[BAN APPEAL] UID: 1047338 / 2221175

[Pmalek]

But if may also asked again what about their businesses that is ongoing here in the forum maybe there are some people who already negotiated on a deal with would their clients be affected as well, Like, after their business account is being ban and no means of communication won't they label the account owner as scammer?

The forum admins aren't going to think about such things and whether or not a person has outstanding business with certain forum members.

If you are running a business, you usually have multiple ways of contact. The forum and the PM system is only one method. There are email, Telegram, social media, maybe colleagues and friends of the banned individual. Also, banned users can still log in and read forum threads, and if you send them a PM, they could read it. They wouldn't be able to respond, but they can read your message. If you have unfinished business, you could PM that person your email, Telegram...whatever and ask them to contact you that way.

I also remember a situation in the recent past where a campaign manager got a temp ban for 1-2 weeks. He asked a trusted forum member to handle his business during the time he was gone and resumed normal activities once the temp ban expired.

If resharing my own content considered as a palagrism that would be a stupid thing.

If someone reports your post, the admin looking at the report might not know you are re-sharing your own content. Even if you do, you should post a link to where it originated from and avoid getting yourself in potential trouble. It's literally that simple, compared to having to explain that both accounts belong to you and wait for an unban. 

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[Timelord2o67]

If resharing my own content considered as a palagrism that would be a stupid thing.

And it's not true because willi already posted his group run text more than 43 times and it's going fine.

I may have had my differences with a couple of admin/mods (which they initiated) but it would be an extraordinary blunder by them to NOT notice that P2Pfinder posted first - years earlier.

HOWEVER - if P2Pfinder was banned for copying another user's post as I'm begging to suspect, HedgeFx is remaining tight lipped about what that may have been. All HedgeFx has done in their defence is chant "Liar! Liar!" without offering any actual defence of their actions.

[1miau]

If HedgeFx is such a great guy he should repay the outstanding loan immediately and await judgement (or is he afraid he'll be banned once the loan(s) are repaid ??)

Dude, really nobody cares about your personal opinion. So, we'll see if you are at least consistent and apologize to @HedgeFX in case your personal opinion turns out to be wrong again.

At this point you are just desperate to make up more fairytales or even outright lies. You are about to ruin your reputation completely, you have attacked several established DT members with blunt lies, like here against me with your spammy off-topic nonsense, you even doubled down on it, lied again AND published private messages one-sidedly.
Your word is just not credible anymore, so more and more DT members are getting tired of your shit stirring nonsense.

Maybe you are the one who needs a 14 days vacation from the forum? Nothing of value would be lost, nobody would miss your attacks against HedgeFX, me or other members...  


Regarding bans:

Bans are a controversial topic, no doubt about it.
But recently, Bitcointalk's rules haven't been enforced in full detail anyways, for example, where even clear cases of first offender accounts are not handled. So, maybe it's time to reconsider Bitcointalk's rules regarding bans as well.
Banning OP now, would make another appeal by him credible. Some people get banned, some not - an appeal against that would be very credible.

Finally, I believe there's little chance for OP to get banned considering how lenient bans have been enforced recently.
But maybe we can improve Bitcointalk's overall ban rules.

Here's how I would change Bitcointalk's ban rules:
- Scrap ban evasion and issue bans related to offenses of a particular account
- Scrap autoban
- Only issue a permaban for severe cases like attempted hacks, spreading malware etc.
- Issue a temp-ban (7, 14, 30, 90 days) followed by a 1 or 2 year sig ban (to target sigspammers) and give them their sig space back if they've still contributed during the sigban period - that way, these members could prove that they aren't just here to produce sigspam.
Done.

In my opinion, these changes would be positive for the forum without any side-effects.

And according to these rules, OP got his punishment by banning P2Pfinder account already.

[examplens]

HedgeFx, Any update regarding this case?

Since several days have passed, as far as I can see, there was no reaction from the moderator, the only thing we can conclude is that you will not get a new ban. I assume that you can leave this thread with your participation in the forum.

Does anyone have an idea how long the ban risk due to "ban evasion" can last in a case like this?

[Timelord2067]

Does anyone have an idea how long the ban risk due to "ban evasion" can last in a case like this?

I'm guessing until the outstanding loan is repaid.


In any event the evader has again breached the conditions of a ban appeal by again posting outside of this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5442010.msg62567490#msg62567490

[nutildah]

In any event the evader has again breached the conditions of a ban appeal by again posting outside of this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5442010.msg62567490#msg62567490

Have you tried contacting your local police department?

[Doan9269]

I feel sad , I feel bad. I feel as I walk on the green mile.

Hope my journey here should continue .

This forum is not an antagonist that wouldn't support the progress of any member to reach his desired goal as long as we are law abiding, as long as the forum remains, no any offenders or abusers of the law go unpunished without receiving the repercussion for their actions, that same thing we give out is what we wouldn't love to see coming back on us, we are exposed enough to start thinking of doing things the right way because when you're upright in your dealings, no one will ever make an attempt to challenge or accuse you on anything.

[Timelord2067]

Have you tried contacting your local police department?

I'm not the one who is owed money

Nore am I the one who has, by their own admission, knowingly evaded a ban for the last two plus years offering nothing in the way of a defense.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Does anyone have an idea how long the ban risk due to "ban evasion" can last in a case like this?

I believe it's handled on case by case basis.

Some members get banned, some don't get banned, other's get unbanned, others don't get unbanned even when they appeal and get some support from other members. I mean, lately, it is so hard to know the rule book the mods go by.'

Personally, I think OP has been given a second chance, though he won't be told so directly.

[CYBER_COWBOY]

Have you tried contacting your local police department?

I'm not the one who is owed money

Nore am I the one who has, by their own admission, knowingly evaded a ban for the last two plus years offering nothing in the way of a defense.

Mate just leave HedgeFx alone, and apologize to both HegdeFx & alterra57 and start focus on things you like and speak and hang out with people you like.
I promise after a week, you will feel so much happier.  

Me and HegdeFx don't come along so well, but that's no reason for stalking him and being rude and try to push him down, in the end it will only be me that losing on it. Why would I want to spend my time on negative things?
Focus on happy things   of course I am not god's son myself, but I try to improve everyday, you can to Time! You can to.

Lets be fair we both know that Hedge ain't a scammer and he's not an idiot either, or spammer. He don't deserve to get banned from this forum.

[SamReomo]

Does anyone have an idea how long the ban risk due to "ban evasion" can last in a case like this?

I believe it's handled on case by case basis.

Some members get banned, some don't get banned, other's get unbanned, others don't get unbanned even when they appeal and get some support from other members. I mean, lately, it is so hard to know the rule book the mods go by.'

Personally, I think OP has been given a second chance, though he won't be told so directly.

I agree with you because the moderators of our forum do not make any unfair decisions and that's why they have to study each case carefully before coming up with a conclusion. In the case of HedgeFx, I suppose he will get another chance because he's been contributing fairly to the forum for a long time and he hasn't done any activity that could go against the rules of the forum. I know that there's something with ban evasion, but the user has been dealing fairly for a long time and that's why such a user deserves at least a second chance.

I'm waiting for HedgeFX to repay his loan so once again the members can see that how honest he is with the forum and with the ones who trusted him. The lenders have lent him money because they knew that the user is honest and would repay the money including interest on time. I know that this time things might be a little tough for him, but I'm quite sure that he will clear up his image once again. I hope things will be good for him because he hasn't scammed or done anything wrong with anyone on this forum. However, the final decision is still in the hands of the admins and moderators.

[Timelord2067]

HedgeFx has engaged in some sleight of hand with a ban evading thread asking for another loan - take a good look at the wallet address that the lender has quoted and claims to have paid the borrower $500 into

https://tronscan.io/#/address/TFqN1GmbXtQNZu1BsuhrExzpKLszXBfQ4U

Two days ago there were two dust transactions TO that wallet address, then $500 went FROM that address to another wallet address. (see below)  

This is a post as reference for new loan of 500 usdt loan discussed with Hopenotlate:

Loan Amount: 500 usdt
Loan Purpose: Personal
Loan Repay Amount: 550 usdt
Loan Repay Date: On or before August 5
Type of Collateral: None
TRC20 - USDT address: TFqN1GmbXtQNZu1BsuhrExzpKLszXBfQ4U
 
**Address Staked Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403092.msg60700546#msg60700


@hopenotlate: please confirm after sent
@DT member: please Tag this loan om My trust as usual.

Thank you

Sent right now.

Providing repayment addy in PM.

Eleven minutes later, HedgeFx claims to have received the payment - how? The funds went FROM the wallet address he was asking they be sent TO.  The outbound occurred hours *after* HedgeFx claims to have received $500 (but didn't).

https://ninjastic.space/search?title=HedfeFX <-- Misspell their own profile name  

https://ninjastic.space/post/62582475 - (The actual post was deleted by mods due to ban evasion).

Are lender and borrower one and the same ?? @Theymos @LoyceV @DireWolfM14 @1miau @yahoo62278

[DireWolfM14]

HedgeFx has engaged in some sleight of hand with a ban evading thread asking for another loan - take a good look at the wallet address that the lender has quoted and claims to have paid the borrower $500 into

https://tronscan.io/#/address/TFqN1GmbXtQNZu1BsuhrExzpKLszXBfQ4U

Two days ago there were two dust transactions TO that wallet address, then $500 went FROM that address to another wallet address. (see below)  

Eleven minutes later, HedgeFx claims to have received the payment - how? The funds went FROM the wallet address he was asking they be sent TO.  The outbound occurred hours *after* HedgeFx claims to have received $500 (but didn't).
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The link you provided only shows Tron transactions.  There was no inbound Tron transaction for receiving the USDT.  There was an outbound Tron transaction (gas) when he sent or exchanged the coins.

This link shows the transfers tab, and it shows that the address received 500 Tether at 14:12:06 UTC on 21 July 2023

https://tronscan.org/#/address/TFqN1GmbXtQNZu1BsuhrExzpKLszXBfQ4U/transfers

[Timelord2067]

Hey thanks for answering my question and pointing that out.

[hopenotlate]

HedgeFx has engaged in some sleight of hand with a ban evading thread asking for another loan - take a good look at the wallet address that the lender has quoted and claims to have paid the borrower $500 into

https://tronscan.io/#/address/TFqN1GmbXtQNZu1BsuhrExzpKLszXBfQ4U

Two days ago there were two dust transactions TO that wallet address, then $500 went FROM that address to another wallet address. (see below)  

This is a post as reference for new loan of 500 usdt loan discussed with Hopenotlate:

Loan Amount: 500 usdt
Loan Purpose: Personal
Loan Repay Amount: 550 usdt
Loan Repay Date: On or before August 5
Type of Collateral: None
TRC20 - USDT address: TFqN1GmbXtQNZu1BsuhrExzpKLszXBfQ4U
 
**Address Staked Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403092.msg60700546#msg60700


@hopenotlate: please confirm after sent
@DT member: please Tag this loan om My trust as usual.

Thank you

Sent right now.

Providing repayment addy in PM.

Eleven minutes later, HedgeFx claims to have received the payment - how? The funds went FROM the wallet address he was asking they be sent TO.  The outbound occurred hours *after* HedgeFx claims to have received $500 (but didn't).

https://ninjastic.space/search?title=HedfeFX <-- Misspell their own profile name  

https://ninjastic.space/post/62582475 - (The actual post was deleted by mods due to ban evasion).

Are lender and borrower one and the same ?? @Theymos @LoyceV @DireWolfM14 @1miau @yahoo62278

Again, and for the third time, put your money where your mouth is : with the ongoing one it is the third time I loan 500 usdt on tron network to user HedgeFx.
Your accuses of me being the same person as HedgeFx are plain bullshit.
Lets bet $1500 ( the total amount lent out to that user by me) or whatever greater amount your are comfortable with, I can demonstrate tx really happened and your are talking bullshit about me.

PS : before acting as forum police at least try to have a clue on how a usdt transaction on tron network works.

[yahoo62278]

Are lender and borrower one and the same ?? @Theymos @LoyceV @DireWolfM14 @1miau @yahoo62278

If you don't know what you're doing, better to not do it. FYI I talk with hopenotlate on telegram a shitload. He is not HedgeFx, not even close. What's the reason for this witch hunt you appear to be on?

[DireWolfM14]

PS : before acting as forum police at least try to have a clue on how a usdt transaction on tron network works.

If you don't know what you're doing, better to not do it.

I don't like ridiculing people for their lack of shitcoin knowledge, this is The Bitcoin Forum after all.  I've never used Tron, and had to dig around for a few minutes to find the information I posted above.  It's understandable that a bitcoiner finds it difficult to wrap their head around smart-contract shitcoinery.

[yahoo62278]

PS : before acting as forum police at least try to have a clue on how a usdt transaction on tron network works.

If you don't know what you're doing, better to not do it.

I don't like ridiculing people for their lack of shitcoin knowledge, this is The Bitcoin Forum after all.  I've never used Tron, and had to dig around for a few minutes to find the information I posted above.  It's understandable that a bitcoiner finds it difficult to wrap their head around smart-contract shitcoinery.

Not meant as ridicule, if he doesn't know what he's doing he shouldn't accuse based in the information he thinks he has is all. Not to mention I know for a fact he is 100% wrong here as far as the loan goes. I cannot say anything regarding the accounts being connected.

[DireWolfM14]

Not meant as ridicule, if he doesn't know what he's doing he should accuse based in the information he thinks he has is all. Not to mention I know for a fact he is 100% wrong here.

I don't have the information that you have, but I agree there's nothing to suggest that the two accounts are connected.  As for the information he had, we're all in the same boat, i.e. we don't know what we don't know.  He posted his question, I responded, then he thanked me for the information.  Seems to me that he recognized his error in this case.  I don't know if that means he's done looking into HedgeFx, but if he needs more corrections in the future we'll be here to help.

[HedgeFx]

I am very annoyed with timelord behavior.
I feel offended by these constant accusations and by the fact that this user complains about everything I do, questioning not only me but above all those who deal with me.