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July 29, 2023, 09:29:20 PM
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A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.
 
Population in the case of Africa critically looking at it we can all agree that the demographic size is not the problem but it's bad leader and poor policy formulation and implementation to the letter. Russia is a European country with a population 4 times of some African countries but yet Russia is one of the developed countries of the world . Hence, we can't blame population for the underdevelopment of development in Africa but it's a result of the lack of walk the talk by the political and economic leaders highly being so corrupt without recourse to real development stride.

Am not dispute the reality that population can be a barrier to economic development of a country but not entirely in the case with African countries it's comparatively a corrupt practice. Africa as a continent each country is blessed with countless natural resources both mineral and agricultural resources but how many African countries are exporting agricultural produce to others nations rather they depend on grains from Russia and Ukraine while the  leaders sit at home and plunder the national cake.

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July 29, 2023, 09:45:07 PM
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The population could be a blessing or a curse. This depends on the leaders of the country we are talking about and the people therein.

If policies are not good enough, the higher the population, the more devasting it would be. Another thing about the population is about those people that form the population (the masses), if they are nonentities, then there is nothing much positive that would come out of it.

Forget about increasing or reducing the population, it doesn't work, they are just litmus test as far as I'm concerned and it has different results per country. Once the foundation/system is wrong, it's a problem, the country can't get it right with either increased or reduced population.
True. Population has nothing to do with the present country’s economy status as everything lies down on its foundation and on how the country’s government enforce its laws and policies towards their citizens. Now, if the government is bias and does not offer equal opportunities to everyone, then expect that the whole country will be in a mess. Everything that has happened to the country does not reflect on what type of citizens they have, but what type of government that the country is taking its side.

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July 29, 2023, 11:01:25 PM
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The population could be a blessing or a curse. This depends on the leaders of the country we are talking about and the people therein.

If policies are not good enough, the higher the population, the more devasting it would be. Another thing about the population is about those people that form the population (the masses), if they are nonentities, then there is nothing much positive that would come out of it.

Forget about increasing or reducing the population, it doesn't work, they are just litmus test as far as I'm concerned and it has different results per country. Once the foundation/system is wrong, it's a problem, the country can't get it right with either increased or reduced population.
True. Population has nothing to do with the present country’s economy status as everything lies down on its foundation and on how the country’s government enforce its laws and policies towards their citizens. Now, if the government is bias and does not offer equal opportunities to everyone, then expect that the whole country will be in a mess. Everything that has happened to the country does not reflect on what type of citizens they have, but what type of government that the country is taking its side.
Population have got its importance, but the major part is in the hands of the government. Well said, equal opportunity is a must and the governments itself have got discrimination which is the worst thing happening around in some countries. This surely have negative thoughts to emerge from the people who are suppressed. Population needs to be used in the right way and the same will surely strengthen the economy, but to manage a small population and a bigger population have got difference and more difficulty.
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July 29, 2023, 11:25:23 PM
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Depends on how you use it. Plus it also depends on how a nation grew as well, any nation in the world, even the smallest of nations, could make a great economic investment and put itself to the right place and with some growing pains could become one of the best nations. Just look at South Korea, sure they got a lot of help, but they didn't squander that help and became a terrible nation, they used that help and now one of the highest growing economies in the world for the past decades. It all depends on wanting it, and that's the key reason most nations fails. It doesn't depend on your population or not, it depends on how much you are willing or not to improve.

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July 29, 2023, 11:56:03 PM
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Having a large population can be both a strength and weakness, depending on the quality of the same. If the population is highly skilled and educated, then it can be an advantage to the country to have such a large population. However, if the population is of low quality, then it can be a burden to have a huge population as the government needs to spend a lot of resources on education, employment and medical care. African nations do have a rapidly growing population, but they are in poverty because the population is not sufficiently skilled.

Then I can say the country is poor, not because of over population but because of bad governance. If the government was good and the state was well planned, there will be a high amount of skilled labour to make the country productive.
There are countries in Africa that are not very populated but they're still poor despite the fact that they have a lot of sought after natural resources.

Population is a good thing, if managed properly. "Two good heads are better than one", they say. Emphasis on "good". There's no point having many heads if they're not good. And they can only be good when they have been invested in.
If a vast majority of the population is educated and taught different skills and a favorable environment is created so they can do business and thrive, then that country won't have a problem of over population. Sadly, the leaders prefer to fill their pockets and forget about everything else.

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July 30, 2023, 05:11:44 PM
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Depends on how you use it. Plus it also depends on how a nation grew as well, any nation in the world, even the smallest of nations, could make a great economic investment and put itself to the right place and with some growing pains could become one of the best nations. Just look at South Korea, sure they got a lot of help, but they didn't squander that help and became a terrible nation, they used that help and now one of the highest growing economies in the world for the past decades. It all depends on wanting it, and that's the key reason most nations fails. It doesn't depend on your population or not, it depends on how much you are willing or not to improve.
Population should be an advantage if there would be a good leader which would utilize the manpower for the betterment of a country. But in most instances no organization of people is being made to make the advantage efficient. Ending is poverty as we all know. Unlike with big countries and regions, perhaps China who has a large population, they somehow managed to make use of the number in order for their country to be one of the biggest ones in the world. And unfortunately, many countries having large population did not manage to do the same thing as well. Before I was thinking it is all about the leader but nowadays individuals are weighing down ecobomic progress because of that number.

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July 30, 2023, 05:39:34 PM
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Depends on how you use it. Plus it also depends on how a nation grew as well, any nation in the world, even the smallest of nations, could make a great economic investment and put itself to the right place and with some growing pains could become one of the best nations. Just look at South Korea, sure they got a lot of help, but they didn't squander that help and became a terrible nation, they used that help and now one of the highest growing economies in the world for the past decades. It all depends on wanting it, and that's the key reason most nations fails. It doesn't depend on your population or not, it depends on how much you are willing or not to improve.

This is true and great example on that. At the end of the day the numbers do not matter, it will all come down to the willingness of the people to change and improve their lives and help the economy of their country. So what if you have a lot of people in your country, it would not matter if all (if not most) of them have the drive to work and improve their lives and contribute to society.

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July 30, 2023, 10:36:39 PM
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Depends on which place you are talking about. Manpower is a blessing but excess of anything is bad even if it is a good thing. Too much of it could make it bad. Having huge manpower but not being able to use it in every field will make it a weakness. In many countries, there aren't many opportunities. Thus the competition is high. The government is unable to provide its population with work. In cases like this, it will be a weakness for the economy.
On the other hand, if your country can provide you with good opportunities, overpopulation won't be a problem. Despite having competition, everyone will be able to contribute to the cause. That's how this will become a strength of the country's economy.

But if you want to talk about the whole world's economy, overpopulation helps a lot. Everyone alive needs to consume food. Poor, rich, middle class. All of us need food. So as we consume food on a daily basis, we are helping the economy.
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But if you want to talk about the whole world's economy, overpopulation helps a lot. Everyone alive needs to consume food. Poor, rich, middle class. All of us need food. So as we consume food on a daily basis, we are helping the economy.
Before you start agreeing or conceiving the idea that over population does help, you first and foremost have to wonder why, it’s advocated against? If it did truly helps, it would have been a welcomed idea and you won’t find many persons terminating pregnancies, government would have encouraged its citizens to go about making babies and the nation continues to grow in man power but, this ain’t the case. Over population is forth against everywhere across the globe and that means, it doesn’t help.
Should man power be the issue, you could always get external help to get the job done. It’s rather common.

Over population is a problem given that, it can not be matched with the available or needed resources and that would lead to chaos on different fronts. People ought to try and not to be selfish and practice birth control so we could save our world, over population is a problem.

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July 31, 2023, 05:06:00 PM
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Depends on which place you are talking about. Manpower is a blessing but excess of anything is bad even if it is a good thing. Too much of it could make it bad. Having huge manpower but not being able to use it in every field will make it a weakness. In many countries, there aren't many opportunities. Thus the competition is high. The government is unable to provide its population with work. In cases like this, it will be a weakness for the economy.
On the other hand, if your country can provide you with good opportunities, overpopulation won't be a problem. Despite having competition, everyone will be able to contribute to the cause. That's how this will become a strength of the country's economy.

But if you want to talk about the whole world's economy, overpopulation helps a lot. Everyone alive needs to consume food. Poor, rich, middle class. All of us need food. So as we consume food on a daily basis, we are helping the economy.
Cheap labor is based on work experience and also certificates of expertise. The price of a job is cheap. because it does not require expertise to make policies and decisions. the thing that can be done to get to reduce the price of a job is to take advantage of technology.

if the workforce in question is related to the public, such as social services. it can not. It's different if the work in question is related to technology, it could be replaced with a machine. for example in agriculture. The country can make the concept of automatic irrigation for example.

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Since I went to school and was taught about economics, I concluded that too large a population is a serious problem for the economy, but after many countries reported population shortages because many people did not want to have children, it now creates a more complicated problem, many places or cities now have to look for workers cheap labor from abroad thereby making production costs higher.


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Cheap labor is based on work experience and also certificates of expertise. The price of a job is cheap. because it does not require expertise to make policies and decisions. the thing that can be done to get to reduce the price of a job is to take advantage of technology.
I think it also depends on the model of work, because if it's a job like agriculture or plantation, of course you can see a worker through the experience and knowledge he already has so that the determination of his salary can be very clear. But if it is a farm or plantation that already uses certain machines or technologies, what must be seen here is the manager of the machine or the one who runs the technology. Because certain machines or technologies also cannot run by themselves if there is no operator to operate them.

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if the workforce in question is related to the public, such as social services. it can not. It's different if the work in question is related to technology, it could be replaced with a machine. for example in agriculture. The country can make the concept of automatic irrigation for example.
Technology-related workers are workers who have been previously trained in managing and operating existing technology, because workers who can manage machines are usually paid on a service basis. As for automatic irrigation, I think that there must be a special water reservoir in a reservoir which can also be used by many people for several areas.

Since I went to school and was taught about economics, I concluded that too large a population is a serious problem for the economy, but after many countries reported population shortages because many people did not want to have children, it now creates a more complicated problem, many places or cities now have to look for workers cheap labor from abroad thereby making production costs higher.
From the beginning I have never thought that the human population is a problem, because in fact it has been seen that the number of human populations clearly has benefits for the country and also for the founders of factories or companies that require a large number of workers. So that certain countries are currently paying more attention to the human population in it so that those who have factories and companies can use them to work in companies or factories. Thus the level of economic turnover will also be better because the production of goods and services can always run without stopping.

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August 01, 2023, 08:22:33 PM
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Since I went to school and was taught about economics, I concluded that too large a population is a serious problem for the economy, but after many countries reported population shortages because many people did not want to have children, it now creates a more complicated problem, many places or cities now have to look for workers cheap labor from abroad thereby making production costs higher.

Under population is not very good and that is what will make a country open their borders for foreigners out of need for labour force. I think there is a solution to this through government policy by giving rewards to couples who increase the numbers of children they give birth to depending on the number stipulated by government. Another point is to discourage abortion because people do that as final resort when they have no other option.
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August 01, 2023, 09:58:28 PM
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Depends on which place you are talking about. Manpower is a blessing but excess of anything is bad even if it is a good thing. Too much of it could make it bad. Having huge manpower but not being able to use it in every field will make it a weakness. In many countries, there aren't many opportunities. Thus the competition is high. The government is unable to provide its population with work. In cases like this, it will be a weakness for the economy.
On the other hand, if your country can provide you with good opportunities, overpopulation won't be a problem. Despite having competition, everyone will be able to contribute to the cause. That's how this will become a strength of the country's economy.

But if you want to talk about the whole world's economy, overpopulation helps a lot. Everyone alive needs to consume food. Poor, rich, middle class. All of us need food. So as we consume food daily, we are helping the economy.
Cheap labor is based on work experience and also certificates of expertise. The price of a job is cheap. because it does not require expertise to make policies and decisions. the thing that can be done to get to reduce the price of a job is to take advantage of technology.

if the workforce in question is related to the public, such as social services. it can not. It's different if the work in question is related to technology, it could be replaced with a machine. for example in agriculture. The country can make the concept of automatic irrigation for example.
What if, rather than racing to the bottom with the automation route, we invest in improving worker skills? Upskilling and reskilling might sound like jargon, but they're genuine solutions for the future. This would not only improve job quality but also reduce the dependency on unskilled labor.

As for the public workforce, you're right; robots can't replace empathy, understanding, and human connection. However, in sectors such as agriculture, though tech can help, we need to consider the social ramifications. Farmers losing their jobs en masse to machines - sounds like a dystopian novel, doesn't it?

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Limiting the number of children who have been actively campaigning in my country since more than 50 years ago is now starting to produce, many parents and most people in my country think that the maximum number of children 3 is ideal, if not immediately make a campaign to increase the number of children again it seems like 20 years from now the population of my country will decrease by more than 15% from now.


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September 17, 2023, 11:25:44 AM
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Since I went to school and was taught about economics, I concluded that too large a population is a serious problem for the economy, but after many countries reported population shortages because many people did not want to have children, it now creates a more complicated problem, many places or cities now have to look for workers cheap labor from abroad thereby making production costs higher.

Under population is not very good and that is what will make a country open their borders for foreigners out of need for labour force. I think there is a solution to this through government policy by giving rewards to couples who increase the numbers of children they give birth to depending on the number stipulated by government. Another point is to discourage abortion because people do that as final resort when they have no other option.
Population plays a major role to strengthen the economy. If education is given to children, they will become a good people of the country, in this way population or more children will be helpful for country. More children if they will work, they will earn more money by working. When I talk about education, it's not meaning a academic education, it means a financial education that will give your child a mindset of rich people. If a country want to progress, they should train their child for work. When they will reach to young age, they will play a vital role in country economy. They can do a lot of businesses and they can sell businesses, they can also purchase a profitable businesses, in young age they will have power to do every type of investment. They should have knowledge of Bitcoin, in early age, if they will be skilled in these things, they will double their income for a multiple of times. Increase in population is not an issue, the issue is illiteracy, because without education man I'm s nothing, he cannot take decisions for himself.

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September 19, 2023, 07:33:53 PM
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Having a large population can be both a strength and weakness, depending on the quality of the same. If the population is highly skilled and educated, then it can be an advantage to the country to have such a large population. However, if the population is of low quality, then it can be a burden to have a huge population as the government needs to spend a lot of resources on education, employment and medical care. African nations do have a rapidly growing population, but they are in poverty because the population is not sufficiently skilled. 

Yes sure that everything has some benefits as well as disadvantages now its up to the country that how they think? Will they take benefit out of higher population or they will it as a burden?

If there is larger population then resources should also be increased because if resources become limited then some will deprived of it.  Cost of thing will also increases because there will be little amount of materials to cover the needs of humans therefore government will rise the price of such materials.

While among its advantages one is the creation of new technologies if an individual of a country becomes creative and talented. Government income will also increases because larger the population larger will be tax cutting from their income which will be added in the income of government
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Depends on which place you are talking about. Manpower is a blessing but excess of anything is bad even if it is a good thing. Too much of it could make it bad. Having huge manpower but not being able to use it in every field will make it a weakness. In many countries, there aren't many opportunities. Thus the competition is high. The government is unable to provide its population with work. In cases like this, it will be a weakness for the economy.
On the other hand, if your country can provide you with good opportunities, overpopulation won't be a problem. Despite having competition, everyone will be able to contribute to the cause. That's how this will become a strength of the country's economy.

But if you want to talk about the whole world's economy, overpopulation helps a lot. Everyone alive needs to consume food. Poor, rich, middle class. All of us need food. So as we consume food daily, we are helping the economy.
Cheap labor is based on work experience and also certificates of expertise. The price of a job is cheap. because it does not require expertise to make policies and decisions. the thing that can be done to get to reduce the price of a job is to take advantage of technology.

if the workforce in question is related to the public, such as social services. it can not. It's different if the work in question is related to technology, it could be replaced with a machine. for example in agriculture. The country can make the concept of automatic irrigation for example.
What if, rather than racing to the bottom with the automation route, we invest in improving worker skills? Upskilling and reskilling might sound like jargon, but they're genuine solutions for the future. This would not only improve job quality but also reduce the dependency on unskilled labor.

As for the public workforce, you're right; robots can't replace empathy, understanding, and human connection. However, in sectors such as agriculture, though tech can help, we need to consider the social ramifications. Farmers losing their jobs en masse to machines - sounds like a dystopian novel, doesn't it?
I think that replacing everyone with robots or having many workers where everything needs to be automated is not rational. We need to find a balance between automation and employee development.

As for agriculture, I think this area is still poorly automated, if you look at the world average. I remembered an example of how in a country like Poland, which is quite strong in the agricultural sector, migrants still collect strawberries through hard manual labor and receive little pay. (I apologize to the residents of this country for such an example. I mention this without malicious intent.)

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September 19, 2023, 09:30:17 PM
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Having a large population can be both a strength and weakness, depending on the quality of the same. If the population is highly skilled and educated, then it can be an advantage to the country to have such a large population. However, if the population is of low quality, then it can be a burden to have a huge population as the government needs to spend a lot of resources on education, employment and medical care. African nations do have a rapidly growing population, but they are in poverty because the population is not sufficiently skilled. 

Yes sure that everything has some benefits as well as disadvantages now its up to the country that how they think? Will they take benefit out of higher population or they will it as a burden?

If there is larger population then resources should also be increased because if resources become limited then some will deprived of it.  Cost of thing will also increases because there will be little amount of materials to cover the needs of humans therefore government will rise the price of such materials.

While among its advantages one is the creation of new technologies if an individual of a country becomes creative and talented. Government income will also increases because larger the population larger will be tax cutting from their income which will be added in the income of government

Population growth and the unplanned occurrence of this increase is a big problem for states. If the education level of the increasing population is low and qualified individuals cannot be raised, poverty begins in that country. This is inevitable. The population wants to be fed and economic power is needed to feed these people. If a population without added value emerges, big problems will arise.

To prevent these, studies should be carried out under the name of population planning. Anything unplanned brings trouble. Therefore, a planned population ensures that the population contributes positively to the economy.
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September 19, 2023, 09:43:34 PM
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Population growth and the unplanned occurrence of this increase is a big problem for states. If the education level of the increasing population is low and qualified individuals cannot be raised, poverty begins in that country. This is inevitable. The population wants to be fed and economic power is needed to feed these people. If a population without added value emerges, big problems will arise.
This is what makes a nation worry when most of its population are having lack of education as it is also giving them limited opportunity. And when they have limited opportunity, that's not good for a country's economy.

To prevent these, studies should be carried out under the name of population planning. Anything unplanned brings trouble. Therefore, a planned population ensures that the population contributes positively to the economy.
Family planning and as well as putting a lot of budget in the education sector which is what most rich countries are doing.

Education is still the best asset that a person will have and that's why governments are investing on their own people for their studies and educations.

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