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July 20, 2023, 01:20:26 PM
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Inflation, of course, makes many things chaotic, I also feel that inflation makes it more difficult to save, many people even sell assets or go into debt to make ends meet because of inflation, of course this makes us have to be ready and always look for many sources of income.
Everyone's readiness to face inflation will be very different, even though you say we must always be ready to face it by seeking more sources of income. But some people will definitely be forced to be ready even though basically they are still not financially ready for the arrival of inflation, so this is what usually becomes a difficulty for some people during inflation because not everyone has adequate readiness to face inflation in their life.
Even before the inflation went high and before the pandemic, people were already having a hard time earning money for food. How much more now that everything is expensive, they struggle more? Those people who are saying to be ready must be in the middle class or rich class because they can be ready on it, but we that are below them, no matter how we say we should be ready, our finances can't. No matter how we say it, I know we need to find another source of income, but still, it is very hard to do it unless you are already earning a lot.
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July 20, 2023, 03:00:02 PM
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Even before the inflation went high and before the pandemic, people were already having a hard time earning money for food.

I think it is important to point this out, because the high inflation started before the war in Ukraine, something that Biden and other leaders have insisted on hiding. It was mainly due to the massive printing accumulated over the years, but especially the one that was exacerbated in March 2020 and later, apart from energy policies. The war only gave the coup de grâce to the previous breeding ground.

No matter how we say it, I know we need to find another source of income, but still, it is very hard to do it unless you are already earning a lot.

As you say, the best thing to do to beat inflation is to earn more, and I would add that if you can save, invest what you save to beat inflation (provided you already have an emergency fund). I have said it in several threads about it, the period of high inflation that started in the fall of 2021 caught me with a big increase in my income, so I almost didn't even notice it. I saw prices going up, but since I was earning more I could afford the increase, spend more and even save and invest more.

In other words, to people who are in the OP's situation, I would recommend that they try to get more income.

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July 20, 2023, 03:29:35 PM
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Inflation is really biting hard, and nobody is doing anything about it, should we all just go with what Tupac said, "that's just the way it is, things will never be the same".
A lot of person's have ascribed this global inflation to the crisis Rocking Ukraine and Russia,  a lot of person's have also said it's as a result of shortage of gas supply across Europe and other countries.
The whole story is not just clear, as to why inflation is biting so hard and IMF AND WORLD BANK are not doing anything about it and the people are just left to face their fate alone.
The prices of goods and services are constantly going astronomical high and there is no hope insight of this ugly situation coming to a halt.

What do you expect them to do? IMF can't control how countries recklessly print their own currency. Ukrainian war is partly responsible, so is the COVID era spending. Don't rely on fiat currency for long term savings. The central banks target inflation to be 2% yearly at best. If you spend fiat immediately, the effects are mitigated. Long term savings over 30-40 years mean your fiat will lose over half its value. Again, that's at 2% -- most currencies inflate at a higher rate.
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July 20, 2023, 03:40:47 PM
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How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?

Especially when I lived in a country with very high inflation I used to convert my savings into foreign currency (USD, EUR or GBP in general) in order to protect them. This is a good method that individuals living in countries with very high inflation often do and can maintain their purchasing power a little but today, strong currencies also lose their value in the face of inflation. For this reason, saving cash is no longer the logical and lucrative option it used to be.

I am currently living in a European country but unfortunately I cannot say that I have been able to save in any way due to my debts due to my health problems and my low salary. For this reason, at this stage I can say that I don't save in any way so that my savings do not lose value.
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July 20, 2023, 06:30:26 PM
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Especially when I lived in a country with very high inflation I used to convert my savings into foreign currency (USD, EUR or GBP in general) in order to protect them. This is a good method that individuals living in countries with very high inflation often do and can maintain their purchasing power a little but today, strong currencies also lose their value in the face of inflation. For this reason, saving cash is no longer the logical and lucrative option it used to be.
Some people living in other countries will choose to save foreign currency to maintain financial stability compared to the local country's currency, if you are based in a European country then this solution is not effective because the European region is more dominant for EUR options, but the current EUR conditions are not so convincing for savings after the impact of inflation. An alternative solution is recommended to convert savings into gold, after reviewing that gold guarantees the best stability compared to any currency to avoid the effects of inflation, gold is also easy to exchange at any time if you need to use savings funds.

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I am currently living in a European country but unfortunately I cannot say that I have been able to save in any way due to my debts due to my health problems and my low salary. For this reason, at this stage I can say that I don't save in any way so that my savings do not lose value.
I hope your health is fine, we have to survive no matter what the current inflation conditions are but you are lucky to have a savings fund for emergency needs, I hope your health will recover soon so you can be active again and we must take advantage of other opportunities that have the potential to increase our finances .

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July 20, 2023, 07:25:37 PM
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Even before the inflation went high and before the pandemic, people were already having a hard time earning money for food. How much more now that everything is expensive, they struggle more? Those people who are saying to be ready must be in the middle class or rich class because they can be ready on it, but we that are below them, no matter how we say we should be ready, our finances can't. No matter how we say it, I know we need to find another source of income, but still, it is very hard to do it unless you are already earning a lot.

It is now very difficult to have any source of income as artificial intelligence reduces earning potential, although television claims otherwise.  Wage levels are not changing, but inflation is reducing purchasing power. And there is no single solution to this problem.
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July 20, 2023, 10:21:51 PM
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This is how economies and monetary policy works. Decades of growth and "good times", paired with a lot of bad in a very short period. Just like Machiavelli concluded, to rule successfully, you must drag out the good news and when bad things must be revealed, do it all at once and very quickly. This is the only way to keep people complacent and to prevent uproar.

If economies reduced duration of stable times where people are at least content in order to reduce the blow/severity of economic troughs, which in turn extends trough duration, there would be much more uproar. As always, in the next 1-5 years, things will hit their worst and then get better, the people will be complacent once again for another 10-20 years after the dust has settled...then the cycle will repeat.
Machievelli basically wrote that in order to be heard, without getting beheaded for it so he presented it as a gift lol, so take his words with salt, he was an egoist who think he knew, but probably didn't. At the end of the day, inflation is required, in order for humanity to grow, and yes maybe not required this high, but it also can't be zero, that would be terrible, we need like at least 3% growth every year to make it look like we are getting richer.

The finite amount of money would not make that work, so we need to print more money as well, not this much of course. Savings can be recovered if you could invest into smart stuff, like bitcoin, and that will make it go up soo enough and be over ATH in the next year or two.

Despite the accuracy of what he said as a whole or who he was, (my conclusion is some good theories or explanations stemmed from him, but ultimately he was a terrible person) what he said about successful ruling is accurate in terms of how things go down in most countries ...not because they are following his lead or anything, but because that's just how it is and what works in terms of ruling people and preventing uprising.

As for what you are saying, inflation being higher than 3% is the result of lacking order of an economy. Mistakes that are coming to the surface...so many mistakes that things have spun out of control. The "yes we need to print but not this much" is a watered down way of saying that things are out of control, and is attempting to be resolved by infinite monetary policy.

As for whether or not inflation is required that's debatable. Though I'll leave the question or whether or not economies would survive without inflation once Bitcoin is adopted Wink
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July 21, 2023, 02:50:38 AM
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The gravity of the inflation is something that's felt different depending on where you find yourself. For the advanced countries the effect of the inflation could be mild on them when compared to those of the third world or developing countries of the south pole.
Well that's why I asked OP where he was from, because I assumed that wherever he is he's getting slammed by inflation worse than Americans are (for the moment anyway).  And believe me, I sympathize with folks who live in countries with poor economies and who work their asses off just to have inflation eat away at the purchasing power of their wages.  That shit's not right; it's never been right, but there have always been inflationary periods and we've all got to ride them out one way or another.

There are developing countries on the south pole?

But if I may ask, who almakes up this IMF? Where are they located? All answers leads to the West.
I know you're not asking me specifically, but I'll just answer anyway: I don't have a fuckin' clue.  I don't care, and I hope they die a slow, painful death.

All I can say to OP is to diversify into other means of income that's the only route to beating this inflation mess. Plan and curtail your expenses. Luckily for you, you have idea of bitcoin so invest more on bitcoin with your savings rather than it laying dormant in one bank account with no annual profit at the end of the year. Don't put your hopes on IMF or the world bank...... No one is coming to save you but you.
Bitcoin doesn't provide any income, and if you're suggesting that OP work another job I think it's probably not a bad idea if it allows him to sock away some money for investments (as opposed to savings).  Aside from bitcoin, he might want to look into the stock market if he's got any free cash.

Inflation is the theft of people's labor.
Again, that saying comes to mind that I don't always get correct.  It goes something like "inflation is theft, taxation is robbery" (or it's the other way around).  And you wonder why the average working person can't get ahead, can't save, can't pass on property to their children when they die.  All of that seems to be reserved for the rich--and bitching about it is pointless, since people have been doing it for centuries and yet nothing ever changes.

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July 21, 2023, 03:25:18 AM
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Even before the inflation went high and before the pandemic, people were already having a hard time earning money for food. How much more now that everything is expensive, they struggle more? Those people who are saying to be ready must be in the middle class or rich class because they can be ready on it, but we that are below them, no matter how we say we should be ready, our finances can't. No matter how we say it, I know we need to find another source of income, but still, it is very hard to do it unless you are already earning a lot.

It is now very difficult to have any source of income as artificial intelligence reduces earning potential, although television claims otherwise.  Wage levels are not changing, but inflation is reducing purchasing power. And there is no single solution to this problem.
with income that remains the same, we also have to prioritize the needs to be purchased, therefore, of course, we must be able to save as best as possible to get out of a difficult position. actually there are many business opportunities that can be run, but sometimes it is difficult for us to start, and we are afraid of failure. therefore we must fix mentally before moving on. Artificial intelligence can indeed provide answers to what we need, but of course humans still need each other to meet their needs, and we can take advantage of that

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Inflation is really biting hard, and nobody is doing anything about it, should we all just go with what Tupac said, "that's just the way it is, things will never be the same".
A lot of person's have ascribed this global inflation to the crisis Rocking Ukraine and Russia,  a lot of person's have also said it's as a result of shortage of gas supply across Europe and other countries.
The whole story is not just clear, as to why inflation is biting so hard and IMF AND WORLD BANK are not doing anything about it and the people are just left to face their fate alone.
The prices of goods and services are constantly going astronomical high and there is no hope insight of this ugly situation coming to a halt.

The purchasing powers of citizens are getting weak and I don't understand if the consumer protection laws are even effective anymore this days.
You buy something for a certain amount today, in the next one week, that same item you bought  has charged Prince without any reason.
How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?


Yes a lot of people now are affected with the inflation that is happening all over the world. The prices of goods and services dramatically increases that truly affects the low wage income earners. That is true that the purchasing power of citizens are getting weaker because the value of the money they are been holding is decreasing. Here in our country consumer protection law is now useless because the government cannot even regulate the prices of the goods the worst thing it even gets higher, with that the people are experiencing a very tight budget and they needed to adjust their budget to be able to sustain their daily needs.

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What do you expect them to do? IMF can't control how countries recklessly print their own currency. Ukrainian war is partly responsible, so is the COVID era spending. Don't rely on fiat currency for long term savings. The central banks target inflation to be 2% yearly at best. If you spend fiat immediately, the effects are mitigated. Long term savings over 30-40 years mean your fiat will lose over half its value. Again, that's at 2% -- most currencies inflate at a higher rate.
Money must work so that inflation cannot have such a significant impact on our funds. You are right that over time, inflation can greatly reduce the purchasing power of our funds, so we need to make sure that the money generates income, at least slightly exceeding the inflation rate, and ideally, we need investments that will also bring us income.

So far, bitcoin is able to cope with this task very well. I don’t want to say that you can buy bitcoin now and still make a good profit, although it is, but I still am of the opinion that we have had enough time to buy bitcoin at lower prices. But even those who are a little late with the purchase and buy now, still have a chance to at least double their investments, I don’t know what kind of investment in traditional directions can give the same result.
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July 21, 2023, 11:50:04 AM
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How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?

Hasn't inflation always been a problem in the world? but humans always have a way to overcome it because humans can always adapt well to everything that happens.
You can't fight inflation, which can be done by making adjustments so that you can still meet your main needs in full, one of which is by looking for additional income, just complaining won't change the situation and saving is only useful when things are urgent but to deal with inflation you have to start investing, right? just save because your fiat money will always go down in value.

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July 21, 2023, 12:21:01 PM
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You buy something for a certain amount today, in the next one week, that same item you bought  has charged Prince without any reason.
How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?

There will always be an inflation all the time and everyone is being affected here, but how do we stand out amidst this occurrence depends on the appropriate approach we administer to help us plan and prepare against the consequences of inflation in our own economy and finances, what are the investment we made, how do we decided to secure them, we are also expected to have an alternative means to financial income, we are to make diversification where necessary and we are to also remain committed to what we do and be sensitive enough in seing something coming before it hit us bad, we should most importantly be independent especially in this deteriorating financial economy and venture into bitcoin as an alternative digital currency that cannot be affected by inflation.
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July 21, 2023, 01:55:13 PM
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Some people living in other countries will choose to save foreign currency to maintain financial stability compared to the local country's currency, if you are based in a European country then this solution is not effective because the European region is more dominant for EUR options, but the current EUR conditions are not so convincing for savings after the impact of inflation. An alternative solution is recommended to convert savings into gold, after reviewing that gold guarantees the best stability compared to any currency to avoid the effects of inflation, gold is also easy to exchange at any time if you need to use savings funds.

I hope your health is fine, we have to survive no matter what the current inflation conditions are but you are lucky to have a savings fund for emergency needs, I hope your health will recover soon so you can be active again and we must take advantage of other opportunities that have the potential to increase our finances.

I have been living in Europe for the last two years but before that I was living in a country which is currency was unstable and depreciated rapidly. For this reason, in order to protect the purchasing power of my salary and savings I preferred foreign currencies (USD, EUR and GBP in general) and converted them into my own country's currency if I needed it. In today's conditions I don't need to choose a different currency since I live in a country that uses Euro and I try to make my savings in Euro. Of course, there is a decrease in my purchasing power due to inflation but this is not a disturbing situation as it is not as much as in my own country. After the completion of my debts, I plan to keep my savings by converting them into commodities, stocks and proven cryptocurrencies with very saving little cash.

Speaking about my health, I can say that I have recovered quite a bit lately and I'm much better than before. Spending almost all of my previous savings on health can be a bit frustrating but having a fund that I can use for my health problems has definitely helped me go through this process with less stress. My goal right now as I mentioned, will be to pay off all of the debt remaining from these expenses and then create capital for myself and use it in the opportunities that I will come across in the financial markets.
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July 21, 2023, 02:31:50 PM
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Even before the inflation went high and before the pandemic, people were already having a hard time earning money for food. How much more now that everything is expensive, they struggle more? Those people who are saying to be ready must be in the middle class or rich class because they can be ready on it, but we that are below them, no matter how we say we should be ready, our finances can't. No matter how we say it, I know we need to find another source of income, but still, it is very hard to do it unless you are already earning a lot.
You can't really count the middle class among the classes that are always ready to face any kind of economic situation and pandemics and inflation because they always have the necessary resources and a lot of money in spare to spend a lot of time without facing any issues just because the things are now expensive or the government is charging a lot of taxes for almost anything which a middle class or a lower class person cannot afford at any cost.

When there is high inflation, only the rich which are the upper class or the elite class can live their lives normally like nothing has happened, but those who are below those classes will suffer a lot, firstly because they don't earn a lot, secondly because they don't have a lot of money saved to be used in such times.
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How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?

Hasn't inflation always been a problem in the world? but humans always have a way to overcome it because humans can always adapt well to everything that happens.
You can't fight inflation, which can be done by making adjustments so that you can still meet your main needs in full, one of which is by looking for additional income, just complaining won't change the situation and saving is only useful when things are urgent but to deal with inflation you have to start investing, right? just save because your fiat money will always go down in value.

If people take a moment to learn about how the economy works, they will know that inflation is a part of the economy and it is always present in our lives. But most people won't feel it because it's under the government's control and doesn't affect them much, so they don't feel it. Most people just focus on enjoying life in a stable economy, they are not prepared for unexpected bad things. So when inflation gets out of control, things go bad quickly and they start complaining and blaming anyone.

Indeed, instead of trying to overcome difficulties, many people just complain and blame others even though it doesn't change anything for them.

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July 21, 2023, 03:36:38 PM
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Due to global economic problems, things like inflation are happening in different countries now. Many experts have called this phenomenon an epidemic because, just as an epidemic spreads rapidly and has a global impact, inflation spreads rapidly and has a global negative impact. Relatively less economically strong countries face such problems as the value of the dollar in their country gradually increases which in turn depreciates their local currency leading to an economic recession in the country. Inflation has not only destroyed your savings, there are many other people like you whose savings have been destroyed by inflation. If something like inflation happens, you will have to buy relatively less things with more money, as a result of which you will have to pay extra money to buy the things, that extra money will have to be paid from your savings account, thus many people's savings are getting lost just because of inflation.

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How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?

Especially when I lived in a country with very high inflation I used to convert my savings into foreign currency (USD, EUR or GBP in general) in order to protect them. This is a good method that individuals living in countries with very high inflation often do and can maintain their purchasing power a little but today, strong currencies also lose their value in the face of inflation. For this reason, saving cash is no longer the logical and lucrative option it used to be.

I am currently living in a European country but unfortunately I cannot say that I have been able to save in any way due to my debts due to my health problems and my low salary. For this reason, at this stage I can say that I don't save in any way so that my savings do not lose value.
It is understandable not to have any savings due to health problems, health comes before everything else and as long as you are capable of paying for your medical bills, that alone is good enough and I wish you a speed recovery to your full health. Do not aim at saving some money when you are facing these troubles, that would only give you more stress, if you are incapable of saving money but capable of saving yourself, that is a much better thing and you should do that if possible.

Of course the situation is that we are talking about something that is a bit challenging, and that's why it's going to take a bit of time and we are not going to end up with a situation where it's going to be easy. So take that with grain of salt. You could have troubles, but ignore the responsibilities for now, only focus on health.

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July 21, 2023, 04:15:07 PM
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How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?
There isn't much we can do about it. All I can say is that I try to adjust myself to the currently situation I'm facing. If prices are getting more expensive each new day I go to the supermarket, I stick myself with the promotions and cheapest items which fit my budget. If I'm going to eat out, I also look for the most affordable alternatives, and thankfully there are always some of them.

Despite the financial difficulties the world is facing, I think it's still possible to be fine following this recipe. At least I still have abundant food to eat and access to acquiring superfluous items every month thinking on personal self-esteem and welfare.

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You buy something for a certain amount today, in the next one week, that same item you bought  has charged Prince without any reason.
How are you guys pulling it through with this inflation?
When inflation occurs the prices of staple goods experience shocks related to purchase prices and scarcity can be a problem that causes goods to increase. Inflation or recession makes several sectors weak, the economy is unstable and the deflation rate is increasing. When talking about ways to get out of inflation, there are many things that we need to do independently or involve the government, one of which is saving the budget, stabilizing the prices of goods by the government and trying to increase production in the agricultural sector to support basic human needs.

The government sector and individuals play an important role for each other in conditions of inflation, but government policies become more important and the community can try to save costs and basic needs as a temporary means of subsistence in these conditions. When both are running well slowly inflation can be suppressed and slowly the economic strength will improve.

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