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September 28, 2023, 01:48:41 AM
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.

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September 28, 2023, 01:15:34 PM
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The fact that nations rich in resources are nevertheless having difficulty providing basic necessities is both funny and depressing. Picture yourself in possession of a gold mine, but without the means or expertise to extract the precious metal. Indeed, it is what these nations are doing. It reminds me of how early Bitcoin critics also failed to recognise the currency's potential. They choose to go the "easy" road of outsourcing rather than investing in their own people. It's a sign of a failing economy if its residents are leaving in droves for other countries in search of better prospects

But relying on outsiders without investing in your own human capital is a dangerous game to play. It may be too late to fix things when these quick cuts eventually fail
That is the reality of what happened and the government failed to carry out its power function in the country, so that even though they have abundant natural products they are unable to make their people prosperous. This is also a form of government that has failed constitutionally and they do not have a good vision at all to help their people. Human resources must be formed and trained in such a way, this aims to enable them to process their own natural products and government encouragement is also an inseparable part because with support from the government the people can more easily access these resources.

It is not too late if the government has the desire to train human resources, because natural products will still be available for some countries that are rich in nature. In-depth study is needed regarding this issue because depending on external work will increasingly make people in their own country lose the opportunity to work.

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September 28, 2023, 05:35:35 PM
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Even the most populated countries like China, India, and others have already developed, and they are still creating other things that will make their citizens enjoy their way of leaving. To me, overpopulation cannot affect the development of a country if the government in such a country is doing well, but in a situation where the government is corrupt, they don’t care about their citizens.

You can see that even if there are resources available, they don’t care to make use of these resources in such a way that they create job opportunities for the citizens, and I believe job opportunities are one of the ways that we can say a country is developing when everybody is working. And that is what the Chinese government is still doing. With their very large population, are we going to say they did not develop? Nah, mate, so if a government uses available resources in a nation to create other ways of earning, there will be no poverty.
As per the international laws and criteria, both China and India are categorized as developing countries and aren't developed countries, although China's growth rate is way higher and it is more developed as a nation than India and there is also a difference in unemployment and literacy rate between the two countries. If we talk about population or overpopulation, it actually does make a difference when it comes to developing a country and providing the best services and amenities to the citizens.

A country with a popular of 63 Million people will be easier to manage and develop than a country with a population of 1.4 Billion. I know that natural resources and the abilities of the authorities to produce wealth and increase the GDP of the country matter in this but the population does have its effects.

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September 28, 2023, 05:45:12 PM
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A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Population greatly influences a country's economy, with the increasing development of technology, developed and developing countries that have a population shortage do not need to worry about labor, they can ask for productive labor from other countries, and also use technology. Apart from the two above, developed and developing countries can also employ women to fill the shortage of slots in each employment sector.




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September 28, 2023, 06:27:43 PM
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Population greatly influences a country's economy, with the increasing development of technology, developed and developing countries that have a population shortage do not need to worry about labor, they can ask for productive labor from other countries, and also use technology. Apart from the two above, developed and developing countries can also employ women to fill the shortage of slots in each employment sector.
The importance of population to a country is well understood in countries where the birth rate is falling and the number of working people is decreasing. Then those countries have to bring in skilled manpower from other developing countries to keep their country running. In the coming days, countries with high skilled youth population will be able to benefit more economically, as countries with low youth population will have no option but to hire skilled manpower from other countries.

Therefore, all countries will want to hire skilled people in the employment sector, as a result of which the skilled people of a country will make that country important to other countries in various ways. So the population of a country affects many things including the economy of that country.

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September 28, 2023, 09:04:43 PM
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Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.
And this is a problem in Japan now.

Despite that they're a super country and one of the most advanced and high GDP globally, they're suffering this problem. Japanese people, most of them don't want to marry.

They just wanna get stuck into their jobs until they get old and no plans of getting married. AFAIK, it's the same in South Korea as well while the issue there is people find it expensive to raise kids.

This can be because of the environmental conditions in there. I have heard that someplace on the earth people don't have much desire for sexual activity. There can be other reasons as well like for the Japanese. The cost for marriage and raising kids is expensive due to their economic stagnation. Also they have a culture of working equality for men and women and for the baby care part, most of the burden goes to women only. So many women want to avoid marriage as they think there will be too much pressure on them.

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September 28, 2023, 09:38:03 PM
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.
The ultimate question is,  will globalization truly unit the world and making it becoming a global village?

This have been the most questions that are frequently asked in many quarter and this question of the impact of. The globalization on the economic development of all nations around the world to cooperate and operate as one continual point is what make Globalization most suit after a developmental tool they have helped the world cooperate and operate within the same framework
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September 28, 2023, 09:38:13 PM
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And this is a problem in Japan now.

Despite that they're a super country and one of the most advanced and high GDP globally, they're suffering this problem. Japanese people, most of them don't want to marry.

They just wanna get stuck into their jobs until they get old and no plans of getting married. AFAIK, it's the same in South Korea as well while the issue there is people find it expensive to raise kids.

This can be because of the environmental conditions in there. I have heard that someplace on the earth people don't have much desire for sexual activity. There can be other reasons as well like for the Japanese.
The desire for intimacy is gone because of their work ethics and that's affecting most people there and that's why they're seeing the problem to keep on rising if nothing has happened to solve it.

The cost for marriage and raising kids is expensive due to their economic stagnation. Also they have a culture of working equality for men and women and for the baby care part, most of the burden goes to women only. So many women want to avoid marriage as they think there will be too much pressure on them.
I don't know about that part that burden only goes to the women. Although we're living in a society, it's a shared responsibility for both married couples.

But I don't know about much of their culture in terms of being in a family and how it goes but with that problem that many of them don't want to raise a child is also alarming.

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September 28, 2023, 10:15:38 PM
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.

This is the beauty of having a steady growth of population, the government is able to send people abroad to work without worrying about the shortage of manpower.  The country is able to make a profit from these laborers through taxes.

The population needs to be literate in order to see them as a potential help. So country with a booming population should not neglect the literacy of its constituents.

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September 29, 2023, 05:00:49 AM
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A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Population greatly influences a country's economy, with the increasing development of technology, developed and developing countries that have a population shortage do not need to worry about labor, they can ask for productive labor from other countries, and also use technology. Apart from the two above, developed and developing countries can also employ women to fill the shortage of slots in each employment sector.
On the one hand, it can really help the economy if the population has the potential to work and if the population cannot work, of course this becomes a burden for the government because they need to train their people to be able to work so that people's purchasing power increases. I think this can help the country's economic growth.

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I think they will have to pay for more labor and it will definitely be high quality and expensive. I think those in developed countries don't have a lot of population but technologically or progress in many aspects of their country they are always superior even with that small population. So there's no harm in paying more for better quality than paying cheap for mediocre quality. it would even damage the salaries of industrial employees.

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Population will not be a source of economic strength or weakness if employment increases there is a risk of population explosion due to the changed situation due to the global corona pandemic. Therefore reproductive health related programs in the country should be strengthened and innovative activities should be included in the ongoing programs. Population growth is closely related to poverty by limiting the country's population growth rate and increasing the education rate and employment opportunities along with poverty alleviation, the large working population of the country should be turned into a public resource and the salary of each employee should be increased in the field of industry.

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September 29, 2023, 07:34:32 AM
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A lot of criteria affect the success of a country seeing how countries like Japan, and  Korea are developed with their small population and countries like China are also developed with their overpopulation. I think it all boils down to the activities of the citizens and not whether they are large or small.

Any good leader would be able to influence people whether they're plenty or little. The education of the masses and the distribution of resources also matter a lot. There are underpopulated countries as well as overpopulated countries that have high poverty rates. Of course, such countries, don't need any additions as their resources are already limited. They just have to work on the people, their education, and their effective productivity.

People who want to add to the pop of little countries through marriage, immigration, and so on should be people who are ready to add value. And another thing about this population thing is that it's very possible to have overpopulation and the labor force is still small. Maybe most of the citizens are children or aged people.
What would one do in a situation like this? Obviously, you can't reduce the population and you also can't increase the population, cause resources are limited already.

So this comes down to the government using efficiently their human resources efficiently.
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A lot of criteria affect the success of a country seeing how countries like Japan, and  Korea are developed with their small population and countries like China are also developed with their overpopulation. I think it all boils down to the activities of the citizens and not whether they are large or small.

Any good leader would be able to influence people whether they're plenty or little. The education of the masses and the distribution of resources also matter a lot. There are underpopulated countries as well as overpopulated countries that have high poverty rates. Of course, such countries, don't need any additions as their resources are already limited. They just have to work on the people, their education, and their effective productivity.

People who want to add to the pop of little countries through marriage, immigration, and so on should be people who are ready to add value. And another thing about this population thing is that it's very possible to have overpopulation and the labor force is still small. Maybe most of the citizens are children or aged people.
What would one do in a situation like this? Obviously, you can't reduce the population and you also can't increase the population, cause resources are limited already.

So this comes down to the government using efficiently their human resources efficiently.

I like your point regarding the people who are getting married, migrating and etc to have a plan or know what the value they can add to the country for its betterment. Although it is true that the government holds a responsibility in this context, we cannot take away the fact that we, as the people of our country we also have to take responsibility of our actions and decisions that results to various effects to others. If we continuously be mindless and disregard the effects of our actions and decisions, like getting married and having children, then no matter how much effort, resources, and opportunities the government provides for us then most of it will be nothing.

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A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.
Governance in the country is still quite problematic and errors in managing many things may be one of the factors causing poverty to still be rampant. The large population factor could be one of the causes because it is impossible for the state to be able to reach many people for welfare issues. This problem cannot be used as an excuse for leaders because this is guaranteed by law and leaders have an obligation to ensure that poor people have a decent life. Leaders must have a poverty alleviation program by providing employment opportunities and must also provide education that expecting assistance from the government forever will not get them out of trouble.

Poor people cannot be made spoiled by being given life support forever by the government because it will make them lazy to work, on the contrary, it is the government's job to provide access to decent work so that they want to work.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
The government must provide education regularly and consistently, so that people have the skills and train human resources to be better prepared to face life. Expecting foreign workers will not make society itself more independent and on the contrary it will actually increase unemployment more and more.

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September 29, 2023, 05:27:53 PM
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Population can be an economic weakness or strength it all depends on how they put those number into good use or how those high number can become a liability to the country.

In a country which have a high number of population and the country happens to be industrious and their citizens are entrepreneurs and they focus mainly on developing their self and don’t depends on what the government is bringing to the table rather they even create job opportunities for them self and make life easier, in situations like that you will see that the population is not in any way causing any damage to the country economy but instead they are going to boast it with their little effort.

But in situations where the more than half of the population is over dependent on what the government will bring to the table and don’t deem it necessary to make an establishment for them self you will see that in such a case those number have turn out to be a liability to the country which will cause damage to the economy strength.

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September 30, 2023, 05:48:13 PM
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The cost for marriage and raising kids is expensive due to their economic stagnation. Also they have a culture of working equality for men and women and for the baby care part, most of the burden goes to women only. So many women want to avoid marriage as they think there will be too much pressure on them.
I don't know about that part that burden only goes to the women. Although we're living in a society, it's a shared responsibility for both married couples.

But I don't know about much of their culture in terms of being in a family and how it goes but with that problem that many of them don't want to raise a child is also alarming.

In Japanese culture women took on the most responsibility for raising their kids. And I think this fact is true for most of the nation as well though we saw in some countries that husband and wife share this responsibility. Also men don't have the care and patience mentality of women to properly raise a child. Japanese women work as much as men do so it's logical to think this burden can be heavy on them after working equally outside of home.

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September 30, 2023, 06:10:06 PM
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The importance of population to a country is well understood in countries where the birth rate is falling and the number of working people is decreasing. Then those countries have to bring in skilled manpower from other developing countries to keep their country running. In the coming days, countries with high skilled youth population will be able to benefit more economically, as countries with low youth population will have no option but to hire skilled manpower from other countries.

Therefore, all countries will want to hire skilled people in the employment sector, as a result of which the skilled people of a country will make that country important to other countries in various ways. So the population of a country affects many things including the economy of that country.

exactly you can only realize the benefit when you don't have something but if you possess all the things then you cannot realize its advantage same is the case with population that if a country's population is increasing then they consider it as unfavourable but if they don't have much population then they desire to have more people to work for brightening the future of a country.

In some countries where there are lots of people have no extra seats for job and unemployment increases therefore individuals from such countries go towards others countries to earn passive income to make their life.

I realized and have experience that a country will be powerful if it has consumate people with creative mind but its also true that if a country possess larger population but all of them are lazy then such larger population will have no significant for country.

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September 30, 2023, 06:29:31 PM
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.

This is the beauty of having a steady growth of population, the government is able to send people abroad to work without worrying about the shortage of manpower.  The country is able to make a profit from these laborers through taxes.

The population needs to be literate in order to see them as a potential help. So country with a booming population should not neglect the literacy of its constituents.
The main problem in this developing nation is not education because many of them are educated. In fact, most of the people that are migrating to Europe and America are professionals. Many of them are health and IT professionals. One of the reasons why people are migrating is because of a lack of employment opportunities. Others are due to security issues and natural disasters. I have spoken to some of my countrymen who left for some developed nations and they informed me that life is not easy in these countries. Some professionals who leave our shores have to work as laborers to survive because they can't find good jobs. If the government creates better employment opportunities and improves the security of the country many people will prefer to remain in their homeland.

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September 30, 2023, 06:42:01 PM
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I realized and have experience that a country will be powerful if it has consumate people with creative mind but its also true that if a country possess larger population but all of them are lazy then such larger population will have no significant for country.
If a large part of the population of a country is lazy then this population will be the biggest concern for that country, that country will have to go through many problems with this population. But if the population of a country is skilled, then their population will emerge as a blessing for that country. Now those who want to go to developed countries with the expectation of a job, if they are skilled, then they do not have much problem in getting a work permit in that country.

So being skilled is very important nowadays, if you don't have the skills then you will have a lot of problems to get a job. Therefore, if the population of a country is skilled and talented, then that country gets a lot of acceptance globally. So countries that currently have high birth rates should make their population a strength by making them skilled.

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