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July 16, 2023, 08:16:57 PM
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What a joke... What comes next? House edge is a homophobic feature by casinos? Gays can't lose on long term gambling, otherwise it's discrimination? Virtual casinos will start being sued if not including the one thousand gender options when creating the profile on the platform?
Sorry, but I can reply to bullshit only with more bullshit...
Casinos have to care for their customers in general, and not create sub-groups of customers, what will inevitably end in treating different customers in different ways. That doesn't look good.
Doesn't matter if you are a man, woman and doesn't matter your sexual orientation. Just act politely, soberly and following the local etiquette and you will be fine.

Your reply made me laugh honestly, and unfortunately that’s so true! There’s no place in the world and we didn’t hear or see this community of LGBTQ+ directly or indirectly are asking for special treatment. We saw football clubs, companies, countries supporting them and asking for their rights. With thousands of organizations and human rights….. while there’s nothing that support normal and regular people like us.
Now even in casinos and gambling industry ? We are not homophobies or anything, personally i don’t make any difference and I have no opinion about them. But this is too much

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July 16, 2023, 08:28:16 PM
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Society as a whole is always different towards something they're not used to. Until they get used to it, people will be treated differently. Some of the LGBTQ community can be pretty flamboyant and outgoing. If people are not used to that behavior, they will treat someone differently.

People in general should be nicer to their fellow man whether they be LGBTQ or not. Casinos might think about some sensitivity training or something to make sure they are doing a better job of not offending people.

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July 16, 2023, 08:59:34 PM
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Recently research was held by Dr Reece Bush-Evans who told that online gambling could Hide the sexuality of the LGBTQ+ people and most of these people prefer online gambling as compared to physical gambling for obvious reasons.

The more important concern for the LGBTQ+ people is that they are being treated differently in a casino which may come under harassment. Also, the study says that people at the casino, the staff plus the public have shown discriminatory behavior towards these people.

New Research Explores Effect of Gambling on LGBTQ+ People
I actually didn't think to research this, in fact I think most of the LGBTQ+ people prefer to gamble in online casinos because of the convenience and efficiency they get instead of having to go to a physical casino.
But it seems that people in the casino or the staff are unlikely to be abusive, as it is clearly against the rules and makes no sense at all.
Even so, we shouldn't easily believe in this research because LGBTQ+ are scattered in various countries so their reasons for choosing to play at online casinos have different reasons.
It's not bound to a particular gender group my friend. A lot of us here straight or in the spectrum sees online casinos as convenient alternatives to land casinos. I do think there's a reason why there's quite the propensity over LGBTQ+ people choosing online casinos over land-based ones, it's most likely within the constructs of gender discrimination and all that stuff which forces these people to seclude themselves and choose the option that wouldn't force them to face interactions with bigots and incels (which I might add is quite rampant in the industry sadly). But as things get more progressive and casinos see this group of gender as potential customers, we might see an increase in the number of people who's betting in land-based casinos that are within the spectrum.

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July 16, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
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I have nothing against that community and its people. But every sector of these specific groups and community looks like having their own sense of entitlement that they're discriminated against. How about those normal and no gender bias people that are also being discriminated against?
There's no gender preference in all forms of discrimination. Everyone can be a victim of it, a gambler or not, a member of LGBTQ+ or not as in everyone can be targeted by those establishments and individuals that do like to do so.
Gender is nothing in gambling, as long as you have the money to gamble you are welcome.
Though the society still have the issues with other gender but I think, you must ignore it and just focus on your gambling activities. If playing online makes you more confident to gamble then so be it, no one will judge you online and I agree about the discrimination if you are going to play on physical casinos, well that’s the reality.

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July 16, 2023, 09:16:11 PM
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How does that person know they are LGBTQ+? Is it because of the documents sent to the online casino or is there a behavior that is different from LGBTQ+ so there is discrimination against these people including from staff and other users?

I understand that LGBTQ+ is contradictory in some countries, there is still this ban even though LGBTQ+ is very strong in some countries, but I won't comment too much because for me LGBTQ+ is a contradictory gender.
it's kinda weird though. How can they know they are LGBTQ+ if newcomers don't say for themselves that they are LGBTQ+. I think for now all gambling houses will assume that all newcomers are those who really want to spend their saturated time gambling and there is no reason to discriminate against newcomers to their gambling houses.

And in my opinion, at this time maybe gamblers are more comfortable playing online gambling than going to gambling houses. But yes, it's all up to the researchers, of course they have found the case before they follow up on their research. On the other hand, if the staff do the same thing or discriminate against gambling players on the grounds of being LGBTQ+, then their gambling house may be empty of newcomers due to the unfriendly employees who work there.

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July 16, 2023, 09:17:26 PM
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Can I agreed this idea because most of them might not be that free and have this support to come openly to gamble but somehow may be more comfortable and convenient with online gambling where no one harass them or even discriminate against them as I believe some gambling site are very open. Irrespective of any gender they are free to gamble online without being to go physical shops.

Harassment can happen to anyone whether they are normal sexes or LGBTQ+.  The article stated that few instances where LGBTQ are harrassed when they engage in landbased casinos which also normally happen to normal sexes.  I also think that the reason why LGBTQ prefer online gambling is because of the convenience and not because they are harassed on the casino.  Aside from that gambling problem does not only happen to LGBTQ+ because of the stated reason on the article.  Normal sexes are also affected the same way.  So in my opinion, gambling affects LGBTQ+ the same way it affects the normal sexes.  Same goes with its effect.
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July 16, 2023, 09:27:07 PM
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Recently research was held by Dr Reece Bush-Evans who told that online gambling could Hide the sexuality of the LGBTQ+ people and most of these people prefer online gambling as compared to physical gambling for obvious reasons.

The more important concern for the LGBTQ+ people is that they are being treated differently in a casino which may come under harassment. Also, the study says that people at the casino, the staff plus the public have shown discriminatory behavior towards these people.

New Research Explores Effect of Gambling on LGBTQ+ People
Wasnt expecting for this considering that once you do play out gambling even on a physical place then people around you wont really be able to know if you dont show any signs about on your possible gender whether you are a lesbian or gay then there's no way for you to be noticed on.Unless if on how you do dress and behaved then for sure you would really be getting that kind of treatment on which its not really that shocking
that people are really that treating you up which it do seems that you do have done something.There's always  that discrimination towards these type of people which it isnt shocking on this very judgmental world.

If they do find out that they wouldn't really be that getting be treated up on gambling casinos online then its their choice. Everyone could freely make out in between online of offline gambling approach according into your
interest or choice and there's nothing we can do if the community would really be having this kind of approach or treatment into someone who do have this kind of gender.

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July 16, 2023, 09:27:57 PM
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Yes, that's correct. People who play online gambling can hide their identity easily because they don't need to show their face or body to other people. These people are just gambling from home, using the devices they like, and playing gambling comfortably while listening to music. Other gamblers will not know who is playing on the other side and vice versa. And it's true. This can prevent discrimination against anyone, including LGBTQ people. And online gambling seems to be preferred by many people because they don't need to go to a physical casino and can play gambling wherever they want.

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July 16, 2023, 09:33:00 PM
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Unless any one of these LGBTQ persons walks around with a placard or stamp making their sexuality a public show, I don't think it really does matter to casino staffs or owners who comes to gamble and their sexuality.
Gambling affects anyone in same way. The odds don't decide who to favor or not, unless the game is rigged somehow.

Also, there's a concern for these persona who have become so perverted that they can't control their urges in public and when they harass people with their portfolio of interest, it makes the management to enforce rules against such kinds or behavior and person, so as not to ruin the business or hurt its reputation.
Online gambling is preferred for a lot of reasons, but what makes it standout is anonymity.

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The study isn't yet complete we will have to wait until the end of this year to read the whole study, LGBTQ+ has a huge contribution in many fields and in many industries, society need not discriminate against them and should understand them, in many countries its hard to LGBTQ+ because there are no laws to protect them and if the  LGBTQ+ is not openly admitting he is one he could be in depression and that is why he resorts to gambling.

This is one of the reasons why there should be a law in every country accepting LGBTQ+ for them to be liberated from depression and from becoming addicted to gambling.

The report is interesting hopefully we can follow it up so we'll know more about  LGBTQ+ and addiction this is a concern of many countries because there's always a community of  LGBTQ+ in every country.

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Recently research was held by Dr Reece Bush-Evans who told that online gambling could Hide the sexuality of the LGBTQ+ people and most of these people prefer online gambling as compared to physical gambling for obvious reasons.

The more important concern for the LGBTQ+ people is that they are being treated differently in a casino which may come under harassment. Also, the study says that people at the casino, the staff plus the public have shown discriminatory behavior towards these people.

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The world will be a happy place if we stop creating problems to ourselves because I'm not sure perhaps it is the scientific exploration and research that has made some people to think out of the box, we basically have a male and a female by gender but some people feel we need more than that and that is where the genesis of this problems emanated from, why will a man would one day wake up and choose to become a woman, the world is becoming a crazy place, I thought humanity over religion is what we need, seems we need the religion to bring sanity to the world again.

I think there is law that allow business to reject LGBTQ from their circle, they shouldn't take it personal, my business my rule, they can call it whatever they choose to, but gambling regulations remain a uniform rule and there is no an exemptional rule for them, I don't think there is a policy for them or a rule that specify their use of campaign, they should choose to abide by the rules or live gambling until there is a rule of law that make give gambling a new policy for people to comply.

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But how are these people recognized by just Thier physical appearance? Isn't it more convincing when they know Thier lifestyle which would possibly take a long while?? - Assuming it's their first time in that casino house..
Secondly, casino owners don't even give a heck who's wagering thier funds - except the person involved is underage... All they need is enough profit at the end of the day...
Thirdly, the main interest when online casinos were developed was to ease the stress of moving up and down to either book games or claim winnings...

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July 16, 2023, 09:58:55 PM
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But how are these people recognized by just Thier physical appearance? Isn't it more convincing when they know Thier lifestyle which would possibly take a long while?? - Assuming it's their first time in that casino house..
Secondly, casino owners don't even give a heck who's wagering thier funds - except the person involved is underage... All they need is enough profit at the end of the day...
Thirdly, the main interest when online casinos were developed was to ease the stress of moving up and down to either book games or claim winnings...

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I believe these days, gender is not important anymore when it comes to going inside a land-based casino.
Time is changing and people are getting used to different lifestyles, different approach in life.
And yes, owners don't care about your gender preference, so long you are not making any trouble and spending your own money.
Maybe, if you go into a casino in a fairly remote area, where people knew each other, there will be talks behind your back.
But if you are going to a casino in the city, this kind of worry goes away. People are also changing their mindset when it comes to this aspect.
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July 16, 2023, 11:30:10 PM
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The more important concern for the LGBTQ+ people is that they are being treated differently in a casino which may come under harassment. Also, the study says that people at the casino, the staff plus the public have shown discriminatory behavior towards these people.

Does the research tell, at least, an accurate source of that data about the harassment of the LGBTQ in a physical casino? I mean, how it can be determined? Only thru surveys? What kind of harassment that these people are experiencing inside a casino?

As far as my main understanding is concerned, maybe the research only focuses on a few locations but the result obviously can't be generalized.

Honestly, as involved in gambling for many years, I never encounter news or related things that members of LGBTQ are being harassed within the casino premises. I believed most casino gamblers only care to win and do not bother with that kind of stuff related to LGBTQ. We can even notice a great social activity between fellow gamblers and staff.

Most casinos staffs also cared for their profession and casinos are strict on the part of how to entertain guests and customers as these staff are carrying the name of the said casino. For sure there are bad or worst casino staff but not to the point that the case of harassment is only focused on LBGTQ.

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July 16, 2023, 11:51:48 PM
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But how are these people recognized by just Thier physical appearance? Isn't it more convincing when they know Thier lifestyle which would possibly take a long while?? - Assuming it's their first time in that casino house..
Secondly, casino owners don't even give a heck who's wagering thier funds - except the person involved is underage... All they need is enough profit at the end of the day...
Thirdly, the main interest when online casinos were developed was to ease the stress of moving up and down to either book games or claim winnings...

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I believe these days, gender is not important anymore when it comes to going inside a land-based casino.
Time is changing and people are getting used to different lifestyles, different approach in life.
And yes, owners don't care about your gender preference, so long you are not making any trouble and spending your own money.
Maybe, if you go into a casino in a fairly remote area, where people knew each other, there will be talks behind your back.
But if you are going to a casino in the city, this kind of worry goes away. People are also changing their mindset when it comes to this aspect.

Gender is not an important factor, but people haven't got the transition. Even now they follow the age-old thoughts and keep up the discrimination. Equality should be found everywhere. It shouldn't be limited within specific gender or community. Its not the person's mistake. Nothing offensive, at times they want themselves to be shown unique and such mentality makes people to keep them separate. So, they were also a reason for the discrimination.

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July 17, 2023, 03:47:47 AM
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Gender is not an important factor, but people haven't got the transition. Even now they follow the age-old thoughts and keep up the discrimination. Equality should be found everywhere. It shouldn't be limited within specific gender or community. Its not the person's mistake. Nothing offensive, at times they want themselves to be shown unique and such mentality makes people to keep them separate. So, they were also a reason for the discrimination.

I disagree, Gender is still a big factor. In many underdeveloped countries, even females are treated differently. We are talking about the harassment for the LGBTQ people, I think people will stare and try to misbehave even if any female visits a male dominant casino, in some countries.

So you can understand how difficult is for the LGBTQ persons to live a normal life without getting mentally tortured by society. The only way to stop this behavior is to spread awareness to the masses through national media.

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July 17, 2023, 04:00:11 AM
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Recently research was held by Dr Reece Bush-Evans who told that online gambling could Hide the sexuality of the LGBTQ+ people and most of these people prefer online gambling as compared to physical gambling for obvious reasons.

The more important concern for the LGBTQ+ people is that they are being treated differently in a casino which may come under harassment. Also, the study says that people at the casino, the staff plus the public have shown discriminatory behavior towards these people.

New Research Explores Effect of Gambling on LGBTQ+ People

Another use case for online gambling... It is true that straight people don't really feel confident around those LGBTQ+ people and it is only natural. If a male only wants to bed women and disgusts the idea of bedding men, then this person won't want to see any male (as long as he has a dick he is a male) people around that want to bed him.

Maybe the government should build LGBTQ+ Pro Max casinos specificially designed for those people but no, they want to ruin the fun of us, straight people.

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Gender is not an important factor, but people haven't got the transition. Even now they follow the age-old thoughts and keep up the discrimination. Equality should be found everywhere. It shouldn't be limited within specific gender or community. Its not the person's mistake. Nothing offensive, at times they want themselves to be shown unique and such mentality makes people to keep them separate. So, they were also a reason for the discrimination.

I disagree, Gender is still a big factor. In many underdeveloped countries, even females are treated differently. We are talking about the harassment for the LGBTQ people, I think people will stare and try to misbehave even if any female visits a male dominant casino, in some countries.

So you can understand how difficult is for the LGBTQ persons to live a normal life without getting mentally tortured by society. The only way to stop this behavior is to spread awareness to the masses through national media.

Maybe the survey has been done wherein LBGTQ is accepted in the society? Not sure about it.

But as far as playing in casino for them just to get away from stress or from the environment that they grow up and because they are not accepted? maybe. However, we all know that gambling affects everyone. It has been part of the society even before this kind of groups have risen in the last couple of years.

So they can just go visit a casino even if it is male dominated, I don't think there should be a issue on that kind of setup.
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I disagree though, let me quote from the article,

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According to Dr Bush-Evans, “life stressors” such as discrimination, social isolation and harassment can serve as triggers to push some LGBTQ+ individuals to gambling. The research is still ongoing. The results from the completed study are expected to be published later this year.

I doubt that what triggers LGBTQ to gambling has nothing to do with harassment, for me just like the rest of us. They want to enjoy and have fun and to some extend  win some money just like the rest of us.

Just last night I went to a traditional base gambling and saw some members of the LGBTGQ community and just simply playing, simply as that. I doubt that they are there because they feel isolated or something. In fact they are all laughing and I even saw them getting drunk and no one cares.

Well, I may quote another text from the article which clearly states that LGBTQ+ people face harassment in their life and casino is not different place where they do not face the same situation.

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The study flagged that 71% of the interviewed LGBTQ+ adults admitted that they have experienced some form of discrimination or harassment in their life.

The complete case study and research will be published later this year and that report may reveal more shocking facts about this behavior by the society as a whole. I wish they come up with something to stop this act of people towards LGBTQ and treat them as a normal human being.

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Well, the article says that the research is ongoing and that the results will be published next year, but I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from a single study. I don't know where you live, but I find it hard to believe that my local casino discriminates against LGTBQ people, and, in fact, I've known people who work in casinos without ever hearing any such stories from them. Cases of discrimination, although they still exist, could not happen in a business open to the public like that because it would be reportable.

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