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Question: Who will be the winner of Liga Portugal 2022/23?
Porto - 4 (28.6%)
Benfica - 7 (50%)
Sporting - 2 (14.3%)
Braga - 0 (0%)
Other club... - 1 (7.1%)
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May 31, 2023, 06:00:12 PM
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What you said also makes sense.

What do you think?
Do I open a new topic, for the next season, or do we keep this one?

At least for me, I think it's better to organize, avoid spam and avoid low quality posts if you make a thread every season.
Mega threads are hard to follow in my experience
You can think until the next season  Cheesy

It just goes to show that the Bundesliga is more competitive as a whole.

In Portugal, the first 3 or 4 places can even be very competitive with each other, but the remaining 10 teams are very weak, losing almost all games with these 3 or 4 clubs. In the Bundesliga this is no longer the case, clubs lose more games against each other, making the competition more competitive.

It was my first season watching and betting on the Portuguese championship, and for sure it was because of you hahaha.
I didn't know it was like that until I followed it, the 4 teams are really much stronger than the rest. And although it seems good for these teams, after all they always win the championship, prizes etc, it is very bad when they are going to play against teams from other countries, like the Europe League or the Champions League.
Do you also share the same opinion?


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May 31, 2023, 07:05:27 PM
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It was my first season watching and betting on the Portuguese championship, and for sure it was because of you hahaha.
I didn't know it was like that until I followed it, the 4 teams are really much stronger than the rest. And although it seems good for these teams, after all they always win the championship, prizes etc, it is very bad when they are going to play against teams from other countries, like the Europe League or the Champions League.
Do you also share the same opinion?

Yes, usually Portuguese teams don't go very far in European competitions. Go after depending on the teams that are picking up along the way.
For example, this season if Benfica had managed to maintain their game rhythm throughout the season, they would certainly have managed to reach the Champions League final - we all recognize that they are better than Inter.

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June 03, 2023, 02:07:50 PM
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Yes, usually Portuguese teams don't go very far in European competitions. Go after depending on the teams that are picking up along the way.
For example, this season if Benfica had managed to maintain their game rhythm throughout the season, they would certainly have managed to reach the Champions League final - we all recognize that they are better than Inter.

I also share the same opinion about Benfica. The performance dropped a lot at the end of the season and in the two matches against Inter, if they had been playing as they did in the middle of the championship, they certainly wouldn't have lost 0-2 playing in Portugal, but unfortunately that's how it happened.

I don't have as much knowledge about Portuguese soccer as you do, but I think the problem is the lack of money invested in the smaller clubs, so that they can become stronger and have more than 4 very strong teams. Do you share the same opinion?

I see in other leagues, for example, that there are 8 or even 10 teams that are very strong, but that is where they have put a lot of money recently, like in the Premier League or in the Italian League, some groups put a lot of money in a small/medium club and they become strong in a few years.



Don't forget guys, tomorrow is the match Braga vs Porto  Wink



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June 03, 2023, 03:37:57 PM
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I don't have as much knowledge about Portuguese soccer as you do, but I think the problem is the lack of money invested in the smaller clubs, so that they can become stronger and have more than 4 very strong teams. Do you share the same opinion?

Undoubtedly. Sometimes there is even some investment in one or another small team, but the big ones end up buying 2 or 3 players right away, making the teams soon unbalanced again.

You know that in Portugal, all Portuguese players will want to play in one of the 3 big clubs, so even if these players often don't play in these big clubs, if they are approached by them, they want to go right away.

Usually the fans are from the club of that city, that's what happens in almost every country. But not in Portugal. There are usually 2 clubs, the city club and the big club. That is, for example, a fan of Famalicão is also a fan of one of the big ones (Benfica, Porto, Sporting). This makes it difficult for the little ones to grow.

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June 03, 2023, 08:19:57 PM
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Usually the fans are from the club of that city, that's what happens in almost every country. But not in Portugal. There are usually 2 clubs, the city club and the big club. That is, for example, a fan of Famalicão is also a fan of one of the big ones (Benfica, Porto, Sporting). This makes it difficult for the little ones to grow.
This situation is familiar for me, as similar things happens in my country. For me such things isn't normal when one day you're wearing scar of Famalicao and next day you support Benfica. And then what happens when both ''your'' teams play each other? With such attitude Portuguese league is going to stay 3 teams league and things aren't going to change soon.

BTW, mow Promotion/Relegation match between is played and Estrea leads Maritimo 1:0 after 55 minutes.

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June 03, 2023, 11:07:41 PM
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This situation is familiar for me, as similar things happens in my country. For me such things isn't normal when one day you're wearing scar of Famalicao and next day you support Benfica. And then what happens when both ''your'' teams play each other? With such attitude Portuguese league is going to stay 3 teams league and things aren't going to change soon.

Well, it's not easy.
It depends on each person, but normally they end up supporting the local club, because they know that Benfica will have many fans from abroad.


BTW, mow Promotion/Relegation match between is played and Estrea leads Maritimo 1:0 after 55 minutes.

I liked that Estrela da Amadora managed to win and move up in the rankings. This one has advantage for the second leg, we'll see if they'll make it.

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June 03, 2023, 11:40:17 PM
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For a moment I doubted Benfica about making it to the league title. Because especially after that draw on the previous week made the point gap with Porto 2. This helped Porto keep their chance for the league title even on the final week. But getting a clear win against Santa Clara sealed the deal for the championship for Benfica of course.

It was still a hard-fought win in the final moments and they finally put an end to their longing of three years for the Liga Portugal title. There is a serious level of drop in Sporting's effort which led them to join the Europa League this time. Sporting are having serious issues with going back to their competitive times in the league.

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June 04, 2023, 02:10:31 PM
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Usually the fans are from the club of that city, that's what happens in almost every country. But not in Portugal. There are usually 2 clubs, the city club and the big club. That is, for example, a fan of Famalicão is also a fan of one of the big ones (Benfica, Porto, Sporting). This makes it difficult for the little ones to grow.

In Brazil the situation is similar
It's a huge country, with continental proportions, so there are many teams, as far as I know there are 650 active teams in Brazil, so it is normal that the fan chooses a big team, which is more famous, disputes titles and has great players, and also supports the team from his city.
And it is very important that this happens, otherwise the smaller teams would not have money to continue the work, after all, the fans buy T-shirts, buy tickets, attend the games, are members of the teams, and this helps the small towns in general, and stimulates the sport.
This also has a good cause: almost every year in Brazil there are smaller teams that play very well and are very successful, with new and unknown players.



I am looking forward to the last match of the season.
Porto is today's favorite, no doubt about it, the team has won the Portugal Cup 26 times, while Braga has won it only 3 times.
Porto also finished above Braga in Liga Bwin

But I point out here that Braga faced more difficult opponents to reach the final, even eliminating the champion Benfica
In the 2 matches between the teams, Porto won 4-1, and then had a 0-0 draw

The match will start in 2 hours guys, there's still time to make your bet  Smiley

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June 04, 2023, 07:03:23 PM
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Don't forget guys, tomorrow is the match Braga vs Porto  Wink

this was a game in which the result of the game was already expected, also things like: red card was already expected, I was just surprised not to have seen a penalty, this time they were more creative, it was an own goal in the 53rd minute and when I thought the penalty in favor of porto would come, which was something I expected to happen, and when I saw porto's red card, at that time I said to myself: porto wins this game with 100% certainty, there is no more nothing else that Braga could do to reverse this result, because even in that situation where Porto had a reduced player, it was just a matter of time for Braga to be reduced too

because it was necessary to maintain a good appearance, the braga player also received a red card, a minute later porto scored the second goal, with that the victory for porto was already guaranteed. anyway, it was another game in which porto won and their fans will sing about everything they won, they don't even bother to look at how they won, I hope that next season I can see porto winning games without having a penalty, red card or self goal

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June 04, 2023, 09:56:41 PM
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because it was necessary to maintain a good appearance, the braga player also received a red card, a minute later porto scored the second goal, with that the victory for porto was already guaranteed. anyway, it was another game in which porto won and their fans will sing about everything they won, they don't even bother to look at how they won, I hope that next season I can see porto winning games without having a penalty, red card or self goal

Unfortunately, I see this as unlikely.
Knowing the championship well, next season will be much more controversial.

What we've seen happen in the last 2 months with Porto, we'll see happen shortly after the start of the championship, especially if things don't start there very well. Not to mention the psychological pressure that Porto will put on referees and opposing teams.

If the other teams want to overcome Porto, they really have to play much better, because Porto will have a lot of advantage.

While the Portuguese football leaders do not change and stop having the vices of the past, we will have a lot of this.

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June 05, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
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this was a game in which the result of the game was already expected...

hahaha I'm glad I didn't bet against Porto



If anyone is interested you can watch the highlights here, just 5 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KcZINRFcfE




If the other teams want to overcome Porto, they really have to play much better, because Porto will have a lot of advantage.

While the Portuguese football leaders do not change and stop having the vices of the past, we will have a lot of this.

I look forward to seeing how it will be next year.
If you guys are confident that Porto will be the champion in 2023-24 it will be a good bet, and you can bet earlier
An interesting detail, the 40-year-old Pepe has his contract renewed with Porto until June next year, so he is already guaranteed a place in next year's championship. Incredible

I will wait to see how the transfers and reinforcements of each team will be. If Benfica continues with their players and brings 1 or 2 good players, they can keep this good year and focus on the Champions League next year.

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June 05, 2023, 04:45:18 PM
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I look forward to seeing how it will be next year.
If you guys are confident that Porto will be the champion in 2023-24 it will be a good bet, and you can bet earlier
An interesting detail, the 40-year-old Pepe has his contract renewed with Porto until June next year, so he is already guaranteed a place in next year's championship. Incredible

I will wait to see how the transfers and reinforcements of each team will be. If Benfica continues with their players and brings 1 or 2 good players, they can keep this good year and focus on the Champions League next year.

Attention, I didn't say that Porto will win next year!

What I said is that we will certainly see Porto games, very similar to what happened in the last games of this season, right from the beginning of the championship. Fouls that don't make much sense, penalties after penalties. Anyway... what we've been talking about for the last few weeks. Not to mention the great psychological games that will exist.

It will be a very interesting championship, no doubt.


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June 12, 2023, 10:08:58 AM
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In the play-out match, maritimo managed to defeat their opponent 2-1.In the first match, the opponent had beaten maritimo 2-1 and as such, the match went into extra time.When there was no goal in extra time, estrela managed to defeat their opponent in penalties.When we look at the overall match, maritimo played a very good football, but they had problems in finding goals and could not find more goals.maritimo, who took 26 shots, managed to score 2 goals and it is actually a sad result for them.

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June 13, 2023, 09:32:29 PM
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Attention, I didn't say that Porto will win next year!

Don't worry, I know  Cheesy

What I said is that we will certainly see Porto games, very similar to what happened in the last games of this season, right from the beginning of the championship. Fouls that don't make much sense, penalties after penalties. Anyway... what we've been talking about for the last few weeks. Not to mention the great psychological games that will exist.
It will be a very interesting championship, no doubt.

I watched some matches live and some things happened that can have a polemic interpretation yes, some goals in the last minute, some goals where the defenders made mistakes that are difficult to make
But in the end, Benfica prevailed, and the final matches were very exciting

Making a brief summary, I really liked betting on the Portuguese championship, the fact that the 4 main teams are MUCH stronger than the rest makes the matches a little easier to predict, of course the odds follow this trend and pay less, but I can make multiple bets that I avoided in other leagues
I still need to do the math, but I think it was the league where I got more right guesses

Does the next season really start in August? Does anyone know the official date?

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June 14, 2023, 06:31:31 AM
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Does the next season really start in August? Does anyone know the official date?

Yes, there is already a scheduled date to start next season.
It is scheduled to start on August 13. But the schedule of the games is not yet known.

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August 05, 2023, 08:33:13 AM
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A new topic was created for the 2023/24 season, where everyone is invited to participate.

Topic closed.

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