed with his approach and that's why apps like Threads got those users in short span of time which Twitter lost due to Musk's greed.

I don't think that Elon Musk needs to create a clone of Twitter because he already owns the platform and why would a guy who has a platform creates a clone of it to make the situation even worse? Meta created the clone in order to grab those users who were dissatisfied with Elon's plans for the Twitter, and Mark Zuckerberg knew that in such times creating an app like Threads could grab those users because they hated the Musk's idea for the future of Twitter.

If Elon Musk wants to regain the trust of the users then he will have to convince the users that Twitter is still the old Twitter and the ones who will be using the platform wont be affected in any way due to the recent announcements. Or he may directly declare that he has changed his plans related to changing of Twitter, and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

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July 13, 2023, 05:29:50 AM
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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

There is a rivalry between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Social media has been the forte of Mark Zuckerberg and we cannot deny it, almost all of his social media apps succeeded. I think Mark Zuckerberg is in the expansion of his app creation and anything he can do because it is his ability to do and manage social media apps. No wonder the netizens supports his creation because those social media platform has benefited a lot of netizen in terms of connecting to our families and friends all around the globe. I don't think that Instagram is a merely clone. As Elon Musk takes over Twitter there was a huge changes. I don't think Elon would launch a clone of twitter app and if ever i don't think it would reach the level of success if Mark because both of them have different forte.

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I believe that both Threads and Twitter are proactive platforms for preparing for the election campaign in the United States of America, and since Twitter is more than just an application for collusion, but rather an interface through which voters can be surveyed and their political orientations can be surveyed, the launch of Threads at this time to block the way on Twitter to be the number one platform One.

I do not expect widespread success for Threads, but the reason for the huge number of registrations is the large database it owns on Instagram and Facebook, and therefore it is not a measure of success, but rather the continued growth of the service away from Instagram, and so far it is an urgent attempt by Meta to obtain more opinions of voters.

Twitter does not need to create its own clone because it is a micro-blogging feature, but Elon Musk may launch applications to compete with Instagram and TikTok.

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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
There is no doubt that Thread has gotten millions of signups just in the first 7 hours of its release, which is a new record after the last product of ChatGPT. which took almost 2 days if I am not mistaken. I think most of the sign-ups are just bots, because how could a huge number of users sign up at the same time? I know it is not impossible, but what one can say is that it is unpredictable.

But one thing I can say for sure is that bots are the main characters on Twitter, and many old members do know the skill of making bot accounts on Twitter, and they also know how to keep them alive for longer periods of time without getting banned. So, such characters will also come up with some hacks to make clone accounts in the new Twitter clone app that will be released by Elon Musk.

Elon Musk is not trying to compete with Mark Zuckerberg by making another rival app; instead, his intention is to sue Mark for copying the idea of Threads, which was included in Twitter. But the mind of Elon Musk is also unpredictable; who knows if the next morning he comes up with such an idea?

I think if Elon made another app or clone of Twitter just like Mark did then Twitter will surpass the number of users as we know both apps have a huge number of users and Twitter has the lead in that if I am not wrong.

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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

Twitter is likely going to move up in price but it will be a steady climb. Very hard to see a hard bump unless some huge revelation is made, possibly involving crypto or something.
As for Threads. I think the hype will die down pretty fast. The initial rush there was so that people could lock in their usernames incase it got popular. Also it just does not feel good or natural posting there, It reminds me more of a forum or something but in an app form.
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I'm amused by the idea of a big giant app war while I consider your question. That's great tech-nerd entertainment, right? If Musk builds a Twitter clone, it would be fascinating. Musk, unlike Zuckerberg, would start from zero. His fans are his ace. His supporters are devotees. He might start with a large user base if he plays his cards well. Stock markets are different. Not only product success affects stocks. I wouldn't be surprised if Musk's personality alone helped lift equities, given his history of influencing markets with tweets.

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July 13, 2023, 10:56:14 AM
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It's easy to gain new users for this Threads app, since Meta owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp.
It's pretty clear at this point that Threads was built to be Twitter's competitor and maybe it will attract all the advertisers, who left Twitter.
I hear news about Zuckerberg hiring people, who were fired at Twitter by Elon Musk(and Musk isn't happy at all).
Meta stocks are getting a short term price pump, because the investors have positive expectations about Threads.
The idea of Elon Musk building a Twitter clone app is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The only right move for Musk would be to leave/sell Twitter.

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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
I think it's pretty simple, like he buys an extra pen when he already has a similar pen, and what made him do it? I believe it is not necessary.
Actually, the recent controversy between Elon and Mark as well as twitter and meta, makes me see how much more interest we have in these things, in terms of stock prices I think will increase over time. Indeed since Elon took over twitter, we have also seen improvements, be it positive or negative but it is clear that in his position, the head of a large platform receives the most benefits various criticisms are also hard to avoid.

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Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Until now the app called thread is unusable like there is no search apart from user profiles and also most of the users are redirected from Instagram which is also owned by Meta/Mark so the numbers are too huge with no engagement at all. To keep the members alive they need to make changes as soon as possible or else the threads app will become just another Instagram.

Twitter is also struggling due to multiple factors and Mark took this as opportunity to launch a killer app.

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