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July 17, 2023, 08:58:03 PM
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .
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July 17, 2023, 09:04:22 PM
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That is why you see new accounts that are growing and become old members that are posting good. If you come to this forum with this kind of mindset, I do not think you will be able to get merit at all.

Post something good and continue to post something good and you will not see the old members attacking the new members, but correcting the new members when you have established rank.

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July 17, 2023, 09:13:12 PM
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So once I post something good like how many paragraph .
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July 17, 2023, 09:26:08 PM
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So once I post something good like how many paragraph .

Paragraph doesn't really matter, just post something relevant. You can make a single line comment and it will be appreciated more than a seven paragraphs post.

Most times the reason why newbies are being criticized is because of the type of post they make. For example you as a newbie come to bitcointalk that has been in operation since 2009 and start to make tutorial threads on how to create a Bitcoin wallet.


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July 17, 2023, 09:26:33 PM
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Nobody is attacking anybody; it might feel as if newbies are being attacked in the eyes of other newbies because they are being corrected. It's only one who is not willing to accept correction who might take every little suggestion and correction as an insult and attack.
 
Everyone here on the forum is a newbie; no one created an account and was promoted to Legendary or any Rank higher than newbie; everything takes time and processing. Once you realize what you are really here for and make yourself relevant, you will earn the merit you talk about. Merit will come when you write something meaningful that is worth meriting.

I see your account is a few days away from reaching a year. You will have to change your mindset regarding how newbies are being treated before you can actually go forward in here. Having a positive mindset will give you positive vibes about things around here.

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July 17, 2023, 09:31:05 PM
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Your focus should be on what you can learn from the forum and not what you can get from it. Rather than trying to post for merit or to be noticed, treat this as a forum where people communicate and learn from each other.
Do things naturally and you will get the ultimate reward, which is Bitcoin knowledge.

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July 17, 2023, 09:31:24 PM
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So once I post something good like how many paragraph .
The number of paragraphs doesn't equate to a good post. a "good post" can be subjective, some members might see your post as good and others might not. also, posting what you think is a "good post" doesn't mean that the post will get merit.

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July 17, 2023, 09:42:40 PM
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long
Did you have any proof for this claim? If yes, then provide a link, because if you did not provide a link, it means you are just saying what you don’t know just because you have been spamming all sections since you joined the forum.

You have been spamming so many boards with one-line posts; how do you expect merit from such posts?

Try and learn, and you will see the results of having basic knowledge rather than sharing some information that is not relevant to the forum.

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The rules were very clear; you can be in the forum and interact with others even without having a single merit. The merit system was introduced to reduce spamming in the forum, which is why merit is a reward for quality posts and contributions in the forum.

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July 17, 2023, 09:54:24 PM
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The major problem faced by newbie is nothing than been eager to post without going through the rules of the board. A newbie who just want to post and interact with others finds it fun. However, that joy of belonging to a community of Bitcoin know-how must be channelled properly before going against the rule.

Do not see correction as attack,  I made some mistake while trying to understand how the forum works and thanks to those who corrected with love and those that pleaded on my behalf. 
As I said earlier, there is one way to avoid been rebuked for posting low quality post; read rules and regulations guiding every board you want to post. Posting against the set standard is considered an infringement.

If you do the right thing , then be strong to continue doing the right thing, avoid multiple posting or unnecessary reply and be selective in your choice of words.
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July 17, 2023, 10:03:58 PM
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I do not see any attack being done for the newbies here. The majority of the old members here are even welcoming to the new members because that's what we want, we're here to help each other.

We've been there once before and we know the feeling of being new but, there's no attack that's happening. Maybe the redirection that some of the members have been doing is mistakenly understood by you as an attack. But it's better if you can pinpoint that and if that really has happened.



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July 17, 2023, 10:18:23 PM
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I don't think this should cause any distractions to you people because no one started with Legendary account or Hero rank, everyone started as newbie including me myself but the ability for you to have patients to read across the forum is where the problems is because you people don't want to put any effort to be either useful to the forum or be more concise in creating post. Rather all you people always think of is how to gain merits and became Legendary in just 3 weeks to months interval after registration. Look man the forum doesn't work that way it requires a lots
of efforts to be where you desired to be, take a time and go through other people profile to see how they all started.

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July 17, 2023, 10:26:17 PM
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .


The truth is that they are here to be corrected because they are here to learn, and they should be corrected whenever they make mistakes so that others can learn from it. In all seriousness, I don't believe any senior members are attacking newcomers, but what I do know is that senior members always try to correct them. Members who are knowledgeable cannot passively observe while other members provide incorrect information.

If any beginner has consistently been under assault on this topic, I can say that person is acting incorrectly on a regular basis and has been warned about it; nevertheless, because the person chose not to accept the warning, I wonder why other forum members will not take any action against him.

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July 17, 2023, 10:41:41 PM
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Newbies are welcome in this forum, no one is attacking them even though the newbie tries to be knowledgeable by giving advice and then messing up with wrong information.  Older members that are knowledgeable about the topic simply correct them with a different approach.  The one noticeable is the critic's approach which can be considered a constructive criticism by simply pointing out wrong information and correcting them but many newbies do not take it as a good thing thinking that they were attacked instead.

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July 17, 2023, 11:15:14 PM
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .
Like they would say – Grow a thick skin.

Your observation that newbies get attacked may be right if you're referring to them be checked in open criticism (constructive criticism, that's) which I think are for the right reasons, then you're correct. If you're seeking everyone to turn a blind eye when you err then I don't think you've come to the right forum. Plagiarism and spam posts are two of the top vices that annoy (in generality) the top brass here. So, keep that in mind and do right.

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July 17, 2023, 11:22:19 PM
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long
why do you use the parable of being attacked bro? this forum is a place for discussion, not social media where other people can brutally blaspheme and hate other people's activities and lives.
the discussion forum is a place for people to discuss and in it, of course, there is an expression of opinion and there are even rebuttals or criticisms of the opinions that we convey.
if in a discussion you consider an input, opinion or criticism from another member to be an attack it states that you are an anti-criticism person.
in fact, not only beginners, even old and high-ranking members if they do something that is not quite right or express opinions that are distorted the other members will criticize or correct them. because that is the form of discussion, we receive feedback on the opinions that we convey with other people giving their opinions, rebuttals, input and even criticism.
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

Nobody is attacking newbies, the high rank members here are always correcting and not attacking, and as a newbie you should be ready to accept correction if you want to grow, everyone one here was once a newbie and everyone has made a mistake in the past before, but they where corrected and that’s how everyone is growing, but if you are being correct and you think they are attacking you, then you will be discouraged and you won’t even want to post in the forum here anymore or you will be scared so that you won’t be corrected after posting again.

In the forum here you can post in anywhere you like, nobody will stop you from anywhere, but your rank is restricted from posting in some particular places because you are newbie, and if you are looking for merit, if you are making contribution and someone sees the post or comment useful, then they can decide to merit and they might not also merit it.

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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .


If a student sees the teacher's instruction or advice as an attack, such a student will never learn. Some of the expressions you call attack are corrections and instructions that you need to grow in the forum. Sometimes these words might not come politely, but you should overlook the harsh words and learn the lessons attached. You are permitted to visit and post on boards you know about. You can attract rebuke if your post is substandard. That is why you need to read more and write less at this stage. Before posting anything make sure the information is meaningful and valid. If you keep on posting relevant information that contributes positively to the forum, you will be rewarded with merits. And if you keep bringing viable ideas, answering questions, and helping people solve problems in this forum, more merits that will help you to increase your rank will come.

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July 17, 2023, 11:59:28 PM
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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .

Attacked?  What kind of attack?
I think no one attacking you but instead, they are trying to correct you in the right way which of course, is the reason why we have rules and guidelines that most newbies should be followed, or else they will be punished unknowingly.

As long as you followed the rules, you can freely share your ideas and join discussions with others.  No one will stop you and I think no one will attack you.

Like they would say – Grow a thick skin.
IMO, this should be a must and decide which you belong, Gangs of BitcoinTalk Smiley.

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Normally newbies who just join this forum are been attacked by those that have been here for long and secondly the rules and guidance and where to post and not to post and gaining merit .


I never had that impression, quite the contrary. I had a lot of advice, help and always with kindness (and never with condescension). If I am wrong in what I write, it is also so that someone can correct me and so that I can learn. It's really the asset of this forum, brilliant people who really bring us something.

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The problems newbies face is that they complain about pEoPLe NoT GiViNg MeRiTs instead of actually improving their post quality through actually learning about this industry. It's just a BS excuse; like a janitor wanting to be paid the same as a CEO.

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