What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

[bitbollo]

unfortunately when there is money involved, even family members have issues, of course...two people who weren't even so close friends it's a serious issue....

in general, in these situations it is always better to clarify everything regarding the bet/money
in the past I made "funny" bets with some friends who turned out to be successful... but no discussions, it's not good wasting time on certain things, in many cases a friend is worth much more than the amount won.

[yahoo62278]

You should know how your friends are and if you can trust them. Either way, they shoulda made bets from their own accounts and not had to worry about any split. Plenty of shady punks out there and not worth losing a friend over a bet, but at least the guy found out his friend was shady.

[piebeyb]

This doesn't make sense, just because the account belongs to a person he can't take the major share of the winning. Maybe if the two have got difference of opinion on the pick and the account owner have opted for the right choice, then he could have a bit more than the friend who agreed to go with his choice.

In these days these kind of situations won't happen, because opening an account for the purpose of gambling is very simple and tutorials were available on how to make deposits, withdrawal and play.

Yes, it doesn't make sense, but if you really use someone else's account, there should be an agreement even if it's our own friend, because money doesn't recognize friendship, so please keep that separate, there must be an agreement to share the results when you win, even if the account holder doesn't put money into it. betting and only with an account, but it's best if you want to do that you have to make an agreement.

I personally probably would never lend my account to my friends to gamble because it would be inconvenient for me later if a dispute like this happened, so in the middle just teach my friend to create an account and make a deposit then drive him to gamble himself so he doesn't use my account. money can destroy friendships so it's best to avoid unnecessary things like this.

[maydna]

unfortunately when there is money involved, even family members have issues, of course...two people who weren't even so close friends it's a serious issue....

in general, in these situations it is always better to clarify everything regarding the bet/money
in the past I made "funny" bets with some friends who turned out to be successful... but no discussions, it's not good wasting time on certain things, in many cases a friend is worth much more than the amount won.

It can even trigger a big fight between them, happening everywhere. Money can be a source of problems if we don't agree on how the money we get from gambling.

We should maintain a friendship than fight just because of money. It will be more difficult to find friends who are understanding with us so we have to really take care of them. And to place a bet, we don't need to combine our money with friends' money if it can trigger a fight with them. We can just use our own money, and they also use their own money, so whatever happens, it will be at each other's risk.

[Furious 7]

Let alone with friends, sometimes for family too sometimes we have some problems when talking about money let alone this is only bound by friendship, obviously this will be a little risky even though we already trust there are still some things that should not be equated, especially for financial matters.
Escrow may be a good option but when it comes to gambling I think doing it yourself would be much better than we bother to think of some conditions where it makes us hassle in the end.
There are some things that we might be able to share with friends but when it comes to money sometimes this is different because in this case there still has to be boundaries to minimize so that we avoid divisions.

There are moments on which you would just simply neglect on what things should be done in terms of money engagement or agreement since you are really just dealing with your close friend or with family on which you

are really that confident that when it comes to trust then you could somewhat be that knowing that there would be no conflicts on the time that you would really be dividing those winnings if ever it turns out to be positive
but we cant really be able to avoid that there are certain individuals on which they are really that indeed greedy and doesnt care on what other people would feel about it and they would really be having that kind of
entitling themselves just because they do own the account or whatsoever that they would be able to reason just to get the bigger cut.

For you that you are really that making up those fair and square dealing and agreeing earlier then you would really be having that kind of rage inside on what happened. You should have
able to get the equal share and not something that would be lesser on what you do expect. So argumentation would really be next in line depending on what kind of person you are whether
you would be that forgiving or would really be liking to argue your rights.

Indeed, this is also actually adjusting when doing something and I quite agree with the words based on trust that you conveyed but of course we realize this trust must exist for both parties. sometimes when we fully trust a friend does not mean that friends can also do the same because it could be the other way around so in this case when you really don't want to get into trouble and friendship is threatened then the option is not to do something like that.
In terms of business I might still consider joining with other people to strengthen the business but for gambling I think I still like to do it alone.
Although in this case of course we know that this also depends on the choice of each because it is not wrong to combine with money as long as the distribution is clear but for me personally I still like to do it alone.

[lionheart78]

unfortunately when there is money involved, even family members have issues, of course...two people who weren't even so close friends it's a serious issue....

in general, in these situations it is always better to clarify everything regarding the bet/money
in the past I made "funny" bets with some friends who turned out to be successful... but no discussions, it's not good wasting time on certain things, in many cases a friend is worth much more than the amount won.

It can even trigger a big fight between them, happening everywhere. Money can be a source of problems if we don't agree on how the money we get from gambling.

We should maintain a friendship than fight just because of money. It will be more difficult to find friends who are understanding with us so we have to really take care of them. And to place a bet, we don't need to combine our money with friends' money if it can trigger a fight with them. We can just use our own money, and they also use their own money, so whatever happens, it will be at each other's risk.

I highly agree, as a matter of fact, there are lots of supposed to be strong friendships that crumble down when money is involved.  I have a personal experience with this when I decided to lend $7.5k to my friend to support his photobooth business.  When the time comes that I needed the money he put me on ignore lol.  Though it is not related to gambling but this simply shows that money can break a person's friendship when one party decided to scam the other one.

[Maslate]

unfortunately when there is money involved, even family members have issues, of course...two people who weren't even so close friends it's a serious issue....

in general, in these situations it is always better to clarify everything regarding the bet/money
in the past I made "funny" bets with some friends who turned out to be successful... but no discussions, it's not good wasting time on certain things, in many cases a friend is worth much more than the amount won.

Just like what everybody else's saying, money is the root of all evil.

It was already written in the past and many people have already died for their fight for the money, and we cannot even blame them because indeed we need it in-order to survive in this harsh world. I know we all know it, so I don't really think why some gamblers are merging with each other to have a much bigger capital because that will just get them into a fight that they wouldn't want to be in, and even if they have a good plan and mindset while doing it, it's still unsafe for the both of them because when problems starts to challenge them, they will fail eventually.

[n0ne]

When money gets prioritised we can't explain anymore to the person. They'll have an understanding and they'll follow it. Gambling for fun needs to be the mentality, in such scenario we can be sure that such problems won't arise. Another thing we should have the better understanding about the fellow gambler and make plans of combined bets. Fighting at the end doesn't gonna get the problem solved and it leads to break of relationship.

[stomachgrowls]

You should know how your friends are and if you can trust them. Either way, they shoulda made bets from their own accounts and not had to worry about any split. Plenty of shady punks out there and not worth losing a friend over a bet, but at least the guy found out his friend was shady.

Lets say that you've been friends for a long time already and you have no doubt on trusting it out just because he had said about on handling it out and since you've been friends for long then you wont really be expecting
something like this but its true that there are fellas who doesnt really care a long time friendship just for the money in exchange that they could possibly be able to get or take advantage on.It is really just that sad that there are people who are really like this which it is really normal that you would really be having this kind of reaction on the time that you had been cheated or getting the unfair deal. We cant really tell that we arent that minding or just simply neglecting or ignoring this kind of situation.

We know that if ever there are things which would stepped out on our basic principles in life then it would really be just that normal that we would really be reacting and doing things which are supposed to be done specially into this condition or situation. Getting cheated or getting advantaged on is never been that good or appealing on someone. So it is really that normal to be on that way.
If this one cant really be solved out through talking or negotiation then this would be ending on breaking up your friendship or people who are you dealing with.

[yahoo62278]

You should know how your friends are and if you can trust them. Either way, they shoulda made bets from their own accounts and not had to worry about any split. Plenty of shady punks out there and not worth losing a friend over a bet, but at least the guy found out his friend was shady.

Lets say that you've been friends for a long time already and you have no doubt on trusting it out just because he had said about on handling it out and since you've been friends for long then you wont really be expecting
something like this but its true that there are fellas who doesnt really care a long time friendship just for the money in exchange that they could possibly be able to get or take advantage on.It is really just that sad that there are people who are really like this which it is really normal that you would really be having this kind of reaction on the time that you had been cheated or getting the unfair deal. We cant really tell that we arent that minding or just simply neglecting or ignoring this kind of situation.

We know that if ever there are things which would stepped out on our basic principles in life then it would really be just that normal that we would really be reacting and doing things which are supposed to be done specially into this condition or situation. Getting cheated or getting advantaged on is never been that good or appealing on someone. So it is really that normal to be on that way.
If this one cant really be solved out through talking or negotiation then this would be ending on breaking up your friendship or people who are you dealing with.

I'm trying real hard to not be mean and call you a spammer here but wtf did I just read? I understand part of it, but there was so much in your reply that made it super hard to follow.

You might consider short and straight to the point when replying on a topic. Obviously I know English is likely not your 1ST language, so maybe study on that a little more as well.

[Cookdata]

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place  using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account  insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

This is not the case of a fellow gamblers fighting each other, this is just another random players who won a bet and are trying to outsmart each other because of their greed. If indeed they are friends as u claim OP, I don't think there should be a fight in the first place as they both agreed to put money together, by that they both know that they will be splitting the money if the outcome favour which of course did or they will take the loss but they are fighting each other, they forgot that money will finish one day and friendship is an everlasting thing.

There is a lesson to be learn from this, in everything you do in this life, make sure it is documented as an evidence, if the guy had transfer the money to the friend as an evidence, he will get his money back if he decided to push it with the law, because it's clearly a cheating and fraud to deny an agreement you both made in the beginning.

[Die_empty]

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place  using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account  insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I can't comprehend why they decided to merge money to bet. This is never a good idea because it could lead to ugly events like this. But I will never engage in a fight because of money. If gambling is not illegal in the country, the best option will be to report the matter to the police. Fighting can have more dire consequences like injury or even death. The police will devise means of settling the issue. I can even take legal action if the money is huge. But if gambling is illegal, I will report issue to his family and friends to see if they can persuade him to do the needful. But if all my attempts fail, I will gladly accept what he is willing to give to me. But it will be my last time to associate with him.

When money gets prioritised we can't explain anymore to the person. They'll have an understanding and they'll follow it. Gambling for fun needs to be the mentality, in such scenario we can be sure that such problems won't arise. Another thing we should have the better understanding about the fellow gambler and make plans of combined bets. Fighting at the end doesn't gonna get the problem solved and it leads to break of relationship.

In some cases, you will never know the true behavior of a friend until it gets to money matters. They place more importance on money than any other thing. But they fail to grasp that money comes and goes, but there is a priceless friendship that lasts forever.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place  using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account  insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

That's pathetic.

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

As I'm getting older I'm losing the impulsiveness typical of young people and I'm not going to gamble anything halfway with someone else, unless it's something symbolic, a dinner or something like that, so I don't even consider that scenario. Besides, neither my friends nor I are like that fucking retard who wanted to more money because the bet was placed from his account, so I don't consider it.

[Kakmakr]

Well, I think I will also be pissed if I went into a gentleman's agreement with someone else and then they do not honor the agreement. So, I have to take the losses and he gets to take the spoils when he wins the bet.

They say, there are no honor amongst thieves... but I think the same thing applies to gamblers.... or should I rather say, gambling addicts.

[maydna]

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I highly agree, as a matter of fact, there are lots of supposed to be strong friendships that crumble down when money is involved.  I have a personal experience with this when I decided to lend $7.5k to my friend to support his photobooth business.  When the time comes that I needed the money he put me on ignore lol.  Though it is not related to gambling but this simply shows that money can break a person's friendship when one party decided to scam the other one.

And there are even friendships that are ruined because of money. I once read in a local newspaper that it was reported that someone killed his own best friend because his best friend did not want to pay the money that was used for joint capital. His friend's reason was that his joint venture had not been able to generate big profits, and he wanted to use the money he got from the sale to expand his business. But that person's excuse was unacceptable because it had not been returned for more than 6 months and violated the agreement. So using shared money is very risky unless each party can take care of it and trust each other.

[naira]

I have seen cases like this happen, but the difference is that both parties are not equally selfish even though they win because both parties are solid in agreeing on the percentage of winnings to be divided.

In my opinion, gambling is not for one account with 2 people, the point is that gambling is better for privacy, because then losing or winning will not cause disputes with other parties. I don't like to make bets for other people. It was very surprising when you could create each account, why did you have to place bets on other people's accounts. After all, victory will never be exchanged. So carelessness between 2 parties who are immature with each other will only cause chaos.

[justdimin]

unfortunately when there is money involved, even family members have issues, of course...two people who weren't even so close friends it's a serious issue....

in general, in these situations it is always better to clarify everything regarding the bet/money
in the past I made "funny" bets with some friends who turned out to be successful... but no discussions, it's not good wasting time on certain things, in many cases a friend is worth much more than the amount won.

This always happens. I'm referring to betting for fun, or betting when you are not expecting anything but these bets are usually the ones who are successful or the ones that can give you more profit. It's great that you didn't have an argument with your friends right after the incident. Not all people value money so much, that they will do anything only to get the most of it even the return of it is they will hurt someone else.

You are right and besides money can always be found. Sometimes easily but a true friend that we already have now will take a long time for us to see a replacement once we destroy the friendship that we already built on them, so we need to take care of it.

[Jawhead999]

I have seen cases like this happen, but the difference is that both parties are not equally selfish even though they win because both parties are solid in agreeing on the percentage of winnings to be divided.

In my opinion, gambling is not for one account with 2 people, the point is that gambling is better for privacy, because then losing or winning will not cause disputes with other parties. I don't like to make bets for other people. It was very surprising when you could create each account, why did you have to place bets on other people's accounts. After all, victory will never be exchanged. So carelessness between 2 parties who are immature with each other will only cause chaos.

Such case happen when the two gambler pick a same number, fighter or team and there's no rule about a special case if there are more than one winner, the prize is split among two winners.

I think the reason why there's someone ask to gamble for him is his account get limit or terminated by the casino, so he try to find other gambler who's willing to place bet for him. If the casino can't make a decision to split the prize, they're not have good ethic because they're want to see a conflict.

[arwin100]

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I highly agree, as a matter of fact, there are lots of supposed to be strong friendships that crumble down when money is involved.  I have a personal experience with this when I decided to lend $7.5k to my friend to support his photobooth business.  When the time comes that I needed the money he put me on ignore lol.  Though it is not related to gambling but this simply shows that money can break a person's friendship when one party decided to scam the other one.

And there are even friendships that are ruined because of money. I once read in a local newspaper that it was reported that someone killed his own best friend because his best friend did not want to pay the money that was used for joint capital. His friend's reason was that his joint venture had not been able to generate big profits, and he wanted to use the money he got from the sale to expand his business. But that person's excuse was unacceptable because it had not been returned for more than 6 months and violated the agreement. So using shared money is very risky unless each party can take care of it and trust each other.

That's another unfortunate story to read since that incident might get avoided if the person hold the money did not became so greedy. If people participating on such activities will be fair and share the winnings either they get a small win or big for sure both parties will get satisfied with the result. But if something like this might happen then its better to move on and place our bet solely so that we will not experience that also we will not commit any mistake that we regret later on.

[FatFork]

Well, I think I will also be pissed if I went into a gentleman's agreement with someone else and then they do not honor the agreement. So, I have to take the losses and he gets to take the spoils when he wins the bet.

They say, there are no honor amongst thieves... but I think the same thing applies to gamblers.... or should I rather say, gambling addicts.

I can only imagine what it was like in the old days when that saying was coined, but nowadays, I find it hard to believe that a "gentleman's agreement" still exists. Everyone looks only at their own interests, often neglecting the well-being or concerns of others. And those driven by greed for wealth, which we can often meet in the gambling world, are often regarded as some of the worst.

That's why it's hard to trust anyone, unless you have a really high level of trust in them and a track record that shows they're trustworthy. It's always better to be cautious and skeptical, especially when dealing with money.